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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 673303 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

Leesburg, GA

#491194 Nov 12, 2013
Liam wrote:
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I presume you have the books of Sirach, Maccabees 1&2, and Tobit in your Books? No, why?
http://www.gotquestions.org/canonicity-script...
Liam

Chicago, IL

#491195 Nov 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
There is no question in my mind that the ex-Jew Catholics aimed to kill all the Jews that were faithful to Judaism, in order to make the Catholic religion "UNIVERSAL" in the sense of ruling over all other people of the world.
Catholics were and still are anti-Semitic, and the new testament was created FOR anti-Semitic purposes ... which were anything BUT divine.
You should go make an omlet for your husband.
:-) you'd be surprised what a nice omlet can do for a relationship.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#491196 Nov 12, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
He's gotta know that by now. There is no way this man Confrint, would not know that he just told a lie. I don't get how these people function. I bet he's been corrected a half dozen times on indulgences in the last year.
He doesn't give a rat's behind that he's lying and spreading false witness. He's a bitter old whitewashed tomb.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#491198 Nov 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
you have no proof o a place called purgatory...
what Benny Hinn does is witnessed by thousands
those your priest bilk $ from have nothing but your word..
no one has given any witness to it ever...and it is not found in the Bible
like most of you conjecture it is assumed into the word of God...
If it is not to make $$$ why is it conjured up?
Benny Hinn is worth $42 million. Give me an example of a priest collecting money for indulgences (other than your hearsay).

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#491199 Nov 12, 2013
who="Liam" <quoted text>
Let me get this straight: you're a self ordained minister. You thought somethin about another group of people that turned out to be false; you ignore the truth you learned and continue on smearing them with a lie? What are you going to say to Jesus when you meet him?

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He is licensed by an International organization.
KM
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#491200 Nov 12, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Posted this Sunday ..this,morning and,now,
To the Catholics here,..I realize that what I believe does,not matter
Except to me and my Lord
. In reflection..I think your,CHURCH today...would,NOT be the,bastion of faith it is,to you ..if NOT for the,Reformation ...And,the,wide,distribution of God's,word ever since . In other words,I think it was a,good thing for All of us,.BUT I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T SEE IT .
I apologize,...as,sometime I am wrong in trying to make,a,point I want you to see,. Maybe it's because,as,a,child I believed in blind faith in the wonderful nuns,who helped raise me .. And yet learning many things,about the,Church itself ..IN THE PAST ..was,disillusionment.for me . And then discovering the changes,since I was a child on such things,as evolution...shook.me badly ..
HOWEVER ....in the long run..WHAT I FEEL is NOT important ..except between God,and myself .. So I apologize for any anger and,dissonance on my part .
I believe ..GOD WILL sort out our differences,in worship . He knows each heart and,soul here ..
Nicks,post about FALLING IN LOVE WITH OUR LORD ..was,spot on the subject of Christianiy
Those who.met Jesus,in person ...And who meet Him.in their hearts today ..FALL IN LOVE eith the Son of God ..our Lord Jesus, GOD BLESS US,ALL IN CHRIST
And may God bless you too.
LTM

Terrace Bay, Canada

#491201 Nov 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe that without Christianity, the creator of the Native Indians would have rejected the Native Indians?
You are indeed a very arrogant Christian.
THE CREATOR REJECTS NO ONE, GOD WILL RECIEVE ALL WHO COME TO HIM.
People reject the creator, people like yourself.
Your are very arrogant, being wise in your own eyes you have become a fool.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491202 Nov 12, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
What's wrong? nobody is reading and responding to your posts anymore?
When did you start believing that you are a "nobody???"

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491203 Nov 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
THE CREATOR REJECTS NO ONE, GOD WILL RECIEVE ALL WHO COME TO HIM.
That's really, really good news. And that does away with all those nasty hells in so many, many religions.

:)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#491204 Nov 12, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
And may God bless you too.
Thanks,.

I've prayed,long and hard,on this,.

As,with Jesus in His,time ..what we,do today in our lives..our
CHURCHES...counts more in OUR lives than what has been done in the past...especially centuries ago ...

I BELUEVE all who love JESUS in the future..May have to prove their love in wAys we cannot fathom.

And those who hate us FIR that love ...hate us all..

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#491205 Nov 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
Communion to Divorced-Remarried Catholics: The CDF Says No (8808)
NEWS ANALYSIS
by ANDREA GAGLIARDUCCI 10/25/2013 Comments (92)
Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
– Catholic News Agency
That Pope Francis is not going to change the discipline that denies Communion to
divorced-remarried people is established by the long article Archbishop Gerhard
Ludwig Müller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, drafted for the Vatican daily newspaper L’Osservatore Romano.
In the article, published on Oct. 22, Archbishop Müller reiterates that a Christian marriage is indissoluble and that this is not simply a pastoral question, but a doctrinal issue that involves the Church’s theological understanding of the sacrament of marriage.
There are also other key passages. Archbishop Müller stated that the Orthodox practice of allowing second or third marriages under certain circumstances “cannot be reconciled with God’s will.” He rejected that the individual conscience can be the final arbiter on whether a divorced and civily remarried Catholic can receive Communion. And responding to the argument that Christian mercy mandates allowing such Catholics reception of Communion, he asserted that “an objectively false appeal to mercy also runs the risk of trivializing the image of God by implying that God cannot do other than forgive.”
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/communio...
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Since we brought the Orthodox into it:

In 1992 the Apostolic Signatura stated their tribunals are giving too many declarations of nullity on psychological grounds

The American divorce mentality has spread to a Catholic American annulment mentality

Annulments are not Divorces- A decree of nullity from the Church is a recognition, based on the evidence given, that A MARRIAGE in the Catholic and Biblical sense of the word NEVER EXISTED.

Hence, since a person has not in fact been joined by God they are free to marry in the future. In such a case a person does not violate our Lord’s declaration that one who divorces their spouse and marries another commits adultery (cf Matt 19:9).

See, for the Catholics its about the rule. That's the reason for all the contradictions and double speak.

For the Orthodox it is about the Spirit within the laws. The law is there, but it is about coming closer to God spiritually.

THE MARRIAGE NEVER EXISTED.!!!!!!

The Church says something. Then they say something different. But it really isn't different. Its a deeper truth of the same thing. Or it was misunderstood. Or it was in this category or that category of rule so it wasn't firm. etc etc etc

The Orthodox church sees divorce as a tragedy. Yet the Orthodox are not afraid of Truth or Reality. The Orthodox Church says the marriage did happen. The marriage itself is a church and must include Christ.

If the marriage cannot be reconciled after counseling and there is sincerity, it may have been harmful spiritually to the divorced person to remain in the marriage.

The Orthodox Church proposes that the unity of the married couple cannot be kept through juridical obligation alone. There must be real unity. Spiritual unity. It must be like an internal symphony.

After spiritual examination, prayer, and counseling, when one cannot salvage anything of this symphony,“then the bond that was originally considered indissoluble is already dissolved and the law can offer nothing to replace grace and can neither heal nor resurrect, nor say:‘stand up and go’”.[23]

The church is concerned that there are instances in which may even lead to loss of the soul.

Chrysostom says “better to break the covenant than to lose one’s soul”.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#491206 Nov 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
Communion to Divorced-Remarried Catholics: The CDF Says No (8808)
NEWS ANALYSIS
by ANDREA GAGLIARDUCCI 10/25/2013 Comments (92)
Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
– Catholic News Agency
That Pope Francis is not going to change the discipline that denies Communion to
divorced-remarried people is established by the long article Archbishop Gerhard
Ludwig Müller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, drafted for the Vatican daily newspaper L’Osservatore Romano.
In the article, published on Oct. 22, Archbishop Müller reiterates that a Christian marriage is indissoluble and that this is not simply a pastoral question, but a doctrinal issue that involves the Church’s theological understanding of the sacrament of marriage.
There are also other key passages. Archbishop Müller stated that the Orthodox practice of allowing second or third marriages under certain circumstances “cannot be reconciled with God’s will.” He rejected that the individual conscience can be the final arbiter on whether a divorced and civily remarried Catholic can receive Communion. And responding to the argument that Christian mercy mandates allowing such Catholics reception of Communion, he asserted that “an objectively false appeal to mercy also runs the risk of trivializing the image of God by implying that God cannot do other than forgive.”
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/communio ...
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Since we brought the Orthodox into it:

A Blog for Dallas Area Catholics
Dean of Roman Rota – reform Canon 1095!

CANON 1095 (1983) IS THE PART OF CANON LAW LIKELY EGREGIOUSLY ABUSED BY MANY, PRIMARILY AMERICAN, MARRIAGE TRIBUNALS TO GRANT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANNULMENTS A YEAR. The Code of Canon Law released in 1983 radically liberalized the grounds for granting annulments by adding a pseudo-psychological provision. The Dean of the Roman Rota, the supreme marriage tribunal of the Church, asks that it be reformed:

Speaking at a conference in Rome, the dean of the Roman Rota suggested the need for a more rigorous interpretation of a provision in canon law that is cited in many annulment cases.
POLISH BISHOP ANTONI STANKIEWICZ, DEAN OF THE ROMAN ROTA, THE VATICAN COURT THAT HANDLES MOST MARRIAGE CASES ANTONI STANKIEWICZ SAID THAT THE CURRENT READING OF CANON 1095 (1983) WOULD SUGGEST THAT “IT’S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET MARRIED, IN VIEW OF THE CURRENT CULTURAL SITUATION.” CANON 1095 STIPULATES THAT A VALID MARRIAGE MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF “CAUSES OF A PSYCHOLOGICAL NATURE

EVEN COUPLES MARRIED FOR DECADES WHO RAISED CHILDREN AND WERE PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WHO EXHIBITED LITTLE OR NO DISCORD, CAN GET ANNULMENTS WHEN ONE OR BOTH PARTIES BECOME DISSATISFIED AND FILE FOR DIVORCE.

IT MAKES IT SO THAT, INSTEAD OF MARRIAGE BEING INDISSOLUBLE, IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE AN INDISSOLUBLE MARRIAGE.

All marriages have rocky periods or one or both partners with some psychological shortcoming.

Thus, no marriage is really valid, with the way the law is interpreted now

Some Church tribunals—particularly in the US—have interpreted that canon liberally to mean that a marriage can be annulled if the parties show any signs of psychological problems

NOTING THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE ENTIRELY FREE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS, POLISH BISHOP ANTONI STANKIEWICZ, DEAN OF THE ROMAN ROTA, THE VATICAN COURT THAT HANDLES MOST MARRIAGE CASES

STANKIEWICZ SUGGESTED THAT THE CANON SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD TO REFER TO PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM GIVING PROPER CONSENT IN A MARITAL VOW.

Based on their use of psychological problems like immaturity, depression, mania, etc., as grounds for divorce, it can and has been argued that EVERYONE with those problems is not validly married. SUCH LIBERAL INTERPRETATIONS HAVE, THUS, MADE A MOCKERY OF THE SACRAMENT.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491207 Nov 12, 2013
The good new is that Jehovah won't shut anybody out of his kingdom for lack of belief in Jesus ... as even Jehovah doesn't believe in the existence of Jesus.

Isn't that wonderful news???

We can all go straight to Jehovah for our blessings and curses and in turn he will dish them out in equal portions to all.

:)
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#491208 Nov 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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That's really, really good news. And that does away with all those nasty hells in so many, many religions.
:)
Hey June.
You really blowed my mind when you said you was past your 70's.

I've kind of lost my zeal for topix now.

It makes you really think of all the time I've wasted on here.

I sure don't want to look around years from now all alone with just a few marbles rolling around in my head fussing at God.

I think I'm gana be sick.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491209 Nov 12, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted Chrysostom says “better to break the covenant than to lose one’s soul”.
You are still peddling Catholic Chrysostom junk are you???

The fact that he was a vile and despicable anti-Semitist seems to please you ... and that is not a surprise to me.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Meanwhile, I ask you to rescue your brothers, to set them free from their error and bring them back to the truth. What I said was not for your sakes but for the sake of those who are sick. I want them to free themselves from their wicked association with the Jews. I want them to show themselves sincere and genuine Christians. I want them to shun the evil gatherings of the Jews and their synagogues, both in the city and in the suburbs, because these are robbers’ dens and dwellings of demons…

John Chrystostom

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491210 Nov 12, 2013
The Catholics with the mindsets of John Chrysostom, compiled all the data in the new testament.

Jehovah (within the theology) was dead set against the Catholic nonsense that he sent a son to earth to betray his own Jewish wishes.

But the ex-Jew Catholics paid no heed to the theology of the Jews, as they slandered, tortured and murdered the Jews at every turn of the pages in the new testament.

The faithful Jews were NOT Christ-killers, as there was no Jesus TO kill.

That fictitious story was created by the ex-Jew traitors-to-Judaism Catholics ... period!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491212 Nov 12, 2013
Catholics perceived that the Jews were their enemies, simply because the Jews would not believe that the Jesus-story was at all believable.

Jews that lived in that era KNEW that no man named Jesus wrote in his own name, or preached in his own name or was followed by any Jews whatsoever.

The Catholics were hate-filled murderers of Jews ... period!

Hitler as a young Catholic learned his lessons from those such as John Chrysostom.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#491213 Nov 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You are still peddling Catholic Chrysostom junk are you???
The fact that he was a vile and despicable anti-Semitist seems to please you ... and that is not a surprise to me.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
Meanwhile, I ask you to rescue your brothers, to set them free from their error and bring them back to the truth. What I said was not for your sakes but for the sake of those who are sick. I want them to free themselves from their wicked association with the Jews. I want them to show themselves sincere and genuine Christians. I want them to shun the evil gatherings of the Jews and their synagogues, both in the city and in the suburbs, because these are robbers’ dens and dwellings of demons…
John Chrystostom
You are displaying your in depth knowledge of John Chrysostom. By the way.A small detail. He was not Catholic. He is Orthodox.Go ahead and share more of your knowledge.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491214 Nov 12, 2013
Isaiah called the Jews dogs and Jeremiah called them mare-mad horses. This was not because they suddenly changed natures with those beasts but because they pursued the lustful habits of those animals…The martyrs–having poured out their own blood for him whom the Jews had slain–have a special hatred for the Jews since the Jews crucified Him for whom they have a special love. It was the Jews who said:“His blood be on us and on our children”, so the martyrs would be glad to hear this discourse.

John Chrysostom

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#491215 Nov 12, 2013
Even if Jesus had existed, ONLY those Jew that killed him would have been responsible.

But the Catholics labeled ALL Jews forever more as being Christ killers.

If you can't see that as a horrific injustice ... you don't WANT to see ... and your consciences should be stained by the same blood of innocent Jews that those militant Catholics spilled in the name of holiness.

Shame on religion!!!

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