Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 703781 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#506324 Jan 15, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Does anyone honestly believe that the Lutherans would have referred to the Prince as WISE if he had sided with the Catholics???
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Frederick the Wise
He protected Martin Luther from the Pope's enforcement of the edict by faking a highway attack on Luther's way back to Wittenberg, abducting and then hiding him at Wartburg Castle following the Diet of Worms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_III,_E...
Did someone say wise?!!
concerned in Brasil

Copenhagen, Denmark

#506325 Jan 15, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
CIB
"There's a difference between you and I. I, as a Catholic believe in the development of doctrine -- that, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the Church can and does come to deeper appreciations of facets in the Deposit of Faith left to us by the Apostles. Jesus promised as much in John 16:13. You, however, believe that the Faith is static -- frozen solidly in the pages of a recorded document....And that this recorded document is all we have. Well, if that's the case, then it necessarily follows that you MUST be able to show that your interpretation of this document is consistent and repeatable for anyone (in whatever age) who reads the Biblical record. Yet, you admit that you cannot show this. Thus, you have no objective standard for your interpretation of the Sacred Scriptures. Thus, how can you say that your interpretation is any better than mine?? You can't. Not with objective certainty. Thus, you follow a religion based on personal opinion -- the very thing condemned in 2 Peter 1:20-21 & 2:1-3. You do not share "one Faith" (Ephesians 4:1-6) with the Christians who came before you. You do not share unity with them....And nor do you care. You are most certainly a relativist."
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/num19.htm
Great dialogue here. I suggest you take some time and read it.
Stink weed by any other name still STINKS

Again you are running around in circles, and avoiding the elephant in the room.

YOUR Popes new and novel doctrines over a millennium contradict the words spoken and written down by God the father God the Son God the Holy Spirit and his Apostles teachings in the NT.

Like I have stated in the past you love your Sect not God and his word your actions tell me it is so.

You put Men's thoughts ahead of God's you are evil to do so.
concerned in Brasil

Copenhagen, Denmark

#506326 Jan 15, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Many women are afraid to adopt there babies out , as the adoptive parents might in turn be terrible monsters that mistreat the child. I suggest it is often more humane to have an abortion and in turn know that the suffering that is certain in many ways after birth will NOT occur.
If there's a creator, then it is up to the creator to decide whether the woman deserves punishment for having the abortion. I suggest it is not your place to decide, even though theologians gave you the "impression" that it IS holy to use your bible to bully others as evil sinners.
And if there is a spirit that the creator puts in the fetus, there's no rule against him taking it back to where (according to the theologians) the creator wants it to end it's life for eternity.
Religion is plain silly nonsense.
What is nonsense is your reasoning, if its OK for the mother to decide its OK that the individual human being in her womb is better off dismembered or burned alive with ACID than its equally OK for me to say there has been more suffering caused by Atheists in History (FACT) then any other Belief system in human history thus its OK that I dismember you and your kind alive.

That is the natural conclusion of your illogical irrational b.s. you are evil and your thoughts are immoral.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#506327 Jan 15, 2014
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
The Integrity of the Orthodox Church
This is the Church that took the wrath of the Ottomans rather than accept the condition the Western church required of them ( accept thew Pope) before the Western Church would help protect them.
This is a church who representatives of the Lutheran Church asked to join after the Reformation and refused, based on DOCTRINE.
This is a Church that let the Coptics, Non Chalcedonians split from them on DOCTRINE.
The Orthodox Church cares about Truth, not numbers.
The Catholic Church, on the other hand,accepted Barbarians, Arians, etc into their Church while they held onto Barbarian gods.
The Catholic Church accepted Eastern Rite into the Catholic Church while allowing them to also keep their beliefs as long as they acknowledged the Pope.They were just not allowed to teach their beliefs.
Some Eastern Rite accept some Cath beliefs, some accept all, some accept none of the beliefs except the ones that match their Eastern beliefs.
That ,in no way is true union.
The political correctness I see in some Orthodox at present is some of the Patriarchs talking ecumenism and reunion.
The Patriarchs and the Ecumenical Patriarch have no more defacto power than a common Bishop.
The Church includes also all the Priests, Presbyters, and people.
No disrespect, this is history.
I have a hard time believing what you said.
You say The Catholic Church accepted Barbarians and Arians into their Church AND allowed them to keep their gods?? Where did you get that info?

And what beliefs are you talking about when you say the CC allows eastern rite Catholics to keep - as long as they don't publicly "teach their beliefs" ?

I see a potential reunion ticks you two off, so I won't talk about it again. I can't wait to see the joint Mass between Francis and Bartholomew in May though. ;-)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506328 Jan 15, 2014
concerned in Brasil wrote:
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You put Men's thoughts ahead of God's you are evil to do so.
And of course you deem that "God's" thoughts are word for word aligned to YOUR divinely ORDAINED thoughts.

You might not be your best friend ... but I suggest that you are your own advocate in the attitude of "I preach nothing but the truth, so help me God ... and those who disagree with me preach nothing but lies ... so help me God."

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506329 Jan 15, 2014
The laws of the land used to require humans in court-rooms to swear on the bible to tell the truth. It became such a joke, they gave it up as a hopeless case.
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In the Criminal Courts, Charges Law Prof Alan Dershowitz, Truth Is the First Casualty

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20082...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506330 Jan 15, 2014
Image popes of old preaching "God ordains that heretics must be put to death because they are serving the devil."

REALLY???

Those who tried to contradict the popes were put to death.

I suggest that the popes stating that God was on their wave-length ... was a bald-faced LIE!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506331 Jan 15, 2014
"God is aligned to my exact wave-length."

"Why do you believe that is true???

"Because God knows what's best."

"Did you receive that information first-hand?"

"My Bible is a close enough 'call'!"

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#506332 Jan 15, 2014
concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
I post through Anthony here to those who are honest and practice fair play in a debate.
Here once again this prideful man tries to imply through a lie that I reject most of what the reformers believe.
He chooses to ignore the word grow.
When a tree grows it builds on top of that which came before it, it does not reject its trunk it builds on top of it.
He shows two reasons, Anthony does in this post why he is disingenuous, he acts like he does not know what a metaphor is and then he makes a statement that I reject something when in no shape way or form have I posted that or have I done that.
He is using evil dishonest tactics to defend the indefensible actions of men called Popes
concerned in Brasil

Peace

I just had some 2 day old Feijoada, with rice. It was very, very good....(No hot spices, as most Cajuns)....

Peace

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#506333 Jan 15, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Do you really believe that these are not worthy of the Kingdom of God???
Oxbow

Peace

I am not sure you understood what I was writing, because I don't understand your question.

Do you equate the Kingdom of God, with the kingdom of heaven?

And I am not the judge of who is worthy, nor do I set my beliefs on who is worthy. That is up to God and the individual....

Peace

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#506334 Jan 15, 2014
Liam wrote:
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I have a hard time believing what you said.
You say The Catholic Church accepted Barbarians and Arians into their Church AND allowed them to keep their gods?? Where did you get that info?
And what beliefs are you talking about when you say the CC allows eastern rite Catholics to keep - as long as they don't publicly "teach their beliefs" ?
I see a potential reunion ticks you two off, so I won't talk about it again. I can't wait to see the joint Mass between Francis and Bartholomew in May though. ;-)
I can only tell you what I have researched and read from multiple sources. You must read the church histor re the barbarian invasions, the Visigoths, Ostrogoths, the Franks, the Arians to be apprised of how the Arians were incorporated into the Western Church.Again you must read some of the Eastern Rite literature to understand their confusion re how they are Catholic and at the same time how they keep some of their Eastern Practices.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#506335 Jan 15, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Not provoking you sera. If you recall it was your snarky post to me the other day. I haven't addressed a post to you in months. Let's let bygones be bygones. Blessings.
No I don't trust you and I don't trust clay now either...
samyaza ancient one

Alice, TX

#506336 Jan 15, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
may i ask why you're still roman cath? you know rome doesn't don't have the authority anymore to torture and kill you for leaving their tyranny....
first let me begin by saying sorry it took long to answer your question. I work in the oil field, and the work is not hard , but the hours are long; but to answer your question there are for two reasons. 1st and foremost is a promise I made to my mother before she passed away to go back to church , and 2nd out of obedience towards my dad. by inviting me to go to church with him. my mom knew I didn't bow to lifeless objects.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#506337 Jan 15, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The church shouldn't have passed it's bible off as being on truth ... as all the theologians in all religions did was grab at straws and claim that what they taught was truth.
Nonsensical drivel.
wiccan drivel
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506338 Jan 15, 2014
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Did someone say wise?!!
For posting in my name on other threads and bringing the fake posts back to this thread, I have decided not to converse with you again.

You might believe you were and are funny in using my name to state what I had no part in stating, but I don't take that issue as being at all funny. I see it as being very underhanded in deed.

June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506339 Jan 15, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> No I don't trust you and I don't trust clay now either...
Do you trust your self to believe that what you preach is aligned to the will of the supposed creator???
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#506340 Jan 15, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I will intervene and suggest that Jehovah hasn't any time for either Catholics OR Protestants, as he's still focused on loving ONLY the Jews.
tongue in cheek
God loves all of His children. Even the wiccans like you.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#506341 Jan 15, 2014
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text> I can only tell you what I have researched and read from multiple sources..
The "sources" were all aligned to the Protestant religion ... RIGHT???

I suggest you weren't bragging that literature put in place by Catholics was approved by "God."

That would mean that YOU were wrong and the Catholics were right, and that would never suit your emotional DESIRES now ... WOULD IT???

All preachers play to their selves and hope that others will believe them.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#506342 Jan 15, 2014
Liam wrote:
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I have a hard time believing what you said.
You say The Catholic Church accepted Barbarians and Arians into their Church AND allowed them to keep their gods?? Where did you get that info?
And what beliefs are you talking about when you say the CC allows eastern rite Catholics to keep - as long as they don't publicly "teach their beliefs" ?
I see a potential reunion ticks you two off, so I won't talk about it again. I can't wait to see the joint Mass between Francis and Bartholomew in May though. ;-)
You have a hard time believing because you refuse to believe that your church is could have done these things.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#506343 Jan 15, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Do you trust your self to believe that what you preach is aligned to the will of the supposed creator???
why don't you go on a dating site and find yourself a man....

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