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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688931 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Chess

Columbus, OH

#501857 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Ignatius was a Catholic theologian who was paid to write lies.
All theologians were paid to write lies.
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Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (98-117A.D.)– Epistle to the Magnesians
For if we are still practicing Judaism, we admit that we have not received God’s favor…it is wrong to talk about Jesus Christ and live like Jews.
I'm sure this comment had something to do with the Secret Gospel of Mark in your mind.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501858 Dec 22, 2013
Chess wrote:
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I'm sure this comment had something to do with the Secret Gospel of Mark in your mind.
In your mind is where it originated for YOU. I don't believe any theology whatsoever was based on truth.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#501859 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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In your mind is where it originated for YOU. I don't believe any theology whatsoever was based on truth.
Doesn't matter.

What matters is from whence the modern Christian theology arises.

It likely arises through Secret Mark.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501860 Dec 22, 2013
The term "secret gospel" makes SUCKERS want to find out about the supposed "secret knowledge" that supposedly exists in the cults.

Because he needed to have faith to replace his earlier disappointment in Catholicism, my father fell for that line used on him by the men of the Rosicrucian Order.

If a creator exists and keeps secrets from some and gives wisdom to others ... the creator is a major conniving game-player.

All religion is BUNK!

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#501861 Dec 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
Perhaps your scientists will determine every murderer should not be in prison because they were born with the MURDER gene. Maybe every rapist and thief should be released from prison because they were born with the rapist and thief gene and what they did is not really their fault. Should society release Charles Manson and every serial killer and rapist that are in prison because what they did is not their fault. God made them a killer and a rapist. Right?
You are as dumb as a post. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Cly, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Cheap. Are you interested?
FREE WILL------ever heard of FREE WILL?
Logic and reason? Your logic has no reason other than to justify your sin and promote the perversion your self professed church endorses. Put that is your logical pipe and smoke it OldCly.
<quoted text>
OldCly said, quote, "Is drug addiction or alcohol addiction a sin? " End quote.
Answer: YES
OldCly said, quote, "many people are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own." End quote.
Yes, many people, BABIES, are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own. Not adults idiot.
OldCly said, quote, " Its entirely reasonable to think SOME people are born attracted to the same sex. I don't believe all homosexuals were born that way." End quote.
Nobody, not ever, was born a homosexual. Just as nobody, not ever, was born a liar, murderer and a thief. Lying, murdering and stealing is a CHOICE. Again, have you ever heard of FREE WILL.
OldCly said, quote, "Some had daddy issues and something triggered this lifestyle." End quote.
Daddy issues? Something triggered this lifestyle? Ever heard of SIN. And to sin is a CHOICE. Every society that ever existed knew the difference between right and wrong. EVERY. Do you know the difference OldCly?
Breathe slowly, collect your thoughts, and put them in a cogent sentence or two.

You can do it.

I have confidence in you.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501862 Dec 22, 2013
When I was under the spell of religion, I never believed that a creator would find me more appealing than any other devout believer in any other religion ... or an Agnostic, or an Atheist. And for that, I am thankful.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#501863 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The term "secret gospel" makes SUCKERS want to find out about the supposed "secret knowledge" that supposedly exists in the cults.
Because he needed to have faith to replace his earlier disappointment in Catholicism, my father fell for that line used on him by the men of the Rosicrucian Order.
If a creator exists and keeps secrets from some and gives wisdom to others ... the creator is a major conniving game-player.
All religion is BUNK!
You're frothing, June.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501864 Dec 22, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Breathe slowly, collect your thoughts, and put them in a cogent sentence or two.
You can do it.
I have confidence in you.
Catholics and Protestants are not on the same page of the same bible.

Pope Leo X hated Martin Luther, and Martin Luther hated the pope.

And they both preached that they knew how "Jesus" wanted them to behave.

And as we can witness on this forum among that Catholics and Protestants, nothing has changed.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#501865 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Are you claiming that you Catholics were and are humble, contrite and meek???
:)
Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican
June

No I am not. I claim those that follow Jesus Christ, that seek his will, must be humble, contrite, and meek. At least they must move in that direction. If they don't, then they are misled, or mistaken in their understanding. Of course this may be instantaneous, but generally takes a lifetime....
Pad

Rockford, IL

#501866 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
In early Christianity it was the Catholics against the Jews, and that became the reason for centuries of slaughter by the Catholics that were given full power over all other religions in the Roman empire to follow their own wills.
The popes ordered the tortures, the imprisonments and the murder of any group that dared to disagree with Catholic doctrine. And the Jews were left at Catholic mercy ... which was never intended by the ex-Jew Catholics to be forthcoming.
To preach for all those centuries that a Jew named Jesus worked in their confessionals forgiving sins of Catholics would make any Jew on earth grit his teeth at the audacity of such preaching.
I hope that the Jews don't hold grudges ... because if they do ... the Catholics best beware that the tide of brutality might turn and go the other direction.
Just coming in for a quick visit,and ran across this.June you have made an assessment here that is not far from the truth.That is why we have Protestantism! The Political ventures of Early Roman Catholicism was especially ruthless,and we know that the INQUISITION evidenced more than people wanted to admit,the horrible treatment of non-Catholics,targeting the Prots and Jews.

The Jews were the first to experience the political might of ROME,(RCCh).It is quite obvious that the RCCh changed the whole atmosphere of the Simplicity of Christianity that remained soley commited to Jesus Christ, to a greedy quest for land,kingdoms and Nations.It is a blemish that the whole of the Christian Church will have to carry till Christ Returns.His Nature,and all He taught never gave the license for His followers to rule nations with an iron fist,throwing people in prisons,and torturing them till they confessed to trumped up charges.Many of those poor souls were burned to a stake(Auto-Fe)..If you read the New Testament with an open mind you will see that the character and nature of Jesus could never condone the death of one human being by means of torture,in order to convert their soul to HIM.

A forced conversion is not what the Creator wants,He wants a person to choose Him from their hearts,using their will to make that most wonderful decision to take Jesus as one's Savior and Lord.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#501867 Dec 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
Perhaps your scientists will determine every murderer should not be in prison because they were born with the MURDER gene. Maybe every rapist and thief should be released from prison because they were born with the rapist and thief gene and what they did is not really their fault. Should society release Charles Manson and every serial killer and rapist that are in prison because what they did is not their fault. God made them a killer and a rapist. Right?
You are as dumb as a post. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Cly, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Cheap. Are you interested?
FREE WILL------ever heard of FREE WILL?
Logic and reason? Your logic has no reason other than to justify your sin and promote the perversion your self professed church endorses. Put that is your logical pipe and smoke it OldCly.
<quoted text>
OldCly said, quote, "Is drug addiction or alcohol addiction a sin? " End quote.
Answer: YES
OldCly said, quote, "many people are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own." End quote.
Yes, many people, BABIES, are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own. Not adults idiot.
OldCly said, quote, " Its entirely reasonable to think SOME people are born attracted to the same sex. I don't believe all homosexuals were born that way." End quote.
Nobody, not ever, was born a homosexual. Just as nobody, not ever, was born a liar, murderer and a thief. Lying, murdering and stealing is a CHOICE. Again, have you ever heard of FREE WILL.
OldCly said, quote, "Some had daddy issues and something triggered this lifestyle." End quote.
Daddy issues? Something triggered this lifestyle? Ever heard of SIN. And to sin is a CHOICE. Every society that ever existed knew the difference between right and wrong. EVERY. Do you know the difference OldCly?
We're talking about two different things,'ol g. To have gay sex is wrong. Its a sin. But to have attraction and not act on it, is not a sin.

(this is why fundies need something more than their Bible interpretations. Jesus knew better than to have y'all running around with Bibles in your hands. He left us with a Church which is the pillar and foundation of truth, per scripture.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501868 Dec 22, 2013
When the Catholics and Protestants took up arms against each other, it took some of the heat off of the Jews.

But Catholics had long memories and they were not about to forgive the Jews for killing the "savior."

Crazy people and their crazed dogmas will never strive for peace.

Neo-Nazi is a word that should not exist. Nazi is the only term necessary to keep the movement of hate against the Jews alive and VERY UNWELL.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#501869 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholics and Protestants are not on the same page of the same bible.
Pope Leo X hated Martin Luther, and Martin Luther hated the pope.
And they both preached that they knew how "Jesus" wanted them to behave.
And as we can witness on this forum among that Catholics and Protestants, nothing has changed.
I'm sure you think your post is relevant, June.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501870 Dec 22, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Just coming in for a quick visit,and ran across this.June you have made an assessment here that is not far from the truth.That is why we have Protestantism!
Protestantism came to earth through the ex-Catholic-monk Martin Luther, who wanted to marry a nun, and so he felt an URGE to change the "mind" of god to suit his own penis and testicles.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#501871 Dec 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
Perhaps your scientists will determine every murderer should not be in prison because they were born with the MURDER gene. Maybe every rapist and thief should be released from prison because they were born with the rapist and thief gene and what they did is not really their fault. Should society release Charles Manson and every serial killer and rapist that are in prison because what they did is not their fault. God made them a killer and a rapist. Right?
You are as dumb as a post. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Cly, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Cheap. Are you interested?
FREE WILL------ever heard of FREE WILL?
Logic and reason? Your logic has no reason other than to justify your sin and promote the perversion your self professed church endorses. Put that is your logical pipe and smoke it OldCly.
<quoted text>
OldCly said, quote, "Is drug addiction or alcohol addiction a sin? " End quote.
Answer: YES
OldCly said, quote, "many people are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own." End quote.
Yes, many people, BABIES, are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own. Not adults idiot.
OldCly said, quote, " Its entirely reasonable to think SOME people are born attracted to the same sex. I don't believe all homosexuals were born that way." End quote.
Nobody, not ever, was born a homosexual. Just as nobody, not ever, was born a liar, murderer and a thief. Lying, murdering and stealing is a CHOICE. Again, have you ever heard of FREE WILL.
OldCly said, quote, "Some had daddy issues and something triggered this lifestyle." End quote.
Daddy issues? Something triggered this lifestyle? Ever heard of SIN. And to sin is a CHOICE. Every society that ever existed knew the difference between right and wrong. EVERY. Do you know the difference OldCly?
Btw, oldjeep, people who are born addicted to drugs and alcohol grow up and become adults. This addiction doesn't go away and they'd do good to avoid drinking.
Just curious why you agree that people are born addicted to drugs and alcohol but not attraction to the same sex?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#501872 Dec 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Perhaps your scientists will determine every murderer should not be in prison because they were born with the MURDER gene. Maybe every rapist and thief should be released from prison because they were born with the rapist and thief gene and what they did is not really their fault. Should society release Charles Manson and every serial killer and rapist that are in prison because what they did is not their fault. God made them a killer and a rapist. Right?
You are as dumb as a post. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Cly, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Cheap. Are you interested?
FREE WILL------ever heard of FREE WILL?
Logic and reason? Your logic has no reason other than to justify your sin and promote the perversion your self professed church endorses. Put that is your logical pipe and smoke it OldCly.
<quoted text>
OldCly said, quote, "Is drug addiction or alcohol addiction a sin? " End quote.
Answer: YES
OldCly said, quote, "many people are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own." End quote.
Yes, many people, BABIES, are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own. Not adults idiot.
OldCly said, quote, " Its entirely reasonable to think SOME people are born attracted to the same sex. I don't believe all homosexuals were born that way." End quote.
Nobody, not ever, was born a homosexual. Just as nobody, not ever, was born a liar, murderer and a thief. Lying, murdering and stealing is a CHOICE. Again, have you ever heard of FREE WILL.
OldCly said, quote, "Some had daddy issues and something triggered this lifestyle." End quote.
Daddy issues? Something triggered this lifestyle? Ever heard of SIN. And to sin is a CHOICE. Every society that ever existed knew the difference between right and wrong. EVERY. Do you know the difference OldCly?
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Breathe slowly, collect your thoughts, and put them in a cogent sentence or two.
You can do it.
I have confidence in you.
Take a breath. Collect your thoughts and put them in an easily understood sentence or two I can do it. CAN YOU? I have absolutely no confidence in you but give it the old college try.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501873 Dec 22, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
We're talking about two different things,'ol g. To have gay sex is wrong. Its a sin. But to have attraction and not act on it, is not a sin.
But for Catholics to kill homosexuals as sinner was NOT a sin ... according to your DIVINE mental intervention ... HUH???

You blathering IDIOT!!!
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342: Christian Emperors Constans and Contantinus create a law against samesex
marriages.

390: homosexuality is declared a crime in several Christian empires&#894; those found guilty are sentenced to be burnt alive in public.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#501874 Dec 22, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure you think your post is relevant, June.
Yes ... I do, or I wouldn't have posted it.

You wanted to make a big issue out of Ignatius supporting a Catholic dogma. What else would you expect from a Catholic theologian but TO support his own dogma???

Again ... it's adhering to a reflection in one's own "looking glass."

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#501875 Dec 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
Perhaps your scientists will determine every murderer should not be in prison because they were born with the MURDER gene. Maybe every rapist and thief should be released from prison because they were born with the rapist and thief gene and what they did is not really their fault. Should society release Charles Manson and every serial killer and rapist that are in prison because what they did is not their fault. God made them a killer and a rapist. Right?
You are as dumb as a post. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Cly, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Cheap. Are you interested?
FREE WILL------ever heard of FREE WILL?
Logic and reason? Your logic has no reason other than to justify your sin and promote the perversion your self professed church endorses. Put that is your logical pipe and smoke it OldCly.
<quoted text>
OldCly said, quote, "Is drug addiction or alcohol addiction a sin? " End quote.
Answer: YES
OldCly said, quote, "many people are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own." End quote.
Yes, many people, BABIES, are born addicted to drugs through no fault of their own. Not adults idiot.
OldCly said, quote, " Its entirely reasonable to think SOME people are born attracted to the same sex. I don't believe all homosexuals were born that way." End quote.
Nobody, not ever, was born a homosexual. Just as nobody, not ever, was born a liar, murderer and a thief. Lying, murdering and stealing is a CHOICE. Again, have you ever heard of FREE WILL.
OldCly said, quote, "Some had daddy issues and something triggered this lifestyle." End quote.
Daddy issues? Something triggered this lifestyle? Ever heard of SIN. And to sin is a CHOICE. Every society that ever existed knew the difference between right and wrong. EVERY. Do you know the difference OldCly?
<quoted text>
Take a breath. Collect your thoughts and put them in an easily understood sentence or two I can do it. CAN YOU? I have absolutely no confidence in you but give it the old college try.
I'll take that for "no".

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#501876 Dec 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As much as your arrogant will demands it to be true ... no Jewish Rabbi that went by the prestigious title of Rabboni would ever teach Catholicism as being based on truth. EVER!!!
Stomp your Catholicized feet in a tantrum if it so pleases you ... but you can't turn (within the theology) a king of the Jews into a Catholic pope, cardinal or a priest or even a supporter of Catholic nuns.
It just would NOT occur!!!
June

I can't be sure as to what you mean. Just to many things going on in such a short paragraph.

Since I doubt if Jesus considered himself a Jewish Rabbi, but was given the title Rabonni, meaning spiritual master, teacher, well-respected, by the Truth-seeking Jews about him. More or less by default, they considered him of higher authority, than the Jewish Rabbi's around....

He was there to offer a spiritual heaven to all, including Jew and Gentile.

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