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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650045 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479585 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Thanks once again CIB.
You're still avoiding my inquiry. Do you and the other protestants here agree that baptism is the "means of receiving four basic gifts: the remission of sins, deliverance from death, regeneration, and the bestowal of the Holy Spirit."
Baptism is obedience ..after one has,confessed
.believed ..been born again..

In and of itself ..it shows death and rebirth ..But it is,not saving ..

That's,what I learned ..But I'm not a,preacher .

Unlike sacraments don t at this,age or that ..it comes,AFTER profession
Of faith ..

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#479586 Oct 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I don't hate you or any other Protestant, bible only (fundie), New Age follower, agnostic, atheists, or WHATEVER you decide to call yourself. It is your "ongoing" distorting, manipulating and deceiving others regarding the TRUTH TRUE HISTORY, the INTERPRETAION of the Bible and of TRUE SALVATION in Jesus Christ in and through His One (and only one) True Apostolic Catholic Church. If you chose to follow your "extended" list of anti-catholic writers from the sources that you gave me---GO AHEAD--BE MY GUEST--IT IS YOUR CHOICE. We as Catholic "all know" where these 21century (pro protestant) writers (that you follow) are coming from and where (both you and they) are going, and there is NOT ONE of us Catholics who puts ANY CREDIBILITY into these "post reformation"(so-called) bible experts. The TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His historially and biblically proven Catholic Church has be substantiated and verified over and over and over again for over 2000 years. And just because (YOU and your ANTI-CATHOLIC WRITERS) decide to re-write Church History and bible interpretation, to fit your own vengeance, hostility and hate against the TRUTH of Jesus Christs Catholic Church, WILL NOT,"HAS NOT, NOR WILL EVER" change the TRUTH of Church History and TRUE interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Heretics, hypocrites, bigots, false teachers and preachers have "come and gone" for over 2000 years-----YET--- THE CHURCH LIVES ON----Just like Jesus HIMSELF, said it would in Matthew 16!!!!
You must have a problem reading, that is the only thing I can think of when you posted this:

" If you chose to follow your "extended" list of anti-catholic writers from the sources that you gave me"

I didn't give you any "extended" listing of any sort.

Please stop lying about me and promoting hatred.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#479587 Oct 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Your one true Apostolic Church ...
that is all you post about...
I don't need to say anything else (other than) repeating the same TRUE (over and over and over again) of TRUE Church history and the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the bible that was given to ALL OF US by the Early Church Fathers (who wrote it, and interpreted it in 382, 393 AND 397 AD. The same bible interpretation that you twist, manipulate, and have distorted the meaning since the Reformation to your own demise and destruction. Since you have "little or nothing" to back up your bible only (contradicting and inconsistent) beliefs,(burger flipping) bible verses,(one after the other), then adding your own (anti-catholic) interpretation to them is the ONLY thing you have that keeps your "bible only boat" from sinking and in a constant spin, with confusion chaos and contradiction with your other 42,000 "fundies" (going around and around in circles). After 35 years, as a bible only Protestant,....(THANKFULLY) Our Lord Jesus Christ, with the leading of the Holy Spirit, led me out of this (half-truth) Christianity, into the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH, in Jesus Christ, in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church. Daily Prayers for you and Kay Marie!!!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479588 Oct 1, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, sure. what question would you like answered. hope it isn't where in the Bible it oks perverted sex acts, because nowhere would it approve of that. The condom issue had to do with keeping the sinner alive long enough ao Christ could save him. Saving his soul. But go ahead, im sorry. What's the question?
And hopefully keeping him.for.potentially killing someone else who had not yet repented ..on your example ..

I think.teens male and female have been sold s Bill.of goods
And no matter what they learn at home ..they may sin.
Many emulate moronic celebrities ..many think.they are in.love..many are,experimenting .

Thou shalt nOT KILL

prevent pregnancy and spread of disease .

DON'T USE BULLETS ..sensible
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#479589 Oct 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Baptism is obedience ..after one has,confessed
.believed ..been born again..
In and of itself ..it shows death and rebirth ..But it is,not saving ..
That's,what I learned ..But I'm not a,preacher .
Unlike sacraments don t at this,age or that ..it comes,AFTER profession
Of faith ..
So you don't agree with what the earliest Christians believed about baptism. I think I knew that.
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#479590 Oct 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Baptism is obedience ..after one has,confessed
.believed ..been born again..
In and of itself ..it shows death and rebirth ..But it is,not saving ..
That's,what I learned ..But I'm not a,preacher .
Unlike sacraments don t at this,age or that ..it comes,AFTER profession
Of faith ..

1 Peter 3:21

And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you—not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for[a] a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479592 Oct 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but I don't know where you get your info but it is wrong according to the Bible.
Andrew, the brother of peter was a disciple of John the Baptist and was Baptized by him of course, yet Later, after Andrew began to follow Jesus, Jesus gave to Andrew ,the Holy Ghost.
which indicates that water baptism never helped Andrew out one bit, and that unlike some beliefs today , the Holy Ghost was not present at Andrews baptizing. Jesus knew that, of course.
now if water baptism was sufficient for this very first disciple and follower, why was more(Holy Ghost) given him later?
Now if Peter and Paul could lay hands on men and they would receive the Holy Ghost, why couldnt Andrew and others also receive the Holy Ghost when john laid hands on them?
THAT is,Confirmation..the sacrament received around age 12 '

The Baptism vows renewed by the person..That were said at the Baptism ..by the godparents for he child ..

The idea is there But WHAT if the child does not have TRUE redeeming faith ...they learn he ritual with good intentions and HOPE the Holy Spirit
Becomes manifest within.each Child
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#479593 Oct 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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And hopefully keeping him.for.potentially killing someone else who had not yet repented ..on your example ..
I think.teens male and female have been sold s Bill.of goods
And no matter what they learn at home ..they may sin.
Many emulate moronic celebrities ..many think.they are in.love..many are,experimenting .
Thou shalt nOT KILL
prevent pregnancy and spread of disease .
DON'T USE BULLETS ..sensible
While I know this is off-topic for this forum, Rose, I believe that you frequent an abortion forum on topix and am wondering if you're aware of the fact that many contraceptives are abortifacients? They alter the lining of the uterus thereby preventing implantation of the fertilized egg (a baby). They actually cause an abortion. And I'm not talking about the morning after pill either. Don't be so quick to approve of contraception.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479594 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The pope in no way condoned homosexual acts, fornication, using condoms or any other form of artificial contraception, he merely said that a homosexual who is not going to procreate anyway may be helping to stop the spread of AIDS if he does use a condom. The person who would use one in order to avoid infecting the other person out of concern for their health is a step closer to seeing the value of human life than a person who won't use one because they don't care if they infect them. I find it troubling so many of you can't or won't see this.
SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THE POPE CONDONED anything

I agreed ..Thou shalt not kill.

Wow ..You agree your wrong..You disagree your wrong

This,is a sinful world ..And there are wrongs hat hurt yourself

And wrongs,that hurt others,.

The,second is worse IMO

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479595 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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So you don't agree with what the earliest Christians believed about baptism. I think I knew that.
I believe one MUST BELIEVE AND BE BAPTIZED ..profess,their faith in he Saviour ..be baptized ..

Make believers and baptize ...

Yes,I believe it should be in that order .

Some protestants baptize babies ..some dedicate them ..But most teach one must profess,Jesus as Saviour to be saved

Gave His,Only Son that those WHO BELIEVE...will HAVE eternal life..

Now,since we are all agreed Babies are no going anywhere BUT with

Jesus ..we know They do not believe ...yet .

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#479596 Oct 1, 2013
Clay wrote:
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But the Pope never said its ok for Catholics to use contraception. Ever. Do you seriously not think we can see what you're about, Ox?
You're a liar and a cheat; a manipulator of scripture. There is not one hint of Christ in anything you say. I don't get you.
Anyway, your only desire is to get under peoples skin and you almost did it with me .

The issue of contraception has always been a heavily contested issue in the Catholic Church. That’s why a headline in this morning’s Telegraph “The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift” stopped me in my tracks.
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Pure logic escapes you..

The Catholics had a ban on condoms..The Catholic ban on condoms affected only the Catholics!!!! The lifting of this ban affects only Catholics!!!!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#479597 Oct 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THE POPE CONDONED anything
I agreed ..Thou shalt not kill.
Wow ..You agree your wrong..You disagree your wrong
This,is a sinful world ..And there are wrongs hat hurt yourself
And wrongs,that hurt others,.
The,second is worse IMO
I'm making it clear that the pope did not approve the use of condoms as a means of birth control, regardless of the circumstances. Your posts seem to imply you think he is.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#479598 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
It's beyond you. Just walk away.
Thanks for proving my words...you cannot face facts..truth..

You need some work on your save face...its has no luster!!!!

Since: Jun 10

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#479599 Oct 1, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, sure. what question would you like answered. hope it isn't where in the Bible it oks perverted sex acts, because nowhere would it approve of that. The condom issue had to do with keeping the sinner alive long enough ao Christ could save him. Saving his soul. But go ahead, im sorry. What's the question?
Cute....

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479600 Oct 1, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
1 Peter 3:21
And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you—not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for[a] a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
BAPTism does NO CLEANSING ..YOU HAVE to BELIEVE it why would YOU. appeal to GOD...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#479601 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I'm making it clear that the pope did not approve the use of condoms as a means of birth control, regardless of the circumstances. Your posts seem to imply you think he is.
Most reasonably sane people understand, when you use a condom, if for the protection against any type of VD, HIV, the flu, ingrown toenails, it also prevents pregnancies...which is the act of birth control!!!!

It does not have a dial with settings for only VD HIV flu ingrown toenails protection, as well as, for only birth control.

Analogue: When you fire a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot into the head of a person, he is dead as a door nail...don't matter if you only intended to scare him!!!!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479602 Oct 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm making it clear that the pope did not approve the use of condoms as a means of birth control, regardless of the circumstances. Your posts seem to imply you think he is.
First I was,answering Hermi.. about what he,said about keeping a person
Alive ..
I said,I believe in contraception ..And,also snared,Ox ..

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. Using the no bullets,analog..a,good one IMO

These,people,are potentially killing each other . Make or female
Also said,I KNOW CATHOLICS. don t agree,..so I never said the POPE ,
Agreed with me ..

As,ONLY personal opinion ...I also think contraception ..can and dies,prevent abortion ....much worse,IMO...
Kills,babies and,souls,

And I'd not be surprised if this Pope agrees,..on that we,shall see,..

But neither Nick or I said he POPE was,condoning anything
Hurting another is,a bigger sin. IMO

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#479603 Oct 1, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
While I know this is off-topic for this forum, Rose, I believe that you frequent an abortion forum on topix and am wondering if you're aware of the fact that many contraceptives are abortifacients? They alter the lining of the uterus thereby preventing implantation of the fertilized egg (a baby). They actually cause an abortion. And I'm not talking about the morning after pill either. Don't be so quick to approve of contraception.
And here we go ..Going to say this,once
You want to talk abortion go there

Iud. Can do that ..I thunk the are bad

Pill STOPS,OVULATION ..no egg no baby ..a whole lot of CATHOLUCS use theme

Makes he body think your pregnant ..do you DOn't get a new egg .
If it fails,you may get pregnant which your body thinks you are ..

No egg no baby no abortion

Condoms ..no sperm..no baby ..no abortion ..if it fails pregnant ..

Neither of the last two causes abortion...

And using them most definitely prevents many pregnancies that result in abortion .

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#479604 Oct 1, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Your judging of me has completely destroyed your testimony if you ever had one.
You have judged your self before us all...

the Bible says .

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

. YOU REFUSE TO BRING YOU SELF UNDER SUBJECTION TO THE WORD.

MAKING DEROGATORY REMARKS

AGAINST ME DOES NOT ERASE YOUR OPEN SIN...

THE ONLY WAY TO BE FORGIVEN

IS TO CONFESS YOUR SINS UNTO GOD, AND SEEK FORGIVENESS...

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

YOU ARE MAKING IT VERY CLEAR TO ALL HERE IN THIS FORUM THAT YOUR SIN IS WILLFUL AND YOU ARE... UNREPENTANT...

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#479606 Oct 1, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You must have a problem reading, that is the only thing I can think of when you posted this:
" If you chose to follow your "extended" list of anti-catholic writers from the sources that you gave me"
I didn't give you any "extended" listing of any sort.
Please stop lying about me and promoting hatred.
The "list" is in the sources you gave me. Obviously you NEVER read any of them, since you don't have any idea as to what I am referring to. So, please stop playing youranti-catholic games with me New Age! I DID read both of the (below sources) that you posted and (ADDITIONALLY) researched the names, background and the "personal opinions" that these "so-called bible experts" editorialized

http//www.earlychristianwritin gs.com
http//www.earlychristianwritin gs.com/acts.ht

Your "one sided modernistic author and writer sources, were obviously ALL "born yesterday"....... EVERY ONE of these authors and writer who consider themselves to be biblical experts including: Udo Schnelle, Hans Conzelmann, Joseph Fitzmyer, F.F. Bruce, Echhard Plumacher, Helmet Koester, Steven Davies, Burton Mack, Raymond Brown, Ben Witherington ----EVERY ONE OF THEM are pro-protestant, bible only, anti-catholic writers and authors who even go so far as to write papers on "Debunking Christianity"...... ALL of these (enlightened bible interpreters) wrote from (1992-1998). Obviously, you just "threw these sources out" without reading them, since you don't seem to know ANYTHING about what I am referring to!! Again--- we, as Catholics (all know) where you are coming from and we know that they are attempting to "undermine and debunk the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH History and the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible. You are as "oblivious to the TRUTH as ever, which is "no surprise to ANY of us Catholics

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