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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688666 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488693 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
NAH
I am responsible for MY OWN actions ..have no control over others ..
That does not mean that in my human self I don't react ...to them..
Even if the god happened to be REAL ... you have no control over the emotions of the god ... and that was my point.

You presume that a god exists that in turn loves you ... and that is taking a whole lot "for granted" ... especially considering that the Abrahamic god was first created in the imaginations of Jews ... to in turn favor ONLY Jews.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488694 Nov 6, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
If Jesus WAS willingly baptized as a Catholic ... that means that all Protestants MUST become Catholic, as that is the true faith of Judaism ... er ... uh I mean ... the true faith ... period!
I find it hilarious that people take their own religious nonsense as absolute immove-able truth.
Consider that they believe the following nonsense:

A book compiled in 350 AD existed before the Big Bang.

A Jew executed circa 30 AD existed before the Big Bang.

Special people can splash water on someone and give them eternal life.

Zombies are real.

God requires them to drink human blood and flesh.

... ad infiinitum,

Are you surprised at any crazy thing they believe ?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#488695 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but I have always know that Nick knew exactly what Jesus was talking about when he proclaimed that he was not able to live in his mom womb again.
unless you think that he, being a teacher of law, was not a very smart man.
there is [one baptism] however we need to know just which [one] baptism the writer was talking about.
and John makes it very simple. he says I Baptize you with Water, but He will Baptized you with fire and power, therefore we must conclude that they are not the same. if they are, the water would extinguish the fire, and there would be NO Power, and we who have been Baptized with the Fire and Power know that is not the case.
again, you try to change the subject on me, so back to my original question.
where did Jesus command ONE person to be Baptized?
just answer that question
As we all know, Preston, SIN cannot enter the kingdom of heaven....

If, by what you say, baptism is not a command or is not necessary, how are we going to enter the kingdom of heaven still in sin???

What is the remedy for sin???

If we want a clear conscience from the bondage of sin, how do we accomplish this, Preston???

Romans 6:1-14

6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

2 By no means!~~~We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?~~~

3 <<<Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?>>>

4 *We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.*

5 <<<<<For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.>>>>> How do we accomplish this without baptism???

6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—(CRUCIFIED WITH HIM--FREE FROM THE BONDAGE OF SIN) HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHOUT BAPTISM???

7 *****because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.*****
(If baptism is not a COMMAND and is NOT necessary, how are we SET FREE from SIN???)

8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.(SPIRITUAL) We DIED with Christ...we will also <<<LIVE>>> with him.

9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, <<<he lives to God.>>>

11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.(SPIRITUAL) We are DEAD to sin AND ALIVE to God...in WHO??? Christ Jesus....WHY???

Because we were baptized into Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.

12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; (SPIRITUAL)(WE WERE BROUGHT FROM DEATH TO LIFE) and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.

14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because ~you are not under the law, but under grace.~
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488696 Nov 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Thanx.I was looking for clarification on that.
Clarification ... or "agreement."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488697 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> This is life and unfortunately you will have pain and suffering,
And so will non-human forms of life, which existed long before humans.

If a creator exists ... it's a monster.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488698 Nov 6, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Origin was another devout Catholic, who refused to call Jehovah by his REAL Jewish name.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
Origen (d. 254) wrote that just as “no one is good, except the one only God, the Father,” likewise “no river is good except the Jordan.”
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/1879/...
Only taking a dip in the Jordan River gets you to Heaven.

For every Christian belief there is an opposite (and equally ridiculous) Christian belief.- Newton
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#488699 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
What if one meets the,Spirit some how in a,persecuted country...giving their soul to Christ . But no one to baptize them...
Sorry on this one I agree with Preston...
However out if love for Jesus,..I was baptized ..But told in the BAPTIST church ...it was an outward sign of my faith with NOT redeeming power unto itself ...
Rose,

To enter a covenant relationship with God, we MUST be baptized into Jesus' death, burial and resurrection....

John 6:44

44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me ~~~draws them,~~~ and I will raise them up at the last day.

John 6:65

65 He went on to say,“This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has <<<<<enabled >>>>> them.”
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488700 Nov 6, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Pick up the NKJV and read the new testament and you will know that the catholic Church isn't in the bible at all
The Catholics authorized the new testament as total truth.

Do you believe that Jesus wanted to be baptized as a Catholic???

That is why I state that from my opinion the new testament is based on anti-Semitism.

Within the realm of theology ... No Jew (faithful to his Jewish father) would EVER desire to betray his father by having a desire to become a Catholic.

Even within wacky theology ... it makes NO sense.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#488701 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I usually agree with his posts,on Jesus,..And I had to really examine myself on the,Baptism question. As I had,been baptized as a baby ..
I'm convinced GOD,,wanted,me to ...But I was born again by the,HOLY Spirit through 're,redeeming power of the,BLOOD shed for me and my repentance and FAITH in my SAVIOUR ..
Christ said to preach and baptize into repentance,?? Which Baptism ..Spirit or water .
And,correct ..a,Muslim.believing Christ as,Saviuir ..May not KNOW another Chrisian he can turn to ..
The,SPIRIT uses what HE uses ...when He uses,it ..HOW He chooses o turn us,to Christ ...wherever we,are in life ...
And,We confess,our SINS,DIRECTLY to Our Lord ..ate forgiven by Him.
We are,born again by the,GRACE of God through FAITH in JESUS CHRIST
Hank is like the rich young man that spoke to Jesus and told Jesus told Jesus all that has done, and Jesus asnswered him in this manner. "yet thou lackest one thing".

and that one thing is what Hank lacks. its called Salvation, and water doesn't give that to him or to us. Hank has put his soul in jeopardy by believing that water Baptism has saved him. my prayer for hank has always been that he sees that before it is to late
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488702 Nov 6, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Only taking a dip in the Jordan River gets you to Heaven.
For every Christian belief there is an opposite (and equally ridiculous) Christian belief.- Newton
Well ... what can be expected when people are taught by theologians that ONLY their own cult OWNS truth???
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488703 Nov 6, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Consider that they believe the following nonsense:
A book compiled in 350 AD existed before the Big Bang.
A Jew executed circa 30 AD existed before the Big Bang.
Special people can splash water on someone and give them eternal life.
Zombies are real.
God requires them to drink human blood and flesh.
... ad infiinitum,
Are you surprised at any crazy thing they believe ?
I can say with honesty that concerning beliefs, nothing surprises me.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#488704 Nov 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
As we all know, Preston, SIN cannot enter the kingdom of heaven....
If, by what you say, baptism is not a command or is not necessary, how are we going to enter the kingdom of heaven still in sin???
What is the remedy for sin???
If we want a clear conscience from the bondage of sin, how do we accomplish this, Preston???
Romans 6:1-14
6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
2 By no means!~~~We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?~~~
3 <<<Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?>>>
4 *We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.*
5 <<<<<For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.>>>>> How do we accomplish this without baptism???
6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—(CRUCIFIED WITH HIM--FREE FROM THE BONDAGE OF SIN) HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHOUT BAPTISM???
7 *****because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.*****
(If baptism is not a COMMAND and is NOT necessary, how are we SET FREE from SIN???)
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.(SPIRITUAL) We DIED with Christ...we will also <<<LIVE>>> with him.
9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, <<<he lives to God.>>>
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.(SPIRITUAL) We are DEAD to sin AND ALIVE to God...in WHO??? Christ Jesus....WHY???
Because we were baptized into Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.
12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; (SPIRITUAL)(WE WERE BROUGHT FROM DEATH TO LIFE) and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because ~you are not under the law, but under grace.~
Wait a minute.

you said that water baptism is a commandment, then prove it. show us where Jesus told someone to be Baptized.

how many times must I ask you to prove your statement is Biblical and Truthful?

I am not interested in anything else from you
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#488705 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I usually agree with his posts,on Jesus,..And I had to really examine myself on the,Baptism question. As I had,been baptized as a baby ..
I'm convinced GOD,,wanted,me to ...But I was born again by the,HOLY Spirit through 're,redeeming power of the,BLOOD shed for me and my repentance and FAITH in my SAVIOUR ..
Christ said to preach and baptize into repentance,?? Which Baptism ..Spirit or water .
And,correct ..a,Muslim.believing Christ as,Saviuir ..May not KNOW another Chrisian he can turn to ..
The,SPIRIT uses what HE uses ...when He uses,it ..HOW He chooses o turn us,to Christ ...wherever we,are in life ...
And,We confess,our SINS,DIRECTLY to Our Lord ..ate forgiven by Him.
We are,born again by the,GRACE of God through FAITH in JESUS CHRIST
Rose,

I mean no disrespect....

This is coming from my heart and soul....

If you were baptized as a baby, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you be baptized again for the right reasons.

What is the purpose of baptism?

To free us from the bondage of sin....

What sin have you committed as a baby?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488706 Nov 6, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ is our high Priest too.
You surely don't believe you are showing respect for a Jew by referring to him as a priest ... DO YOU???

The term Rabbi would be a show of respect.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#488707 Nov 6, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" <quoted text>
But according to the new testament Jesus was baptized by John who was a Catholic ... NOT a Protestant.
You have "gone off" in the ditch.
:)

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Again, John Baptist was not Catholic.
KM
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488708 Nov 6, 2013
People that claim to love gods assume that the gods MUST love them in return.

I suggest that in so doing ... you allow your imaginations far too much leeway.
- NOMAD-

Plymouth, MA

#488709 Nov 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Any gathering or congregation that follows the teaching of Christ is that church...His teachings are in the infallible sacred Word of God..the Bible....that eliminates the Catholics....
@ Oxbow > I agree with you about the RCC. However your idea about any gathering or congregation that follows the teaching of Christ is that church...His teachings are in the infallible sacred Word of God..the Bible....Problem is they may preach Jesus but their conduct in worldly affairs and their immorality give them away as pusedo chritian followers. In other words, Hypocrites, worthy of death. If you were a bible student you would come to realize that. Just because they believe in Jesus, doesn't garantee them Everlasting Life. Even the Demons believe, yet they shudder, because they know that they have done the opposite as a angel in the doing of God's Will.
The belief in Jesus does nothing for a fallen angel and the belief in Jesus does nothing for a human if what they do is NOT in harmony with God's Will. The bible book of James, the 1/2 brother of Jesus said " Faith Without Work's Is Dead" James 2:26
** Would like to stess to you and the board members that to have the Approval of God to Inherit Everlasting life, is a Relationship with the one who made that possible for us, namely Jesus the Christ of God the Father.This relationship is of 2 people You & Jesus. Jesus taught us the thing's we must do to maintane that relationship. He said, "All Those Doing the Will of My Father will Have Everlasting life" WHY?? Because they put their life into the hands of his Christ. They have listened and done the Will of his Father.Thus there belief in Jesus as the Messiah, the Christ is What opened the door to heaven and their inheriting Everlasting life.[ie] We gain Salvation through Jesus and the Blood he shed. To be SAVED, is a gift from God the Father. It is real and as a imperfect being, it is never given to people, simply because they believe that Jesus is the promised one. That is why the Demons who know Jesus is the real Christ, shudder, because they know their day's are numbered and that scares them.
So you see, having belief in Jesus is Just The Beginning. Those WHO ENDURE to the END are the Christians who get to live forever in paridise..

June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#488710 Nov 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose,
I mean no disrespect....
This is coming from my heart and soul....
If you were baptized as a baby, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you be baptized again for the right reasons.
What is the purpose of baptism?
To free us from the bondage of sin....
What sin have you committed as a baby?
If you have fun believing you are a sinner and that another human splashing water on you will relieve you of sin ... that is your prerogative. But to claim that nonsense is based on truth from a god and preaching that nonsense on a public forum as certain truth is going to receive response from those who disagree.

Religion is based on opinion ... and opinion is NOT PROOF.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488711 Nov 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Thanx.I was looking for clarification on that.
And yet bodies were seen resurrected after Jesus,was ..my understanding is the souls of believers were taken to heAven as well..by Jesus ..THEIR REDEEMER .. MOSES,ABRAHAM ..GOD FEARERS ....JOSEPH ..DAVID ..

their souls,were NOT left to eternal darkness after Jesus conquered DEATH

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488712 Nov 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark" <quoted text>
But according to the new testament Jesus was baptized by John who was a Catholic ... NOT a Protestant.
You have "gone off" in the ditch.
:)
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Again, John Baptist was not Catholic.
KM
He wasn't even a Christian!

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