Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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Preston, zip it. you are the biggest phony I've ever confronted. Talk about a liar. You have no clue what a liar is. Your whole ministry is a lie. Look in your files on me, you sociopath. Prove I lied. I gave an opinion on Mike. Anyone who has basic reading skills knows it was MY opinion. Now of course I have no way of really knowing about his attraction. That's why normal readers can see I was giving my personal opinion.
Although I don't know mike personally, I been on here for a couple yrs with him and I know he has a ridiculously enormous devotion to the subject of child sex abuse and he will not let it go. That's not normal and you know it.
You Are The Big Phony!! You DID NOT GIVE YOUR OPINION..No where in your post did you claim" this is my own opinion" YOU CLAIM THE WORD IS...WHICH MAKES IT SO...YOU are now the LIAR so why don't you ZIP IT...

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No I said he's attracted to children. I don't know if he's a molester. I pray not. I base this on his 24/7 obsession over the topic for 3 yrs now. Everyday. That fact alone should raise eyebrows for everybody.
And are you qualified to make this diagnoses? Whats your degree in..stupidity...

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Seriously no one has any evidence or proof (its just your belief) that what happens to you when you die is no different than what happens to me and everyone else. IF there really is a loving God I can't believe he would create Billions of people then sort us out like some kind of game...... your good your bad, you are good you are bad.
Fear is what motivates people to believe. Fear of failure, fear of an eternity of fire. Religious leaders learned long before the name Jesus was ever mentioned, that instilling FEAR can make people do just about anything you want them to. Marketing 101.
2 things,Michael.

Heaven is,God's,home ..would you want people,Livni with you eh o fiendishly existed or cursed you.

You learnedmorality as a,child ...maybe,something happened to turn you off the Catholic CHURCH..But that's,Not God ..that's,men directly long against GODS,WISHES..

If was,wrong I lose,nothing in the,afterlife ... if you are,and there is,a,loving God wanting to love you ..you've lost everything ..

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Michael is attracted to children. I'm not trying to be funny either. Any 9th grade psychology student can see there is something behind his obsession over the topic. It was probably allot easier to become atheist then to think about facing God over his struggle.
Nobody devotes that much time to this sort of subject unless there is something else going on.
AGAIN why go to that reason ??? And,make accusations,..that's,just a,wrong thing ..IMO

Other reasons,for his,posts,spring to mind more...if you think on it???

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How beautiful! MERRY CHRISTmas to all!
The United States Air Force Band performed a flash mob at the Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum on Dec. 3. What you are about to see and hear will bring tears to your eyes and joy to your heart.
What a blessing to know that in spite of the ILLEGAL Obama administration’s attacks on Religious Liberty in Our Armed Forces, there are still men and women willing to declare,“Joy to the World, the LORD is Come!”
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...
FANTASTIC ..THANK YOU .

I didn't click on the links below ..don't want go get angry ..

Everyone clapped too....didn't see ONE OFFENDED PERSON..GOD BLESS THRM ALL...lol a like THRY have other concerts scheduled for Christmas ..

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No I said he's attracted to children. I don't know if he's a molester. I pray not. I base this on his 24/7 obsession over the topic for 3 yrs now. Everyday. That fact alone should raise eyebrows for everybody.
I don't see how you jumped to your conclusion..Clay ..

Other reasons come to mind ..as I said earlier ...But none of us knows and its his business ..

Whatever it is he feels,betrayed by the Church ..hats,sad is,that shrinks,that betrayal to God ..
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Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> You need to look up the definition of slander before you throw it around using it as a weapon for righteousness.
I know what it means, saying a group of people molest children without proof and based on heresay is slander.

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God told you in an audible voice to grab a KJV and hold it up to someones forehead.
The Apostle Paul told your Grandpa to give you a message.
Those are called lies, Preston. What I said was MY opinion. I don't always use the best choice of words. I'll sleep on it and consider taking it back. But if I do it certainly won't be because a fraud pastor called me out. If a fellow Catholic says "Clay, you were wrong" then that carries some weight.
get YOUR stories straight. first I never laid my Bible on his head or on any other part of his body. I LIAD ONE HAND ON MY BIBLE(KJV) AND THEN OTHER ON HIM(CATHIES DAD) AND AFTER PRAYER. HE WAS TOUCHED BY THE LORD.

and I have never said that Paul told my grandfather anything. I said he seen some of the Apostles but what I did say was that he told me that he had been sent back by the greats in Heaven who had talked to him.

and no they are not lies nor can you prove that you are correct and not lying about those Experiences. just BECAUSE YOU DONT ACCEPT THEM , FIRST MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME AND SECOND NOR TO GOD.

you are always lying about one thing or another, and someday, it will send you to hell, no matter how many pieces of grain that you consume.

now go back in the first 1000 pages and you will find if you look that my words are the same today as they were back then and the reason is obvious, truth NEVER CHANGES.LOL
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<quoted text>He has a right to view his OPINION on this forum without YOU implying that he is a child molester
Liam is right. Also anyone who obsesses over a subject such as what Michael is posting about shows he may have a disorder. And if he has been doing it for three years? Sick, sick, sick.

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Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>I know what it means, saying a group of people molest children without proof and based on heresay is slander.
Look it up again....and stop using Mother Goose Nursery Rhymes to look up the word..
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<quoted text>He has a right to view his OPINION on this forum without YOU implying that he is a child molester
Remember what you posted, so you won't harp on others.
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<quoted text>Look it up again....and stop using Mother Goose Nursery Rhymes to look up the word..
Honey, I don't, but you? Yes you do. You are the most immature small minded freak on this forum. Don't like what I posted? tough cookies for you.

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Preston, zip it. you are the biggest phony I've ever confronted. Talk about a liar. You have no clue what a liar is. Your whole ministry is a lie. Look in your files on me, you sociopath. Prove I lied. I gave an opinion on Mike. Anyone who has basic reading skills knows it was MY opinion. Now of course I have no way of really knowing about his attraction. That's why normal readers can see I was giving my personal opinion.
Although I don't know mike personally, I been on here for a couple yrs with him and I know he has a ridiculously enormous devotion to the subject of child sex abuse and he will not let it go. That's not normal and you know
So I guess in your scenario then Nick is also like Michael since Nick worked with juvenile sex offenders and did his job for 33 years.And also working with the victims of these sex offenders. your thinking is wrong. You said what you said to Michael to hurt him. Admit it.

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for clay, THE TRUTH.

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Atemcowboy, why do we have to be against each other? I think that we can find common ground among us. We do not have to try to convert each other but have the type of conversation that I think that our Savior would want us to have. John
John you seem like a nice person so it is nothing personal, strictly business. you and other catholics dislike my words(attitude), no problem. but when you head honcho(not mine) tells we who are born again chrisitian that wwe are not part of the true church, then my anger boils over. I know what God did do for me and I dont have to take a backseat to anyone and that includes the pope and the vatican. why would God save me on Jan 30, 1965, why would God send my grandfather back to earth to tell me that I had a job to do for the Lord? like it or not, but this is part of my work he called me to. you are sincere, I have no doubt about that and you seem like a nice man and for certain a great companion for your wife in her time of need. and after saying that I can say this, all of the teachings and the rituals you have performed(including that baptism at 6 weeks old) will not insure you a place in Heaven, only that born again experience assures you of that entrance, and unlike that experience at 6 weeks old, this one you will know for certain, is exactly as Jesus to that teacher. I am bound to God and His word. Jesus said my sheep know my voice and another they will not follow. so there is no way that I could ,nor would I wish to, fellowship with you in a Cgristian setting. you see, I dont go to beer bashes and I dont attend church bingo games, orany other type of gambling games. when I go to some place and they give youa ticket for a drawing of some sorts, I ALWAYS refuse there offer of that ticket, and that sir is part of teh difference between you and I. For I am reminded through the Spirit, of the Day of My Lords sacrifice. of those romans who gambled for the clothes of my Savior. The way ,sir, is narrow and few therea re that walk that way, but broad is the way for those who choose another way as lily said, some time I go a on a tangent and she cant understand. I agree, the way that Jesus taught is one you cant understand unless you follow HIM

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<quoted text>Honey, I don't, but you? Yes you do. You are the most immature small minded freak on this forum. Don't like what I posted? tough cookies for you.
Post facts not fairy tales....

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<quoted text>Remember what you posted, so you won't harp on others.
I don't accuse someone of being a child molester....I guess you approve of what clay said to Michael...no surprise there

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<quoted text>Liam is right. Also anyone who obsesses over a subject such as what Michael is posting about shows he may have a disorder. And if he has been doing it for three years? Sick, sick, sick.
wrong...he is posting over and over His belief about your church as Hojo posts over and over the same about your church. Now, is hojo sick sick sick,,or has a disorder?? he is repeating the same thing...Problem is...you catholics don't like the negative over and over post but your all for what you believe to be the positive for your church....

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<quoted text>I know what it means, saying a group of people molest children without proof and based on heresay is slander.
Baby Doll, there has been proof which does not make it heresy or slander. Look up the word Heresy...
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<quoted text>Paul was in Roma, no evidence that Peter ever set foot in that city. and when Paul wrote about men coming to see him, the name of Peter was NOT mentioned. the answer is obvious, peter wasn't there
Don't be so foolish and ignorant of facts.

Any Bible scholar will tell you Babylon was the code name for Rome; as in Rev 14:8; 17:5; 18:2.
Just read the doxology at 1Peter 5:12,13 from "the chosen one", or pope, St.Peter and the disciple John Mark.
"I write you this briefly through Silvanus, whom I consider a faithful brother, exhorting you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Remain firm in it.
The chosen one at Babylon sends you greeting, as does Mark, my son."

That St.Peter lived and died in Rome is a very well established tradition backed by fact.

St. Peter's residence and death in Rome are established beyond contention as historical facts by a series of distinct testimonies extending from the end of the first to the end of the second centuries, and issuing from several lands.

The manner and the place of his death must have been known in widely extended Christian circles at the end of the first century is clear from the remark introduced into the Gospel of St. John concerning Christ's prophecy that Peter was bound to Him and would be led whither he would not — "And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God" (John 21:18-19, see above). Such a remark presupposes in the readers of the Fourth Gospel a knowledge of the death of Peter.

St. Peter's First Epistle was written almost undoubtedly from Rome, since the salutation at the end reads: "The church that is in Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you: and so doth my son Mark" (5:13).
Babylon here is identified with the Roman capital; since Babylon on the Euphrates, which lay in ruins, or New Babylon on the Tigris, or the Egyptian Babylon near Memphis, or Jerusalem cannot be meant, the reference must be to Rome, the only city which is called Babylon elsewhere in ancient Christian literature (Revelation 17:5; 18:10; "Oracula Sibyl.", V, verses 143 and 159, ed. Geffcken, Leipzig, 1902, 111).

Another testimony concerning the martyrdom of Peter and Paul is supplied by Clement of Rome in his Epistle to the Corinthians (written about A.D. 95-97), wherein he says (chapter 5):
"Through zeal and cunning the greatest and most righteous supports of the Church have suffered persecution and been warred to death. Let us place before our eyes the good Apostles — St. Peter, who in consequence of unjust zeal, suffered not one or two, but numerous miseries, and, having thus given testimony, has entered the merited place of glory".
He is speaking undoubtedly, as the whole passage proves, of the Neronian persecution, and thus refers the martyrdom of Peter and Paul to that epoch.

Irenaeus of Lyons, a native of Asia Minor and a disciple of Polycarp of Smyrna (a disciple of St. John), passed a considerable time in Rome shortly after the middle of the second century, and then proceeded to Lyons, where he became bishop in 177; he described the Roman Church as the most prominent and chief preserver of the Apostolic tradition, as "the greatest and most ancient church, known by all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul"
(Against Heresies 3.3; cf. 3.1).
He thus makes use of the universally known and recognized fact of the Apostolic activity of Peter and Paul in Rome, to find therein a proof from tradition against the heretics.

The apocryphal Acts of St. Peter and the Acts of Sts. Peter and Paul likewise belong to the series of testimonies of the death of the two Apostles in Rome.

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FATHER.
I come again with prayer for everyone here.
Please grant healing for everyone in each family who needs it.
You know the needs,of each of us,and OUR loved ones .
We pray Your Spirit brings,the Good News to Family members who had not yet believed and that you bring your comfort to all.
Let us at this,special season ..find peace HERE .
In Jesus,Precious,Name, Amen
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

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