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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 679024 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#490930 Nov 12, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
oops need to say. NO PERSON IN THE BIBLE EVER RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST BY JUST GETTING WET.
And nobody has rcvd it without.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#490931 Nov 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
Luke 7:29-30
29 (All the people, even the tax collectors, when they heard Jesus’ words, acknowledged that God’s way was right, because they had been baptized by John.
30 But the Pharisees and the experts in the law rejected God’s purpose for themselves, because they had NOT been baptized by John.)
***they HEARD Jesus' words.....
***acknowledge that God's way was right.....
***they had been baptized by John.
***Pharisees and the EXPERTS in the LAW (as Jesus had NOT been crucified yet) REJECTED God's purpose for themselves.....
Why???
Because they had NOT been baptized by John.
*****
Today, as Jesus has already been crucified and His blood has been shed....we are NOW baptized INTO His death, burial and resurrection....
We MUST die to sins....
Look at this verse....
John 8:21
21 Once more Jesus said to them,“I am going away, and you will look for me, and <<<<<you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.”>>>>>
***you will die in your sin.
Result:
Where I go, you CANNOT come.
Why?
because you are remaining in your sins.....
In baptism, WE MUST DIE TO OUR SINS.....
Now, can you be SAVED from your sins BEFORE being baptized???
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!!!
Hank you are saying that Old Testament folks are saved differently than New Testament folks,...correct?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#490932 Nov 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you be saved from your sins BEFORE baptism???
We MUST die to something, Chuck???
What is that something???
Baptism is a BURIAL....
What are we burying, Chuck???
~~~

Water baptism alone does not save a a person fro m their sins...

John was call the Baptist because of he baptized...

Mat 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

Mat 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers,

who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

NOTE....JOHN REQUIRED REPENTANCE AND FRUITS FIRST

Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

NOTE 1.JOHN SPOKE HERE OF HIS BAPTISM..

.2.THEN THE BAPTISM (OF FIRE) THE HOLY GHOST THAT WOULD COME THROUGH JESUS..(WHICH MOST CHURCHES IGNORE/DENY TODAY.)

Mat 3:11 1. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:

but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:

2.he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

THERE IS NO SEQUENCE THAT HAS BEEN SET AS WHEN A PERSON SHOULD BE BAPTIZED IN WATER...ONLY REPENTANCE COMES FIRST ACCORDING TO JESUS

JESUS SAID...MARK WRITES...

Mar_1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH BELIEVES THEY ARE THE KINGDOM OF GOD...AND IT

DOES NOT BELIEVE THE GOSPEL ---SO THAT

EXCLUDES THEM..HERE...

ONE EVEN SAID IT SUCKS...
Michael

Canada

#490933 Nov 12, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, notice how they go after the Real Presence and say Christ is not the Eucharist, the one thing the devil wants us not to believe. Yep, protestants are for gay marriage now, I guess that is why we had to change the word to define marriage to Holy Matrimony. And of course artificial birth control, which is of the devil, look what chaos that caused . Yes the devil has his hands on the protestants alright.
HUH! Are you in a bubble? Are you the bubble boy?

Poll: most Catholics who attend Mass weekly support gay marriage, women priests.
October 7, 2013 By Deacon Greg Kandra

......American Catholics agree 68 – 23 percent, with little difference between more observant and less observant Catholics, with Pope Francis’ recent observation that the Church has become too focused on issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraceptives, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today (October 4).
Support for the Pope’s observation is strong among men, women and all age groups, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

.....American Catholics support same-sex marriage 60 – 31 percent, compared to the 56 – 36 percent support among all U.S. adults.
More devout Catholics, who attend religious services about once a week, support same- sex marriage 53 – 40 percent, while less observant Catholics support it 65 – 26 percent.
Catholic women support same-sex marriage 72 – 22 percent, while Catholic men support it 49 – 40 percent. Support ranges from 46 – 37 percent among Catholics over 65 years old to 64 – 27 percent among Catholics 18 to 49 years old.
Catholics like their new Pope: 36 percent have a “very favorable” opinion of him and 53 percent have a “favorable” opinion, with 4 percent “unfavorable.”

“.....American Catholics liked what they heard when Pope Francis said the Church should stop talking so much about issues like gay marriage, abortion and contraception,” said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

“.....Maybe they were just waiting for a Jesuit. Overwhelmingly, across the demographic board, Catholics – men and women, regular or not-so-regular church-goers, young and old – have a favorable opinion of Pope Francis.”
American Catholics support 60 – 30 percent the ordination of women priests. Those who attend religious services about once a week support women priests 52 – 38 percent, compared to 66 – 25 percent among those who attend services less frequently.
There is almost no gender gap.

....Support for women priests grows with age, from 57 – 32 percent among Catholics 18 to 49 years old to 68 – 28 percent among those over 65 years old.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#490934 Nov 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG...
JESUS SAID
Don't try to flaunt your imaginary Jesus in my face as being based on truth ... you hypocrite.

You won't even worship the supposed ONLY father of your supposed savior.

Ridiculous human animal!!!
Michael

Canada

#490935 Nov 12, 2013
Catholics in greater numbers support gay marriage.

....BY EMILY DERUY - 03/08/2013, 11:41AM / Updated 10/09/2013, 04:14PM
Support for gay marriage has increased in the United States in recent years, and it's actually higher among Catholics than it is among Americans overall.

.....A majority of Catholics, 54 percent, now support gay marriage, compared to 47 percent of all Americans, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.

.....The poll also found that more Hispanics, Catholic or otherwise, support same-sex marriage than any other demographic. Sixty-three percent of self-identified Hispanics are in favor of gay marriage, compared to just 32 percent of blacks and 48 percent of whites.

.....I myself have comment to make regarding this issue. Its personal between two individuals as most catholics today now indicate.

http://fusion.net/modern_life/story/majority-...
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#490936 Nov 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
DEAD to what???
Alive in Christ Jesus....
Dead to sin.

When Christians come to faith in Christ we no longer allow sin to control our lives...we are dead to sin. This does not come from baptism.

How?? by the sacrifice of Christ...repentance and faith.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#490937 Nov 12, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
God's Essence God's Energies God's Will
So you beleive fallible men can define an infallible being?

And to what extant can they, if "we all fall short of God"?
- menaing, we cannot define "God", but for some reason, many gullible people think man can, though limiting "God" in the same token.
Michael

Canada

#490938 Nov 12, 2013
Vast majority of catholic women use or have used birth control the church says is sinful.

....
Most Catholic women use birth control banned by church

BOSTON Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:54pm EDT

....(Reuters)- Some 98 percent of sexually active Catholic women have used contraceptive methods banned by the church, research published on Wednesday showed.

A new report from the Guttmacher Institute, the nonprofit sexual health research organization, shows that only 2 percent of Catholic women, even those who regularly attend church, rely on natural family planning.

The latest data shows practices of Catholic women are in line with women of other religious affiliations and adult American women in general.

"In real-life America, contraceptive use and strong religious beliefs are highly compatible," said the report's lead author Rachel Jones.

She said most sexually active women who do not want to become pregnant practice contraception, and most use highly effective methods like sterilization, the pill, or the intrauterine device (IUD).

"This is true for Evangelicals and Mainline Protestants, and it is true for Catholics, despite the Catholic hierarchy's strenuous opposition to contraception," Jones said.

Nearly 70 percent of Catholic women use sterilization, the birth control pill or an IUD, according to the Guttmacher Institute research.

Is this just more EVIDENCE of a church out of touch with its followers?
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#490939 Nov 12, 2013
Truth wrote:
Romans 6:2
2 By no means!~~~~~We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?~~~~~
***We are THOSE who have DIED to sin....
What have we died to?
SIN!
How can we live in it any longer?
Hank we can debate all day. Bottom line, baptism adds to the sacrifice of Christ at the cross...period.

and you are saying that folks like Abraham are saved differently than Christians today.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#490940 Nov 12, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
right! the story makes no sense.
..... A baby claimed to be the son of God born into a belief system (jewish) that does not believe in sons of God. This baby grows up as the son of God, devoutly practices this non believing sons of God religion, and only a very short time before he dies for being claimed a heretic of his own belief starts an entirely new belief system, leaving all his former fellow believers behind. His NEW religion has no rules and regulations, no formal plan of operation, no people in positions of authority. HUH!
No wonder it took 300 years and Emperor Constantine a sun-worshiping leader huddled with early christian fathers to help create a story about a man who supposedly died 300 years before.
No one word ever mentioned about this God/man during the time he lived, yet the only source of his story written decades after he supposedly died claims he was loved by thousands..........but no one thought him important enough to write about him while he lived.
..........something is wrong!
Christians absolutely refuse to worship the one and only father of the one they consider to be their savior.

Within the theology, if Jehovah is Jesus' father, there IS, nor can there BE, any other GOD!!!

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#490941 Nov 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>

Do you have any ideas how I can satiate my desires???
:)
Join a fight club?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#490942 Nov 12, 2013
The joke of it all is that Catholics and Protestants believe they can teach all people of the world to be perfected Jews, as is Jehovah ... the one and only god that in turn created EVIL.

It seems that ignorance simply can't go beyond it's self.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#490943 Nov 12, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
So you believe that Paul is God.
OK
<quoted text>
Not "God", but more enlightened than Jesus.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#490944 Nov 12, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Repentance and faith in Christ.
Why do you add baptism to the sacrifice of Christ?
We are justified by faith
But it is NOT Faith alone, Chuck.....

Just like it is NOT repentance alone...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#490945 Nov 12, 2013
Michael wrote:
Vast majority of catholic women use or have used birth control the church says is sinful.
From the book “Morgentaler … The doctor who couldn’t turn away … by Eleanor Wright Pelrine, Published 1975 … comes the following ………

The majority of Henry Morgentaler’s patients (over 80 per cent) identify themselves as Roman Catholic, weighing the burden of unplanned, unwanted pregnancy against the dictates of celibate churchmen, and coming to terms with their own consciences.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

From the book “Moments on Maple Avenue … The reality of Abortion, by Louise Kapp
Howe, published in 1984 … comes the following …………….

You know, it’s interesting who protests and who doesn’t. Over 90 percent of the women coming to one of our clinics for abortions are Catholic. They don’t necessarily have more of a problem about what they are doing than others. It seems to be more of a matter of individuals, doesn’t it?”

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#490946 Nov 12, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>They sure are pawns, the devil sure is using them .
Citation please.
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>The devil hates the Catholic Church.

Citation please.

Or in honesty HD, you don't have diddly squat and are just trying to still mislead others.

This is why I left your organization, I couldn't handle all the continuous lying to people by your followers.

This fact alone shows that your church is anything but "true".
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#490947 Nov 12, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hank you are saying that Old Testament folks are saved differently than New Testament folks,...correct?
Could the sacrifice of bulls and goats save anyone from their sins in the Old Covenant?

Could John the Baptist baptism save anyone from their sins?

What does the Word of God say....

Hebrews 9:15

15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—~~~~~now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.~~~~~
Pad

Rockford, IL

#490948 Nov 12, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>My Church was founded by Christ and the first Pope was St. Peter.
Absolutely ridiculous.The Apostle PETER,was never a Pope,he was a disciple of the Lord Jesus,and was given the rank(if you will) of A p o s t l e,which is as far as the Word is concerned,beyond a Pope (Pontificus Maximus).Such a lie that has been perpetrated through Roman Catholic History.One of those things that will be judged and deleted by Christ Himself. It is astounding how so many Catholics are spell-bound by such a fantasy!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#490949 Nov 12, 2013
Beware of those who preach how to live comparable to HOLY gods.

They are shysters that try to hide their humanness inside biblical words.

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