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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 682149 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Pearsall, Australia

#492911 Nov 19, 2013
your law is not my law..

Do you know who is Jesus?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#492913 Nov 19, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Tony,
The Law of Moses was both temporary and restricted in its jurisdiction.
Matthew 5:18
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is ACCOMPLISHED.
No Gentile was ever under the Mosaical covenant or law which was temporary.
Psalm 147:19-20
19 He has revealed his word to Jacob,
his laws and decrees to Israel.
20 <<<<<He has done this for no other nation;>>>>>
they do not know his laws.
Praise the Lord.
When the Law’s purpose is ACHIEVED the law will disappear.
Romans 8:2
2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.
Jesus Christ has set us FREE from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH (Law of Moses-Old Covenant.)
Galatians 3:19

19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed (JESUS) to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator (JESUS.)

Galatians 3:21-22

21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! <<<<<For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.>>>>>

22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was ~~~promised,~~~ being given through faith ~in Jesus Christ,~ might be given to those who believe.

*****For IF a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.

Another version:

Galatians 3:21

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid:*****for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.*****

*****for IF there had been a law given which could have given life,(SPIRITUAL) verily righteousness should have been by the law.

Hebrews 8:6

6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the <<<<<new covenant is established on better promises.>>>>>

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#492914 Nov 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"I'm done trying to convince you of anything. you have your interpretations,"
GOOD ..,
SINCE YOU ARE DONE ..with attempting to give your carnal minded account
INSTEAD OF THE WORD OF GOD.
I CAN GO ON POSTING THE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE (GOD'S WORD) WITHOUT YOUR INTERRUPTING LIES...(THAT IS US LESS YOU ARE LYING ABOUT BEING DONE..)
EVIDENTLY LIKE THE OTHER INFIDELS ON THIS FORUM... YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DECEIVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN AN TAKE THEM TO HELL WITH YOU.
IT IS BAD ENOUGH FOR A PERSON TO ATTEMPT TO COMMIT SPIRITUAL SUICIDE...
BUT TO ATTEMPT TO DESTROY OTHERS IN THE PROCESS IS A MORTAL SIN.
~~~
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
NOTE
Rom 1:25 --> Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. <--
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
~~~

JESUS SAID..

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

THERE IS NO ENTITY,.... DENOMINATION,... DYNASTY,....

RELIGIOUS SYSTEM... ETC ...

THAT SUPERSEDES THE ABOVE POWER/WORDS OF JESUS...

WORKS ..DON'T/WONT DO IT..

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

RITUALS ...AND CEREMONIES ARE FUTILE

Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

IDOLS ARE FORBIDDEN....an abomination.

Exo_20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

PRIDE...

Pro_16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

COMING BY THE WAY OF PETER...

JUST WONT/ DON'T WORK.

Pro_14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
truth

Pearsall, Australia

#492915 Nov 19, 2013
corupt evil satanic decevers and posessors
see they liked suffering for most righteousness people

but they going fall and lose everything
it is written
what evil killers and possessors want

game is game they liked put in risk everything and everyone

do you need poison in food

do you liked poison in medicine
do you liked be rich with corupt wicket evil diploma

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
truth

Pearsall, Australia

#492916 Nov 19, 2013
on inri law not exist
as well suffering

evil satanic corupt law is not law as well never will be
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

in future nobody will respet law or any authority
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo

corupt authority
is not law
i don't respect that
nooooooooooooo
never
truth

Pearsall, Australia

#492917 Nov 19, 2013
good people weeping every day

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#492918 Nov 19, 2013
JESUS SAID

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot -->see<--

-->SEE<-- DEFINED IN GREEK

G1492
&#949;&#953;&#787; &#769;&#948;&#969;
eido&#772;
i'-do
A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know:- be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider,(have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is =-->born<--=

=-->BORN <--= DEFINED IN GREEK

G1080
&#947;&#949;&#957; &#957;&#945;&#769; &#969;
gennao&#772;
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate:- bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.

of the

---> flesh is flesh;<---

--->FLESH<--- DEFINED IN GREEK

G4561
&#963;&#945;&#769; &#961;&#958;
sarx
sarx
Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is,(strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such):- carnal (-ly,+-ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

and that which is born of the

===> Spirit is spirit.<===

===>SPIRIT<=== DEFINED IN GREEK

G4151
&#960;&#957;&#949; &#965;&#834;&#956; &#945;
pneuma
pnyoo'-mah
From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is,(human) the rational soul,(by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit:- ghost, life, spirit (-ual,-ually), mind. Compare G5590.


Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye

--=> must<=--

(--=>MUST<=--DEFINED IN GREEK

G1163
&#948;&#949;&#953; &#834;
dei
die, deh-on'
Third person singular active present of G1210; also &#948;&#949;&#959; &#769;&#957; deon which is neuter active participle of the same; both used impersonally; it is (was, etc.) necessary (as binding):- behoved, be meet, must (needs),(be) need (-ful), ought, should.

be born again.
truth

Pearsall, Australia

#492919 Nov 19, 2013
when people weeping and suffering
there pride not exist

did law exist..on papers where someone always say ..prove...

yee
which direction you liked go
geometric
cemetrya semetria

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#492920 Nov 19, 2013
truth wrote:
when people weeping and suffering
there pride not exist
did law exist..on papers where someone always say ..prove...
yee
which direction you liked go
geometric
cemetrya semetria
~~~

Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492921 Nov 19, 2013
Michael wrote:
There is no evidence what so ever that the 4 gospels were written by the names associated with them. We take it for granted.
I don't take it for granted. I believe men wrote all the myths to suit their own agendas.

Religious blather was and is the blather of mortal human animals ... yearning to be superior to other animals.

For being so arrogant ... I suggest they deserve to fail.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#492922 Nov 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
~~~

THE NAME THAT IS WRITTEN ON THE SIGN IN FRONT OF YOU CHURCH WILL MEAN NOTHING WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD...

JESUS DID NOT DESIGNATE any special denomination when he said..

Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh_3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Joh_3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Joh_6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

Joh_7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Joh_11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Joh_12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

No one is saved by believing in any other entity but JESUS..

ONE IS BORN AGAIN BY...OBEDIENCE TO THE WORD THAT SAYS...

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492923 Nov 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
JESUS SAID
Catholic theologians also WROTE that John the baptist baptized Jesus the Jew ... before Jesus' died on the cross.

That means that Jesus was fully aware of becoming an anti-Semitist his SELF, as were all the popes, Martin Luther and John Calvin and NOW YOU!

Religion is male-oriented BUNK.
Human Being

Jena, LA

#492924 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
OH ... stop your double-talk. It gets boring.
You left Atheism to go back to Catholicism for the specific reason that they teach that YOU will go to heaven while others will go hell.
It was your arrogance that took you back to Catholicism ... and nothing BUT your arrogance.
And to top it off ... you think I should warm up to you, while you are busy looking down on me as fodder for hell.
You have SOME nerve.
June

Yes. Boring.

I will leave, rather than have you bored to tears.

Concerning warming....Fire is quenched by fire, not water.

If you should like to be nice, then we can write each other.

Peace
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492925 Nov 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
JESUS SAID
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot -->see<--
Are you suggesting that a Jew FAITHFUL to Judaism would want you born the second time into Christianity?

I suggest you are not that stupid ... but you ARE that stubborn.

The new testament was written by Catholics, FOR ONLY Catholics. And they aimed for that scripture to mean that Jesus said man must be born again as Catholics ... NOT Protestants.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#492926 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't take it for granted. I believe men wrote all the myths to suit their own agendas.
Religious blather was and is the blather of mortal human animals ... yearning to be superior to other animals.
For being so arrogant ... I suggest they deserve to fail.
~~~

YOU WROTE

I believe men wrote all the myths to suit their own agendas.

IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.....

JUST WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA...

YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY COMMITTING SUICIDE ...

DOING AS THE MAN THAT INTENDS TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND MAKES THE EFFORT TO

TAKE AS MANY TO HELL WITH HIM AS HE POSSIBLY CAN...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492927 Nov 19, 2013
No doubt if the new testament had been written by Protestant theologians, and Catholics had come in second in the Christian squabble of claiming to own truth ... the Catholics would be using the words in the new testament to suit their own religion.

Religion is living proof of how GREED to believe the SELF special ... will find its mark!
Human Being

Jena, LA

#492928 Nov 19, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
If over a couple thousand years you can't trust the messengers, how can you trust their message.
Sex abuse scandals have gone on for centuries committed by some messengers of the church and covered up by the rest of the messengers of the church, the most disgusting sins of all.
..... Money laundering scandals within the vatican bank have gone on since at least the 1980s. Again if you can't trust what they are doing, how can anyone trust what they preach..........and these issues are not 2,000 years old.
Michael

Yes. Why trust in men? Why trust one's own prejudiced mind?

Trust in God.

It has been awhile since last I wrote you. To be honest, your mind is so prejudiced against the possibility of God's existence that our conversations go nowhere....I take part in the failure to communicate. But not all the fault.

Peace
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492929 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
June
Yes. Boring.
I will leave, rather than have you bored to tears.
Concerning warming....Fire is quenched by fire, not water.
If you should like to be nice, then we can write each other.
Peace
Oh stop whining Robert F.

I don't intent to become a Catholic and write PEACE on my posts while creating religious dissention on earth.

I don't put your religion down any lower than all other religions, as I put all of them down as rubbish. You simply put other religions down and your own UP, and that is a very bad habit in deed.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#492930 Nov 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
I believe men wrote all the myths to suit their own agendas.
IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.....
I'm belittling ALL myths as BUNK!

You only place high value on your OWN religious myths, while belittling the myths of others.

You are so ignorant as to not recognize ... the new testament was written to serve ONLY Catholics ... NOT Protestants.

The book is anti-Semitic by its very nature and you don't mind that part as long as you believe that Jesus (a supposed Jew ... a traitor to Judaism ... of all things) will save you.

Pathetic.
Human Being

Jena, LA

#492931 Nov 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>First, I don't [interpret] the Bible, I read it and try my best to understand what is Written as Chuck does also.
we disagree on that [doctrine] which is all that it is. BUT we don't disagree on what Jesus said, which is that All must be Born Again to enter in Heaven. that, clay, is not doctrine which a church will publish on its own such as OSAS.
you will never find the words OSAS in the Bible, therefore it is not something that every person has to believe or follow, unlike Salvation as a Born Again Christian. therefore if a person such as myself or another that doesn't follow that [doctrine], we are free to attend another church that doesn't teach that type of doctrine.
saying that, if I am a Moron because one night at an altar of Prayer, I was Saved by the Blood of Jesus, Amen.
but I would much rather be a fool for Jesus than try and tell someone that I met the Holy Spirit in a jail cell. I have heard some stupid statements while on this forum but that one took the cake.
Preston

Peace

There is a difficulty in understanding the Bible. It rests in whether it is in the "old" or "new" man in Christ.

There is a sort of competition within each of us to understand within ourselves what God has done in being born-again.

Most often the conflict of dogmas comes from our "old" man's understanding, and how we relate to the Bible in our experiences.

It is a good to know that the gift of the Holy Spirit is understanding(along with wisdom, knowledge, piety, fortitude, and good council). It is better to know that we as the old man have none of these gifts in our fallen nature.

Peace

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