Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683876 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492934 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Preston
Peace
There is a difficulty in understanding the Bible. It rests in whether it is in the "old" or "new" man in Christ.
Please NOTE that Robert F. is here to preach his Catholicism as the only truth on earth.

How funny. His religion suggests that I will spend eternity in hell, and he wants me to be NICE to him, while he insults me.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492935 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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There is a difficulty in understanding the Bible.
Actually, it's very plain. It indicates that a Jew left his own father's religion to become an anti-Semitic preacher promoting Catholicism as his new religion.

There's nothing difficult about THAT to understand.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492936 Nov 19, 2013
Anti-Jewish measures

Clement VIII tightened measures against the Jewish inhabitants of his territories. In 1592, the papal bull Cum saepe accidere forbade the Jewish community of the Comtat Venaissin of Avignon, a papal enclave, to sell new goods, putting them at an economic disadvantage. In 1593, the bull Caeca et Obdurata reiterated Pope Pius V's decree of 1569 which banned Jews from living in the Papal states outside the cities of Rome, Ancona, and Avignon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Clement_VII...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#492937 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Preston
Peace
There is a difficulty in understanding the Bible. It rests in whether it is in the "old" or "new" man in Christ.
There is a sort of competition within each of us to understand within ourselves what God has done in being born-again.
Most often the conflict of dogmas comes from our "old" man's understanding, and how we relate to the Bible in our experiences.
It is a good to know that the gift of the Holy Spirit is understanding(along with wisdom, knowledge, piety, fortitude, and good council). It is better to know that we as the old man have none of these gifts in our fallen nature.
Peace
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God"

Self
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492938 Nov 19, 2013
The Catholics needed to indicate that a savior would be a Jew that abandoned his father's religion to become a Catholic. That meant that Jesus willingly left his own father's religion.

That devious plot resulted in Catholics NEVER using the name of the god as being Jehovah, or Elohim, or Adonai, et cetera.

The god had to be perceived as favoring Catholicism, NOT Judaism ... as the scheme otherwise would never work to Catholic favor.

And so the Catholics worshipped the god as just plain "God."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492939 Nov 19, 2013
Once the Catholic theologians started the Jesus-myth as indicating that a Jew was wise enough and POWERFUL enough to disobey his own Jewish father, it was easy for them to create the idea that the Jewish apostles and Mary also followed Jesus into Catholicism.

Salvation became based on Jesus, and that gave the Catholics the power they needed to convince the blind-sighted Constantine to make Catholicism a "world" religion.

With the military of the empire supporting the scheme ... it almost worked.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492940 Nov 19, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God"
Self
You use the term God as though your definition of a god is the be-all and end-all concerning the corralling of absolute truth. But there were and are countless gods living in imaginations all over the globe known as earth.

You are simply arrogant enough to believe that your SELF aligns to the highest knowledge available to all humans.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492941 Nov 19, 2013
For humans to believe that a creator exists to favor them and their whims is simply nonsense.

Most humans of the world are starving to death and dying from starvation related diseases. And those same humans believe that gods favor humans over other animals.

But the fact is, it is the parasites that take most humans to their death by disease. And that must mean that the creator places more value on the parasites that kill the humans, than it does ON the humans.

Religion is bunk!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492942 Nov 19, 2013
Wacky theology

I am the creator. I created the all-powerful beasties that live off of human flesh. I created them tiny compared to humans, so that human arrogance would be taken down by the realization that I don't favor humans over other living entities.

Watch the humans try to explain why there is no cure for disease. They will use devils to explain why humans suffer ... but they don't care to know that even my little parasites suffer and die when they are deprived of human flesh.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492943 Nov 19, 2013
Only when you see that you are not special ... will you choose to leave the creator-myths to the arrogant garbage can of history.
Michael

Canada

#492944 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Michael
Yes. Why trust in men? Why trust one's own prejudiced mind?
Trust in God.
It has been awhile since last I wrote you. To be honest, your mind is so prejudiced against the possibility of God's existence that our conversations go nowhere....I take part in the failure to communicate. But not all the fault.
Peace
Human Being says........To be honest, your mind is so prejudiced against the possibility of God's existence that our conversations go nowhere.

Michael says......I just don't see the evidence. No one can confirm what is written in the bible is what actually happened. Its a book of stories.

....Isn't being born into a religion a prejudice? Most people of faith are so not because they found their belief but what their parents instilled into them, their prejudiced belief based on hand me down family tradition only. Religious belief is more of a family tradition, than the actual belief itself.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc. by the most part the same. Born into their families belief and taught only that belief.

It makes no common sense that a God who created all of us equally would only inform a very tiny number of people in a very tiny location in our world and expect all others to drop their beliefs and accept this new belief only because some men say so.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492945 Nov 19, 2013
On the program "Animal cops" a dog was brought in to the humane society full of long matted hair soaked in old urine and feces.

The staff at the humane society cut five pound of matted hair off the dog, that in turn was left with only five pounds of body weight. The staff found worms eating on the dog's flesh.

They were totally concerned with the suffering of the dog, but not at all concerned about the suffering of the worms that were simply doing what came naturally.

We are trained to believe that some forms of life are repulsive and other forms of life are endearing to our senses.

And that attitude is very alive and unwell in religion.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492946 Nov 19, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Human Being says........To be honest, your mind is so prejudiced against the possibility of God's existence that our conversations go nowhere.
Michael says......I just don't see the evidence. No one can confirm what is written in the bible is what actually happened. Its a book of stories.
....Isn't being born into a religion a prejudice? Most people of faith are so not because they found their belief but what their parents instilled into them, their prejudiced belief based on hand me down family tradition only. Religious belief is more of a family tradition, than the actual belief itself.
Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc. by the most part the same. Born into their families belief and taught only that belief.
It makes no common sense that a God who created all of us equally would only inform a very tiny number of people in a very tiny location in our world and expect all others to drop their beliefs and accept this new belief only because some men say so.
Religion is based on GREED.

"The creator not only loves humans more than other forms of life, but he loves me and my religion and rejects those in other religions.

And it is TRUE because 'I' said it is true."
sallygal

Donora, PA

#492951 Nov 19, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …
The Vatican is a joke obsolete
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492952 Nov 19, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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See I believe Clays,life was,changed ..it's,apparent ..And God was,behind it .
Jehovah supported yet another traitor to the Jewish religion???

:)

You're QUITE the preacher.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492953 Nov 19, 2013
Liam wrote:
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its a breath of fresh air meeting someone who's taking an honest look at both sides and forming their own opinion.
The thing with Clements Epistle is that it had to be written well after Peter died. That's not a big deal. When we say Peter ordained him, that doesn't mean Peter also was with him when he served as Pope. Just like John Paul II wasn't with Benedict and Francis- yet JP II made Francis a Cardinal some yrs ago.
We know from Clements Epistle that he was Bishop of Rome and he wrote with authority to the Church @ Corinth, commanding them to reinstate some Presbyters who were removed unjustly and without his approval. They obeyed him just like they obeyed his predecessor Peter.
Clement is also mentioned in the Bible if one of Pauls letters.
"Yes, and I ask you my true companions, help this woman since they have contended at my side, in the cause of the Gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my co-workers, who's names are in the book of life"
Phil 4:3
Now that can't be 100% proof that its the Clement of Rome, as fundamentalist will quickly point out. But they won't use sound evidence to say its not, rather, they don't want to believe its the same Clement, so they don't.
One thing for sure, there would not have been some guy telling the Church in Corinth what to do, unless he was a valid Bishop. And the people in Corinth would not have listened to him if he was just some guy.
and to many if not most, these [writings] of clement are spurious to say the least, also Paul is making it very clear that this Clement is[was] a fellowworker in the Preaching of the gospel and no doubt is from Phillipi.

try your best to learn and not depend on spam.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492954 Nov 19, 2013
Liam wrote:
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its a breath of fresh air meeting someone who's taking an honest look at both sides and forming their own opinion.
Well maybe so ... but (within the theology) whether Jehovah takes the issue from both sides is the question that should be asked by ALL Christians.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492955 Nov 19, 2013
clay to Ordain a person, other ministers are called to come and to lay hands on that person, and it cant be done via telephone, telegraph or other means.

what other kind of lies have you been exposed to?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492956 Nov 19, 2013
The latest fad in religion ... Wicca ... has transformed prisons to yet another morphed form of religion.

Wiccan prisoners don't want Christian preachers preaching at them when they are stuck behind bars.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

Wiccans Behind Bars Sue to Get Their Own Prison Chaplain

http://laist.com/2013/02/20/california_prison...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492957 Nov 19, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Actually, I think that link is from an Orthodox site.
It doesn't say Catholic. The writers didn't have to say the bread and wine changes into anything. People already accepted its the Body of the Lord. There was no need to clarify something that wasn't yet disputed.
Wasn't that the link you gave that poster ..

It's a good site ..I hasn't known what the Deutsche was but if it's from the,earl chur h weren't you guys,together then..

It spells out a lot of other things,..But says nothing about changing?

And those being baptized must fast two days??

Doesn't sound like babies,Clay ...any mom can tell you ..

At what point did the,RCC decide on baby baptism or Transubstantiation .
As it does,not seem like either when this,was written ..

Just saying ..I've seen you all use,the word Didache as an authority ..

My opinion has,remained that confirmation is closer to what non Catholics,do at Baptism .. if their hearts,are ready and its,nit just a,ritual at a certain age ..
thats,my opinion....

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