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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 641265 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484558 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Well! that is good news.
..... Maybe its time the prospering dioceses stopped being islands unto yourselves and offered financial help to the failing 9 dioceses in america. Another special collection maybe once a month to assist those that are faltering. Will it happen? Not likely. "I'm OK Jack but too bad for you" attitude.
Unions across america/canada assist each other when in need, why not catholic churches/dioceses helping those dioceses that are struggling. If its happening let me know.
They generally don't run surpluses, so there isn't extra cash laying round that isn't earmarked.
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484559 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
Ephesians 5:25-27
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") and gave himself up for her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT")
26 to make her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") holy, cleansing her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") by the washing with water through the word,(Jesus-as Jesus is the Word of God)
27 and to present her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-CALLED OUT) to HIMSELF as a radiant church,(GROUP OF PEOPLE) without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.(SAVED - baptized into Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection)
***by the washing with WATER THROUGH THE WORD (JESUS)....baptized into the FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT)
Do you see NOW why the Gospel of Jesus Christ is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY???
Do you see NOW why the Word of God (Jesus) is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY????
Well, the Catholic Church are a group of people called out. That's how you have a Bible to beat them over the head with. Your scripture analogy above, vindicates the Catholic Church.
Christ can only have one spouse. One faith and one fold, one truth. Right?
Your scenario that its a misc group of people that are the bride of Christ makes Him out to be a polygamist.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484560 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

So, based upon your logic, "sin" is irrelevant for any salvation, if Jesus already "paid for them".
You really don't know what Jesus taught, huh?
RoSesz wrote:
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We,MUST REPENT ..live in Christ ..make every effort to not Sin again ..
Self and an action of Self.

Does "God" stop people from sinning? No "He" doesn't, but there is more than enough evidence to show that we humans have this ability.

We must be more powerful than "God".
RoSesz wrote:
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IT IS,FINISHED ..the sacrifice has been done ...what ???
We should kill calves,and lambs,now????
That is not what you first stated. You said, and restated it here, "it is finished".

If it is finished, then no further action would be required by anyone [which is an action of Self].

Well, in the least you are beginning to ask questions, which is a good thing. One cannot learn if one does not ask questions, and go on thinking that they have all the answers, when in fact, they don't. You sure don't, as you seem to be only parrotting others with what they told you.

Please post the exact teaching by Jesus that shows what you have stated. NOT PETER, NOT PAUL, NOT ANYONE except Jesus. You can do this, right? You seem very sure of yourself. Afterall, you claim "you know".

I think you lie in order to mislead others and probably to tout yourself up to let others beleive you know what you are talking about. I highly doubt you will be able to provide any teaching by Jesus that states his death "saved you" or "paid for your sins".

But keep asking the questions, it will be the only way you will learn.
RoSesz wrote:
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Why WAS,HIS LIFE FORFEIT ...
It wasn't. He basically showed that when he died, his Spirit will live on. That was the whole of his teachings. Why can't you just accept it for what it was.
RoSesz wrote:
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As,TellingTelling,ONLY UNBLEMISHED SON OF ADAM ...that's why He,was,fully human aS,well as,fully divine
And you have proof of this claim? Or are you just going to post something by some guy who had this same opinion.

Why don't you post something that has Jesus stating these characteristics are within him?

*sighs*
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484561 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Do you tithe when going to church?
..... The church usually asks for 10% of your take home income. Thats been the standard for years. I would believe catholics would be more than happy to give 10, 15 20%.
Just wondering.
Tithing is generally a protestant precept.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#484562 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
In reading the Bible I found this reference to the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic church is described in I Timothy 4:1-3 and it reads as follows:
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (KJV)
The Roman Catholic church has done and is doing the following as stated in these Bible verses ......
1. Departed from the faith
2. Given heed to seducing spirits
3. Given heed to the DOCTRINES of devils
4. Spoken lies in hypocrisy
5. Their conscience seared with a hot iron
6. Forbidding to marry
7. Commanding to abstain from meats
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth." (NLT)
Liam wrote:
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Your scavenger hunt with Bible verses doesn't add up. Clearly, Paul is describing you and the born again movement. But you're too arrogant to notice.
I'll tell you what, if Jesus Christ secretly waited to have the likes of you to convey his truth to the world, then he's a fraud anyway. And Christianity is just another man-made religion.
I hate to say it, but I believe the Bible has become you diety. I see the amount of ignorance that's required in order for someone to except your new and strange gospel. Not to mention, the non stop lies you rely on in order to debunk the Catholic Church.
Lies? You and your kind have been lied to and have perpetuated the lie of Catholicism and will be held responsible for the lost in hell by your deception and lies. Not my words but the words of Jesus.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484563 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Still.....God ..His,Son ..the Spirit ...should be your in your heart ...not bitterness,which only hurts,you ..
This is only your opinion.

You have no proof, support, evidence to allow you speak it as truth.

Shoot, when you don't even believe what Jesus teaches, I can see how your conclusion can be skewed into another thinking.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484564 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
So, based upon your logic, "sin" is irrelevant for any salvation, if Jesus already "paid for them".
You really don't know what Jesus taught, huh?
<quoted text>
Self and an action of Self.
Does "God" stop people from sinning? No "He" doesn't, but there is more than enough evidence to show that we humans have this ability.
We must be more powerful than "God".
<quoted text>
That is not what you first stated. You said, and restated it here, "it is finished".
If it is finished, then no further action would be required by anyone [which is an action of Self].
Well, in the least you are beginning to ask questions, which is a good thing. One cannot learn if one does not ask questions, and go on thinking that they have all the answers, when in fact, they don't. You sure don't, as you seem to be only parrotting others with what they told you.
Please post the exact teaching by Jesus that shows what you have stated. NOT PETER, NOT PAUL, NOT ANYONE except Jesus. You can do this, right? You seem very sure of yourself. Afterall, you claim "you know".
I think you lie in order to mislead others and probably to tout yourself up to let others beleive you know what you are talking about. I highly doubt you will be able to provide any teaching by Jesus that states his death "saved you" or "paid for your sins".
But keep asking the questions, it will be the only way you will learn.
<quoted text>
It wasn't. He basically showed that when he died, his Spirit will live on. That was the whole of his teachings. Why can't you just accept it for what it was.
<quoted text>
And you have proof of this claim? Or are you just going to post something by some guy who had this same opinion.
Why don't you post something that has Jesus stating these characteristics are within him?
*sighs*
Ok so what is it you believe ...self obviously

Based on what???
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484565 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
In reading the Bible I found this reference to the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic church is described in I Timothy 4:1-3 and it reads as follows:
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (KJV)
The Roman Catholic church has done and is doing the following as stated in these Bible verses ......
1. Departed from the faith
2. Given heed to seducing spirits
3. Given heed to the DOCTRINES of devils
4. Spoken lies in hypocrisy
5. Their conscience seared with a hot iron
6. Forbidding to marry
7. Commanding to abstain from meats
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth." (NLT)
<quoted text>
Lies? You and your kind have been lied to and have perpetuated the lie of Catholicism and will be held responsible for the lost in hell by your deception and lies. Not my words but the words of Jesus.
Lol. Keep preaching that Gospel brother!!

I think I'll stay right where I'm at for two reasons:

Jesus promised the gates of hell will never prevail against His Church.
I found the Church who organized, compiled and published the Bible.
I'm all in with the Catholic Church. You can not debunk her unless you speak falsehoods. I know, I've investigated all the silly claims by the fundamentals. It does not add up, Mr old gee. Your theology doesn't add up. It makes no sense. It requires submittal to ignorance. Got it?
So don't threaten me with hell. You're just some guy in 21st century America who has a Bible in his hand, with no clue on how it got there or what it exactly is.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484566 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Why would the writings,of the,early Cristians,be different from scripture ..
You are 're same person who said the,apostles,did NOT write because,Jesus,did not tell them to...
So asking YOU again ..we're did he scripture a come from .
You really think they were not from the apostles .
"Scriptures" were assigned by men and not the Apostles.

FYI - most of the NT was not written by the attributed person that the books have as being attributed to. Most scholars will agree that only some of the letters by "Paul" were actually written by "Paul", and that "Luke" wrote his gospel and Acts.

All other texts are by unknown authors.

If one were to start here with their questions, they will learn alot, if they research these details. They would be learning that they have been told lie after lie about Christianity.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484567 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ can only have one spouse. One faith and one fold, one truth. Right?
Okay, sure.

But if this is the case, one would have to accept all of his teachings in order to come to this conclusion, and not just a conclusion based upon a portion of his teachings, as Christianity has done.

Why don't you believe Jesus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484568 Oct 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Tithing is generally a protestant precept.
...and has nothing to do with salvation.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484569 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Lies? You and your kind have been lied to and have perpetuated the lie of Catholicism and will be held responsible for the lost in hell by your deception and lies. Not my words but the words of Jesus.
Instead of claiming Jesus said these things, post the statement instead of your opinion of such.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#484570 Oct 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Excellent post!...... Protestants "cling" to a non-biblical, non-historical (man-made myth) of Sola Ecclesia --the bible only is the Word of God, which was "never believed" by ANYONE until the 17th century...... Sola Ecclesia (or Sola Scriptura) has "no basis" of biblical or historical truth, to back it up, and is a "hodge-podge" of dogmatic Protestant opinions which total more than 42,000 contradicting beliefs.......The Catholic Christian Faith, which has been grounded in the TRUE DOCTRINE of biblical TRUTH and FAITH in Jesus Christ for over 2000 years believes in Sola Verbum Dei (THE WORD OF GOD ALONE). This WORD comes to us from Jesus HIMSELF and the Apostles through both the written and the oral tradition (2 Thess 2:15) which has been entrusted to the Church that Jesus builds upon the rock of Peter (Matthew 16:13-21. The ineffable wisdom of God is made known through HIS Church (Eph 3:9-10) Paul confirms and re-affirms this in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. There is ONLY ONE TRUTH-----not 42,000 contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting "relative truths" in which "each persons bible only opinion" is the "final authority"!!!God (is not) nor EVER HAS BEEN the author of this Protestant "rif-raf" of confusion, disorder, chaos snd disorientation!!!!!!!
Since you do not believe the Word of God...whose word do you believe????!!!!

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Since the man of God is "thoroughly furnished" by all scripture, inspired of God, unto good works....what else is necessary????!!!!

How can he be more "thoroughly furnished"????!!!!

thoroughly: completely
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#484571 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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HOJO,
The Roman Catholic churches are highly divided even within their own ranks.
The TRUTH OF DOCTRINE and TRUTH of the Gospel TEACHINGS of Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church is the has same and has been for over 2000 years. The Church "is not divided" when it comes to it TRUE TEACHINGS, TRUE INTERPRETAION OF THE BIBLE, and the TRUE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST! People within the Catholic Church, may chose not to accept all of those teachings, and that is for them to decide if they want to "remain TRUE CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS" or go their own way just like your 42,000 contradicting denominations have splintered, fractured, and divided into "relative truth" editorialists, that can't agree on "anything" so they leave and start another denominations..... That is why the Protestant Churches are (again) "all over the place" when it comes to the TRUTH of TRUE CHRISTIANITY with TRUE bible interpretation!!.....Many of these bible only "self-interpreting experts" have "sold out their souls" to their false and distorted bible teachings,(leading others astray) by accepting abortion, gay marriage, women ministers euthenasia, embroyonic stem cell research, homosexual preachers, and God only knows "what's next" depending on which way the "next gust" of political (liberal) wind, happens to blow!!!!!! I/we as Catholics will continue to follow the same TRUE teachings of Jesus Christ, as others who have (gone before us marked with the sign of TRUE FAITH) for over 2000 years, with the TRUTH (each day) in Daily Mass, the Euchsrist (Jesus' TRUE body and TRUE blood, TRUE BIBLE Interpretation and the TRUE WORD OF GOD in the homily, the Sacraments, the 24 hour Adoration prayer chapel with the Blessed Sacrament and the TRUE TEACHINGS OF Jesus Christ HIMSELF!!!We, as Catholics (ALL KNOW THE TRUTH)and it is manifested in Jesus Christ HIMSELF--in and through His Apostolic Catholic Church!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484572 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok so what is it you believe ...self obviously
Based on what???
Diversion.

My belief is not in question here.

But you are correct withthe aspect that whatever you or I believe, does require the Self.

Why don't you begin posting teachings by Jesus on salvation, instead of your own opinions?

If you were to, you would get a much better understanding of why you fail to beleive in what Jesus taught.
StarC

Whittier, CA

#484573 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
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GOOGLE catholic churches closing...and read the long list
It is no laughing matter.
Here are some lists of church closures.
6catholic churches closing.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/six...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A3_b0QhSFmUXX
12 catholic churches closing.
http://www.wishtv.com/news/local/east-central... -
closing
27 roman catholic churches closed and other merged in SE Indiana.
1)...1965 in america 180,000 nuns.......today 57,000
2)...1965 48,000 catholic priests in america....today less than 38,000
When the holiest men/women in the catholic church are not answering the call to the priest or sisterhood thats like the canary in the coal mine.
.....something is wrong.
9 dioceses in america filed bankruptcy and not any of the other 186 dicoeses lend a financial hand to help them. "your on your own boys"!
UNBELIEVABLE!
You can try all you want to discredit the Church that Jesus founded, we are still #1......love or hate it, it will always be nĂºmero uno! Thanks be to GOD!
Religion News Service
"While mainline Protestant churches in the U.S. continue to experience decades-long decline.
The Roman Catholic Church (No. 1) and the Southern Baptist Convention (No. 2) are still significantly larger than all other North American denominations."

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#484574 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Law of Christ:
"For the law was given through Moses, but ~~~~~grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."~~~~~
This is why we are under grace and NOT the Law of Moses...
You say the law of Moses was the Ten Commandments..

First...the Commandments are God's...not Mose's..
Second..if, as you say, we are no longer under the law of Moses (the Ten Commandments), that means that Christ abolished them!!!!
StarC

Whittier, CA

#484575 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you tithe when going to church?
..... The church usually asks for 10% of your take home income. Thats been the standard for years. I would believe catholics would be more than happy to give 10, 15 20%.
Just wondering.
Wrong again, Catholics are NOT obligated to give, we help those less fortunate.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#484576 Oct 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Written by Paul 300 years before Emperor Constantine created your Bible.
There are over 200 Christian Scriptures you reject.
According to your religion, Paul is a liar.
Congratulations!!!! You have just now called the Holy Spirit a liar!!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#484577 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Who's in this group of people? Who decides who's in it? Who decides what the Bible is saying?
Answering "the Holy Spirit does" is taking the ignorant- easy way out.
The Bible is not all that Christ revealed and definitely not all that the Apostles set up. If they'd done that, they most certainly would have given us a list of Biblical Books to include as well as tell us to go by the Bible alone.
There is nothing in scripture to support your theology.
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth per scripture. Not the Bible. If the Bible was the pillar and bulwark of truth, than Paul would have called the Bible as such. Instead, he called the Church it.
You can read what their Disciples wrote about what they thought the Church was, or you can ignore it and pretend your scenario is truth.
Glad to see you catlicks aligned...you are the third to call your pope a ball-face liar....congratulations!!!!!

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