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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481706 Oct 12, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I have been getting it for two days. something about a Madison.com but I aint going to try and locate it.
Report it on Topix feed back ..it's,disgusting

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481707 Oct 12, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
“No doctrine concerning the divine and saving mysteries of the faith, however trivial, may be taught without the backing of the holy Scriptures. We must not let ourselves be drawn aside by mere persuasion and cleverness of speech. Do not even give absolute belief to me, the one who tells you these things, unless you receive proof from the divine Scriptures of what I teach. For the faith that brings us salvation acquires its force, not from fallible reasonings, but from what can be proved out of the holy Scriptures.”
Cyril of Jerusalem (ca. 313-386)
Well Hough about not praying tonite Here ..But said ..I think I should :)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481708 Oct 12, 2013
Father God

ABBA

once again we come in supplication and praise .
YOU ALONE ARE HOLY LORD

GOD OF HOSTS , ETERNAL

WE,ask here for healing of all here who need it .
For their family members ALSO.

And thank you for all you
Have given..

We ask that you guide our Leaders
Who seem in disarray .

We ask for your Spirit to lead our loved
Ones and friends , here and elsewhere
TO true belief and salvation

We ask for our words here to be calmer .

Not creating enemies from dissent .

We ask in the name of your Dear Son

Jesus Christ

Lord And Saviour

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#481709 Oct 12, 2013
ALTAR CALL… ARE YOU REALLY “SAVED”?

“First, we must clarify the question. No one is ever saved "as a
result" of an altar call. We are saved only as a result of the

GOSPEL. The question, as too often asked, betrays an awful

misunderstanding of this most important point. But with that

clarification made, we may pass over this question very quickly.
If and when God truly saves a man during the time of public invitation, then we all say "Amen!"

“In all fairness, it is important to observe that the practice was NOT born in the apostolic Church. It is NOT FOUND IN THE MINISTRY

OF JESUS, His apostles or even the church of the post-apostolic

period. We do see Jesus and the apostles "inviting" men and women to Christ and to be saved, but NEVER by means of this particular method. "Invitations" they give, to be sure! But not altar calls. The altar call is "old fashioned" in only a very relative sense.“

“It is old fashioned to us at this end of the twentieth century,

but it first AROSE MORE THAN EIGHTEEN CENTURIES AFTER CHRIST.”
(a made up concept)

http://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/ecclesi...
ALTAR CALL

The modern altar call has its beginnings in the efforts of

American evangelist Charles Finney in the early 19th century.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#481710 Oct 12, 2013
EXTREME UNCTION –

the sacrament, sometimes called the

Last Anointing, which strengthens the sick and

sanctifies the dying: "Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord ... and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him." (James 5:14-15. Also see Mark 6:12-13).

HOLY ORDERS –

the sacrament of ordination which empowers

priests to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass,

administer the sacraments, and officiate over all

the other proper affairs of the Church: "For

every high priest taken from among men, is

ordained for men in the things that appertain to

God, that he may offer up gifts and sacrifices for

sins ... Neither doth any man take the honor to

himself, but he that is called by God, as Aaron

was." (Heb. 5:1-4. Also see Acts 20:28, 1 Tim.

4:14). Also: "And taking bread, he gave thanks,

and broke; and gave to them, saying: This is my

body, which is given for you. Do this for a

commemoration of me." (Luke 22:19).

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481714 Oct 12, 2013
who="StarC"]The EUCHARIST – the sacrament, also known as Holy
Communion, which nourishes the soul with the true
Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under
the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and
wine: "And whilst they were eating, Jesus took
bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and
said: Take ye. This is my body. And having
taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to
them. And they all drank of it. And he said to
them: This is my blood of the new testament, which
shall be shed for many." (Mark 14:22-24.
Also
see Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:52-54, 1 Cor. 10:16).

----------
It just occurred to me that this CC teaching is declaring that those who partake of it, actually receive Jesus IN THEIR FLESH! Were that so, the flesh would have that immortal body...and that is not the case.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

KayMarie

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#481715 Oct 12, 2013
Time to say good night.[6:27 Pac. time]
Have a blessed SUNDAY, the day of the LORD!!
:)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481716 Oct 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
ALTAR CALL… ARE YOU REALLY “SAVED”?
“First, we must clarify the question. No one is ever saved "as a
result" of an altar call. We are saved only as a result of the
GOSPEL. The question, as too often asked, betrays an awful
misunderstanding of this most important point. But with that
clarification made, we may pass over this question very quickly.
If and when God truly saves a man during the time of public invitation, then we all say "Amen!"
“In all fairness, it is important to observe that the practice was NOT born in the apostolic Church. It is NOT FOUND IN THE MINISTRY
OF JESUS, His apostles or even the church of the post-apostolic
period. We do see Jesus and the apostles "inviting" men and women to Christ and to be saved, but NEVER by means of this particular method. "Invitations" they give, to be sure! But not altar calls. The altar call is "old fashioned" in only a very relative sense.“
“It is old fashioned to us at this end of the twentieth century,
but it first AROSE MORE THAN EIGHTEEN CENTURIES AFTER CHRIST.”
(a made up concept)
http://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/ecclesi...
ALTAR CALL
The modern altar call has its beginnings in the efforts of
American evangelist Charles

Finney in the early 19th century.
At the time of the apostles they were speaking in all different places.

Out on the open...near rivers where They baptized ..in houses.

They made their profession of belief and were baptized .

There were not even churches and,altars as,such .

Communal tables may be ..in homes ..or where ever .

A profession of faith is done WHERE THE SPIRIT MOVES IT TO BE DONE.

One thing .

GOD KNOWS EACH HEART IN ANY SACRAMENT..FIELD ..BEDROOM OR ALTARS..

saying oh well in a,Catholic sacraments it's real but not on an altar

Please,!!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#481717 Oct 12, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks,for any prayers,on my behalf ..
However I wanted to know,on this,...And my other question ..
About you thinking ..believing your friends,unsaved ..That a,Church is needed .
..
The final decision as to the salvation of other Christians, as to who is saved and who is not, who is going to heaven and who is not--- is not mine to make!....... GOD is the FINAL JUDGE--not me, not you, not confrinting, not any other bible only "fundie) or ANYONE else on this forum (even though they think they are!!!

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#481718 Oct 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="StarC"]The EUCHARIST – the sacrament, also known as Holy
Communion, which nourishes the soul with the true
Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under
the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and
wine: "And whilst they were eating, Jesus took
bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and
said: Take ye. This is my body. And having
taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to
them. And they all drank of it. And he said to
them: This is my blood of the new testament, which
shall be shed for many." (Mark 14:22-24.
Also
see Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:52-54, 1 Cor. 10:16).
----------
It just occurred to me that this CC teaching is declaring that those who partake of it, actually receive Jesus IN THEIR FLESH!

Were that so, the flesh would have that immortal body...and that is not the case.

KayMarie
Snipped for space....

"Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under
the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and
wine: "

Is this you?

John 6:
64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.c 65And he said,“For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”

66 As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. 67Jesus then said to the Twelve,“Do you also want to leave?” 68Simon Peter answered him,“Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We have come to believe and are convinced that you are the Holy One of God.”d 70Jesus answered them,“Did I not choose you twelve? Yet is not one of you a devil?” 71He was referring to Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot; it was he who would betray him, one of the Twelve.

*[6:60–71] These verses refer more to themes of Jn 6:35–50 than to those of Jn 6:51–58 and seem to be addressed to members of the Johannine community who found it difficult to accept the high Christology reflected in the bread of life discourse.

*[6:62] This unfinished conditional sentence is obscure. Probably there is a reference to Jn 6:49–51.
Jesus claims to be the bread that comes down from heaven (Jn 6:50); this claim

provokes incredulity (Jn 6:60); and so Jesus is pictured as asking what his disciples will

say when he goes up to heaven."

[Must run now]

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481719 Oct 12, 2013
who="StarC"]EXTREME UNCTION –
the sacrament, sometimes called the
Last Anointing, which strengthens the sick and
sanctifies the dying: "Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord ... and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him." (James 5:14-15. Also see Mark 6:12-13).

----------
You left something out:

Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 AND THE PRAYER OF FAITH SHALL SAVE THE SICK, AND THE LORD WILL RAISE HIM UP; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Extreme unction seems to be committing him to death, but the prayer of faith will raise him up.

Suppose we use 'prayer of faith', instead of the 'prayer of death'.

KayMarie

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481720 Oct 12, 2013
AS FAR AS,I CAN SEE,WE ARE,ALL BELUEVERS,

WHY THE ICON on a prayer .

I mean come on..I hoped we could at least
Pray together ..if not

Making fun is,disturbing among Christians,...
Shame on whoever ...shame

In.my faith ..prayer is,serious
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#481721 Oct 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
The EUCHARIST – the sacrament, also known as Holy
Communion, which nourishes the soul with the true
Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under
the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and
wine: "And whilst they were eating, Jesus took
bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and
said: Take ye. This is my body. And having
taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to
them. And they all drank of it. And he said to
them: This is my blood of the new testament, which
shall be shed for many." (Mark 14:22-24.
Also
see Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:52-54, 1 Cor. 10:16).
Not his literal body. NO NO NO.....
truth

Perth, Australia

#481722 Oct 12, 2013
altar

after prayers i go sleep that time..so early then usual..deadly sleep..i don't remember nothing at all why is like that..
i remember that i come front of big huge door..i see door become open themselves..no no i don't touch that..then i see as church but nobody there its night..o i see its not night for me no..i remember its stop me from right side of Altar..yee i looking there i see myself..but i don't see who is there no..no any symbol before altar after altar or on altar..
i simply fill its pool me toward Altar I appier in pure white dress very healthy on face is smile happiness ..

white altar
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#481723 Oct 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
CONFIRMATION – the sacrament which confers the Holy
Spirit to make us strong and perfect Christians and
soldiers of Jesus Christ: "Now when the apostles,
who were in Jerusalem, had heard that Samaria had
received the word of God, they sent unto them
Peter and John. Who, when they were come, prayed
for them, that they might receive the Holy Spirit.
... Then they laid their hands upon them, and
they received the Holy Spirit." (Acts 8:14-17.
Also see Acts 19:6).
You said, quote, "the sacrament which confers the Holy
Spirit to make us strong and perfect Christians and
soldiers of Jesus Christ:" End quote.

You are strong and perfect because of a "sacrament"? Where can I find the word "sacrament" in the Bible?

No.....you are not perfect, you are not strong and you certainly are not Christian.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481724 Oct 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
My argument is not with God but with bible only preachers like YOU who twist, pervert and distort the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible, to make it mean "ONLY what YOU want it to mean"!..... Your conclusions are predicated upon (one thing and one thing only)....... Your OWN "opinionated anti-catholic" hostility, vengeance and vindictiveness toward Jesus Christ HIMSELF and His historically and biblically PROVEN One True Catholic Church....... This ongoing condemnation and judgement against the faith and Salvation of other Christians (especially Catholics) "clearly reveals" the (undermining bigotry" that you rely upon in order to keep your bible only ministry from sinking further and further into oblivion where it belongs!!!!!You do NOT speak for God and NEVER WILL until you come to "true salvation" in Jesus Christ!!!!
SALVATION COMES BY BELIEVING ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST..

ALL ELSE IS.... ANTICHRIST
truth

Perth, Australia

#481725 Oct 12, 2013


pray prayers Cross INRI

represent your suffering trough your prayers..
don't fill shame
Jesus Christ been one who past every shame..
don't be afraid

when priest wash hand on Altar
asked who seek and asked its going receive

what you need asked that moment

'wash me cleanse me from my past life my present day and keep my future for me and any members of my family.'

When they reject Jesus trough Court process and washed hand from him..many of us find some in our life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#481726 Oct 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
To understand what a sacrament is, and what it
does for a person, one must know the correct, the
traditional Christian, definition of a sacrament.
Properly defined, a sacrament is
"an outward sign
instituted by Christ
to give grace" (holiness) to
the soul ...
that is to say, it is a divinely
prescribed ceremony of the Church in which the
words and action combine to form what is at the
same time both a sign of divine grace and a fount
of divine grace. When this special grace –
distinct from ordinary, inspirational grace – is
imparted to the soul, the Holy Spirit of God is
imparted to the soul, imbuing the soul with divine
life, uniting the soul to Christ.
As the Scriptures point out, this grace is the
grace of salvation – without it man is, in a very
real sense, isolated from Christ. And as the
Scriptures point out, Christ gave His Church seven
sacraments to serve as well-springs of this
ineffable, soul-saving grace, the grace which
flows from His sacrifice on Calvary:
Seven Sacraments
BAPTISM – the sacrament of spiritual rebirth
through which we are made children of God and
heirs of Heaven: "Amen, amen I say to thee,
unless a man be born again of water and the Holy
Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
(John 3:5. Also see Acts 2:38, Rom. 6:2-6).
More Roman Catholic garbage.

You said, quote, "BAPTISM – the sacrament of spiritual rebirth
through which we are made children of God and
heirs of Heaven: "Amen, amen I say to thee,
unless a man be born again of water and the Holy
Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
(John 3:5." End quote.

Baptism? No, not hardly. Nicodemus would not have know about CHRISTIAN baptism.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#481727 Oct 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The final decision as to the salvation of other Christians, as to who is saved and who is not, who is going to heaven and who is not--- is not mine to make!....... GOD is the FINAL JUDGE--not me, not you, not confrinting, not any other bible only "fundie) or ANYONE else on this forum (even though they think they are!!!
Yes,agree,

THE COMMENT WAS A CHURCH DOES,NOT SAVE ...Jesus,does. We,agree

But you keep saying only your CHURCH saves,..that was why I asked .

You can be in a Church HOJO ..But not be saved ...any church ..not just yours,.

People go for all sorts,if reasons,...sorry to say ...it's,nit the,CHURCH ..NOT BILLY GRAHAM..NOT THE POPE...NO ONE BUT JESUS,SAVES,
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#481728 Oct 12, 2013
StarC wrote:
EXTREME UNCTION –
the sacrament, sometimes called the
Last Anointing, which strengthens the sick and
sanctifies the dying: "Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord ... and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him." (James 5:14-15. Also see Mark 6:12-13).
HOLY ORDERS –
the sacrament of ordination which empowers
priests to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass,
administer the sacraments, and officiate over all
the other proper affairs of the Church: "For
every high priest taken from among men, is
ordained for men in the things that appertain to
God, that he may offer up gifts and sacrifices for
sins ... Neither doth any man take the honor to
himself, but he that is called by God, as Aaron
was." (Heb. 5:1-4. Also see Acts 20:28, 1 Tim.
4:14). Also: "And taking bread, he gave thanks,
and broke; and gave to them, saying: This is my
body, which is given for you. Do this for a
commemoration of me." (Luke 22:19).
More deplorable Roman Catholic mumbo jumbo. Garbage....to be thrown away with the rest of the trash.

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