Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
truth

Perth, Australia

#489389 Nov 7, 2013
It is written..what is hide from your eyes and close from your ear.

I say to you many parallel system exist.

Possessors and deceivers are who?!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#489390 Nov 7, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Does the Church of Christ believe the bread and wine are the real presence of Jesus Christ or a symbol?
"Synagogue of Jehovah" would be the respectful terminology.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#489391 Nov 7, 2013
L. Michael White: Professor of Classics and Director of the Religious Studies Program University of Texas at Austin

At what point did Christians start thinking of themselves as separate from Judaism?

The preacher of Antioch and later of Constantinople, John Chrysostom, complains in a series of eight sermons to his congregation, that "you must stop going to the Synagogue, you must not think that the Synagogue is a holier place than our churches are." This clearly indicates that the break between Judaism and Christianity, even as late as the 4th century ... still is not absolute, is not permanent.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
truth

Perth, Australia

#489392 Nov 7, 2013
Who hide?.. possessors and deceivers..they are destroyers not me.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#489393 Nov 7, 2013
Well ... the split between Judaism and Catholicism became permanent when the emperor Constantine gave the Catholics ALL the power over all other religions, including Judaism.

The Jews that would not conform were tortured and murdered.

Religion was and is not based on any semblance of truth. It's based on bullying!

"Do it my way or die." "Do it my way or burn in hell."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#489394 Nov 7, 2013
More bullying!!!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

This group of Jews believed in forced conversion, even of other Jews.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

The Maccabees also spelled Machabees Machabi (Latin) or Machado from Latin (marculatum) that means "Hammer" (Greek/) were a Jewish rebel army that took control of Judea, which had been a client state of the Seleucid Empire. They founded the Hasmonean dynasty, which ruled from 164 BCE to 63 BCE, reasserting the Jewish religion, expanding the boundaries of the Land of Israel, by conquest, which included instances of forced conversion, reducing the influence of Hellenism and Hellenistic Judaism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees
truth

Perth, Australia

#489395 Nov 7, 2013
crime which they set up and produce
accusers prosecutors this or that

not meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it is written

-its exist very low organization many many
-it exist many high organization

they ruin life of good and righteousness people..

by

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#489396 Nov 7, 2013
One of the earliest Christian texts extant is a genuine letter from Paul to the Corinthians. At 1 Corinthians 15:3-5 he writes:
Paul wrote:
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance:

That Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
That he was buried,
That he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and
That he appeared to Peter and then to the Twelve.
This is a kerygma, a programmatic statement of faith. While Paul's letter is genuine -- his effort from around 50 AD -- the words in the above passage are not his. They represent a well-worn statement of faith, something he "received" and merely is repeating.

It is a statement as old -- or nearly so -- as Christianity itself.

Notice this kerygma is devoid of any reference to a virgin birth. A virgin birth was not necessary to the faith of the earliest Christians. Indeed, it was not known to them.

Fast forward to Mark, written around 70 AD. In Mark, a polemic against the Jerusalem Assembly, Jesus' family is antagonistic to him. In Mark 3, for example, the following passage is found:
Mark wrote:
Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said,He is out of his mind.
Odd that, given the annunciation found in Luke 1:
Luke wrote:
Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
So Mary, having been told by an angel of the special mission of her son in Luke 1, thinks her son is nuts when he engages in that mission in Mark 3. And early Christians exclude any reference to a virgin birth in one of their earliest statements of faith found in the first letter of Paul to the Corinthians.

Why?

Because, as Raymond Brown notes, the infancy narratives represent a late layer of tradition incorporated in the gospels -- an afterthought that in many respects was inconsistent with the earlier tradition recorded in Mark. The annunciation is part of that later tradition and something not known to the earliest Christians or to the author of Mark, a gospel entirely silent about Jesus' birth -- let alone any miracle birth.

An early Christmas gift from Chess and re-post from another thread.
truth

Perth, Australia

#489397 Nov 7, 2013
i am not in any synagog
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
never
truth

Perth, Australia

#489398 Nov 7, 2013
what others tray set up
is perfectly evil and clear..
many evil spirits and invisible forces
yeeeee

they are evil

not me

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#489399 Nov 7, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Just like Adolf Hitler!
Praise Paul!
Hitler had a thing about pyre,Aryans,.

Lebensborns cranking out blonde,blue eyed ..tall fathers,

One has,to wonder if he,ever looked in a mirror

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#489400 Nov 7, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is what a Disciple of The Apostle John said. His name is Ignatius of Antioch and he was ordained a Bishop by Peter. Unlike the origional manuscripts of the NT, his writings are still preserved on the same paper he wrote them on between 90 AD and 107 AD.
"Wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to Baptize or give Communion without the consent of the Bishop; therefore whatever has his approval will be pleasing to God; thus will be safe and valid"
"Take not to those who hold heterdox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ who has come to us. They abstain from the Eucharist and prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of Jesus Christ who has come to us. Flesh which suffered for our sins and the father in His goodness raised up again. Those who deny this gift are perishing in their disputes"
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch
Does the Church of Christ believe the bread and wine are the real presence of Jesus Christ or a symbol?
CLAY..what bothers,me,about you and a few others,
You hold these,WRITINGS in higher regard ..or seem to ..than the SCRIPTURES ...
Now,you ate saying something about they being better preserved ??

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489401 Nov 7, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God" - Jesus
Now, Now, my fellow seeker.

In 1700 years the words of Jesus have fallen on the deaf ears of Christians. Do not expect them to listen now.
truth

Perth, Australia

#489402 Nov 7, 2013
is sofonija as phone your digital god..

How many God you have?

Did you act as conciseness or simple read what so ever.
Don't be naive think with your mind.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489403 Nov 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The term synagogue comes to mind!
:)
The best synagogue I ever attended was myself and a minister friend discussing theology in a doughnut shop one afternoon.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489404 Nov 7, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Listen up, the Catholic Church is nothing more than the biggest deceiver of mankind.....
Agreed.

Also, when you realize that all modern Christianity is simply minor variations on Catholicism you will be able to start seeking the truth.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489405 Nov 7, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Jewish my friend, not Catholic, did you see a Catholic Church in the bible, NO, bet you seen a Jewish Synagogue though.
A Jewish synagogue prior to 70AD was not a building. It was a meeting of individuals to study and discuss scripture, philosophy and moral issues... usually in open public spaces like town squares and parks.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489406 Nov 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
L. Michael White: Professor of Classics and Director of the Religious Studies Program University of Texas at Austin
At what point did Christians start thinking of themselves as separate from Judaism?
The preacher of Antioch and later of Constantinople, John Chrysostom, complains in a series of eight sermons to his congregation, that "you must stop going to the Synagogue, you must not think that the Synagogue is a holier place than our churches are." This clearly indicates that the break between Judaism and Christianity, even as late as the 4th century ... still is not absolute, is not permanent.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
Correct. It was only with Constantine and later Emperors' policies of exterminating Jews and non-Roman sects of Christians that the RCC emerged as the sole form of Christianity in the Empire and completely severed from Judaism.

Fortunately several manuscripts exist to dispels the lies of Modern Christianity.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#489407 Nov 7, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
One of the earliest Christian texts extant is a genuine letter from Paul to the Corinthians. At 1 Corinthians 15:3-5 he writes:
<quoted text>
This is a kerygma, a programmatic statement of faith. While Paul's letter is genuine -- his effort from around 50 AD -- the words in the above passage are not his. They represent a well-worn statement of faith, something he "received" and merely is repeating....
It also contradicts all the Canonical Gospels.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#489408 Nov 7, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
One of the earliest Christian texts extant is a genuine letter from Paul to the Corinthians. At 1 Corinthians 15:3-5 he writes:
<quoted text>
This is a kerygma, a programmatic statement of faith. While Paul's letter is genuine -- his effort from around 50 AD -- the words in the above passage are not his. They represent a well-worn statement of faith, something he "received" and merely is repeating.
It is a statement as old -- or nearly so -- as Christianity itself.
Notice this kerygma is devoid of any reference to a virgin birth. A virgin birth was not necessary to the faith of the earliest Christians. Indeed, it was not known to them.
Fast forward to Mark, written around 70 AD. In Mark, a polemic against the Jerusalem Assembly, Jesus' family is antagonistic to him. In Mark 3, for example, the following passage is found:
<quoted text>
Odd that, given the annunciation found in Luke 1:
<quoted text>
So Mary, having been told by an angel of the special mission of her son in Luke 1, thinks her son is nuts when he engages in that mission in Mark 3. And early Christians exclude any reference to a virgin birth in one of their earliest statements of faith found in the first letter of Paul to the Corinthians.
Why?
Because, as Raymond Brown notes, the infancy narratives represent a late layer of tradition incorporated in the gospels -- an afterthought that in many respects was inconsistent with the earlier tradition recorded in Mark. The annunciation is part of that later tradition and something not known to the earliest Christians or to the author of Mark, a gospel entirely silent about Jesus' birth -- let alone any miracle birth.
An early Christmas gift from Chess and re-post from another thread.
First Mary may have gone along wit the MALE relatives ...whoever we believe them to be ....as a,MEDIATOR between her children .

The brothers at first did not BELIEVE...But they came around .
Mary knew her son was special ..But even SHE may not have known
how special. But SHE DID KNOW HE WAS ABOUT HIS,FATHERS WORK.

I imagine HER CHIEF CONCERN...was,to try to keep Him.safe ...perhaps,away from the Priests . She knew He was not popular with them ..

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