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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688636 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#488713 Nov 6, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" I could worship a rock, or a totem pole, and I suggest I could have complete FAITH that the rock or totem pole LOVES me.
As FAITH is based on invisibility ... it allows imagination to grow WILD of its own accord.

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Faith can be based on NOTHING except Christ's salvation. No dead thing (or false religion) can love or save anyone. "There is ONE NAME given under heaven whereby a man might be saved." That name is Christ Jesus.

Imagination is a mental image-in-action. Faith is solid trust in The Solid Rock...He never changes/fails.

KayMarie

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488714 Nov 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose,
I mean no disrespect....
This is coming from my heart and soul....
If you were baptized as a baby, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you be baptized again for the right reasons.
What is the purpose of baptism?
To free us from the bondage of sin....
What sin have you committed as a baby?
I WAS after giving a,profession of faith and brief account ...witness ..
As,I said I prayed on it ..I knew,it was something GOD wanted of me..

No one pressured me either and it was a BAPTIST CHURCH ....I had heard really odd things,that were NOT true about Baptists .

Which goes,to show get information first hand about ANY CHURCH one thinks of Joining .

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488715 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Wait a minute.
.....show us where Jesus told someone to be Baptized......
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" - Matthew 28:19

Damn! You morons never read your own magic book.

If I really believed the Bible was the Perfect Word of God like you clowns say you do, I would spend my life memorizing it.

All you clowns do is prove that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE A SINGLE THING!

You are worse than atheists! You are all frauds and liars!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488716 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> This is life and unfortunately you will have pain and suffering,
We will?

You are being way to vague.

Currently, I would think that many people at this point in time, DO NOT HAVE any pain or suffering.

Why do you project? Ar eyou in pain and are suffering right now?

How?

Your mental ruse won't work, unless you are delibrately trying to mislead others with false information. Are you?
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text>you will not have these problems in heaven,

You don't know this, unless you have died and gone to heaven and then came back.

Have you?

If you have, then you are like Jesus, and will then have to prove you did all those things in order to make the claim that this is true.

I don't believe you know anything about heaven, except the opinions of other men.
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text>so I urge you to go to the nearest Church of Christ and get baptized and live your life as a child of God knowing that when your life here on earth is over, so will the pain and suffering.
I urge you to begin believing in all of what Jesus taught, because if you don't, then you won't be able to understand what you learn from the Bible.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#488717 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ is our high Priest too. Can you show us where He tells us the list of Books for the Bible?
The Bishops of the Catholic Church debated the canon in the 4th century. The Bishop of Rome spoke and the list of Books were defined. Protestants began to removed certain books 1200 yrs later, then the Bishop spoke again- clarifying the list.
If He is your High Priest, what do you need the pope for?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488718 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ is our high Priest too. Can you show us where He tells us the list of Books for the Bible?
The Bishops of the Catholic Church debated the canon in the 4th century. The Bishop of Rome spoke and the list of Books were defined. Protestants began to removed certain books 1200 yrs later, then the Bishop spoke again- clarifying the list.
Well, it appears you know the progression of the canon, all done through men, yet you still think fallible men can define an infallible being.

Why?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488719 Nov 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark" <quoted text>
Again, John Baptist was not Catholic.
KM
I don't even believe that such a character existed to jump from the old testament to centuries later jump into the new testament.

But since you are so silly as to play religious games ... I'll ask you this question.

As you don't believe that John baptized Jesus as a Catholic ... do you believe that John baptized Jesus as a Jew, or do you believe that John baptized Jesus as a Protestant???

Silly people!!!
Liam

Garden City, MI

#488720 Nov 6, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonderful speech Clay.
Again..we don't need a pope because we have a High Priest in Jesus Christ. Your pope is flawed, Christ is not.
What kinda cop out is that? What exactly does Jesus do to govern your church? Did He give you the list of Books for the Bible? Did He command you to go by said list?
How about infant Baptism, Chuck. The first century catacombs reveal that people with first hand knowledge of the Gospel, baptized their infants. First hand knowledge. They sat and listened to the Apostles explain the faith.. So why on earth would you guys show up 1600 yrs later and undo this?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488721 Nov 6, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
You are worse than atheists! You are all frauds and liars!
Hahahahahahaha.
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Discrimination against atheists

Ancient times

Those labeled as atheist, which included early Christians and Muslims, were as a result targeted for legal persecution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_a ...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488722 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Hank is like the rich young man that spoke to Jesus and told Jesus told Jesus all that has done, and Jesus asnswered him in this manner. "yet thou lackest one thing".
and that one thing is what Hank lacks. its called Salvation, and water doesn't give that to him or to us. Hank has put his soul in jeopardy by believing that water Baptism has saved him. my prayer for hank has always been that he sees that before it is to late
Preston ..we had both seen a,lot .

IMO...if a person has true FAITH in Christ as SAVIOUR ...has repented .....

If the rituals they follow,or think of ..Well God willsort it all out .
Saved..not saved ..it's in His,court ..

We can meet Him..after being good people or after a life of SIN ..as a child or on our death bed .

That's how merciful our God is

Jesus,knows His,sheep ..no matter which CHURCH...no CHurch ...Catholic ..Messianic ....Evangelucal ...a cave .they worship in......his,SHEEP hear His voice ...

that's my belief on it ...

We accept that we are the BLOOD BOUGHT CHILDren of he most High God
YAHWEH ..our ABBA, THROUGH his,Sins sacrifice ..LED INTO FAITH BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ...

OR we do not BElieve ...

Or ..worse ..we go through the motions ..WORSHIPPING the rituals ...not than our SAVIOUR .

GOD KNOWs,EACH HEART ,brother ..

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#488723 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
You fool no one. Jesus established one faith and one fold. You can't tell me with a straight face that all of you have the same faith. You make a mockery out of Our Lords ministry by scattering His teachings in a million different pieces.
If there were no Catholics on this forum, you all would bludgeon each other with Bible verses. You'd start by ganging up on the church of christ member. Then you'd move on to Ox. Then you'd divide between the OSAS subscribers and the other various doctrines. After the OSAS guys are silenced, Preston would convince y'all that God verbally communicates with him. Then next thing you know, you guys will be gathered together in the same compound studying the Book of Revelation.... Awaiting the Apocalypse.
After all this, you'll still convince everyone that the 'bible interests itself' lol
Jesus established the office of the Papacy because He foresaw this mess. Peter set up the Church like the Lord commanded. Its still there 2,000 yrs later
Jesus did not "establish the office of the papacy becaue He foresaw this mess" This mess began because of this mess the Catholic Church was in at the time.Jesus did not establish the Catholic Church of today.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488724 Nov 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Faith can be based on NOTHING except Christ's salvation.
I believe that Jews faithful to Jehovah (the only Abrahamic god in the sky) would disagree with you.

:)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488725 Nov 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
As we all know, Preston, SIN cannot enter the kingdom of heaven....
"as we all know"

- you don't know that this is true or not
- Also, please don't include me in your "we" ruse, because I don't know whether what you say is true or false.

And if you were honest in any part of your mind, you would admit the same as I.

But you appear that you do have a hard time with admitting these facts, because you chose to say your untrue statement.

Why?

Are you afraid to admit the truth?
Liam

Garden City, MI

#488726 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Hank is like the rich young man that spoke to Jesus and told Jesus told Jesus all that has done, and Jesus asnswered him in this manner. "yet thou lackest one thing".
and that one thing is what Hank lacks. its called Salvation, and water doesn't give that to him or to us. Hank has put his soul in jeopardy by believing that water Baptism has saved him. my prayer for hank has always been that he sees that before it is to late
It doesn't matter if you think water is important or not. You're not an authority on the ministry of Jesus Christ. Seriously, He already taught what Baptism is, Preston. You can't undo it. You are committing a terrible sin by adding private interpretation and sola scripture and changing Baptism.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488727 Nov 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
As we all know, Preston, SIN cannot enter the kingdom of heaven....
If, by what you say, baptism is not a command or is not necessary, how are we going to enter the kingdom of heaven still in sin???
What is the remedy for sin???
If we want a clear conscience from the bondage of sin, how do we accomplish this, Preston???
Romans 6:1-14
6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
2 By no means!~~~We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?~~~
3 <<<Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?>>>
4 *We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.*
5 <<<<<For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.>>>>> How do we accomplish this without baptism???
6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—(CRUCIFIED WITH HIM--FREE FROM THE BONDAGE OF SIN) HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHOUT BAPTISM???
7 *****because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.*****
(If baptism is not a COMMAND and is NOT necessary, how are we SET FREE from SIN???)
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.(SPIRITUAL) We DIED with Christ...we will also <<<LIVE>>> with him.
9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, <<<he lives to God.>>>
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.(SPIRITUAL) We are DEAD to sin AND ALIVE to God...in WHO??? Christ Jesus....WHY???
Because we were baptized into Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.
12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; (SPIRITUAL)(WE WERE BROUGHT FROM DEATH TO LIFE) and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because ~you are not under the law, but under grace.~
We are set free ..it is finished ..by the BLOOD OF CHRIST ..HE DID IT .

BAPTISM ..wonderful ..But HIS BLOOD ..HIM DRINKING THAT VILE CUP OF OUR SIN. is what has saved us .

Baptism symbolizes death to the old ...

Many who met Him were NOT baptized ..many were ..they believed ..or didn't ...

Must believe to have ETERNAL LIFE ..must believe
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488728 Nov 6, 2013
It meaning according to Oxford English Dictionary sources is given as “certainty, truth”. In Finlayson’s Symbols and Legends of Freemasonry(page 20) it is stated “AMEN-This untranslatable word, the same in all languages is a name of the great God of Egypt.” In Revelation 3:14, God is called “the AMEN”.

http://one-heaven.org/content/about_evil.html

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#488729 Nov 6, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" - Matthew 28:19
Damn! You morons never read your own magic book.
If I really believed the Bible was the Perfect Word of God like you clowns say you do, I would spend my life memorizing it.
All you clowns do is prove that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE A SINGLE THING!
You are worse than atheists! You are all frauds and liars!
I have no PROBLEM reading that verse.

Jesus commanded the Apostles to Baptized people.

HE NEVER TOLD ONE PERSON IN THE BIBLE TO BE BAPTIZED.

AGAIN, JESUS COMMANDED THE APOSTLES TO BAPTISE OTHERS.

HE NEVER SPOKE TO ONE SINGLE PERSON TO UNDERGO BAPTISM.

not is there evidence that Jesus EVER baptized a single person, and I have as yet to see one name mentioned, but MAYBE you know more than I do. If so, please as I have asked hank, provide me with ONE name.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488730 Nov 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Faith can be based on NOTHING except Christ's salvation.
Untrue.

I can place faith in that my car will operate this morning. No Jesus involved.

Please stop making up things taht only fit your mode of theology.

BTW -'faith' is generated through one's mind and thoughts - which is an action of Self, and no other person.

Please stop trying to mislead others with false assertions.
confrinting with the word wrote:
No dead thing (or false religion) can love or save anyone.
One can learn fromo the dead, as we have from the living.

One example would be - someone dying from lung cancer, can be a lesson for another relative to no smoke - thus, in some aspect of this, the person who died actually contributed to saving another.

It has seemed that everything you believe has to be in accordance with the men you believe, huh?
confrinting with the word wrote:
"There is ONE NAME given under heaven whereby a man might be saved." That name is Christ Jesus.
Not according to Jesus - "to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God".

Maybe you got the wrong message. I can see that happening, especially if you beleive the men who tell you what to believe.

Again, you speak of Self - in order to make this unfounded conclusion.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Imagination is a mental image-in-action.
Self.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Faith is solid trust in The Solid Rock...He never changes/fails.
KayMarie
Self.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488731 Nov 6, 2013
In order to make their own religion appear to be the only truth ... the Christians vilified all other terminology in all other religions ... bending and twisting the terminology as being based on EVIL.
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Lucifer- 300/400 CE to present

Latin = light bringer and proper name for Venus (lux, luc = light + fer = bearing). The morning star, Venus, when she appears in the sky before sunrise.

It is uncertain when this word came to be used as another name for Satan (the Devil). However, given the closeness of the name to venus and the Roman god worship, it is likely that the negative meaning of the word did not gain widespread usage until the effective takeover of the Roman Empire’s apparatus by the Christians post 300 CE.

http://one-heaven.org/content/about_evil.html

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488732 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Which goes,to show get information first hand about ANY CHURCH one thinks of Joining .
Why - you didn't with do this prior to believing in Christianity?

You sound confused.

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