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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 703505 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#482074 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
**why doesn't it say, "except for Mary"? How does the pope who came up with this doctrine get around this verse?
Why is ok for you guys to make exceptions to the "all have sinned" rule and not Catholics?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#482075 Oct 14, 2013
who="Michael ]<quoted text>
What was the purpose of the talking serpent story, and Eve eating from the wrong tree of knowledge if God knew long before mankind would fail?
Why create mankind with a sinful nature in the first place?
None of the Genesis stories makes any common sense.

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You amaze me, friend. You are smarter than God. Why don't you solve all the world's problems?

You could start out with correcting the 'fuss' on Topix, and we could all get along.:):):)

KayMarie
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#482076 Oct 14, 2013
Part of the rosary:

“Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.”

**And then part of the explanation of this prayer:
God has given her all His graces for us. They come from God through Mary(DID U READ THAT...THROUGH MARY). All we need to do is ask for them with a humble, loving, and contrite heart.

**God's graces come from Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ.

** To say that God has given her all His graces for us. They come from God through Mary is a lie from the pit of Hell.
Peter Paul and Mary

Universal City, TX

#482077 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Repetitious prayers does not mean you are repeating them. Find out what it means and we'll talk. Otherwise you're babbling like Tony.
CatholicBridge.com :
Repetitious prayers?

Some Evangelicals think the verse, "Do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do" (Mat 6:7 - NRSV) condemns repetitious prayers. But let's look at it. The key words here are "empty" and "Gentiles." The Gentiles prayed to pagan Gods, their prayers were empty, insincere and blasphemous. The verse is a condemnation of empty prayers to pagan gods. I don't think this passage is a condemnation of repetition. The Greek word is "Battologeo", which comes from "Battos," a stammerer. Someone who stutters or uses meaningless syllables. This would apply much more to "speaking in tongues" than repeating a great prayer.

The word "repetition" is not mentioned in most translations of the verse. One could "heap up" empty "free form" praises (that don't repeat) as easily as one could "heap up" a repeating phrase from Scripture. The crucial thing is not whether a phrase repeats, but rather whether it is sincere.

Two verses later Jesus gives us the Lord's Prayer (Mat 6:9). This is a main prayer in Catholic prayer life. It is neither empty or pagan. It is Holy and honorable and worth repeating because it has meaning.

Are not many of the beautiful traditional Protestant hymns repetitious? What about the repetition of "Praise God" during free form worship in Assemblies? Even the angels are eternally in the presence of God repeating "Holy, Holy, Holy (Rev 4:8). This is not empty nor pagan is it? It pleases God. When I do the Rosary, I'm sincere. I'm saying very meaningful prayers that come from Scripture. I think this makes Jesus immensely happy and He has given me the experience of his love consistently during the Rosary to prove it.

Jesus is not and never was ashamed of the reverence given to His Mother. If you are ashamed and think that it takes away from our Glory to God, then it is your own human ideals of what God has inspired us to exalt of all that is holy and worthy of being venerated. My honoring Mary the Mother of Jesus, and therefore the Mother of God (if you believe in who and what is the Holy Trinity) honors God Himself. That is my belief, it has always been and will always be. Neither you nor anyone on this thread can take that away from me. That is where I find comfort and joy. No matter what you say or what any (non Christian or non Catholic says) will ever take away my faith that the Holy Spirit has bestowed upon my very being and soul.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#482078 Oct 14, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Do you mock your Catholic relatives too?
Did you accuse me of having snide comments towards you maybe a month or so ago? Yes you did and you remember it.

And then you make fun of my spelling...you are a hypocrite along with your friend Regina.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#482079 Oct 14, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Why is ok for you guys to make exceptions to the "all have sinned" rule and not Catholics?
So why doesn't it say except for Mary?
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#482080 Oct 14, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Do you think Jesus approves of you mocking people who offer sincere heartfelt prayers to Him and His mother?
Jesus doesn't know folks who do not a relationship with Him. So I guess it doesn't bother Him (I'm guessing though)

I think Jesus might say, "why would someone pray to my Mother. I'm the one who died for their sins!! I could be wrong though....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#482081 Oct 14, 2013
who="Husker Du" <quoted text>The rosary has seven Our Fathers, fifty three Hail Mary's , seven Glory Be's One Apostles Creed, One Hail Holy Queen. Now there are four different Mysteries to think on when saying the rosary, now add 28 more Our Fathers etc, you do the math. I would say meditating on Christ saying the Our Father seven times per day and fifty three Hail Mary's , Glory be Apostles Creed, Hail Holy Queen and the Fatima prayer after each decade, makes a powerful petition to Christ.

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Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions (repeats), as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

FIFTY THREE Hail Mary's ??? TWENTY EIGHT OUR FATHERS???
Why (I know the answer) does Mary get nearly twice the greetings that Our Father gets???

IF I met a friend, and they said, "Hello, KayMarie fifty three times", I would wonder what was wrong with them.

Vain, indeed...

KayMarie

P.S. Hail is a common greeting...or farewell...that is used for Mary ONE time. She is said to be full of grace (charis...root of charismatic...God's grace). All of the Apostles and women in the Upper Room were filled with Gods 'charis'(Holy Ghost). Peter declared that that gift is "to you and your children, AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL CALL."
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#482082 Oct 14, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Sorry for embarrassing you, I promise the next time you mock Catholics I'll try to overlook your spelling errors. I just thought if you were going to ridicule altar boys, priests and the mass you should at least know how to spell it correctly.
You didn't embarrass me. You can make fun of me all you want Tony. I just find it funny you accuse me of snide comments towards you and then you make fun of me. Don't whine about it next time it happens...k?
Peter Paul and Mary

Universal City, TX

#482084 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
**why doesn't it say, "except for Mary"? How does the pope who came up with this doctrine get around this verse?
Why doesn't it say except for Adam and Eve in the beginning?
Peter Paul and Mary

Universal City, TX

#482086 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Jesus doesn't know folks who do not a relationship with Him. So I guess it doesn't bother Him (I'm guessing though)
I think Jesus might say, "why would someone pray to my Mother. I'm the one who died for their sins!! I could be wrong though....
"why would someone pray to my Mother". We don't pray to HIS Mother, we ask her to intercede for us. It is biblical, look it up and then we can talk. Oh wait, maybe those books were taken out of your Bible.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#482089 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Did you accuse me of having snide comments towards you maybe a month or so ago? Yes you did and you remember it.
And then you make fun of my spelling...you are a hypocrite along with your friend Regina.
As I said, I made note of your mistake as you were mocking and ridiculing altar boys, priests and the mass. If nothing else, I'd have thought you'd at least feel some shame in that. Not sure what kind of protestantism you joined up with, but it's not the kind of group I'd be proud of.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#482090 Oct 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
Part of the rosary:
“Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.”
**And then part of the explanation of this prayer:
God has given her all His graces for us. They come from God through Mary(DID U READ THAT...THROUGH MARY). All we need to do is ask for them with a humble, loving, and contrite heart.
**God's graces come from Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ.
** To say that God has given her all His graces for us. They come from God through Mary is a lie from the pit of Hell.
How did Our Lord Jesus Christ come to us? Through the womb of Mary. Mary said yes to God and He entered this world through the Blessed Mother. Is this a lie from the pit of Hell?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#482091 Oct 14, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>See how rose gerts off topic when we debate .
you got a thing for rose dont you? Everyone here at one time or another has got off topix here.And it was I also that was off topix and so was Preston, Thunder, and a few others talking about computers and phones but you fail to mention the rest of us...you would do better if you stick to what you know and stop the personal attacks on her. I know they dont teach that in your church.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#482092 Oct 14, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>When saying the rosary, you meditate on Christ's life, but maybe that is too hard for you to understand. I guess that is why people call some protestants fundies, you can't understand many things.
Your first sentance was beautiful the rest shows your arrogance.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#482093 Oct 14, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Satan loves how you post about the rosary, you make Satan proud. Shame on you.
And satans is also proud of your post also...when pointing fingers you have to make sure your hands are clean also...
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#482094 Oct 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Take your CRS pill...you have already said that...
Take a pill yourself. I'm quoting you, or did you forget.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#482095 Oct 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are way out....far far away in a dense fog...
This thread has nothing to do with corrupt communication..
Has nothing to do with prayers being edifying...
The Pharisees were also not ashamed to pray on the street corners to be seen by men.
You have lost it!!!!
"Some of the most dangerous people in the world are religious zealots."

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#482096 Oct 14, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Since you said you were Catholic at one time, ANSWER THIS. Christ IS the Eucharist. Wouldn't you think someone who receives Christ and is reverant has a better chance at Heaven than someone who reads passages in the bible and doesn't ever enter a church ? What about visiting Christ at a Eucharistic Holy Hour and reading the bible then, in the presence of Christ. What about just talking to Christ during the Eucharisatic Visitation? Why did you quit believing Christ is present during this time? Have you ever spent time visiting Christ when the Eucharist is present? Did you receive First Communion and receive Christ? Why did you quit believing? was it because the Church is against the pill and you wanted to have fun and not get pregnant like you quoted so many times before on the abortion forums?
You think because you are in the TRUE Church and recieve the Eucharist that you are holier than Rose? your behavoir towards her shows that you are far less a christian than she is.Think again...why rose left your Chruch is none of your business and she has explained it many times in the past why she left. Your post was intended as in insult to her. Your last sentance proves it.You scored zero with God and t on the back with satan..You "made satan proud"
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#482097 Oct 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Since the man of God is "thoroughly furnished" by all scripture, inspired of God, unto good works....what else is necessary????!!!!
How can he be more "thoroughly furnished"????!!!!
thoroughly: completely
"Some of the most dangerous people in the world are religious zealots."

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