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Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#481009 Oct 8, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Dust storm says..........Pope Francis excommunicated a priest for promoting homosexual marriage.
Michael says.....Pope Francis just two months ago stated......"WHO AM I TO JUDGE"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-234897...
..If the Pope excommunicated every roman catholic, every priest/bishop/cardinal who is Gay, the catholic church would be in crisis mode immediately.
....
Again you took it out of context and inserted what you wanted to believe he said as the media so often does. That myth was destroyed but yet not a peep from mainstream media. In context was explained above, but your comprehension is more along the lines of see spot run. Just keep saying I think I can Mikey and then maybe someday by a true miracle you will be able to comprehend something beyond your obsessive compulsion to remain clueless.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#481010 Oct 8, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Confrinting says........
SUCH TRIVIA SUCH AS ...WHERE CAINS WIFE CAME FROM WILL NOT MATTER..
AND THESE THINGS THAT ARE MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING,
Michael says........You say its trivial because you DON'T have an answer.(lol)
I don't find it trivial. I want to know the answer? Please tell all of us.
....Where did Cain find his wife?
Again???

Most likely his,sister ...

But CONFRINT IS,CORRECT .

SHOULD,WE BE DEEMED WORTHY through the,BLOOD,OF our SAVIOUR...WE,shall
Know the answers,we,seek in the,afterlife ..if God,wills it..

I imagine there are whole libraries,of earth events,.

Arguing about who mated, did,Mary have children...how old is,the earth.

All mysteries,we,cannot Know for sure,.

The,ONLY Surety is,Christ gave His,life ..took our sins,to the,Cross..satisfied Gods,perfect JUSTICE FOR US ....
ONLY HIS,BLOOD WASHES US .

That should be your focus,if you really are,interested in truth ..

In my opinion.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#481011 Oct 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
To Clay....several times...with no response....
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Since the man of God is "thoroughly furnished" by all scripture, inspired of God, unto good works....what else is necessary????!!!!
How can he be more "thoroughly furnished"????!!!!
thoroughly: completely
- several times its been pointed out to you and the other fundies on here.. When Paul wrote that letter to Timothy, he was speaking of the OT Books. Exactly WHICH OT Books should be the only concern of yours. He likely was telling Timothy to search Tobit, Sirach, Maccabbees ...

Just this Sunday, the rector of the Cathedral have a nice homily directing us to do the same. Pray, read the scriptures, and reflect. At no time did it occur to anyone to 'read the scriptures and form our own doctrines'. Thats the fundie interpretations of Pauls letter. Its madness. You're nuts if you think the Apostles directed the folks to grab a Bible and have at it! Christ didn't die so you guys can lead everyone on a scavenger hunt using some of the Bible.
Our Lord started a Church. Period.
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#481012 Oct 8, 2013
Michael wrote:
42,001 different christian sects, each sect claiming the very same Holy Spirit of God, guides them each to believe their own conflicting doctrine and biased belief.
......makes no common sense!
I will respond again to those that like using the 33000, 42000 or 42001

figure.

For starters the list is from the Christian Encyclopedia

How they get the 33 or 42 numbers is the same jsut different year.

The Facts and Stats on "33,000 Denominations"

Independents (about 22000)
Protestants (about 9000)
"Marginals" (about 1600)
Orthodox (781)
Roman Catholics (242)
Anglicans (168)

Denominations. A denomination is defined in this Encyclopedia as an organized aggregate of worship centers or congregations of similar ecclesiastical tradition within a specific country; i.e. as an organized Christian church or tradition or religious group or community of believers, within a specific country, whose component congregations and members are called by the same denominational name in different areas, regarding themselves as one autonomous

The key word here is autonomous.

So for example in Canada A Lutheran congregation that has a senior's home attached and a Somali refugee outreach program as my Mom's family church does for tax purposes has separated it self and made itself Autonomous and thus counted as one of the 9000 along with many other Lutheran churches that do the same and then all counted separate when in different countries as they file again autonomous country taxes.

YET THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME STATEMENT OF FAITH
AND IN FACT THE STATEMENT OF FAITHS OF PROTESTANT CONGREGATIONS AND THE INDEPENDENTS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE SAME EXCEPT LIKE MORMONS, JW'S ETC.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize this number is basic fiction grossly miss represents the common ground they share.

This by no means represents that there 42000 divisions especially in light of the Fact Protestants from many backgrounds pray eat and worship together in many different interdenominational functions.
It represents differences and yes in some cases big ones but the vast majority are regional, ethnicity, and language reasons.
Mennonites and Lutherans share virtually 99% the same beliefs, but when Dutch immigrates to North America as did Germans do to language and cultural issues they formed their own sects.

We are all Christians.

So basically anyone use this number as some sort of ammunition to say see they can't agree is well being deceitful disingenuous or simply quoting a number with out any knowledge of how the number was arrived at.

But Hey is it not interesting that before the Reformation and one Protestant sect existed there were already about 1000 just within the so called Universal Church all calling themselves the one Catholic Church.

SO INSTEAD OF ORTHODOX AND RCC POINTING THE FINGERS WHY DON'T THEY SHOW US HOW TO DO UNITY. SO FAR NOT SO GOOD.
SHOW US HOW ROME IS MAKING PEACE WITH THE EASTERN ORTHODOX.

The RCC has had a 1000 years to do it and failed, so she is the last to start pointing fingers, talk about the pot call the porcelain black. If Rome can't end the Schism with her So called Apostle of Rome and so called 2000 years of holy tradition then she is found empty and full of it.

Yeesssh

FOR MORE GOTO
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm

OH p.s.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481013 Oct 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
- several times its been pointed out to you and the other fundies on here.. When Paul wrote that letter to Timothy, he was speaking of the OT Books. Exactly WHICH OT Books should be the only concern of yours. He likely was telling Timothy to search Tobit, Sirach, Maccabbees ...
Just this Sunday, the rector of the Cathedral have a nice homily directing us to do the same. Pray, read the scriptures, and reflect. At no time did it occur to anyone to 'read the scriptures and form our own doctrines'. Thats the fundie interpretations of Pauls letter. Its madness. You're nuts if you think the Apostles directed the folks to grab a Bible and have at it! Christ didn't die so you guys can lead everyone on a scavenger hunt using some of the Bible.
Our Lord started a Church. Period.
~~~

YOU WROTE

Our Lord started a Church.

~~~

THE CHURCH IS AS OLD AS GOD IS..

THE CHURCH DEFINED IN GREEK

G1577
&#949;&#787;&#954; &#954;&#955;&#951; &#963;&#953;&#769; &#945;
ekkle&#772;sia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is,(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):- assembly, church.

EXISTED IN THE WILDERNESS IN MOSES DAY..

Act_7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE THAT STEPHEN LIED...
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#481014 Oct 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, but if I were to go over those pamphlets, it still wouldn't solve the underlying problem: who is the infallible authority to decide which books are Biblical and who's interpretations are the truth?
You can NOT have an infallible collection of books, with NO infallible authority to interpret them.
As I've pointed out earlier, born agains believe the Holy Spirit interprets it for them (after their alter call). How come they don't come to the same conclusions??
Sola Scripture opens up an abyss of a mess. Its a man made doctrine and is evident by men like you... Who have come and gone since the Bible was published in 1452. No two generations have preached the same Christianity since. Doesn't that alarm you in the least?
God is God He can and will use whom He pleases.
Regardless of their station in life.
Peter was a fishermen, Paul was a Pharisee, and Luke was a doctor.
Mary Magdalin was a prostitute.
Yet all these people were chosen of God for a great purpose in life,{WHAT WAS THAT GREAT PURPOSE CLAY??) TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST TO ALL MEN , FROM EVERY TRIBE TONGUE AND NATION.
If God can inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures , He surly can inspire them with Knowledge and a revelation of His Holy Word.
GOD TEACHES HIS PEOPLE CLAY IT IS THAT SIMPLE, WHEN MAN OPENS THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS TO GOD HIS HOLY SPIRIT ENGULFS THE VERY ESSENCE OF MAN. HE IS OUR LEADER OUR TEACHER WHO OPENS US TO ALL TRUTHS.
GOD GAVE SOLOMON THE DESIRE OF HIS HEART WHICH WAS WISDOM, WE ARE TO PRAY FOR WISDOM HANG IT AROUND OUR NECK LIKE A PRECIOUS STONE,
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#481015 Oct 8, 2013
Clay the Fool Wrote.

I'm sorry, but if I were to go over those pamphlets, it still wouldn't solve the underlying problem: who is the infallible authority to decide which books are Biblical and who's interpretations are the truth?
You can NOT have an infallible collection of books, with NO infallible authority to interpret them.

My Response

Really and the RCC is infallible they authority the one that decreed through Papal Bull and then some 27 Popes affirmed the Inquisitions, the RCC murdered some 20 million + over 500 years with her infallible authority in the name of Jesus torturing and murdering those who believe as I do for example adult baptism.

So before you get to Alter calls FOOL you got something way bigger than that to deal with.

Fool wrote

As I've pointed out earlier, born agains believe the Holy Spirit interprets it for them (after their alter call). How come they don't come to the same conclusions??

My Response

Who what you are referring to above is beyond comprehension Evangelical Protestant Christians believe the body of believers the through the Holy Spirit interprets, not individuals you make it nonsense and then tear down all the while patting yourself on the back you are a Fool.

Fool wrote

Sola Scripture opens up an abyss of a mess. Its a man made doctrine and is evident by men like you... Who have come and gone since the Bible was published in 1452. No two generations have preached the same Christianity since. Doesn't that alarm you in the least?

My Response

Once again a man made statement from a fool that has not a shred of biblical or Historical evidence to show its truth, its just Blah Blah from a Fool
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#481016 Oct 8, 2013
Psalm 39
New King James Version (NKJV)
Prayer for Wisdom and Forgiveness
To the Chief Musician. To Jeduthun. A Psalm of David.
39 I said,“I will guard my ways,
Lest I sin with my tongue;
I will restrain my mouth with a muzzle,
While the wicked are before me.”
2 I was mute with silence,
I held my peace even from good;
And my sorrow was stirred up.
3 My heart was hot within me;
While I was musing, the fire burned.
Then I spoke with my tongue:
4 “Lord, make me to know my end,
And what is the measure of my days,
That I may know how frail I am.
5 Indeed, You have made my days as handbreadths,
And my age is as nothing before You;
Certainly every man at his best state is but vapor. Selah
6 Surely every man walks about like a shadow;
Surely they busy themselves in vain;
He heaps up riches,
And does not know who will gather them.
7 “And now, Lord, what do I wait for?
My hope is in You.
8 Deliver me from all my transgressions;
Do not make me the reproach of the foolish.
9 I was mute, I did not open my mouth,
Because it was You who did it.
10 Remove Your plague from me;
I am consumed by the blow of Your hand.
11 When with rebukes You correct man for iniquity,
You make his beauty melt away like a moth;
Surely every man is vapor. Selah
12 “Hear my prayer, O Lord,
And give ear to my cry;
Do not be silent at my tears;
For I am a stranger with You,
A sojourner, as all my fathers were.
13 Remove Your gaze from me, that I may regain strength,
Before I go away and am no more.”
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#481018 Oct 8, 2013
1 Kings 3:1-15
New International Version (NIV)

Solomon Asks for Wisdom3 Solomon made an alliance with Pharaoh king of Egypt and married his daughter. He brought her to the City of David until he finished building his palace and the temple of the Lord, and the wall around Jerusalem. 2 The people, however, were still sacrificing at the high places, because a temple had not yet been built for the Name of the Lord. 3 Solomon showed his love for the Lord by walking according to the instructions given him by his father David, except that he offered sacrifices and burned incense on the high places.
4 The king went to Gibeon to offer sacrifices, for that was the most important high place, and Solomon offered a thousand burnt offerings on that altar. 5 At Gibeon the Lord appeared to Solomon during the night in a dream, and God said,“Ask for whatever you want me to give you.”

6 Solomon answered,“You have shown great kindness to your servant, my father David, because he was faithful to you and righteous and upright in heart. You have continued this great kindness to him and have given him a son to sit on his throne this very day.

7 “Now, Lord my God, you have made your servant king in place of my father David. But I am only a little child and do not know how to carry out my duties. 8 Your servant is here among the people you have chosen, a great people, too numerous to count or number. 9 So give your servant a discerning heart to govern your people and to distinguish between right and wrong. For who is able to govern this great people of yours?”

10 The Lord was pleased that Solomon had asked for this. 11 So God said to him,“Since you have asked for this and not for long life or wealth for yourself, nor have asked for the death of your enemies but for discernment in administering justice, 12 I will do what you have asked. I will give you a wise and discerning heart, so that there will never have been anyone like you, nor will there ever be. 13 Moreover, I will give you what you have not asked for—both wealth and honor—so that in your lifetime you will have no equal among kings. 14 And if you walk in obedience to me and keep my decrees and commands as David your father did, I will give you a long life.” 15 Then Solomon awoke—and he realized it had been a dream.
He returned to Jerusalem, stood before the ark of the Lord’s covenant and sacrificed burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. Then he gave a feast for all his court.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#481019 Oct 8, 2013
Concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
I will respond again to those that like using the 33000, 42000 or 42001
figure.
For starters the list is from the Christian Encyclopedia
How they get the 33 or 42 numbers is the same jsut different year.
The Facts and Stats on "33,000 Denominations"
Independents (about 22000)
Protestants (about 9000)
"Marginals" (about 1600)
Orthodox (781)
Roman Catholics (242)
Anglicans (168)
Denominations. A denomination is defined in this Encyclopedia as an organized aggregate of worship centers or congregations of similar ecclesiastical tradition within a specific country; i.e. as an organized Christian church or tradition or religious group or community of believers, within a specific country, whose component congregations and members are called by the same denominational name in different areas, regarding themselves as one autonomous
The key word here is autonomous.
So for example in Canada A Lutheran congregation that has a senior's home attached and a Somali refugee outreach program as my Mom's family church does for tax purposes has separated it self and made itself Autonomous and thus counted as one of the 9000 along with many other Lutheran churches that do the same and then all counted separate when in different countries as they file again autonomous country taxes.
YET THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME STATEMENT OF FAITH
AND IN FACT THE STATEMENT OF FAITHS OF PROTESTANT CONGREGATIONS AND THE INDEPENDENTS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE SAME EXCEPT LIKE MORMONS, JW'S ETC.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize this number is basic fiction grossly miss represents the common ground they share.
This by no means represents that there 42000 divisions especially in light of the Fact Protestants from many backgrounds pray eat and worship together in many different interdenominational functions.
It represents differences and yes in some cases big ones but the vast majority are regional, ethnicity, and language reasons.
Mennonites and Lutherans share virtually 99% the same beliefs, but when Dutch immigrates to North America as did Germans do to language and cultural issues they formed their own sects.
We are all Christians.
So basically anyone use this number as some sort of ammunition to say see they can't agree is well being deceitful disingenuous or simply quoting a number with out any knowledge of how the number was arrived at.
But Hey is it not interesting that before the Reformation and one Protestant sect existed there were already about 1000 just within the so called Universal Church all calling themselves the one Catholic Church.
SO INSTEAD OF ORTHODOX AND RCC POINTING THE FINGERS WHY DON'T THEY SHOW US HOW TO DO UNITY. SO FAR NOT SO GOOD.
SHOW US HOW ROME IS MAKING PEACE WITH THE EASTERN ORTHODOX.
The RCC has had a 1000 years to do it and failed, so she is the last to start pointing fingers, talk about the pot call the porcelain black. If Rome can't end the Schism with her So called Apostle of Rome and so called 2000 years of holy tradition then she is found empty and full of it.
Yeesssh
FOR MORE GOTO
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm
OH p.s.
In The CHURCH where I was,baptized ..at the time .

We rented the,CHURCH PRIPER TO A BRAZILIAN CONGREGATION
A BUILDING BEHIND THE CHURCH . Used by Haitian Chrisians,whom.we,helped support

We,..small congregation..met in the meeting hall.

On occasion we have live my joint services,

When the Brazilians,built their own Church

Our congregation merged with a,largeR...,HOME CHRCH .
in order to keep the building and fix it .

WE WERE ALL CHRISTIAN ...followed the teachings if Jesus. Despite language,differences .

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#481020 Oct 8, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
God is God He can and will use whom He pleases.
Regardless of their station in life.
Peter was a fishermen, Paul was a Pharisee, and Luke was a doctor.
Mary Magdalin was a prostitute.
Yet all these people were chosen of God for a great purpose in life,{WHAT WAS THAT GREAT PURPOSE CLAY??) TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST TO ALL MEN , FROM EVERY TRIBE TONGUE AND NATION.
If God can inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures , He surly can inspire them with Knowledge and a revelation of His Holy Word.
GOD TEACHES HIS PEOPLE CLAY IT IS THAT SIMPLE, WHEN MAN OPENS THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS TO GOD HIS HOLY SPIRIT ENGULFS THE VERY ESSENCE OF MAN. HE IS OUR LEADER OUR TEACHER WHO OPENS US TO ALL TRUTHS.
GOD GAVE SOLOMON THE DESIRE OF HIS HEART WHICH WAS WISDOM, WE ARE TO PRAY FOR WISDOM HANG IT AROUND OUR NECK LIKE A PRECIOUS STONE,
In the name of our Saviour JESUS Christ ..Amen

How is,y our other half doing??

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481021 Oct 8, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Then I guess no one will be able to get to Heaven, I sin, you sin we all sin. The bible doesn't say homosexual, but effeminate.. A homosexual in this world has the same chance of getting into heaven as you do. Some live monastic lives and have become Saints. Didn't you know Christ loves everyone? If the gay person is celibate, then he or she is following Christ by living a Holy life, then they have a greater chance to get to heaven than a lot of so called born again people who say they don't sin anymore. Get off your high horse and become humble in your ways, if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love Christ.
~~~

YOU WROTE

"born again people who say they don't sin anymore."

~~~

NO WE DON'T ...CLAIM THAT WE DO NOT SIN

WE BELIEVE GOD

HE SAYS...IN HIS WORD

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

WE CONFESS OUR SINS TO THE FATHER IN THE NAME OF OUR HIGH PRIEST JESUS CHRIST...

WHO MAKES INTERCESSION FOR US..

Rom_8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Rom_8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Rom_11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

Heb_7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

WE NEED NO ONE TO BE OUR MEDIATOR BUT JESUS...

1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

WE DO NOT DEPEND UPON THE DEAD TO STAND BETWEEN US AN GOD...

WE DON'T CONFESS TO PRIEST...

WE DON'T PRAY TO MARY...

WE DON'T PRAY TO SAINTS...

WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN PROXY RELATIONSHIPS...

THERE IS NOTHING/NO ONE BETWEEN OUR SOULS AND OUR SAVIOR.

Heb_4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#481022 Oct 8, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Is the link that Rose posted from a catholic church or not? Are you saying that that link is not what the Catholic Church is.. Gay friendly parishes?
Sera, the group on that website is not in any way sanctioned by the Church. What they are is a bunch of Catholic gay rights activists who search for local Catholic Churches which have a very liberal priest assigned and who are very open to the gay community's extreme sense of social justice and then create a directory of sorts for like-minded dissidents. We have a few in Minneapolis where the priests are very often times being disciplined by the Archbishop for stepping over the line. I'm sure Rose is a nice lady and I believe her when she says was raised Catholic. I also believe she left when she was a teen, and if she was anything like I was as a teenager, she was probably taught a great many things but blew it off like I did. I will tell you that much of my faith formation came AFTER I matured. I suspect she left long before she had any real grasp of Catholic teaching.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#481023 Oct 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"born again people who say they don't sin anymore."
~~~
NO WE DON'T ...CLAIM THAT WE DO NOT SIN
WE BELIEVE GOD
HE SAYS...IN HIS WORD
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
WE CONFESS OUR SINS TO THE FATHER IN THE NAME OF OUR HIGH PRIEST JESUS CHRIST...
WHO MAKES INTERCESSION FOR US..
Rom_8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom_8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Rom_11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Heb_7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
WE NEED NO ONE TO BE OUR MEDIATOR BUT JESUS...
1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
WE DO NOT DEPEND UPON THE DEAD TO STAND BETWEEN US AN GOD...
WE DON'T CONFESS TO PRIEST...
WE DON'T PRAY TO MARY...
WE DON'T PRAY TO SAINTS...
WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN PROXY RELATIONSHIPS...
THERE IS NOTHING/NO ONE BETWEEN OUR SOULS AND OUR SAVIOR.
Heb_4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
You said everything possible with scripture .

I have never seen one,BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN state they are,without SIN.

The temple veil TORN between God and Man ....no priest between us,and Our Father ..

Priests,..ministers,..May be holy ..May have knowledge ...May guide us,.
But NO HIGH PRIEST except Our Saviour Jesus,Christ .

HE,ALONE paid the price of God's,Justice towards US .

the ONLY ONE WHO COULD because,She was sinless ..became,as Sin for us
As,prophesied ..

Was,slaughtered in OUR PLACE with OUR VILE TRANSGRESSIONS.

So who can we repent TO BUT HIM...whom we owe everything And WHO
CAN FORIVE US,..ONLY JESUS..

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#481024 Oct 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Sera, the group on that website is not in any way sanctioned by the Church. What they are is a bunch of Catholic gay rights activists who search for local Catholic Churches which have a very liberal priest assigned and who are very open to the gay community's extreme sense of social justice and then create a directory of sorts for like-minded dissidents. We have a few in Minneapolis where the priests are very often times being disciplined by the Archbishop for stepping over the line. I'm sure Rose is a nice lady and I believe her when she says was raised Catholic. I also believe she left when she was a teen, and if she was anything like I was as a teenager, she was probably taught a great many things but blew it off like I did. I will tell you that much of my faith formation came AFTER I matured. I suspect she left long before she had any real grasp of Catholic teaching.
Thanks,Anhony ..I actually left in my twenties ...
What I learned was,from before VAT2..the Baltimore CATECHISM I posted is how I learned ..things were different. I never claimed to take,any theology classes,..nor ever DoD not believe Jesus died for our sins ..though I did not realize fully just how HE TOOK ON OUR SINS

I fully have acknowledged ..That U did not come to FULL FAITH IN MY SAVIOYR in my heart until decades,later ..

as I said yesterday . I ONLY ABSWERED ONE PISER ON ONE POINT..GAY PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH

The only point of my post was THERR are churches CATHOLIC and NON Catholic ..That are gay friendly

I live in county very diverse,..But I was not going to publish local
Information ..do I found a,national site .

I gave no information on HOW they are gay friendly . I DON'T KNOW.
.AFTER ACCUSATIONS,.of being bigoted ..quoting YOU by the way...so as said ..tHough I had my doubts

And another woman Saud I quoted some bishop...I looked last night for that . Found 5 posts from me ..NO BISHOP .(I have the five links in case anyone wants them )

again the point was gay people go to some Christian Churches ..some are listed as CATHOLUC and gay friendly.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT WHAT YOUR CHURCH TEACHES ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY..
I assume the Church teaching is against it .

I said before until I came back on Topix I thought out differences were ritualistic ...

AND THE MAIN thing we had in common was the LOVE OF OUR LORD JESUS ..OUR SAVIOUR .

I believe He used both Catholic and non Catholic Christians, for the great Commission...HIS,WORD to tell four corners of the,earth

I have been called liar and bigot .

I am neither ..IMO ..posting a,link.I found that lists Churches and that THey are CATHOLIC...one listed I know is Catholic as I went there for eighth grade ...AGAIN NO CLUE in what way They ate gay friendly ..fir a nit make me a bigot .

My city is full of gay people ..SOME go to Church...i assume they go where they are,welcome .

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481025 Oct 8, 2013
who="Human Being"
confronting
KayMarie
I do read the Bible everyday. Of course, I may not be the "stereotypical" Catholic. But I invest at least 1 1/2 hours a day on reading the Bible, and another 1-2 hours a day on other religious material.
This of course is fine for me, but I consider prayer time much more important, and generally speaking put considerable more time in directly speaking with God.(Prayer for leaders is included....)
Peace

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VERY good. That is where we find answers. Prayer IS important.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481026 Oct 8, 2013
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
I disagree - many nations seem to be in trouble and many nations don't even use the Bible.
Your opinion is only that.
I for one, don't give value to the Bible at all, except in one way - it causes hatred within people, division of like followers, and due to its incompleteness has caused people to only believe in a portion of Jesus and what he taught.
Seems like you are promoting these situations as well.

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I don't usually respond to your posts, but you really stuck your neck out on that first line:
"many nations seem to be in trouble and many nations don't even use the Bible."

Exactly their problem... "The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom."

KayMarie

“Hey Now!”

Since: Oct 13

Washington Co.

#481027 Oct 8, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
That has already been discussed ..
Eves,female,children.
and that's ok w/ you?

We should all look like British inbred royalty then.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481028 Oct 8, 2013
who="Michael"
If we are all sinners then none of us have a right to point out sins of others, yet this goes on continuously on this forum by those that believe they are saved.
UNBELIEVABLE!

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All of us need to speak more civilly to everyone.("As much as it lies in you, live PEACEABLY with EVERYONE.")
Sin should be defined, but without condemning anyone. We are to encourage others to avoid sin...not provoke them to wrath.
Jesus said, "I did not come to condemn the world, but (so) that the world through me might be saved."

Are WE encouraging anyone to be more godly? Do we persuade anyone that God truly loves THEM?

"Whatsoever you do to the least of these...you do it also unto ME."

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#481029 Oct 8, 2013
who="Michael"

Imagine a large corporation where MOST of its employees don't follow mandatory rules/regulations?

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You are describing our government.:)

KM

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