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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 641404 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Mark

Hedel, Netherlands

#487681 Nov 3, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
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Not mine.
I am so secure in my faith that I find no offense whatsoever in your words -- unlike so many others here of weaker faith.
I am sure that my God is the greatest and most moral, because my God has never ordered anyone to be killed, raped, or tortured.
It feels good being morally superior, and having proof.
I am glad you hold that idea. But he seems to like torturing a lot if you reject him.

What would you think of me as a person, if I said. Obey me or I will torture you for ever? Does that sound like a "good guy" to you? Sounds more like a psychopath to me.

Jesus has all the traits of an egomaniac. He is even jealous of his followers loving their wives and kids. He says that if you do not hate your children, parents, brothers, you can not follow him. If you love another God besides him he wants to destroy you. It is all about Jesus and his Godsize ego. Even his martyr act is nothing but wanting the whole world kissing his ass. That is what egomaniacs want, to be revered like hero's.

I think for a God he is pretty lousy when it comes to virtues. Yes he calls himself loving, but that does not mean any warmth but only "mercy". My love is that I will not torture you forever. the love he demands is obedience. Excuse me, but the way Jesus redefines love, makes it a far cry from real love.

It love the way psychopathic emperors would define it. Jesus is created in the image of Roman emperors. That is why Jesus compares God to a king all the time. And in one likeness he asks: what will the king do to people that do not obey him? And his disciples say: he will kill them. Yes, that is how Roman emperors ruled.

But if there is really a being that oversees the Universe and is supposed to be the very source of love and virtues, than this can not be Jesus. Jesus is more like the psychopaths idea of a God. Psychopaths admire power, and like to torture.

Psychopaths can relate to Jesus. Psychopaths do not feel for others by can not stand rejection, like Jesus. They want to be worshipped like Jesus. Their suffering must be a drama for everyone. All should shed tears for them. Look at the funeral of Kim Il Sung. He was an evangelist like is his parents. That is where he got his inspiration. He lived to be a Jesus. When the hero died it was a national tragedy for his believers.



those are real believers!

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#487682 Nov 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="StarC" <quoted text>

You are fallen in to the 'know-it-all' religious historians who pick up on the failures of people who fail, and use them to condemn others who are innocent.
We could write about those CC Pope's who married, and mistreated other people, or the priests who mistreated little boys. I don't happen to be like any of those you mentioned, and I hope that you are not like the ones I just mentioned.
We have tried to point out some things that the CC holds to that do not 'fit' with the Bible. Rather than discuss whether penance or other things are 'right', you try disprove what we tell you by bringing up some failures of people that you suppose are part of us...and you missed it completely. Degrading us will never prove that 'you' are 'right' or 'best'.
Let Aimee answer to God. He is her judge...
KayMarie
KayMarie
Snipped for space...

So no one in your church ever mistreated any one? Yeah right, your own husband mistreats people on this board every time he posts to Catholics.

KM
You have fallen into a man-made church with its own made up rules.
We try to bring you truth of the ONLY Church that JESUS started, but you fail to understand b/c of your ignorance.

This is what we believe....and you should too!!

I/We believe in one God, the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial
with the Father;
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate
of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified
under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son
is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic,
and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection
of the dead and the life of the world to come.
Amen.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#487683 Nov 3, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Now I see why you left the Church. Why don't you be for abstinence? That is what a mother would do. The pill causes abortions rose. Scientists and doctors agree that it does. I really think you get your ideas from the secular media, and from those pro abort so called women who filled your head full of evil .Many Catholic women who used birth control have come back to the Church and repented, if you don't repent, rose remember what Our Lady of Fatima told the three little children, that many souls go to hell because of sins of the flesh. Maybe you need to talk to a priest, my church is all about forgiveness and we won't bite. catholicscomehome.org
Hmmm you never answered my question.regarding IF s hysterectomy is,a,sin..

E pill can be used for medical reasons,as well as birth control ...as can surgery ..people suffer ..knit ....

I said many times abstinence is the only way to assure no pregnancy ..You ignore it ..in order to cast insult me as,a,mother .

The pill stops ovulation..i did not get my info from p to abort any one ...that's,a fantasy in your head .I get mine from books I've studied on medicine ...schooling and doctors

Should the pill fail and an egg be produced and United with a sperm ..one will get pregnant ...
At which point GOD willing a woman will have an unplanned for child .

AND as for my personal reasons for doing anything ...You know,nothing ..nor is it your business

.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487684 Nov 3, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
<quoted text>
Not mine.
I am so secure in my faith that I find no offense whatsoever in your words -- unlike so many others here of weaker faith.
I am sure that my God is the greatest and most moral, because my God has never ordered anyone to be killed, raped, or tortured.
It feels good being morally superior, and having proof.
:)
Gods R Delusions but Mine

Orlando, FL

#487685 Nov 3, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
that was her goal, to taunt and antagonize until one of us called her a pathetic loser. THATs why I called her a pathetic loser. lol
I don't base that on her lack of belief in God, I base that on her actions to strip good people from their peace and comfort as they are getting older. You could add scoundrel to fascist, and pathetic loser too. It has nothing to do with theology or any other ology. Its based on pure actions by this woman. Its what she does not what she believes.
Not one of "us." No one but you called June such names.

No, Jesus does not want you to make excuses for attacking another with such unkindness.

Be a man and apologize to June for such nasty words. Make Jesus smile.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487686 Nov 3, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
KM
You have fallen into a man-made church with its own made up rules.
We try to bring you truth of the ONLY Church that JESUS started, but you fail to understand b/c of your ignorance.
How funny that you believe your interpretation of scripture is based on truth ... and other interpretations are based on ignorance!

You don't even recognize your own arrogance.
Human Being

Basile, LA

#487687 Nov 3, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
<quoted text>
My God never murdered anyone.
My God never ordered anyone murdered.
Where is your justice, Child of Abraham? Upon your hands is the blood of innocents, dripping from your cruel fingers.
I follow no murdering deity, but the FSM of Justice.
Ramen
GDR

I can appreciate a bit of crazy wisdom, although it tends towards contempt. And that is to negative a view.

If light-hearted satire is meant to dispel deception, I see nothing wrong.
Human Being

Basile, LA

#487688 Nov 3, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Were the demons of Muslim "extraction" ... or Christian "extraction???"
OH LET ME GUESS ... according to you the "angels" in your imaginary view-FINDER were ONLY of Christian OWNERSHIP!
Silly goof!
June

I didn't ask....

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487689 Nov 3, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
<quoted text>
They know not what they do.
I'm sure that nasty poster will apologise. Otherwise, he doesn't really believe in Jesus. So he must search his soul.
Ramen
I expect to be insulted. After all, I insult the most important issue in their lives and that is their religion.

Without it, most of them believe they are nothing more than any other animal ... and they find it very difficult to even consider THAT idea.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#487690 Nov 3, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
How funny that you believe your interpretation of scripture is based on truth ... and other interpretations are based on ignorance!
You don't even recognize your own arrogance.
Its not 'my' interpretation its the Apostles that walked the earth with JESUS.

You don't ever recognize your own arrogance.
:-D

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487691 Nov 3, 2013
The fact is that other animals were living and becoming extinct long before humans (according to their selves) took center stage.

I suggest that if humans go extinct it won't be any loss to planet earth. It will continue on its regular way of functioning with animals being born, suffering and then dying, and the weak animals and plants going extinct, while the stronger ones survive.

So it went ... and so it goes.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487692 Nov 3, 2013
I suggest that if humans had never been taught they were superior to other animals, the world would be a much better place to live.

There would be no competition about who gods love and who gods reject and other silly nonsense that stemmed direct from religion.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#487693 Nov 3, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
June,
When we meet God,we WILL ONLY be judged by our actions,..beliefs,..relationsh ip .
Not in comparison to anyone else .
It's,all up to Him ..
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sacraments ..confession .Eucharist ..all thing CATHOlic Church says,to do...
JESUS,paid for our,Sin ..blood sacrifice ..the only one,who could ..
Nothing we do can make up to God for the,things,done by us .
He,decreed how,sacrifices were made for sin..But a,PERFECT ONE was needed ..
This,whole idea,we needed an earthly high priest ..a temple in Rome .
Is not what HE SAID ..BE BORN AGAIN INTO FAITH ...in HIM ..not Peter ..who would most likely be repulsed at the wealth in Rome ..
Jesus will give PETER his throne in ISRAEL ....
Our,works ate to be because we love Him...not to gain Salvation.
For sure you didn’t pay much attention while you were been taught by “Catholic Nuns”
You know very well that every sacrament is in the Bible, these are Jesus rules.
Jesus would be repulsed at the way you speak of HIS ONE TRUE CHURCH.
St Peter our first Pope would be overjoyed at the growth of Jesus Church!!!
He knows for sure as he watches from heaven.

So you’re not OSAS?
If you are born again and you believe Jesus died for your sins why is there a Judgment Day???

Works and faith is in the Bible read it….or maybe you can take a class at a Catholic Church b/c for sure you didn’t learn much when the nuns taught you.

"Catholics believe that faith AND good works are both necessary for salvation, because such is the teaching of Jesus Christ. What Our Lord demands is "faith that worketh by charity ." (Gal. 5 :6). Read Matthew 25:31-46, which describes the Last Judgment as being based on works of charity. The first and greatest commandment, as given by Our Lord Himself, is to love the Lord God with all one's heart, mind, soul, and strength; and the second great commandment is to love one's neighbor as oneself.(Mark 12:30-31). When the rich young man asked Our Lord what he must do to gain eternal life, Our Lord answered: "Keep the commandments." (Matt. 19:17). Thus, although faith is the beginning, it is not the complete fulfillment of the will of God. Nowhere in the Bible is it written that faith alone justifies. When St. Paul wrote, "For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law," he was referring to works peculiar to the old Jewish Law, and he cited circumcision as an example."

Confession….AKA
"PENANCE – the sacrament, also known as Confession, through which Christ forgives sin and restores the soul to grace: "Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained." (John 20:22-23. Also see Matt. 18:18). "

"The HOLY EUCHARIST – the sacrament, also known as Holy Communion, which nourishes the soul with the true Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and wine: "And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and said: Take ye. This is my body. And having taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to them. And they all drank of it. And he said to them: This is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many." (Mark 14:22-24. Also see Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:52-54, 1 Cor. 10:16)."

ALL JESUS Rules!!!!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#487694 Nov 3, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
True, I would likely have been a Muslim if i was forced into it by society (at gun point).
But Im not. I could be an Atheist like you if I would have done terrible things in my life and tried to run from God out of fear.
if you would have become a muslim if forced by gun point than you would be betraying Christ and your church .Standing up for your convictions (faith) means your willing to die for them..I would have to say "see ya" cuz in no way ever would I give up Christ for Allah...

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487695 Nov 3, 2013
Many people in religion can't seem to cope with the idea that they might not join up once again with their deceased loved ones.

I don't have that problem.

If I never see them again ... that I accept.

They gave me enough happiness while they lived.
Husker Du

Falls City, NE

#487696 Nov 3, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm you never answered my question.regarding IF s hysterectomy is,a,sin..
E pill can be used for medical reasons,as well as birth control ...as can surgery ..people suffer ..knit ....
I said many times abstinence is the only way to assure no pregnancy ..You ignore it ..in order to cast insult me as,a,mother .
The pill stops ovulation..i did not get my info from p to abort any one ...that's,a fantasy in your head .I get mine from books I've studied on medicine ...schooling and doctors
Should the pill fail and an egg be produced and United with a sperm ..one will get pregnant ...
At which point GOD willing a woman will have an unplanned for child .
AND as for my personal reasons for doing anything ...You know,nothing ..nor is it your business
.
The pill is an abortifacient, you are only fooling yourself. And its a very grave mistake. S hysterectomy for medical reasons is okay, for family planning, its a mortal sin. I am a mother, and what you have done is irresponsible.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487697 Nov 3, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not 'my' interpretation its the Apostles that walked the earth with JESUS.
It was the Catholics that WROTE the fantasy-tale of Jesus walking the earth with his apostles, and it was a whole lot of nonsense.

If Jesus had walked the earth with his Jewish apostles, they would have been discussing how to teach the people how to be better Jews in how they practiced pure and "unadulterated" Judaism ... period! End of story!!!

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#487698 Nov 3, 2013
Q.Why is the Catholic Church opposed to birth control? Where in the Bible is birth control condemned as being contrary to the Will of God?

A. The Catholic Church is not opposed to birth control when it is accomplished by natural means, by SELF control. She is opposed only to birth control by artificial means, by the employment of pills, condoms, IUD's, foams, jellies, sterilization, non-completion of the act of sexual union – or any other means used to prevent conception from resulting from this act – because such means profane the marital embrace and dishonor the marriage contract. God slew Onan for practicing contraception (Gen. 38:9-10); the word "onanism" derives from Onan's deed.

In fact, up until the Church of England's Lambeth Conference of 1930, which accepted

contraception and thus broke with the Christian

tradition, contraception had been considered by

all Christian churches, both Catholic and

Protestant, to be gravely sinful. The Catholic

Church does not feel free to change the law of

God, as do Protestants.

In the New Testament, there is only one instance where sin is punished by God with immediate death, this was the fate of Ananias and Saphira, a husband and wife who went through the motions of giving a gift to God but fraudulently kept back part of it. The Bible says they lied to the Holy Spirit.(Acts 5:1-11). In contraception, two people go through the motions of an act of self-giving, but obstruct the natural fruition of their act, i.e., the conception of children, which is the ultimate purpose for which God created sexuality. Sexual union is a gift from God to the married, but by practicing contraception, married couples are accepting the pleasure God built into the act and yet denying Him its purpose, new people. They are in effect mocking God. But "Be not deceived, God is not mocked." (Gal. 6:7). Christ cursed the fig tree which, despite a fine external appearance, bore no fruit.(Matt. 21:19; Mark 11:14). Marriage is God's plan for populating Heaven, yet contracepting couples refuse Him the specific fruit of their marriage, which is children, when they engage in the act which should produce children yet frustrate the natural, God-intended result."

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#487699 Nov 3, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Now I see why you left the Church. Why don't you be for abstinence? That is what a mother would do. The pill causes abortions rose. Scientists and doctors agree that it does. I really think you get your ideas from the secular media, and from those pro abort so called women who filled your head full of evil .Many Catholic women who used birth control have come back to the Church and repented, if you don't repent, rose remember what Our Lady of Fatima told the three little children, that many souls go to hell because of sins of the flesh. Maybe you need to talk to a priest, my church is all about forgiveness and we won't bite. catholicscomehome.org
Your telling me that many woman in the Catholic church that used birth control have repented and come back to the church? Of all the millions of Catholic women? When was this study done??Please site your source for this? The more you preach your arrogants to Rose the more you show others that your desperate.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487700 Nov 3, 2013
StarC wrote:
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<quoted text>
ALL JESUS Rules!!!!
You must believe that nonsense that John the Baptist baptized Jesus as a Catholic.

How silly!!!

John of the old testament was pure Jew, and he didn't baptize anybody ... much less another Jew into Catholicism.

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