Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 697895 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#492099 Nov 15, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
The concept of limbo dates back 1500 years to the conflict between Pelagius and St. Augustine.
Pelagius asserted that man is not wounded by original sin and is capable of achieving salvation through his natural reason and will alone.
St. Augustine held that after the Fall from grace, as the result of Original Sin,human nature was deeply wounded, corrupted, disordered, changed, mutable, given to concupiscence, born guilty and selfish.
But what about infants who are wounded or stained by Original Sin and die before being baptized?
the idea of
A special place for unbaptized infants was proposed.
This concept of Limbo passed through intricate phases of development.
Augustine and the African Fathers postulated that unbaptized infants share in the common misery of the damned. However their punishment is the mildest of all.
In response to the Pelagian heresy, Augustine persuaded the Council of Carthage (418) to condemn, the the existence of "an intermediate place, or of any place anywhere at all in which children who pass out of this life unbaptized live in happiness"
Gregory of Nazianzus asserted children dying without baptism are excluded of seeing God face to face
In 1201 Pope Innocent III in a letter stated original sin, however, is punished by the loss of the vision of God.
By the thirteenth century, this view was dominant.
Abelard: rejected material torment/retained only the pain of loss as the punishment of original sin
Abelard's teaching was condemned by the Council of Soissons in 1140
However most of the Scholastics embraced this teaching.
Peter Lombard further popularized it
Aquinas broke away completely from the Augustinian tradition
He proposed that infants would not be troubled over their loss because they simply would have no knowledge of what they were missing.
Aquinas' view was received in the schools, almost without opposition
Augustinian teaching was revived at the Reformation, particularly by the Calvinists.
This divided Catholics into two camps.
The majority of Catholic theologians proceed with the doctrine that the children's limbo is a state of perfect natural happiness.
Some compromise with the Augustine position.
Advocates of this view argue that the Fall must have wounded nature to some degree. Some loss must been incurred. Some rights must have been lost-such as the right to perfect felicity.- However this implies no pain and no and no spiritual anguish for the loss of the beatific vision.
The key issue in dispute is the contention whether, in the state of limbo,the unbaptized child's condition is just the same as it would have been if God had not established the present supernatural order.
None of these positions were officially proclaimed by the Magisterium
All this basically was overshadowed when Pope Benedict XVI was presented with Vatican studies that said there were 'serious' grounds that such souls could go to heaven, rather than exist between heaven and hell as they have done for almost 800 years."
The Pope authorized the Roman Catholic Church's International Theological Commission on April 22, 2007 to publish a 41-page document titled: "The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die without Being Baptized."
Uh HUH. Just as I thought ...The proclamation of pious fools.

Pearsall, Australia

#492100 Nov 15, 2013
is that friendly say wog..
wog and fog
see deference

o moj boze=bodge is cambodge
see symbol comebodge and maglaj
buthan and mongolia

be very carefull

did you ever see stog=from slama s$lama see on map
chine and mongol
1573 matia gubec see pesant revolution

my mind is not yours
thanks god i am good thinker

love your god with mind and heart

mistake put hand over me
jesi donio mach

every words from me is as sword
jeli tvoja baka ima bradavicu na nosu
ima ima baba pera oh
stara se pera nije udavala isla u crkvu snt R.oko
govorila je
jos imamo tebe capnit
i gotovo
e necesh
e hocu
e necesh
e hocu
e necesh
i nije
ko je vidija pit vino iz drvene bukare
jesus i misusovo
govorila je ona
na cug otisla bi cijela bukara 1 liter
then..she fly whats so ever


Leesburg, GA

#492101 Nov 15, 2013
I feel I sinned at birth by not wanting to be born, and till I was thirtysome, still felt that preborn comfort in my jaw,

since then they say 'borderline personality',

maybe Hermi has a thought?

Pearsall, Australia

#492102 Nov 15, 2013
pray against fog

see words wog

Who is strange in my Father house?

Leesburg, GA

#492103 Nov 15, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>old man, if I ever say something that isn't true call me on it, if not Shut up.
I call you out lol,

Does belief in Jesus SAVE COMPLETLY, yes or no.

Pearsall, Australia

#492104 Nov 15, 2013

see flower mendjusica=eargarment too

i told you before
about house on store
dress then proply
then i say
i can't dance
why cocky dance
i say to you
don't be decived
then i say
look a roof who stay on roof

its tradition that people cover up head with hat both woman and man in past tradition
its words of wisdom
its wrong take hat from man head
not from oldest man
who do that
not worthy honor

i say to you
ones more
what ever you try restore
you try hide
but generaly looking
good seed and very bad seed
every general have seed as symbol over neck and hand
=they tell you sin or error going from mouth
i say to you food going into mouth..
with food your restore power of your body and wealth
i say to you
some is air water food medicine and so on..
i listen my priest when he say
sin go from mouth
ye ye ye

error sickness and everything going into body

Jesus say what is in my father house..mecentile
trade people this or that

i say to you
pay attention
where ever wisdom is
respect your oldest mothers fathers grandmothers grandfathers and teachers of wisdom

don't be false witness
not to wish what is not belong to you

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492105 Nov 15, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
I call you out lol,
Does belief in Jesus SAVE COMPLETLY, yes or no.
call someone out means that they are wrong. care to elaborate in when I am wrong on a subject. just because you think that you know more than I do about salvation doesn't mean that YOU DO.

now go fire up your bong and take another toke.

even tho a person may get saved, it doesn't mean that they will be Saved in the Long Run. for instance the Word of God says this.

“He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” Revelation 3:5

when a person is saved their name is written in that Book of Life, therefore if a person backslides(in your case, I sincerely doubt that you were ever saved or you wouldn't be smoking that devil weed), that name is taken out of the Book of Life and they are Lost. Jesus says that not Preston or GIF, Jesus.

you are even dumber than clay, you ought to know better, he doesn't.

Pearsall, Australia

#492106 Nov 16, 2013

Pearsall, Australia

#492107 Nov 16, 2013
Why abraham need blessing?

i say to you
all angels and demons will fall
you say that indirectly

i say to you
from 3 o'clock toward mornig
i hear melodic man voice
thousand thousand thousand thousand

from 3 oclock toward 6 o'clock in morning constantly

i say to you
everything will past my words not..
act 3;25
Did you accuse abuse rest and judge prophets?

Why Abraham need blessing?

Pearsall, Australia

#492108 Nov 16, 2013
psalm 63
Who seek my life must died!

Pearsall, Australia

#492109 Nov 16, 2013
when you pray
pray front of Cross I'N'RI
god will revile
your enemy

Pearsall, Australia

#492110 Nov 16, 2013
pray front front of Cross INRI

trough your prayers offer your suffering on Cross INRI

-my lags hand body mind
is been there
who not forgot tears

humble and nice lips and nice suits are nothing

there is a not law
there is a not Mercy
there is a suffering

Where is there hunbri lihri or something else?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492111 Nov 16, 2013
Saturday, February 24, 2007
Can Your Name Be Blotted Out?
“He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” Revelation 3:5
Can you be lost after you have been saved? Can your name be blotted out of the book of life? Yes.
Jesus spoke to the church in Sardis that to those who “overcometh”, their names would not be blotted out of the book of life.
First of all, what is the book of life? It is a book that is in heaven where all the names of the redeemed, or those who have been saved from sin by Jesus Christ. Revelation 12 through 15 reads the following:“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” From that, it is very apparent that your name will have to be written in the book of life in order to make it into heaven.
If the name is in there, it can also be blotted out, which simply means no longer there. Revelation 3:5 which is given above signifies this can happen. Moses knew it was possible when he prayed the following in Exodus 32:31 and 32,“Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin—; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.” God’s answer was the following in verse 33:“33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.” So now we know that Moses, God, Christ, and the Apostle John who wrote the book of Revelation knew that names could be removed, or blotted out of the book of life. From these scriptures, we learn that when a name is blotted out of the book of life, a soul is damned and headed for hell unless there is repentance. This is not popular doctrine but is correct and biblical. Yet millions of people are taught that all they have to do is pray a simple prayer, get baptized and they’re in for life no matter what. I’m sorry but that’s a lie from hell!
Let’s look at John 10:27-28.“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck Christ’s sheep out of his hand. That’s right, no one can cause you to lose your soul. However, there is also a condition and it’s found in verse 27 and that is that they hear his voice and they follow him.
Lets look at another popular scripture.“For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39 This is true, none of these things listed here can separate us from God’s love. Isn’t that wonderful! But we also have to point out that it doesn’t say sin or transgression anywhere.
Just because you or I can’t give a perfect intellectual answer when someone is cut off from God’s presence doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, because it does. In Romans 11:22 Paul says the following,“Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” Do you see the word “if” that I underlined. The verses speak for themselves.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492112 Nov 16, 2013
more from this Holiness Preacher.

Here’s another one.“¶ I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.” Here, in John 15:1-2, Jesus is plainly saying that every branch in him that doesn’t bear fruit will be cut off. Notice that these branches are a part of Him but can be cut off. He gets more plain in verse 6.“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” In included verse 5 so that this couldn’t be taken out of context. He’s talking, all throughout this entire passage, to his disciples and then to his church.

There are many other scriptures that can be brought out but I try not to make these blogs too long. Please don’t feel that I’m trying to make anyone angry but I am burdened and distressed when I talk to people who feel they are saved but are not living according to God’s Word(WOW!!! HE COULD BE SPEAKING about you Marge and your pot smoking). Many have no real knowledge of the Scriptures and are not taught much either. We want to see souls saved and not lost to the devil through his lies.

Since: Jan 08

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#492113 Nov 16, 2013
call me out Marge?

you call filthy speaking people like Orville ,Brother.

that shows where your love and your faith is.almost the end of the year, you had better call your drug dealer and get you another years supply of the devil weed that you like so much

“Pass the sunscreen”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#492114 Nov 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you afraid to be friendly to an evil heretic???
It looks good on my resume.

I tried posting on your thread on the main forum but someone keeps rejecting my posts.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492115 Nov 16, 2013

Anonymous said...
I agree with you brother. It is a terrible thing that so many christians are taught that dangerous "fact" that you can't lose your salvation. It's true you can't LOSE it but you can choose to leave God and return to your former way of living which the Bible says in that case it would have been better for you to have not known the way in the first place than to have known the way, then turn your back on God and return to a worldly state. I've tried to tell people about that verse that says you can have your name blooted out of the book of life, even my own pastor. but they do not have (spiritual) eyes to see.
11:40 AM

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6:31 AM

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2:00 PM

Anonymous said...
What are you trusting in to be saved. Are you trusting in Christ? If you are trusting in Him for salvation, why can you not trust in Him to keep your salvation. If he cannot keep you saved, than who says he can save you at all. What is redemption, justification, propitiation, eternal life,adoption, everlasting life? You neglect all of these doctrines. Is it possible you have come across something you do not completely understand? God does not lie, He is not the author of confusion, and He is not willing that any should perish. So, why would he tell us we have eternal life, if in fact we do not have eternal life.
5:59 AM

Roger Purdy, Sr. said...
I have all the faith that Christ will keep me. That is not a problem. He said he'd never leave or forsake us. The problem is with us, mankind. We were given a freewill nature as exhibited in the Garden of Eden and while God was able to keep man there, man couldn't keep himself due to his disobedience. The same with salvation and following Christ. The doctrines you mentioned are all wonderful doctrines and I'm aware of each, but when God blots a name out of the book of life as mentioned above, he does it because man has gone to far into sin to be one of his, and that can only be fully determined between Christ and man because we know we can come freely to him for forgivness. That's why he told the church in Philidelphia, "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." Revelation 3:11 Again, he also gave the condition th the following promise in John 10:28, " And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." it is in the preceeding verse 27, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" So, if we follow him, he CAN AND WILL keep us. It's up to us!
3:51 PM

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#492116 Nov 16, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
Saturday, February 24, 2007
Can Your Name Be Blotted Out?
“He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” Revelation 3:5

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#492117 Nov 16, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
good eating if you can handle it

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#492118 Nov 16, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>good eating if you can handle it
I try never to eat from a can, goofy.

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