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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603834 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#488896 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I believe Christianity is far more rife with "pharisees" than Judaism ever was from what I observe.
Jewish Virtual Library

Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes
By Mitchell G. Bard

The Pharisees

The most important of the three were the Pharisees because they are the spiritual fathers of modern Judaism.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H ...
truth

Perth, Australia

#488897 Nov 6, 2013
see secret majsons numbers
see
upstairs and downstairs
we call from water cascade when water folling down
see rivers going in and out
see
..
see inside is lots of deep secrets passige
you can see that
then why you mortal if not see
its secrets

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#488898 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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FREAKY EXPERIENCE ..had to do tests,to determine brain death a,few times ...talk about chills,...this,was,years,ago.. was,like,I'd,keep talking ...But know,no one was home,. Except one time,...I knew,or felt a presence besides mine in the room.
When DOES the soul,leave the BODY ..
Then he crossed his,legs,...muscle reflecting I was ready to run..kept saying they will let you go soon ..don't worry ..
Makes one wonder. Causes you to question what you are conditioned to accept as "reality" doesn't it?
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#488899 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Show me where it says to baptize an infant. No where will you find in the bible that an infant needs to be baptized. Tell me why they are needing to be baptized. An infant is without sin. The bible says the soul that sinneth it shall die, so that leaves out an infant because they cannot sin. Whatever false religion you are in I urge you to go to the nearest Church of Christ and get baptized and become a Christian and live your life for the Lord. Please answer my questions instead of giving me your advice on what I need to do.
The Bible records the birth of Christianity. Of course you're only going to see adults. The Apostles wouldn't have baptized infants without their parents being Baptized first.

And I told you, the name 'Church of Christ' is already taken. That's what Catholic means. There are 23 Universal Churches of Christ who follow the 266th successor to Peter as the Bishop of Rome.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#488900 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Really?
Have you ever had the experience of someone else's mortality in your hands?
Until you do, you are speaking in supposition, not actuality.
The "morality" doesn't change, the actuality of circumstance [does].
I believe you have the two confused....or are attempting to "justify" (rationalize) that bad behavior by moving the goalpost of basic "morality" to a more acceptable position...one deviating from the basic balance between good and bad behavior.
Why are you mixing the words mortality with morality?

The subject was about whether people automatically know how to be good or bad.

Men that believe in polygamy believe that if they "don't" have more than one wife, they are bad. Monogamists believe that if men have "more" than one wife they are bad.

Different cultures have different sets of rules for their concepts of morality.
truth

Perth, Australia

#488901 Nov 6, 2013
i been before as well i know who they are
nobody and nothing=0

sveti martine brodaru
cuvaj nase orase i daorse kod stoca
Svetti vinko moli protiv Magle i maglica
kopaj tu u rijecici doli nesto lezi

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#488902 Nov 6, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Working for the Lord
Peace
Here is the dilemma....You don't think babies can believe. But it has been shown that a baby has more working brain cells than an adult. This would make them "smarter" than an adult.
So exposure to God, would be more thorough than an adult(with dead and prejudiced brain cells). So a baby's beliefs are more open for baptism.
If you think that because a person "understands", and this makes their beliefs truer, then you miss the mark. It is for you to understand that it is a child's/baby's baptism that begins the process of learning about God, which in turn reinforces faith, hope and love.
We must also become as a child/babe in order to be baptized....
Peace
We as adults are to be child like in the sense we believe as a child would without hesitation in believing what God says, once again the word believing which again shows the ability one must have to do God's will, which is believe, and this is also another thing an infant isn't able to do. As adults we are not to be child like in belief to be caught up in everything that's said without proof. The fact is a child is pure and sin free and in no need of being baptized so we can be forgiven of our past sins which again an infant doesn't have a need to be forgiven as they are sin free.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#488903 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> But he also says He that believeth "AND IS" baptized will be saved. AND IS takes believe and baptized and joins them together to mean both are equally necessary to be done together in order to be SAVED. Baptism is essential to one's salvation. Jesus last words he spoke before being ascended to heaven were to teach and BAPTIZE.
Apparently your Bible reads differently than mine.

My Bible says, John 3:16-18, 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."

Your Bible MUST read, "John 3:16-18, 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him AND IS BAPTIZED should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe AND IS NOT BAPTIZED is condemned already, because he has not believed AND WAS NOT BAPTIZED in the name of the only Son of God."

Is this your contention? Does your Bible read differently than mine.

My Bible reads, Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."

Your Bible MUST read, Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith AND BAPTISM. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."

Baptism is an outward sign of an inward faith.
truth

Perth, Australia

#488904 Nov 6, 2013
sveti franjo cuvaj nase pucarike i smilje
ko smi i ko nesmi to pokraj onog ispod r.oka
pogled 25 degree sa visoka a more moje plave..you can see only 25 degree
in geometric projection its going look as crown as well one thing i am not going tell you

then
all continents going
we going remove them
then all planetary system going remove too..
don't tell
Did you have 5 cent sveti franjo its not platapus
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo

remember

everything going moveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

n
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#488905 Nov 6, 2013
Awe man, I'm gettin out of here. Bible verse warfare has begun between the born agains. Its civil war! its a battle royal. Oldgee, Truth, church of christ guy... how many different truths is the Holy Spirit revealing?

Baptism is one of the most important events in Christianity. Jesus wants it done a certain way. Which way is it?? I don't want to be the guy who's responsible for undoing the word of God. I'm being serious. One of you are guilty. That's a fact.
truth

Perth, Australia

#488906 Nov 6, 2013
they are nothing
not gods
if they are as they think
not will be life
they will be destroy everything

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#488907 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Jesus wants two parents to bring him the infant at Baptism. This is what the Apostles taught, we can prove it by the writings of the early Church.
You have absolutely no authority to change the word of God, truth.
The babies must be brought to the faith of pure Judaism. That was and is the rule set by Jehovah ... the ONLY Abrahamic GOD.

Within theology ... Jehovah's rule WAS and IS ... "Thou shalt have no others gods 'AFTER ME.'"

Because the Jews (with their one-god dogma) were so certain they had it all sewn up for their selves "EVER AFTER" ... they just forgot to write that part (AFTER ME)in the old testament to in turn protect their selves.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

Exodus 20:3

Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#488908 Nov 6, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Really? I don't think so. Give this a read. These people received the gift of the Holy Spirit BEFORE baptism. BEFORE!!!
Acts 10:44-48, 44 "Even as Peter was saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who were listening to the message. 45 The Jewish believers who came with Peter were amazed that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles, too. 46 For they heard them speaking in other tongues and praising God. Then Peter asked, 47 “Can anyone object to their being baptized, now that they have received the Holy Spirit just as we did?” 48 So he gave orders for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Afterward Cornelius asked him to stay with them for several days."


So why did the Spirit come upon Cornelius and his household? The answer is clearly stated by Peter in Acts 15:8-11. "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." God acknowledged them, or bore them witness, or testified to them (depending on your translation) by giving them the Holy Spirit.

Hence, our next question ought to be, "A witness to what?" Some time after Cornelius's conversion the issue was raised as to whether a Gentile had to become a Jew before he could be saved. "Some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses" (Acts 15:5). Peter's response to this was to point out that the Spirit came to witness that these Gentiles could be saved without being first a Jew. But take note that Peter did not say that the Spirit came to witness that a person could be saved without baptism.

This then leads to the question, "Why did the Spirit come before Cornelius was baptized in water?" In order to answer this question, you need to notice that six Jewish Christians had accompanied Peter to Cornelius's house (Acts 10:23; 11:12). As stated in the text, the Spirit's coming was a shock to these men. "And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God" (Acts 10:45-46). Peter then turned to these same men and asked if they dare object to Cornelius being baptized in water given the obvious testimony of God (Acts 10:47; 11:17).

Also, notice that the Spirit did not come upon the Gentiles until Peter began to speak (Acts 11:15). Here was testimony to all that Gentiles could be saved through the word of God (Acts 11:13-14).

When Peter testified at the gathering in Jerusalem, recorded in Acts 15, he used the example of Cornelius to prove that Gentiles, while remaining Gentiles and not becoming Jews, were accepted by God. Peter did not use the case of Cornelius to prove that everyone should receive the Spirit, or that the Spirit burnt sin out of a sinner's heart, or that the Spirit's coming made him a child of God. Instead, we find that Peter used the baptism of the Spirit as proof that Cornelius and his household should be baptized in water, as recorded in Acts 10 and Acts 11. Peter consistently argued that the Gentiles were to receive the gospel without being bound to the Law. For anyone to claim otherwise would be trying God. "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?" (Acts 15:10).

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#488909 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Makes one wonder. Causes you to question what you are conditioned to accept as "reality" doesn't it?
Word was,the drowned children ..not here ..not gone ..some brain activity ..nothing to speak of

Not sure what they do now ..But very strict guidelines in e seventies ..
2Flat Brainwave tests,24 hours apart

Won t go into the worst one ...

Any way ..it out of that vocation..
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#488910 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>NOPE and you cant prove otherwise. I like others received the Holy Ghost 36 hours after I was Saved, and nine months before I was Baptized by water.
now lets look at what is Recorded in the Bible.
44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.…
Not yet Baptized were they, Hank? Just like me as I received that gift before I was baptized.
NOW YOU SHOW ME, ONE PERSON IN THE BIBLE WHO HAD RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST AS THEY WERE BEING BAPTISED.
and this isn't sudden, I have asked you to provide one name and you didn't.
You are absolutely correcto cowboy.
truth

Perth, Australia

#488911 Nov 6, 2013
i don't respect law any more
not any authority
less any corupt organization
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o
they all in as within

for one bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#488912 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> The New Testament happens to be for all, Galatians 3:28 NKJV
New King James Version
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. There is only Christian.
If all are going to end up in a god's loving care ... religion is unnecessary, and your preaching is all IN VAIN.

What a shame it would be for you ... if you couldn't PREACH about how to be holy and in turn worthy of salvation.

:)
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#488913 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
Awe man, I'm gettin out of here. Bible verse warfare has begun between the born agains. Its civil war! its a battle royal. Oldgee, Truth, church of christ guy... how many different truths is the Holy Spirit revealing?
Baptism is one of the most important events in Christianity. Jesus wants it done a certain way. Which way is it?? I don't want to be the guy who's responsible for undoing the word of God. I'm being serious. One of you are guilty. That's a fact.
Too bad you use polluted water. All you get is an infection.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#488914 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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It is not important to me what you believe...but is seems all important to you what I believe.
Is that why you keep debating with me, when I debate with you?

:)
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#488915 Nov 6, 2013
How Can Water Baptism Wash Away Sins?

The Bible tells us that “according to the law almost all things are purged with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission”(Hebrews 9:22). Any covenant was dedicated with blood. No amount of sacrifice, however, could atone for mankind’s sins and fully restore our relationship with God. The only means of redemption was through the Lord’s own blood (Colossians 1:14; Revelation 1:5). Jesus Christ’s blood seals a new and everlasting covenant between God and His children (Hebrews 12:24).

If baptism were merely immersion in water, then it would be nothing but a religious rite, since water cannot take away guilt. But the mystery of baptism lies in the profound unity of water, blood, and the Holy Spirit.

After Jesus died on the cross,“one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out. And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe”(John 19:34-35).

John, a disciple of Jesus, witnessed how Jesus Christ poured out His blood along with water and opened the fountain of cleansing. He explained the meaning of what he saw:

This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth…there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three agree as one (1 John 5:6-8).

Baptism is where water and blood come together under the eternal Spirit of God. Jesus Christ arose from death by the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 3:18) to enter heaven as our mediator before God (Hebrews 9:15, 24). The Holy Spirit, which God gives to believers, testifies that Jesus is alive and that His blood cleanses us (Hebrews 9:14) today. So while a sinner is immersed in water physically, his spiritual being is being cleansed in the blood of Christ (Hebrews 10:22:“washed”= immersed).

No sin is too great to be forgiven. God is ready to pardon everyone who turns back to Him and seeks cleansing. But you must first accept Jesus Christ and His gospel of salvation, confess your sins before God, and determine to follow His words.

“Repent,” the apostle Peter tells us,“and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins”(Acts 2:38).

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