Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Of course they were WILD. And the strong ones such as the popes, kings, queens and emperors won out in the end, IF they were not disposed of their selves.
Religion always was a war of who had the most military power.
I suggest you keep in mind that in Constantine's era twenty emperors were assassinated in one century.
That is WHY he gave control to the Catholics in the hopes of religion becoming ONE system of belief.
As you can see ... his plan didn't work. The crazies are still at it today ... fighting over who the gods love and who the gods will reject.
I know that Constantine's goal was political- to unite the empire. He knew little theology. The first council would not have been swayed by him anyway. Most had been already tortured under the Diocletian persecution and had not wavered.Christianity was already in effect underground before Constantine.His move to end persecution let it grow exponentially.I still have difficulty with my Church making him a saint.I can express that to my Church and they will accept my freedom of thought. I still am checking your 20 Emperors assassinated statement.

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Jesus is not a myth, goofy; Christ is the myth.
Jesus is a mythical figurine of the new testament.

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Very distinct differences.
Thanks Chess!
No difference at all.

To most Christians, the word Christ and the word Jesus are interchangeable.

Note how this author uses the word "Christ" as meaning Jesus.
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The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

All History ignores Him.

The fact that Christ finds no place in the history of the era in which he lived,—that not one event of his life is recorded by anybody but his own interested and prejudiced biographers,—settles the conclusion, beyond cavil or criticism, that the godlike achievements ascribed to him are naught but fable or fiction.

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Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I still have difficulty with my Church making him a saint.I can express that to my Church and they will accept my freedom of thought.
Back in the day when the popes had all the say, you would have found your self burned at the stake as a heretic.

There was no freedom of thought, unless the thought was aligned to the pope in power. And if you call THAT freedom of thought, I suggest you are wrong.

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Jesus is a mythical figurine of the new testament.
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You are evidently a demonic figure charading as a human being...

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Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
I still am checking your 20 Emperors assassinated statement.
Pardon me. It was a seventy-year period, not a one-hundred-year period.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following.

When Constantine legalized Christianity, he expected it to unify the empire sorely needing unity. Before Diocletian, during a seventy-year period, twenty-three emperors ruled. Of that number twenty were assassinated, one fell battling the Goths, one died a prisoner of the Persians, and one perished from the plague.
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That's fascinating stuff!
If the soul can be murdered, hell is of no use, as the sufferers won't know they are suffering.
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I thought you'd like that one, the soul can suffer on earth. Are you suffering right now? Maybe not since u don't have a soul.

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Except for the reason of deception, why would Catholics take it upon their selves to change a holy name of a supposed savior.

You'll see the lies ... but only when you choose to see them.
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CatholicCulture.Org

I.C.
Jesus -- first and last letters of his name in Greek, Ihcuc.

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/librar ...

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confrinting with the word wrote:
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You are evidently a demonic figure charading as a human being...
Did your Protestant image of a god instruct you to state that ... or was that "rooted" in your "own free will?"

You are funny!

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I thought you'd like that one, the soul can suffer on earth. Are you suffering right now? Maybe not since u don't have a soul.
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I also believe I don't have a Christian soul or a Muslim soul, or any religion's "tagged" soul.

I believe I am a mortal animal ... period.

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Non-human animals suffer excruciating emotional and physical pain, and they did nothing whatsoever to offend any image of a creator.

NOTHING!!!

Religion is BUNK ... and that includes YOUR religion.

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Amazing Grace ... "OH YES ... HALLELUJAH ... PRAISE ye JEHOVAH" ... saved a wretch like me, to in turn believe that I will be set free ... from suffering for eternity ... while other won't be as fortunate as "ME!"

That belief is ... REPULSIVE!
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Some Jews believe that the one god's title is Elohim, while others believe his name is ADONAI, et cetera ... and some even believe that the term G-D must be used as a show of respect.
But if you ask any Jew of the one-god dogma if there are multiple gods, I suggest they will say that it all pertains to one god, as they would never admit to being polytheists.
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Take your pick! Each group of Jews had their own title for their own image of a god. But unlike the Catholics, Muslims and Protestants, the gods at least DID have titles.
Note "The eternal 'one.'"
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Tetragrammaton 1.1 Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh
1.2 Yah
1.3 Adonai
1.4 HaShem
1.5 Adoshem
1.6 YHWH Tzevaot
2 Other names and titles of God in Judaism 2.1 Adonai
2.2 Baali
2.3 El
2.4 Elah
2.5 Eloah
2.6 Elohim
2.7 El Roi
2.8 El Shaddai
2.9 Elyon
2.10 The Eternal One
2.11 Shalom
2.12 Shekhinah
2.13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_ ...
You're confusing titles with gods, goofy. Baal of Peor was BibleGod? Really, goofy?
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Jesus is a mythical figurine of the new testament.
The New Testament no more makes the historical Jesus a myth than the Alexander Romances makes Alexander the Great a myth, silly.

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If a creator exists that in turn created all forms of life ... that means all forms of life ... including humans, had no part in that choice whatsoever.

You can refer to suffering as a gift when YOU suffer. But I suggest that you go too far when you state that suffering is a gift for all other forms of life, that in turn had no part in your religion.

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The New Testament no more makes the historical Jesus a myth than the Alexander Romances makes Alexander the Great a myth, silly.
That is because you place high value ON the new testament ... but only the parts that you personally treasure.

You don't want to admit that Jehovah created evil, as that is no fun for you whatsoever to believe THAT is true.

Silly goose!
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Unfortunately the link is not an established organization and only includes "links" to other "Google" queries:
http://www.americanneopaganism.com/search_caf... PDF&afdToken=CrwBChMI8ZmQ6 qbdugIVC9mECh1qcAA1GAEgAlDPrPY PUKeC9w9Qq6SbEVCmvLURUOC9tRFQ5 rzlEVDCxdwTUObMtBVQhuXoFlDsnK0 pUJ3ili5Q24CzclDw-JSVAVCE--2XA VC7vaqnAVDZvaqnAVC1qKKyAVCxvq_ HAXH2dE8iXCJowYIBEwjgtpPqpt26A hUF6YQKHawrAJKNAYUtJvCRAafVoTb Ycm1hkQEU3eQu0Opk05EB5wWqRLWhw OcSGQCchQJKAAwRiLHUenBCTZrjS_w p15Vmv2c
June does this ever so often.....think she has some supporting information, but in fact, it is really just a ruse to make herself look good.
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I just followed two of her links -- both bad.

But it could just be computer illiteracy.

I found one of the pages at a different URL than she gave.
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I still can't understand how it took her so many decades to speak out against something she states as: "I never believed".
Remember - she's only been a "non-Christian" for only about 4 years, and IMO - appears to be limited in her "Agnostic" view, except for a couple fo books that contain quotes from others.
I have no way of knowing for sure, but I would bet dollars to donuts she was as rabid a believer as she now is an atheist.

In my estimation, it's about being right about whatever she believes at the moment.

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Back in the day when the popes had all the say, you would have found your self burned at the stake as a heretic.
There was no freedom of thought, unless the thought was aligned to the pope in power. And if you call THAT freedom of thought, I suggest you are wrong.
I have had a Pepsi Cola,but never have had a Pope.

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You're confusing titles with gods
:)

By the way ... have you used the proper title for the Jewish god as of LATE???

According to rumors from the sky ... the one and only Abrahamic god claims that he still only loves the Jews, as the Jews stated in the relatively ancient Jewish literature.

How does it feel to be left out in the cold?

Is it more comforting than the thought of burning in hellfire for eternity???

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Now I lay me down to sleep
The sleep of death I will soon reap
And if by chance I shall awake
I wish for peace for all our sakes

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