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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687276 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484383 Oct 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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No problem for you, you left. I think you have a huge axe to grind with the Catholic Church Mike, you should probably seek counseling. And maybe we should have your computer hard drive checked out while we're at it.
And has no one but me thought there might be a reason .

I left ..I don't agree with some things .

I never stopped believing in God .

I still occasionally attend a mass .

I do not HATE the Church ...nor GOD ...

Certain subjects hit me personally...on those I am passionate .
MICHAEL is passionate on this .

My posts to him.yesterday ..we're about SINFUL PEOPLE. Are NOT GOD ...
nor do they act on His behalf .

No matter which CHURCH did what....young people or their families or friends were HURT ...And may blame God .

That's why I kept talking about victims ..

And prayers for them

JUST an observation.

Maybe he knows someone who was hurt ???

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484384 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Clay:
You don't have to answer my posts. Its obvious you are another with his head in the sand just hoping this will all just go away.
Lets talk about the other big vatican scandal that involves MONEY LAUNDERING.
Are you going to say I am making this up?
http://rt.com/news/vatican-mafia-laundering-m...
Don't you believe people have a right to know what is going on in their church.....good and bad?
You just want everyone to sit around holding hands singing KUM-BY-YA and pretend nothing is going on.
I bring the news that catholics should know about but don't want to know about.
Michael. Ill say again ..the bad priests in the CC are not GOD the father
Those who did wrong ...we're NOT doing His,Will.

And HE is the only comfort in a dark world ..

Hat goes for bad ministers ..

BUT YOU were Catholic ..maybe you know a kid that go hurt..

That dies not mean God Wanted it to happen .

Jesus gave special warning o those who.turn children away FROM HIM ..

He wants US,to love Him..
Michael

Canada

#484385 Oct 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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No problem for you, you left. I think you have a huge axe to grind with the Catholic Church Mike, you should probably seek counseling. And maybe we should have your computer hard drive checked out while we're at it.
The very men who taught you and I that we could not receive holy communion with grave sins on our souls. Sins such as lieing, deceiving, and covering up sin, often for years! yet these very same priests/bishops who told us no eucharist, gave themselves the eucharist at EVERY mass they said everyday, without repentance.

You ok with that?

Michael

Canada

#484386 Oct 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Michael. Ill say again ..the bad priests in the CC are not GOD the father
Those who did wrong ...we're NOT doing His,Will.
And HE is the only comfort in a dark world ..
Hat goes for bad ministers ..
BUT YOU were Catholic ..maybe you know a kid that go hurt..
That dies not mean God Wanted it to happen .
Jesus gave special warning o those who.turn children away FROM HIM ..
He wants US,to love Him..
Its obvious much of what the church teaches is not correct. NO all loving God would allow such crap to go on in his organization under his command.

History tells us there have been many bad popes. Popes that the church elected by the cardinals, and the church claims the holy spirit (god) guides the cardinals in choosing the pope.

........doesn't make any common sense.



Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484387 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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I who have done no wrong, am criticized for informing others of those who have done much wrong, yet no criticism of them.
8 roman catholic dioceses have filed for bankruptcy in america in the past 10 years as a result of their wrong doings. Thats nearly 1,000 parishes.
... if the church leaders had been living the same moral life that they preach to you, I would have nothing to report about them.
HIPOCRICY!
that is HUGE!
Making presumptive statements sans support isn't "informing" anyone of anything.
Michael

Canada

#484388 Oct 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
No problem for you, you left. I think you have a huge axe to grind with the Catholic Church Mike, you should probably seek counseling. And maybe we should have your computer hard drive checked out while we're at it.
No axe to grind. Just passing on FACTUAL information that digusts me.

This information below is just from last month Sept 2013.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/calif-...

Why don't you start blaming those that created this problem instead of me who has done no wrong?

Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484389 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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The very men who taught you and I that we could not receive holy communion with grave sins on our souls. Sins such as lieing, deceiving, and covering up sin, often for years! yet these very same priests/bishops who told us no eucharist, gave themselves the eucharist at EVERY mass they said everyday, without repentance.
You ok with that?
Now, your all-seeing eye goes from what most of all Catholics did or didn't do RE: the scandal to the confessional habits of priests.

You have no idea whether or not they were repentant.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484390 Oct 23, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Don't see where it says two commandments hung the prophets!!!!
~~~
No one said

Two commandments hung the prophets...

You must be kidding...

No Christian should really have such a lack of understanding
of the scriptures...

There is something you can do about it though...

The Bible says...

Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Jas 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Jas 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Michael

Canada

#484391 Oct 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Anthony did not say this, the John Jay College of Criminal Justice said it. I cited the source.
Michael did not say this, Patrick Wall said it. You plagiarized it from Richard Sipe's website.
Are you saying you don't believe the canon laws and papal documents of your own church that outline what has been going on for 17 centuries?

Are you saying the church does not have these canon laws regarding this most serious issue?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484392 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
I who have done no wrong, am criticized for informing others of those who have done much wrong, yet no criticism of them.
8 roman catholic dioceses have filed for bankruptcy in america in the past 10 years as a result of their wrong doings. Thats nearly 1,000 parishes.
... if the church leaders had been living the same moral life that they preach to you, I would have nothing to report about them.
HIPOCRICY!
that is HUGE!

~~~

YOU WROTE

I who have done no wrong, am criticized for informing others of those who have done much wrong, yet no criticism of them.

I am glad that you still admit that there is such a thing as DOING WRONG

IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT A FULL BLOWN ATHEIST...

and there is still hope for you

TO AN ATHEIST THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WRONG...

IT IS NEITHER ... BLACK... NOR WHITE...ONLY GRAY
Michael

Canada

#484393 Oct 23, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Making presumptive statements sans support isn't "informing" anyone of anything.
Dan says..........making presumptive statements.

Michael says.......no! I post factual information. I stated 8 dioceses in america have filed for bankruptcy in the past 10 years regarding abuse scandal costs. I list them below.

1) archdiocese of Portland Oregon
2) diocese of Milwaukee Wi.
3) diocese of Davenport Iowa
4) diocese of Spokane Wa.
5) diocese of Fairbanks Alaska
6) diocese of Wilminton Deleware
7) Oregon province of the society of jesus
8) diocese of Tucson Arizona

http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/milw...

here is #9 that was recorded September 2013 Diocese of New Mexico bankruptcy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/us-...

......again tell me what I am posting is incorrect as you imply?

I bring the news you don't know. The news you don't want to know. The news everyone should know.
Michael

Canada

#484394 Oct 23, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Michael wrote:
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I who have done no wrong, am criticized for informing others of those who have done much wrong, yet no criticism of them.
8 roman catholic dioceses have filed for bankruptcy in america in the past 10 years as a result of their wrong doings. Thats nearly 1,000 parishes.
... if the church leaders had been living the same moral life that they preach to you, I would have nothing to report about them.
HIPOCRICY!
that is HUGE!
~~~
YOU WROTE
I who have done no wrong, am criticized for informing others of those who have done much wrong, yet no criticism of them.
I am glad that you still admit that there is such a thing as DOING WRONG
IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT A FULL BLOWN ATHEIST...
and there is still hope for you
TO AN ATHEIST THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WRONG...
IT IS NEITHER ... BLACK... NOR WHITE...ONLY GRAY
I am sure there are millions of atheists who live a better moral life than yourself in many respects.

Its too bad you have a biased.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484395 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Dan says..........making presumptive statements.
Michael says.......no! I post factual information. I stated 8 dioceses in america have filed for bankruptcy in the past 10 years regarding abuse scandal costs. I list them below.
1) archdiocese of Portland Oregon
2) diocese of Milwaukee Wi.
3) diocese of Davenport Iowa
4) diocese of Spokane Wa.
5) diocese of Fairbanks Alaska
6) diocese of Wilminton Deleware
7) Oregon province of the society of jesus
8) diocese of Tucson Arizona
http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/milw...
here is #9 that was recorded September 2013 Diocese of New Mexico bankruptcy.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/us-...
......again tell me what I am posting is incorrect as you imply?
I bring the news you don't know. The news you don't want to know. The news everyone should know.
Sure.

Let us know how each Catholic in each diocese reacted to the scandal, noting precisely what they did or didn't say or do. Your statement was that none said anything.

Also, you'll provide transcripts from each cleric's confessions detailing where they were never repentant (your assertion made) for any role they may have played in said scandals.
Michael

Canada

#484396 Oct 23, 2013
I post the information that you said isn't true, but it is true, and you give me negative judgies.

Its obvious you have an axe to grind with anyone who doesn't think just like you.

9 roman catholic dioceses filed for bankruptcy. That is a huge problem.

Remember its you that give the bishops their money. If they were doing what they were suppose to be doing, there would be no victims and lawsuits.



“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484397 Oct 23, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Orthodox
The Christian ought to be so minded as becomes his heavenly calling, and his life and conversation ought to be worthy of the Gospel of Christ.
He ought not to speak evil; to do violence; to fight; to avenge himself; to return evil for evil; to be angry.
The Christian ought to be patient, whatever he have to suffer, and to convict the wrong-doer in season, not with the desire of his own vindication, but of his brother's reformation, according to the commandment of the Lord.
The Christian ought not to say anything behind his brother's back with the object of calumniating him, for this is slander, even if what is said is true.
He ought to turn away from the brother who speaks evil against him.
The Christian ought not to seek for honor or claim precedence. Every one ought to put all others before himself.
He who shows another to be wrong ought to do so with all tenderness, in the fear of God, and with the object of converting the sinner.
Every one ought, as far as he is able, to conciliate one who has ground of complaint against him. No one ought to cherish a grudge against the sinner who repents, but heartily to forgive him.
He who says that he has repented of a sin ought not only to be pricked with compunction for his sin, but also to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance
A Christian ought not to wait for an opportunity for his own amendment, because there is no certainty about the morrow.
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Basil the Great
I find it hard to understand sometimes, how one person's opinion of a so-called "Christian" is not necessarily anothers'.

Let's see all the qualifications "required" to be a "Christian" as per your post:
a. ought to be so minded as becomes his heavenly calling
b. his life and conversation ought to be worthy of the Gospel of Christ
c. not to speak evil; to do violence; to fight; to avenge himself; to return evil for evil; to be angry
d. ought to be patient
e. to convict the wrong-doer in season, not with the desire of his own vindication, but of his brother's reformation, according to the commandment of the Lord
f. ought not to say anything behind his brother's back with the object of calumniating him, for this is slander, even if what is said is true
g. ought to turn away from the brother who speaks evil against him.
h. ought not to seek for honor or claim precedence
i. ought to put all others before himself
j. shows another to be wrong ought to do so with all tenderness, in the fear of God, and with the object of converting the sinner
k. one ought, as far as he is able, to conciliate one who has ground of complaint against him
l. No one ought to cherish a grudge against the sinner who repents, but heartily to forgive him.
m. He who says that he has repented of a sin ought not only to be pricked with compunction for his sin, but also to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance
n. ought not to wait for an opportunity for his own amendment, because there is no certainty about the morrow.

WOW - that is alot of qualifications, in addition to the many others that people have claimed as "Christian", like:
- faith in "God" and Jesus
- worshipping "God"
- love one another
- good works towards others
- kindness
- must be Catholic, according to some

Let's see how many of these requires another person to complete the task and become "Christian". Let's see......nope, not that one, nor that one, nor that one, nor that one.

Wait a minute Herme. All of these require the actions of a person - their Self.

Are you trying to change the rules of what a "Christian" is?

Yes Herme - they all require Self.

Thank you for proving my point.

Why do you think most so-called "Christians" refuse to beleive that they are the catalyst to salvation, not some religion or what other men have stated?

They must not be able to think for themselves.
Michael

Canada

#484398 Oct 23, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Now, your all-seeing eye goes from what most of all Catholics did or didn't do RE: the scandal to the confessional habits of priests.
You have no idea whether or not they were repentant.
There are many documented cases of priests/bishops that offended over and over. The priests and bishops who knew of these offences and did nothing covering up these sins, over and over doesn't mean they can pop into the confessional themselves and keep telling the same sin over and over without being heartly sorry for that sin.

If you are covering up sins for years and they did because no one dialed 9-1-1. then they are not very honest, and being deceitful.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#484399 Oct 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Are you saying you don't believe the canon laws and papal documents of your own church that outline what has been going on for 17 centuries?
Are you saying the church does not have these canon laws regarding this most serious issue?
The Catholic Church has been preaching and teaching against immoral behaviour for 17 centuries?

What is this world coming to???

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484400 Oct 23, 2013
Liam wrote:
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In fact, that's why every allegation is smeared on the secular news today.
OOPS!!

Don't you mean SF, California, like your avatar shows??

*sighs*
Michael

Canada

#484401 Oct 23, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Sure.
Let us know how each Catholic in each diocese reacted to the scandal, noting precisely what they did or didn't say or do. Your statement was that none said anything.
Also, you'll provide transcripts from each cleric's confessions detailing where they were never repentant (your assertion made) for any role they may have played in said scandals.
you just keep making up excuses for bad behavior. What does that say about you?

If a clergy member who was abusing a child repetatively is being honest and tells another priest his confession of wrong doing. The priest who hears the confession should be instructing the offending priests to stop committing such crimes immediately.

Its obvious that NEVER HAPPENED! no one became accountable.

I am sure if I went to a priest and told him I stole an item from a store, I am sure any good priest would tell me as part of my penance to return the item and inform the shop keeper of my bad deed and I WON'T DO IT AGAIN.

Too bad the clergy didn't do the same when they did wrong.

Everything was kept secret. That is not living the moral life they teach us to live.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#484402 Oct 23, 2013

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