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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687414 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

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#502109 Dec 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I bet you enjoyed this: Passengers on a bus in Bat Yam where a bomb exploded Sunday afternoon attributed the fact that no one was killed to a miracle. Police said that based on their initial investigation, the explosion on the number 240 bus from Bnai Brak to Bat Yam was due to a bomb placed by Arab terrorists.
One person – a police bomb squad officer – was injured as he approached a suspicious package on the bus. A spokesperson for the Dan Bus Company said that there twelve passengers on the bus when a passenger alerted the driver that there was a suspicious object on board. The object was in a bag, which one of the passengers opened. Noticing there were wires coming out of the bag, the passenger alerted the driver, who immediately evacuated the passengers.
looking forward to the time that the God of Abraham, the Father of Jesus destroys those who wish to destroy those children, will face His Wrath.

it isn't any wonder that the bible says that hell enlarges itself daily, gotta find room for all those muslims that love to kill innocent people. look at Boston to be that evil that you want to kill innocent people, people that you don't even know.

the US govt should never allow one muslim in this country and expel those who live here now.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#502110 Dec 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you KNEW my mind?
I am not even aware of the incident you are referring to.
Islam does not approve killing any innocent person, Muslim or Non Muslim.
Can your religion do this?
In the last two weeks, over 500 ordinary Shiites, mostly
pilgrims on foot, have been blown up or shot to death
by Sunni co-religionists - their brothers in Islam.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#502111 Dec 23, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>looking forward to the time that the God of Abraham, the Father of Jesus destroys those who wish to destroy those children, will face His Wrath.
it isn't any wonder that the bible says that hell enlarges itself daily, gotta find room for all those muslims that love to kill innocent people. look at Boston to be that evil that you want to kill innocent people, people that you don't even know.
the US govt should never allow one muslim in this country and expel those who live here now.
I agree, look how Islam is destroying Europe.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#502112 Dec 23, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Well yet you need to keep looking. You're missing it.
One thing you won't find in the Bible is instructions to go by the Bible alone or a list of Biblical books to include. The Church came before the Bible..
Prayer beads were used in the 2nd century because the laity couldn't read and follow along when Monks read the 150 Psalms every morning. So they came up with a system where they'd quietly say the Lords Prayer while the Monks read each Psalm. The beads helped them count.
Again, this was BEFORE Christians had an actual canon of books for a Bible. So it doesn't make sense that you demand it has to be in the Bible.
Catlic Bible History Truth

The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their Bibles, come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the Inter-testamental Period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the Old Testament which was Malachi. The Inter-testamental period ended with the coming of Christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.

The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity." These are called non canonical books because when the canon of Scriptures (the sixty six books of the Old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early Christians they recognized that these books contained spurious material and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are "hidden" or "deuterocanonical" books. These books are also called "pseudepigraphal", meaning "false writings" to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B. C. and early centuries A. D. These books contain religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical Christians from the earliest times of churches.

Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the Bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the Old and Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the Book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. God has not added to His revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man...not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman Catholic church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. Further, some of the cults including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, also accept them as scripture. No biblical Christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there are no lost books of the Bible.

These books or writings from the Apocrypha that the Roman Catholic Church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Letter of Jeremiah, additions to Esther, Prayer of Azariah, Susanna (Daniel 13), and Bel and the Dragon (Daniel 14). Three other Apocryphal books in the Septuagint, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 & 2 Esdras, are not considered to be inspired or canonical by the Roman Catholic Church.

These books were not accepted by the Roman Catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300 years, since the inception of the Roman Church in the fourth Century, even they did not considered them inspired!!!!!!!!!

more later

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#502113 Dec 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, look how Islam is destroying Europe.
my son was in Paris when the muslims rioted and he had a difficult time getting back to Spain, they burned expensive homes and autos. they are animals and have no respect for anything or themselves

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#502114 Dec 23, 2013
an interior ministers urges people to respect muslims and the prosecutor has to try a muslim for trying to kill a policeman.

TRAPPES, France (AP)— About 250 people hurling projectiles clashed with police firing tear gas west of Paris, in apparent protest over enforcement of France’s ban on Islamic face veils. Five people were injured and six detained in the violence, authorities said Saturday.
The interior minister urged calm and dialogue, insisting on both the need for public order and respect for France’s Muslims. The incident in the town of Trappes on Friday night reflected sporadic tensions between police upholding France’s strict policies of secularism and those who accuse authorities of discriminating against France’s No. 2 religion.

A few garbage dumpsters in the area were torched and a bus shelter shattered in the Trappes unrest. Spent tear gas capsules lay on the road Saturday near the police station at the center of the violence.

A 14-year-old boy suffered a serious eye injury in the violence, from a projectile of unknown provenance, Prosecutor Vincent Lesclous told reporters. Four police officers were injured and six people were detained in the violence, said an official with the regional police administration.

The violence came after a gathering of about 200-250 people to protest the arrest of a man whose wife was ticketed Thursday for wearing a face veil. The husband tried to strangle an officer who was doing the ticketing, the prosecutor said

where is the respect due to the police officer who is doing his job?
Cisco Kid

United States

#502115 Dec 23, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
NOTE: Whoever got my name in the thread's Christmas raffle, I'm really hoping for a Chia Jesus this year.
A Chia Jesus might be nice.

I got a Chia Obama a couple of years ago and it promises to sprout and grow, but lies to me everytime.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#502116 Dec 23, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
A Chia Jesus might be nice.
I got a Chia Obama a couple of years ago and it promises to sprout and grow, but lies to me everytime.
Well, the problem with the Chia Jesus is when you tire of it, you can't get rid of it: Throw it away, and three days later, it's back.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#502117 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Catlic Bible History Truth
The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their Bibles, come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the Inter-testamental Period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the Old Testament which was Malachi. The Inter-testamental period ended with the coming of Christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.
The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity." These are called non canonical books because when the canon of Scriptures (the sixty six books of the Old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early Christians they recognized that these books contained spurious material and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are "hidden" or "deuterocanonical" books. These books are also called "pseudepigraphal", meaning "false writings" to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B. C. and early centuries A. D. These books contain religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical Christians from the earliest times of churches.
Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the Bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the Old and Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the Book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. God has not added to His revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man...not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman Catholic church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. Further, some of the cults including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, also accept them as scripture. No biblical Christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there are no lost books of the Bible.
These books or writings from the Apocrypha that the Roman Catholic Church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Letter of Jeremiah, additions to Esther, Prayer of Azariah, Susanna (Daniel 13), and Bel and the Dragon (Daniel 14). Three other Apocryphal books in the Septuagint, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 & 2 Esdras, are not considered to be inspired or canonical by the Roman Catholic Church.
These books were not accepted by the Roman Catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300 years, since the inception of the Roman Church in the fourth Century, even they did not considered them inspired!!!!!!!!!
more later
And yet they were included in the original KJV.

Dummy.

And by the way, you're a thief:

http://bible-truth.org/Apocrypha.html
Chess

Columbus, OH

#502118 Dec 24, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Can your religion do this?
In the last two weeks, over 500 ordinary Shiites, mostly
pilgrims on foot, have been blown up or shot to death
by Sunni co-religionists - their brothers in Islam.
Well, we'll never have to worry about a world caliphate.

When they aren't hating us; they are too busy hating themselves to get organized.
Cisco Kid

United States

#502119 Dec 24, 2013
Chess wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the problem with the Chia Jesus is when you tire of it, you can't get rid of it: Throw it away, and three days later, it's back.
I dunno man, the Chia Obama is more predictable, though still problematic.

Just when Chia Obama promises to grow, I am lied to again, he fails.
I'm beginning to think Obama's never going away.
Dude is like a hemorrhoid.
He just keep offensively popping up and is irritating.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#502120 Dec 24, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
I dunno man, the Chia Obama is more predictable, though still problematic.
Just when Chia Obama promises to grow, I am lied to again, he fails.
I'm beginning to think Obama's never going away.
Dude is like a hemorrhoid.
He just keep offensively popping up and is irritating.
Note to self: Just say no to the Chia Obama.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#502121 Dec 24, 2013
Nite all.

I'll respond to the hate mail in the morning.

Or not.

Note to June: Remember to take your meds.
truth

Kardinya, Australia

#502122 Dec 24, 2013
we not say Imam..we say sveto ime=holy name=ime=name=id
ako ti nemas sveto ime=if your name is not written
see
if others try remove
you need know
you can't be liar over Holy Spirit
you can't hide what is written long time ago..

Your Creator created everything and everyone what is visible and not visible..what you can understood and not understand.

You can't make Almighty bigger or not.
truth

Kardinya, Australia

#502123 Dec 24, 2013
i am not going where deceivers and possessors go
Liam

Chicago, IL

#502124 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Catlic Bible History Truth
The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their Bibles, come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the Inter-testamental Period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the Old Testament which was Malachi. The Inter-testamental period ended with the coming of Christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.
The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity." These are called non canonical books because when the canon of Scriptures (the sixty six books of the Old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early Christians they recognized that these books contained spurious material and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are "hidden" or "deuterocanonical" books. These books are also called "pseudepigraphal", meaning "false writings" to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B. C. and early centuries A. D. These books contain religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical Christians from the earliest times of churches.
Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the Bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the Old and Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the Book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. God has not added to His revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man...not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman Catholic church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. Further, some of the cults including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, also accept them as scripture. No biblical Christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there are no lost books of the Bible.
These books or writings from the Apocrypha that the Roman Catholic Church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Letter of Jeremiah, additions to Esther, Prayer of Azariah, Susanna (Daniel 13), and Bel and the Dragon (Daniel 14). Three other Apocryphal books in the Septuagint, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 & 2 Esdras, are not considered to be inspired or canonical by the Roman Catholic Church.
These books were not accepted by the Roman Catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300 years, since the inception of the Roman Church in the fourth Century, even they did not considered them inspired!!!!!!!!!
more later
Silly propaganda piece. Not based on fact, but lies.
For one:(and there shouldn't be a debate on this) Malachi wasn't the last OT book written. Not even in your incomplete OT canon. I believe Esther and Chronicles among other texts came after Malachi.
Your leaflet also says the Roman Church didn't accept the deuterocanonical books until 1546 ad. That's not true. The official list came out in the 3rd century by the CC. The oldest copied Christian bible which I posted yesterday contains the deuterocanonical book. The Guetenberg bible printed in 1452 contains the deuterocanonical Books. The council of Trent officially closed the canon when a new phenomena called Protestantism began removing inspired books from the Bible. The pillar and foundation of truth clarified the correct canon for us at Trent.

Eastern rite Catholic Churches and eastern Orthodox Churches also have the deuterocanonical books... So I'm not sure why this writer singles out the Roman Catholic Church.
Anyway, you could care less about truth. But its Christmas Eve, maybe you ought to forgo word games and deception today .

Since: Jun 10

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#502125 Dec 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly propaganda piece. Not based on fact, but lies.
For one:(and there shouldn't be a debate on this) Malachi wasn't the last OT book written. Not even in your incomplete OT canon. I believe Esther and Chronicles among other texts came after Malachi.
Your leaflet also says the Roman Church didn't accept the deuterocanonical books until 1546 ad. That's not true. The official list came out in the 3rd century by the CC. The oldest copied Christian bible which I posted yesterday contains the deuterocanonical book. The Guetenberg bible printed in 1452 contains the deuterocanonical Books. The council of Trent officially closed the canon when a new phenomena called Protestantism began removing inspired books from the Bible. The pillar and foundation of truth clarified the correct canon for us at Trent.
Eastern rite Catholic Churches and eastern Orthodox Churches also have the deuterocanonical books... So I'm not sure why this writer singles out the Roman Catholic Church.
Anyway, you could care less about truth. But its Christmas Eve, maybe you ought to forgo word games and deception today .
Catlic Bible History Truth

Why do non-Catholic authorities reject the Apocrypha as being a part of the sixty six books of the canon?

There are mainly five reasons:

1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.

2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture.

3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired Scripture.

4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling.

5. They show contradictions in the Bible.

mo coming,,,

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#502126 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Catlic Bible History Truth
Why do non-Catholic authorities reject the Apocrypha as being a part of the sixty six books of the canon?
There are mainly five reasons:
1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.
2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture.
3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired Scripture.
4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling.
5. They show contradictions in the Bible.
mo coming,,,
Based on that, the entire Bible should be abandoned.

Truth:

Around 350 AD the Emperor Constantine made "The Bible" the "Word of God" by Imperial Decree.

Over 1000 years later, Protestants removed a few books from the "Word of God" based on the Jewish Canon.

Both Protestants and Catholics have the identical New Testament.

Both Protestants and Catholics claim they are right and the others wrong.

Both Protestants and Catholics are egotistical morons who think they are better than everyone else because some asshole said so centuries after Jesus died for ALL MANKIND.

You all think you own God and can tell God what to do.

"Jesus wept."

.
Liam

Chicago, IL

#502128 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Catlic Bible History Truth
Why do non-Catholic authorities reject the Apocrypha as being a part of the sixty six books of the canon?
There are mainly five reasons:
1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.
2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture.
3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired Scripture.
4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling.
5. They show contradictions in the Bible.
mo coming,,,
1. If your using historical inaccuracies for your measuring stick, then you'll need to remove a few more books than the deuterocanonical texts.

2. They teach doctrine that is false? Says who?.

3. Says who?

4. Not to me. I get inspired from reading Sirach and the last two chapters of Daniel. If 'feeling' good is your litmus test for inspired books, then I presume Forest Gump is in your canon?

5. No they don't.

I'm curious to know you these "non catholic authorities" are who reject the Apocrypha.
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#502129 Dec 24, 2013
Several priests requested the arch-bishop to resign.



Archdiocese under scrutiny

.....Subsequent reports showed Nienstedt and other bishops gave special payments to child-abusing priests, failed to call police about possible child pornography on a priest's computer, and protected a priest who admitted sexually assaulting several boys on the Rosebud Indian Reservation in South Dakota in the 1970s.

.......Archbishop John Nienstedt celebrated Sunday Mass at Our Lady of Grace parish in Edina, Minn., Dec. 15. He asked parishioners for forgiveness, saying he is sorry he's overlooked the issue of clergy sexual abuse.

.......The revelations have rocked the archdiocese and Nienstedt has struggled to respond. The archbishop postponed a $160 million capital campaign and hired a crisis communications firm. Several priests have asked Nienstedt to resign. Good for them! Its obvious there is a huge divide among the clergy in this diocese.

****Anyone defending this arch-bishop becomes a co-conspirator themselves. No other way to describe it.

These church leaders bullied the abused by telling them that no one would ever believe them.

Catholics by the most part..........REMAIN SILENT!

I will always standup for victims of crime, too bad many others don't.

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