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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599386 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Dec 11

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#491384 Nov 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The fact that male theologians always wrote of male saviors ought to put red flags up in all people that are willing to ask questions of the theologies.
Where are the female saviors??? WHERE??? And why can't the creator just as easily be female, as male???
Mythical JUNK!!!
The female savior elves are hard at work in the Falsehoof Factory in your head, you "Antidentite"
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#491385 Nov 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The fact that male theologians always wrote of male saviors ought to put red flags up in all people that are willing to ask questions of the theologies.
Where are the female saviors??? WHERE??? And why can't the creator just as easily be female, as male???
Mythical JUNK!!!
I am sure the local priest/bishops love the old ladies who run the bake sales and run errands for the priests etc. but I believe deep down inside the catholic clergy from the bottom to the top are women haters. I can't believe for a minute that any God would put men above women and claim women need not apply.

What red blooded man would live a singular life of loneliness, with no desires of a woman in his life, with ONLY the same expectation of getting to heaven just the same as anyone else?

....makes no common sense!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491386 Nov 13, 2013
I suggest this woman takes first prize for religious idiocy.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#491387 Nov 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
(44) Jesus says:
(1) "Whoever blasphemes against the Father, it will be forgiven him.
(2) And whoever blasphemes against the Son, it will be forgiven him.
(3) But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither on earth nor in heaven."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
CC will be forgiven if she chooses to believe these words.
That having been said, the depiction of "trinity" as it is presented can not exist in the equal measure of "one" by any standard...as the importance of defamation of one of the "parts" is unequally weighted in proportion to the other two of supposed equal parts to represent a balanced dynamic [of] "one".

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#491388 Nov 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.
and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.
1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut,“the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.
These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
Whooooa!! Good one!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#491389 Nov 13, 2013
who="Michael"
.....There is not a single contemporary historical mention of Jesus, not by Romans or by Jews, not by believers or by unbelievers, not during his entire lifetime. This does not disprove his existence, but it certainly casts great doubt on the historicity of a man who was supposedly widely known to have made a great impact on the world. Someone should have noticed.

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How many libraries or books would the Romans have saved when they burned Jerusalem in 70 A.D.?

How many libraries or books were burned by Islam jihadists in their rampages?

How many such writings were burned by those who hate Christianity?

It seems that even you would help to burn them if you could...

But the Bible STANDS...

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491390 Nov 13, 2013
After many centuries of anti-Semitic preaching by popes that the Jews were vile Christ-killers, some of the popes started trying change the trend. But the hatred of Jews by Christians had been so engrained into the psyches of the Christians, in many Christians it exists to this day.
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Sicut Judaeis (Latin: "As the Jews") was a papal bull setting out the official position of the papacy regarding the treatment of Jews.

The first bull was issued in about 1120 by Calixtus II and was intended to protect Jews. It was prompted by the First Crusade, during which over five thousand Jews were slaughtered in Europe. The words sicut Judaeis ("and thus to the Jews") were first used by Pope Gregory I (590-604) in a letter addressed to the Bishop of Naples. Even then the Pope emphasized that Jews were entitled to "enjoy their lawful liberty."[1]

The bull was reaffirmed by many popes including Alexander III, Celestine III (1191-1198), Innocent III (1199), Honorius III (1216), Gregory IX (1235), Innocent IV (1246), Alexander IV (1255), Urban IV (1262), Gregory X (1272 & 1274), Nicholas III, Martin IV (1281), Honorius IV (1285-1287), Nicholas IV (1288-92), Clement VI (1348), Urban V (1365), Boniface IX (1389), Martin V (1422), and Nicholas V (1447).[2][3]

The bull forbade Christians, on pain of excommunication, from forcing Jews to convert, from harming them, from taking their property, from disturbing the celebration of their festivals, and from interfering with their cemeteries.

The bull of 1120 was not the first papal expression against the mistreatment of Jews. In 1065, for example, Pope Alexander II wrote to Béranger, Viscount of Narbonne, and to Guifred, bishop of the city, praising them for having prevented the massacre of the Jews in their district, and reminding them that God does not approve of the shedding of blood. In 1065 also, Alexander admonished Landulf VI of Benevento "that the conversion of Jews is not to be obtained by force."[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

Since: Jun 10

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#491391 Nov 13, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you dug yourself a hole. You better scramble to find a fundie website that gives an un factual account on the Biblical canon. Then you will be justified as you stand before God.
Why isn't Sirach and Tobit Scriptural?
Because the Jews said so? Nope. Not all Jews.
Besides, the Jews said that Revelation and Matthew and Timothy aren't Scriptural either. Do you believe them?
Face it. You have no clue how and why you have a Bible book in your hand. You don't know how it developed over time (the bible wasn't created out of the sky, it developed!)
"All scripture is inspired"
Paul was speaking of the OT Books. THOSE were the only scriptures the Apostles used then. AND Paul was speaking about Sirach, Tobit and Maccabees 1 & 2.
nowhere in the Bible does it a list of scriptural books either. This fact requires the fundie to force ignorance upon themselves.
All:
1. Being or representing the entire or total number, amount, or quantity: All the windows are open. Deal all the cards.
2. Constituting, being, or representing the total extent or the whole: all Christendom.
3. Being the utmost possible of: argued the case in all seriousness.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491392 Nov 13, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure the local priest/bishops love the old ladies who run the bake sales and run errands for the priests etc. but I believe deep down inside the catholic clergy from the bottom to the top are women haters. I can't believe for a minute that any God would put men above women and claim women need not apply.
What red blooded man would live a singular life of loneliness, with no desires of a woman in his life, with ONLY the same expectation of getting to heaven just the same as anyone else?
....makes no common sense!
Arrogance does strange things to human psyches.

I suggest that non-human animals don't suffer from such a blight. Non-human animals just love positive attention, no matter what human or animal source it stems from.

Humans in religion want and demand attention from imaginary gods, and if they believe that is threatened ... watch for trouble ... as the blood of victims will be sure to follow.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#491393 Nov 13, 2013
who="ReginaM" <quoted text>
Unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jn 3:5 In Christendom that is baptism, always has been, always will be (that is until a few years ago upon the advent of evangelical fundamentalism).
Now give chapter and verse where God excepts children from this command and says they will go directly to heaven upon their death.
The Church teaches that unbaptized infants and children are left to the mercy of God. We do not presume to speak for Him, nor do we presume upon His mercy. We place our hope in an all loving and merciful God, of course. But it's up to Him, not us.

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You say that you trust them to God's mercy, but continue to say that children are not excepted from (your idea of) baptism.

Born of water and of Spirit: Every child is 'born of water' when it is born. When it is born 'again' OF THE SPIRIT, it is ready to publicly testify to that new life by water baptism.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491394 Nov 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
But the Bible STANDS...
KayMarie
It stands for bloodshed and vicious brutality of the most horrendous nature.

But as you are sure a Jew loves you ... you will in all probability continue on your deep-rutted journey of self-delusion ... until you choose to awaken to see the issue in a new light.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#491395 Nov 13, 2013
who="ReginaM" <quoted text>
Not at all. We are bound by God's commands and sacraments...He is not. We hope in His mercy, but apparently you don't since you "see that unbaptized babies will not see heaven period."
See how dangerous it is to cherry-pick and take sentences and phrases out of context? How much more dangerous when you do it with scripture!
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The 'unbaptized babies' was YOUR quote, not mine.
KayMarie

Since: Jun 10

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#491396 Nov 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Ox,
Some want the blood but not the water?
Why?
Luke 4:27
27 And there were many in Israel with leprosy in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed—only Naaman the Syrian.”
Naaman was offered cleansing from leprosy (God’s offering of His grace.)
Naaman wanted the cleaner waters that was nearby.
Only when Naaman submitted himself to God’s wishes was the cleansing down.
Naaman did not merit the cleansing but HE HAD TO DO something to receive the promise.
Naaman SUBMITTED and received the promise.
So???? How does that affect the price of wool in Australia????

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491397 Nov 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh - so you think "God" likes to kill hundreds of thousands of people?.....and.....doesn't do anything to stop it.
Gotcha.
In order to debate theology, I must go into the theology.

I am an Atheist. I suggest you get that straight and stop being so silly!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491398 Nov 13, 2013
A woman of the Protestant faith once stated to me in the most threatening manner ... "NOBODY GETS BETWEEN ME AND 'MY' GOD!!!"

That's Christian LOVE in action!!!

I knew if I didn't back off from the conversation, I might find my self in the hospital.
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#491399 Nov 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="ReginaM" <quoted text>
Unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jn 3:5 In Christendom that is baptism, always has been, always will be (that is until a few years ago upon the advent of evangelical fundamentalism).
Now give chapter and verse where God excepts children from this command and says they will go directly to heaven upon their death.
The Church teaches that unbaptized infants and children are left to the mercy of God. We do not presume to speak for Him, nor do we presume upon His mercy. We place our hope in an all loving and merciful God, of course. But it's up to Him, not us.
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You say that you trust them to God's mercy, but continue to say that children are not excepted from (your idea of) baptism.
Born of water and of Spirit: Every child is 'born of water' when it is born. When it is born 'again' OF THE SPIRIT, it is ready to publicly testify to that new life by water baptism.
KayMarie
Hmm, it appears you've read my reply but are not answering my request (why is that, I wonder?):

Cite chapter and verse where children are "excepted" from Christ's command to be born of water and the spirit (Baptism according to all of Christendom until a few years ago when protestant evangelical fundamentalists changed it to your description above), and that they will go straight to heaven. Pretty please, Kay.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#491400 Nov 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh - so you think "God" likes to kill hundreds of thousands of people?.....and.....doesn't do anything to stop it.
Gotcha.
I will agree that the the cycles we see today, more than likely were cylces in the environment from previous eras.
You'll have to supply some sort of support to think it was "God".
Just because some guy wrote his opinion on the subject, doesn't make it true.
Unless you truly do believe men.
Do you?
No, I've done enough research to know that damn near everything has to be verified. When it comes to God, this is my own belief that He/It exists. I just REFUSE to believe that everything came into existence all by itself without an intelligent entity to set the boundaries of physics in perfect order from the hugest galaxies to the tiniest cell in a plant. And also, should I trust man when he tells me that there is no power above his own intellect?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491401 Nov 13, 2013
Angry Christian ... "When I state that Jesus loves me ... I MEAN IT!!!"

Frightened other ... "Okay ... have it your way. I'm out of here."
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#491402 Nov 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="ReginaM" <quoted text>
Not at all. We are bound by God's commands and sacraments...He is not. We hope in His mercy, but apparently you don't since you "see that unbaptized babies will not see heaven period."
See how dangerous it is to cherry-pick and take sentences and phrases out of context? How much more dangerous when you do it with scripture!
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The 'unbaptized babies' was YOUR quote, not mine.
KayMarie
Playing word games now? That's intellectually dishonest, Kay. You quoted me (out of context), and used it to claim that I said something which I didn't. That's also dishonest.

Why don't you just cite chapter and verse where Christ excepted anyone from His command and said they will go directly to heaven upon death as all of you have been claiming.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#491403 Nov 13, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>The systems of Earth are fixed, in my opinion by God. Everything in weather happens according to a pattern set from the beginning of the planet. Some areas are more prone to incur the more dangerous wraths of weather and weather does not discriminate. A typhoon can't help that people live in the path. The ocean needs to be cleaned whether it's someone on the beach or not. And hurricanes have hit the Americas since before there were inhabitants. These things are not gonna stop happening because they are part of a designed system. Man just have to prepare and deal with them.
The systems of "earth" are not "fixed". They are affected by many influences...terrestrial and extra terrestrial...even events occurring without our solar system have caused devastation and earth changing events. That is established conclusive fact...so please stop preaching "design" as it is an "untruth".

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