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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 701775 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

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#479953 Oct 3, 2013
Paul also rebuked Peter

Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch

this verse is a clear indicator that the catholics are caught in another of their lies when they say hat peter was the first bishop of Antioch.

there was already a church established and Paul rebuked peter when peter showed up.

strange that Paul could rebuke a bishop already established and a man called heir first pope.

even tho Peter made mistakes and was forgiven by jesus, he was not lowered in the office that was given to him, for the Bible is clear that the Gifts and [calling] are without repentance.

the catholics have been told so many lies by their clergy that like clay, they don't know if they are coming or going.

Peter was an Apostle and even john knew that he was not lowered from that high office into being a Bishop
chuck

Dublin, OH

#479954 Oct 3, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
lol yeah that's better, you also called her stupid though. I was raised to show some respect towards ladies. Preston must be your pastor.
Coming from a guy who calls people an idiot...don't mean much Clay.

You should feel good about this. I call you a clown and not stupid.

She has cussed on this forum, I called her out on it and she knows it. Have you said something to her. It doesn't matter if you saw it, she did it. Will you say something to her?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#479955 Oct 3, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Why would I share with you my testimony?
You ask people to do this so you can go on with ranting about how wrong they are and how right you are.You take the good and convert to evil.I do not take something that is sacred and put it before evil that intends it harm. I guard it as a treasure.Get off of sacred ground. Do not defile what Jesus has given me or anyone else
1 Peter 5:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Psalms 10:9
He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.
I am right...you have no testimony...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#479956 Oct 3, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
I talked to John, on the phone, several times. Your fantasy about what he thought is just that...a fantasy, lol. You need to leave him alone, he's got better things to do than be invloved in our petty squabbles.
Speaking of the Word of God, neither you nor Kay, who reject the sacramental nature of baptism (and which John of course agreed with Catholics), are able to explain Gal. 3:27. Why is that?

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Anthony: Sola scripturists are accused of taking bits and pieces of scripture to form their doctrines. I suggest that you read the whole third chapter of Galatians.

Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, OR BY THE HEARING OF FAITH?
Gal 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Gal 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal 3:6 Even as ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS ACCOUNTED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen THROUGH FAITH, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal 3:9 So then THEY WHICH BE OF FAITH are blessed with faithful Abraham.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Great chapter on faith...and good works, including baptism, FOLLOW FAITH. Jesus said that, "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved." Baptism is necessary...but one who does not receive Christ by faith first, is just a wet sinner.

KayMarie
truth

Claremont, Australia

#479957 Oct 3, 2013
you speak nothing at all

all of you try play God

find
'if i need i will remove you all
who say that
not me

in matrix is error
don't represent my name on most evil way
decivers and posessors
nothing to do with me

liars as well

they try used my name in vain
heaven=neva eh

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyy
when destruction come don't tell me its we everything for you
could you imagen corupt representation

in matrix is so long error
deceivers and possessors

they are nothing at all

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#479958 Oct 3, 2013
who="Clay "
Well, as with any verse in the Bible, a sola scripturist can look and see whatever they desire.
The Holy Spirit guides the born agains to truth you say? lol. I don't think so. I read the nightly conversations amongst you all. You can't agree on half the theology, yet you masquerade as being in the same fold?
Onesiphorus is dead. Paul speaks of him as if he's giving his eulogy at his funeral. Past tense.
You have no business telling me any different. I read it and that's what I see.
fyi, it matters not if protestants oppose that verse. Obviously they need to. in fact, they need to oppose LOTS of verses, so they do. I also am aware that some Protestants agree with me that Paul prayed for a deceased man. Now what? Who's to decide?

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Paul neither prayed FOR OR TO the man. He laid down and embraced him as Elijah did the boy he raised from the dead. He declared...as Jesus did of Jairus' daughter...that,'his life is in him'.

Act 20:10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.
Act 20:11 When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
Act 20:12 And they brought the young man alive, and were not a little comforted.

KayMarie
truth

Claremont, Australia

#479959 Oct 3, 2013
corupt posessors as they are been before

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

if i need i will destroy all of you
who say that
not me

evillllllllllllllllllll
truth

Claremont, Australia

#479960 Oct 3, 2013
in this city nothing exist
as well entire universe will be destroy

more you produce anger within me
certainly comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee
marge

Leesburg, GA

#479961 Oct 3, 2013
Question: "Is baptism necessary for salvation? What is baptismal regeneration?"

Answer: Baptismal regeneration is the belief that a person must be baptized in order to be saved. It is our contention that baptism is an important step of obedience for a Christian, but we adamantly reject baptism as being required for salvation. We strongly believe that each and every Christian should be water baptized by immersion. Baptism illustrates a believer’s identification with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. Romans 6:3-4 declares,“Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.” The action of being immersed in the water illustrates dying and being buried with Christ. The action of coming out of the water pictures Christ’s resurrection.

Requiring anything in addition to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation is a works-based salvation. To add anything to the gospel is to say that Jesus' death on the cross was not sufficient to purchase our salvation. To say we must be baptized in order to be saved is to say we must add our own good works and obedience to Christ's death in order to make it sufficient for salvation. Jesus' death alone paid for our sins (Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus' payment for our sins is appropriated to our “account” by faith alone (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, baptism is an important step of obedience after salvation but cannot be a requirement for salvation.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-salvation...
marge

Leesburg, GA

#479962 Oct 3, 2013
Baptismal regeneration is not a biblical concept. Baptism does not save from sin but from a bad conscience. In 1 Peter 3:21, Peter clearly taught that baptism was not a ceremonial act of physical purification, but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. Baptism is the symbol of what has already occurred in the heart and life of one who has trusted Christ as Savior (Romans 6:3-5; Galatians 3:27; Colossians 2:12). Baptism is an important step of obedience that every Christian should take. Baptism cannot be a requirement for salvation. To make it such is an attack on the sufficiency of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-salvation...
Human Being

Church Point, LA

#479963 Oct 3, 2013
marge wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about praying to / speaking to the dead?"
Answer: Praying to the dead is strictly forbidden in the Bible. Deuteronomy 18:11 tells us that anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.” The story of Saul consulting a medium to bring up the spirit of the dead Samuel resulted in his death “because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance”(1 Samuel 28:1-25; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14). Clearly, God has declared that such things are not to be done.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/praying-to-the-de...
marge

Peace

The question is always raised then, why did Jesus talk to the dead, especially to Elijah and Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration?(Remember Jesus commanded Lazarus to be raised?)

If you make Jesus the exception to the rule, then there is no raising of the dead.

Generally what you and others have is a phobia, a good phobia against consulting with the dead in pursuit of selfish ends, which includes clairvoyance, tarot cards, casting runes, I Ching....
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#479964 Oct 3, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Open your cake hole yeah how horrible of me. Next time I'll just say open your mouth.
The facts are in front of you about what took place with Just Sayin and I. Your silence doesn't surprise me.
gif freaked out on Regina thinking she'd used the term. Maybe you should tell gif it was you? I'm sure he'd give you a wink and a pass since you aren't a Catholic.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#479965 Oct 3, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Chuck used the term referring to Regina.
Preston noticed that Just Sayin was making fun of me that same day.

Preston's post to me: lol, I just posted Rev 1:5 to the kook in TN, who mocked your speaking of the shedding of Blood.

**so Tony...was Regina comments to me wrong? She said Just Sayin was pointing out my hypocrisy.

Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#479966 Oct 3, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol. ignorance is one of your virtues, isn't it?
an embryo is not a fertilized egg(so don't go there if you don't understand simple Biological terms).
and ananias had to have said that on his own since I have showed you a million or more times that Jesus never said anything like that to him concerning paul. now you show me where jesus says to Ananias to baptize Paul. ACTS CHAPTER 9
And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.
11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
you see, I am not like you and clay, first I am not stupid, second I don't lie and make up things that are not in the Bible for all to read.
"second I don't lie and make up things that are not in the Bible for all to read."

Did God place an embryo OR a fertilized egg in her womb? In either case, you insist that Mary's egg wan't used and God placed the already conceived Jesus in her so she could be used as an incubator and nothing more.

The bible says "you will conceive IN YOUR WOMB...", the bible says "why do you tarry, rise and be baptized and wash away your sins..."

You say "NO!!!, YOU CATHOLICS ARE LYING!!!!"

Keep strokin' preston....

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479967 Oct 3, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Tony. Do you understand? I am not talking about the dead. I am talking about my coming an eyelash away from dying.Christ was there in my heart and there was peace. How can you miss that point to propagandize about something I wasn't even talking about. am not talking about Topix . I am talking about real life. Not little comments and arguments. Remember cause you will be there one day. If my testimony about Christ is less important than you making a point about praying to the dead which was not even talking about well well.
One time..I had been in the hospital for days hoping my condition would resolve (( obstruction))
I got critical ..had emergency surgery at night .

I had found my way just at year .

The anesthesiologist ..then the surgeon talked to me ..I'm quite sure I told them both God bless you ( was on pain shot )))

I was afraid ..But I remember clearly a verse I had heard fairly recently ..ABSENT FROM THE BODY ..PRESENT WITH LORD....I became very calm ...And peaceful ..

It's hard to explain ...I knew I'd be fine either way ..

Thank you Lord ..almost forgot that ..thanks Nick
Human Being

Church Point, LA

#479968 Oct 3, 2013
marge wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about praying for the dead?"
Answer: Praying for the dead is not a biblical concept. Our prayers have no bearing on someone once he or she has died. The reality is that, at the point of death, one’s eternal destiny is confirmed. Either he is saved through faith in Christ and is in heaven where he is experiencing rest and joy in God’s presence, or he is in torment in hell. The story of the rich man and Lazarus the beggar provides us with a vivid illustration of this truth. Jesus plainly used this story to teach that after death the unrighteous are eternally separated from God, that they remember their rejection of the gospel, that they are in torment, and that their condition cannot be remedied (Luke 16:19-31).
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/praying-for-the-d...
marge

Peace

One of the "problems" about praying for the dead, is to know "when" is someone dead?

For the most part we consider it in physical terms. But if that were so, then Lazarus after 3 days being "dead" was not DEAD, but merely "sleeping".

I don't like the word "sleeping" but it is because we do not have a definition of dead/DEAD.

So it would not have been good for his sisters and friends to pray for Lazarus, and the many others raised from the dead?

Isn't it that we are imposing our own definitions on death, which actually diminish what it really is in our own minds?

To pray for the dead to God, may be just as effective as the dead "talking" to God for our welfare.... Why is it that we are to remember the dead?

Peace

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#479969 Oct 3, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Name calling seems to be the "only thing" you bible only "fundies"
rely upon when you are "backed up against the wall--with biblical and historical PROVEN, AUTHENTICATED, AND VERIFIABLE TRUTH!
After being raised for over 35 years as a bible only Protestant, I know this to be a FACT!!!
Please don't point any fingers unless your own house is cleaned!!!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#479970 Oct 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay "
Well, as with any verse in the Bible, a sola scripturist can look and see whatever they desire.
The Holy Spirit guides the born agains to truth you say? lol. I don't think so. I read the nightly conversations amongst you all. You can't agree on half the theology, yet you masquerade as being in the same fold?
Onesiphorus is dead. Paul speaks of him as if he's giving his eulogy at his funeral. Past tense.
You have no business telling me any different. I read it and that's what I see.
fyi, it matters not if protestants oppose that verse. Obviously they need to. in fact, they need to oppose LOTS of verses, so they do. I also am aware that some Protestants agree with me that Paul prayed for a deceased man. Now what? Who's to decide?
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Paul neither prayed FOR OR TO the man. He laid down and embraced him as Elijah did the boy he raised from the dead. He declared...as Jesus did of Jairus' daughter...that,'his life is in him'.
Act 20:10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.
Act 20:11 When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
Act 20:12 And they brought the young man alive, and were not a little comforted.
KayMarie
Kay, we are talking about something different than what you are referring to. we are talking about onesiphorus in the book of Tim.the catholics believe that he was already dead when paul wrote to Tim. tho the Bible never states that as being factual
chuck

Dublin, OH

#479971 Oct 3, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
gif freaked out on Regina thinking she'd used the term. Maybe you should tell gif it was you? I'm sure he'd give you a wink and a pass since you aren't a Catholic.
You not answering my question about Regina makes me think you want it to go away?

Remember when you were stomping your feet like a 3 year old girl when I didn't rebuke OX for what he said about Mary?

You'd say something to another catholic if they were wrong, now wouldn't you Tony?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#479972 Oct 3, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I am right...you have no testimony...
If you are not sincere in your heart, then why should nick share anything with you.

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