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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675486 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Truth

Leesburg, VA

#484546 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
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You caught on that Liam is really Clay, who use to be CLAYPOOL who also goes by WILLIAM.....
ReginaM. first stated she was from Clarence NJ, then East Rutherford NJ, now goes by REGINA with no M. from USA.
I'm keeping up!
Don't fall behind, Michael....

It is too hard to catch up....LOL....
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#484547 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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HOJO,
By you stating the same thing over and over again, it seems like you are trying to convince yourself of these posts....
Hardly the case!! The TRUTH needs to be repeated, over and over and over again to bible only "fundies" like, you, so that "hopefully and prayerfully, it might (just somehow-just maybe) sink into that (anti-catholic distorted and twisted mind, heart and soul of yours!!..... I was raised in a bible only contradicting and mis-directed half-truth, half-heresy Protestant church, for over 35 years that was "all over the place" (just like all of you fundies are" when it came to interpreting the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the bible, until the Holy Spirit (through Jesus Christ) "thankfully" eventually led to the TRUTH of the TRUE Salvation in Jesus Christ (in and through His Catholic Church! I don't need to convince myself of ANYTHING HERE because I already know (without a doubt) the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH History and the TRUE AUTHENTICATED ,VERIFABLE TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of the bible!! You bible only (half-truth Christians) continue to row around in circles in your bible only boat of confusion, chaos, contradicting and inconsistencies!!!!! You can have it !!!!! It is all yours!!!!!
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484548 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
You caught on that Liam is really Clay, who use to be CLAYPOOL who also goes by WILLIAM.....
ReginaM. first stated she was from Clarence NJ, then East Rutherford NJ, now goes by REGINA with no M. from USA.
I'm keeping up!
I've said plenty of times that I'm clay. Nobody needs to 'catch on' when I make it clear.
Right, Thomas?
marge

Leesburg, GA

#484549 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Clay,
You are too funny.....
The Word of God defines the church "CALLED OUT"....
1 Peter 2:9-10
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that ~~~~~you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.~~~~~
10 Once you were NOT a people, but NOW (PRESENT) you are the PEOPLE OF GOD; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
*****you may DECLARE the praises of HIM WHO CALLED YOU OUT of darkness INTO HIS wonderful light.....
*****"CALLED YOU OUT"*****God's people...SAVED....
*****HIS WONDERFUL LIGHT.....Jesus, the Word of God.....
*****NOW (PRESENT) you are WHO????
*****THE PEOPLE OF GOD....
Again, the Word of God defines the PEOPLE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
The PEOPLE OF GOD does NOT define the Word of God!!!!!!!!!!
well aren't you full of clear explanations these days.
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484550 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay,
You are too funny.....
The Word of God defines the church "CALLED OUT"....
1 Peter 2:9-10
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that ~~~~~you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.~~~~~
10 Once you were NOT a people, but NOW (PRESENT) you are the PEOPLE OF GOD; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
*****you may DECLARE the praises of HIM WHO CALLED YOU OUT of darkness INTO HIS wonderful light.....
*****"CALLED YOU OUT"*****God's people...SAVED....
*****HIS WONDERFUL LIGHT.....Jesus, the Word of God.....
*****NOW (PRESENT) you are WHO????
*****THE PEOPLE OF GOD....
Again, the Word of God defines the PEOPLE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
The PEOPLE OF GOD does NOT define the Word of God!!!!!!!!!!
And in your opinion, why wasn't Ignatius 'called out'?
How about Clement, Lynus, Sixtus, or fabian?

Clement and Ignatius knew the Apostles personally. Their writings are completely opposite of yours. What happened?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#484551 Oct 24, 2013
Ephesians 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") and gave himself up for her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT")

26 to make her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") holy, cleansing her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") by the washing with water through the word,(Jesus-as Jesus is the Word of God)

27 and to present her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-CALLED OUT) to HIMSELF as a radiant church,(GROUP OF PEOPLE) without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.(SAVED - baptized into Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection)

***by the washing with WATER THROUGH THE WORD (JESUS)....baptized into the FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT)

Do you see NOW why the Gospel of Jesus Christ is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY???

Do you see NOW why the Word of God (Jesus) is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY????

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484552 Oct 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
If Christianity or Islam is correct, then I would rather burn in hell than spend eternity with any of you ignorant and deceitful theists.
~~~

I guess you will get your desire...as will as the rest of the religious that think that they can write their own road map...through heaven's gates

They would rather die and go to eternal separation from God

than strive to be obedient to His word ...

Just like yourself...

What they enjoy here on earth is ...all they have...to look forward to
as the follow their POPE...

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

NOTE
Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited,

if he shall gain the whole world, and

lose his own soul? or

what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484553 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Jesus is not "God"
- please post the exact passage that has Jesus stating "I am God."
Jesus can do anythign, but "God" can't stop a 14 year old from stabbing a teacher, or protecting children so they don't freeze to death. Right?
You have a very odd sense of reality. Well, maybe it is because you would prefer to lie about "knowing God".
Why is it that you cannot be honest and admit that you, like any human, can honestly say we don't know "God"?
Why do you want to lie to yourself? Is this comforting for you?
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is not "God"
ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE BELOW ...IN GOD'S EYES YOU ARE ANTICHRIST
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
NOTE
1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
"IN GOD'S EYES YOU ARE ANTICHRIST"
- 1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

a. I am not any anti-Christ, although I do deny that Jesus was any "Christ". I don't believe he rose in bodily form. Or if he did, it would mean that he was not dead to begin with.

Why do you feel the need to make up lies about me and what I believe or don't?

BTW - how is it that you know what "God" sees - as related to me?

Are you quoting from the "Gospel according to GiF", again?

You know something GiF, between you lying and your wife lying, I am not really sure on how either of you even have a following to preach too.

It is quite sad and telling in how much you both mislead others.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#484554 Oct 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly the case!! The TRUTH needs to be repeated, over and over and over again to bible only "fundies" like, you, so that "hopefully and prayerfully, it might (just somehow-just maybe) sink into that (anti-catholic distorted and twisted mind, heart and soul of yours!!..... I was raised in a bible only contradicting and mis-directed half-truth, half-heresy Protestant church, for over 35 years that was "all over the place" (just like all of you fundies are" when it came to interpreting the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the bible, until the Holy Spirit (through Jesus Christ) "thankfully" eventually led to the TRUTH of the TRUE Salvation in Jesus Christ (in and through His Catholic Church! I don't need to convince myself of ANYTHING HERE because I already know (without a doubt) the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH History and the TRUE AUTHENTICATED ,VERIFABLE TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of the bible!! You bible only (half-truth Christians) continue to row around in circles in your bible only boat of confusion, chaos, contradicting and inconsistencies!!!!! You can have it !!!!! It is all yours!!!!!
HOJO,

It is really very simple....only through scripture can you have unity!

The Roman Catholic churches are highly divided even within their own ranks.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#484555 Oct 24, 2013
marge wrote:
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well aren't you full of clear explanations these days.
Glad you appreciate it, Marge....LOL....
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484556 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Don't fall behind, Michael....
It is too hard to catch up....LOL....
The only thing that's hard to catch up on are the dozen or so interpretations of the Bible coming from the Evangelical fundamental representatives on here.
For the longest time i assumed you were Catholic because you corrected all the ministers on here. Your theology seems a bit different then them. Are you a Minister too?
Funny how not one Minister will reveal what sect they belong to and will not reveal their names either. The Catholic Priest that came of here revealed his true name and also his email address in case anyone wanted to call or write him.

In my opinion, if someone is going to stand up and claim they are an authority on sacred scripture, perhaps you ought to identify yourself.

Personally, I could care less if one of you showed up at my house and stabbed me. If that's the way I'm goin out, then so be it.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484557 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
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And in your opinion, why wasn't Ignatius 'called out'?
How about Clement, Lynus, Sixtus, or fabian?
Clement and Ignatius knew the Apostles personally. Their writings are completely opposite of yours. What happened?
Why would the writings,of the,early Cristians,be different from scripture ..

You are 're same person who said the,apostles,did NOT write because,Jesus,did not tell them to...

So asking YOU again ..we're did he scripture a come from .

You really think they were not from the apostles .
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484558 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Well! that is good news.
..... Maybe its time the prospering dioceses stopped being islands unto yourselves and offered financial help to the failing 9 dioceses in america. Another special collection maybe once a month to assist those that are faltering. Will it happen? Not likely. "I'm OK Jack but too bad for you" attitude.
Unions across america/canada assist each other when in need, why not catholic churches/dioceses helping those dioceses that are struggling. If its happening let me know.
They generally don't run surpluses, so there isn't extra cash laying round that isn't earmarked.
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484559 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
Ephesians 5:25-27
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") and gave himself up for her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT")
26 to make her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") holy, cleansing her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-"CALLED OUT") by the washing with water through the word,(Jesus-as Jesus is the Word of God)
27 and to present her (GROUP OF PEOPLE-CALLED OUT) to HIMSELF as a radiant church,(GROUP OF PEOPLE) without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.(SAVED - baptized into Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection)
***by the washing with WATER THROUGH THE WORD (JESUS)....baptized into the FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT)
Do you see NOW why the Gospel of Jesus Christ is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY???
Do you see NOW why the Word of God (Jesus) is VERY IMPORTANT and NECESSARY????
Well, the Catholic Church are a group of people called out. That's how you have a Bible to beat them over the head with. Your scripture analogy above, vindicates the Catholic Church.
Christ can only have one spouse. One faith and one fold, one truth. Right?
Your scenario that its a misc group of people that are the bride of Christ makes Him out to be a polygamist.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484560 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

So, based upon your logic, "sin" is irrelevant for any salvation, if Jesus already "paid for them".
You really don't know what Jesus taught, huh?
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
We,MUST REPENT ..live in Christ ..make every effort to not Sin again ..
Self and an action of Self.

Does "God" stop people from sinning? No "He" doesn't, but there is more than enough evidence to show that we humans have this ability.

We must be more powerful than "God".
RoSesz wrote:
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IT IS,FINISHED ..the sacrifice has been done ...what ???
We should kill calves,and lambs,now????
That is not what you first stated. You said, and restated it here, "it is finished".

If it is finished, then no further action would be required by anyone [which is an action of Self].

Well, in the least you are beginning to ask questions, which is a good thing. One cannot learn if one does not ask questions, and go on thinking that they have all the answers, when in fact, they don't. You sure don't, as you seem to be only parrotting others with what they told you.

Please post the exact teaching by Jesus that shows what you have stated. NOT PETER, NOT PAUL, NOT ANYONE except Jesus. You can do this, right? You seem very sure of yourself. Afterall, you claim "you know".

I think you lie in order to mislead others and probably to tout yourself up to let others beleive you know what you are talking about. I highly doubt you will be able to provide any teaching by Jesus that states his death "saved you" or "paid for your sins".

But keep asking the questions, it will be the only way you will learn.
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Why WAS,HIS LIFE FORFEIT ...
It wasn't. He basically showed that when he died, his Spirit will live on. That was the whole of his teachings. Why can't you just accept it for what it was.
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
As,TellingTelling,ONLY UNBLEMISHED SON OF ADAM ...that's why He,was,fully human aS,well as,fully divine
And you have proof of this claim? Or are you just going to post something by some guy who had this same opinion.

Why don't you post something that has Jesus stating these characteristics are within him?

*sighs*
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484561 Oct 24, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you tithe when going to church?
..... The church usually asks for 10% of your take home income. Thats been the standard for years. I would believe catholics would be more than happy to give 10, 15 20%.
Just wondering.
Tithing is generally a protestant precept.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#484562 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
In reading the Bible I found this reference to the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic church is described in I Timothy 4:1-3 and it reads as follows:
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (KJV)
The Roman Catholic church has done and is doing the following as stated in these Bible verses ......
1. Departed from the faith
2. Given heed to seducing spirits
3. Given heed to the DOCTRINES of devils
4. Spoken lies in hypocrisy
5. Their conscience seared with a hot iron
6. Forbidding to marry
7. Commanding to abstain from meats
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth." (NLT)
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Your scavenger hunt with Bible verses doesn't add up. Clearly, Paul is describing you and the born again movement. But you're too arrogant to notice.
I'll tell you what, if Jesus Christ secretly waited to have the likes of you to convey his truth to the world, then he's a fraud anyway. And Christianity is just another man-made religion.
I hate to say it, but I believe the Bible has become you diety. I see the amount of ignorance that's required in order for someone to except your new and strange gospel. Not to mention, the non stop lies you rely on in order to debunk the Catholic Church.
Lies? You and your kind have been lied to and have perpetuated the lie of Catholicism and will be held responsible for the lost in hell by your deception and lies. Not my words but the words of Jesus.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484563 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Still.....God ..His,Son ..the Spirit ...should be your in your heart ...not bitterness,which only hurts,you ..
This is only your opinion.

You have no proof, support, evidence to allow you speak it as truth.

Shoot, when you don't even believe what Jesus teaches, I can see how your conclusion can be skewed into another thinking.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484564 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
So, based upon your logic, "sin" is irrelevant for any salvation, if Jesus already "paid for them".
You really don't know what Jesus taught, huh?
<quoted text>
Self and an action of Self.
Does "God" stop people from sinning? No "He" doesn't, but there is more than enough evidence to show that we humans have this ability.
We must be more powerful than "God".
<quoted text>
That is not what you first stated. You said, and restated it here, "it is finished".
If it is finished, then no further action would be required by anyone [which is an action of Self].
Well, in the least you are beginning to ask questions, which is a good thing. One cannot learn if one does not ask questions, and go on thinking that they have all the answers, when in fact, they don't. You sure don't, as you seem to be only parrotting others with what they told you.
Please post the exact teaching by Jesus that shows what you have stated. NOT PETER, NOT PAUL, NOT ANYONE except Jesus. You can do this, right? You seem very sure of yourself. Afterall, you claim "you know".
I think you lie in order to mislead others and probably to tout yourself up to let others beleive you know what you are talking about. I highly doubt you will be able to provide any teaching by Jesus that states his death "saved you" or "paid for your sins".
But keep asking the questions, it will be the only way you will learn.
<quoted text>
It wasn't. He basically showed that when he died, his Spirit will live on. That was the whole of his teachings. Why can't you just accept it for what it was.
<quoted text>
And you have proof of this claim? Or are you just going to post something by some guy who had this same opinion.
Why don't you post something that has Jesus stating these characteristics are within him?
*sighs*
Ok so what is it you believe ...self obviously

Based on what???
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484565 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
In reading the Bible I found this reference to the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic church is described in I Timothy 4:1-3 and it reads as follows:
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (KJV)
The Roman Catholic church has done and is doing the following as stated in these Bible verses ......
1. Departed from the faith
2. Given heed to seducing spirits
3. Given heed to the DOCTRINES of devils
4. Spoken lies in hypocrisy
5. Their conscience seared with a hot iron
6. Forbidding to marry
7. Commanding to abstain from meats
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth." (NLT)
<quoted text>
Lies? You and your kind have been lied to and have perpetuated the lie of Catholicism and will be held responsible for the lost in hell by your deception and lies. Not my words but the words of Jesus.
Lol. Keep preaching that Gospel brother!!

I think I'll stay right where I'm at for two reasons:

Jesus promised the gates of hell will never prevail against His Church.
I found the Church who organized, compiled and published the Bible.
I'm all in with the Catholic Church. You can not debunk her unless you speak falsehoods. I know, I've investigated all the silly claims by the fundamentals. It does not add up, Mr old gee. Your theology doesn't add up. It makes no sense. It requires submittal to ignorance. Got it?
So don't threaten me with hell. You're just some guy in 21st century America who has a Bible in his hand, with no clue on how it got there or what it exactly is.

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