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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658520 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#478821 Sep 27, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
Funny talking about the Holy Spirit here. Sunday at Mass was talk of the Holy Spirit being in each and everyone of us. If you let him in. Keep in mind the devil is always out there to entice you to his side.
Take care my friend and remember, Keep the faith baby....The Holy Spirit is inside each of us not just priests, clergy, pope, bishops, etc. but all of us.
Catholic and non CATHOLICS who are believers ..I agree ..all of us

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#478822 Sep 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose, Concerned has not gotten one single theological point correct. I am a 39 yr old catholic laity. I've only been into this stuff for a couple yrs, and I have no problem standing toe to toe with him. The man is so filled with pride that Jesus is not recognizable in him or anything he posts.
One of my biggest concerns with Protestantism is how they attach themselves to whatever charismatic preacher sways em. If the preacher is an articulate speaker or he moves them with his story telling skills, they say "look at him, he is called by God; the Holy Spirit is guiding him!"
Next think you know, your family is holed up in a compound with him and FBI agents are ready to storm the building.
The Bible warns us of men who'll come along and preach a different Gospel, or as I like to call it: a "conspiracy Christianity". That's what these guys are teaching. A conspiracy Christianity; a hidden secret Christianity or some other crap that didn't come to light because the evil Roman Church murdered billions and tortured everyone but those in the Church.
You were baptized a Catholic, go to Confession and then receive Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist and you'll be free. Trust me.
A lie..."You were baptized a Catholic, go to Confession and then receive Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist and you'll be free. Trust me."

A, There is no salvation in water..
B. Christ taught we are to confess to our Father in Heaven, in His name....catlicks confess to a man that is as great or greater sinner than they!!!!
C. There is nothing Holy about a cracker...
truth

Mount Lawley, Australia

#478823 Sep 27, 2013
Thank you very much you are my lovely friend.
To remind to be reprimand.
Please forgive me.
Where you see reprimand.

I cook old soup today with green vegetable as we call kupus-rastika.

I love my mother she do that for us kids many years.
In my house entering many times man which we call Lazo-Lazarus.
yeeeeee
He is been disable man who walk on hand and lags
poor and hungry.
I remember when my mother work very hard on midlle hot day she need cook lunch as well tired and so on..but bealive me my good mother first give lunch to Lazo then us..remember us Lazo when you entering in Kingdoom of Almighty God.
She replay to him..o did you need something else Lazo..love.
Oh he smile horible on all voice as could because poor Lazo never see any girl.

My mother my good mother she is been bless as well
happy person.
Our lovely Lazo usual sit with Roma people go far away when collect money from others as Mercy then spend there live with them few weeks as King with lots of nice girl.
When he spend money he return to us on every lunch.

Are you for sure Confee hunger for Almighty God not exist as help every day in human life?

see
Poor and madness..what our lovely God say
about that.
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#478824 Sep 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be the most arrogant woman on this thread. Its clouding your brain.
-I could care less what Lutherans say is inspired scripture and their Bible.
-I also do not care what the post Christian Jews say is inspired when they established a canon in 90 AD.
- Jews living around the time of Christ had no official canon. And the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the Essenes considered Tobit and Sirach as inspired scripture.
-people like you are exactly why Jesus left us with a Church and not a list of Books. You do not know how to handle the Bible. You're only relevant to you and a few other gullible victims on this thread.
Your constant lies are sickening. I pray for all you buy into your deception.
Btw, do you really believe the Earth is 5,000 yrs old? Lol The next time you call someone an idiot, I'm going to spew out whatever beverage I'm drinking- hopefully its a Heinekin.
Once again you show your arrogance and miss what the Bible teaches for you have not the Spirit that Jesus promised to those who truly make him LORD.

You measure you Christian faith in Man made years, connected to by a man made institution.

As soon as you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit you are connected to the whole church past present, and future.

Jeorme and Cyril both believed the Jews Cannon had been fixed by in the 24 books or 22 depending how two of the books were counted separte or attached to two others.

YOU CLEARLY have never studied either of these men's writings.

Once again all you have got is name calling. Sad for proof for those reading along you are incapable of defending the RCC sects assertions.

Thanks for proving me right in a round about way.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#478825 Sep 27, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not he POPE that saves ..it's Jesus
Too much ridiculousness to count. The church never remotely taught any such rubbish as your quote above. You are very deeply doctrinated into the realm of spewing nonsense. It seems Grace is to be anti-Catholic. Luther is your Father he gave you your novel doctrines not ever taught so for 1500 years nobody was saved until you folks came along.

As for your conjecture that the printing press and revelation were from God. Your Father Martin Luther speaks for himself. Emboldened by the invention of the Gatling Gun and the Prince who did not want to pay taxes to the King. They burned churches, looted and divided up the booty and land that was confiscated. They saw an opportunity to free themselves of morality. LUther turned on the very peasants whom he used to fuel his venture and slaughtered them. He allied with Humanists who distanced themselves from him later on. King Henry would follow because not being granted a divorce he would stretch, quarter, disembowel and hang St Thomas Moore who delivered the message. Still today you cannot be a Prime Minister in the UK if you are Catholic. Which is Why Tony Blair converted after he stepped down.

The printing press was invented by a Catholic and the bible was published in more than 1 language before the reformation. 1/2 the world still can't read and yet you want us to believe God caused the gospel to be spread to more because bibles were printed? BIG STRETCH of imagination. The early church did not use a kjv in every language to spread the bible which wasnt even put together for almost 400 years. A bible in todays terms before the printing would be about $20,000 Im sure you would all be able to have one.

You make it sound like it was ez for anyone to just tell an emperor or King what they could or could not do. It seems you forget that Christianity wasnt legal and the church was involved with the States of the time. If not then how would you even be able to get it legalized and stop persecution? You forget the Muslims rolled through the Middle East, conquered virtually all of Spain and were 1/2 way through France before they were pushed back. Was that Gods plan too? Make sure that the penalty of death would be on you if you owned a bible in Saudi Arabia?

Sorry I dont think all the extra bibles got anywhere because of the reformation let alone people to understand what it says. Its not like people just pick it up and understand it all provided they can read. Many people couldnt in the time of the Apostles either. They learned by hearing.

So no I dont buy your theory of God used the reformation to get the message to more people than the church which reached around the known world not just for politics. You seem to think the govt or emperors or Kings didnt meddle? When the Roman Empire collapsed there was chaous. The only thing to bring some semblence of order was the church. When economies collapse and people are hungry and opressed it leads to men like Hitler rising to power. The communists persectuted the Orthodox in Russia. The chinese try to control the Catholic church. It would be very odd if you dont believe churches still try to influence politics and infuse your beliefs into the system.

Protestants didnt offer anymore freedom and Catholics were treated harshly in America, but you should know it was a Catholic in America who convinced the French (Catholics) to fight against the British for Independence. It was no surprise that it took alot for Protestants to accept voting for an Irish Catholic in Kennedy. Irish and Catholic. 2 strikes against him. Catholics had to start their own schools. Catholics in Mexico have been persecuted harshly. No I dont believe Luther was sent by God but bloodshed and division abundant.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#478826 Sep 27, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
From the outside your church looks evil, so it makes sense that God called her out.
And that's her testimony, she got saved after she left, which is something a born-again would never lie about.
It was decades after I had stopped being religious,at all .

I prayed sometime s

sent my kid to CHRISTIAN school.

But I did nit have true saving Faith for many years,after I crusade practicing Catholicism

Why God wanted this,sinner...moved my heart and Spirit towards Him.
I have no Idea,..I did not deserve His mercy ...And,I thank God He
Gave it

GOD,BLESS you Marge

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#478827 Sep 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you "can't prove God's TRUE words" based upon your bible only "editorialized interpretation"..There are 42,000+contradicting and inconsistent bible only splitered, divided and fractured denominations that are a "hopdge-podge" of RELATIVE TRUTH'S and yours Confrinting is just ONE OF THEM!!!. The reason is that Sola Scriptura has ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS of biblical or historical TRUTH to back up and confirm ANYTHING that it believes and teaches! You can't even prove (in the bible) that God chose to transmit HIS divine and inspired Word ONLY IN THE BIBLE. It is NOT ANYWHERE--yet you keep preaching this "17th century "man-made doctrine of half-truth, half-heresy Christianity---ONLY because of your (anti-catholic) vindictive, hostile and hatred that has corrupted your mind, heart and soul. I/we as Catholics continue to pray, each at daily Mass, that the Spirit of Jesus Christ will (eventually) lead you " out of your bondage" of hatred for Jesus Christ HIMSELF and HIS One True Catholic Church.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Since the man of God is "thoroughly furnished" by all scripture, inspired of God, unto good works....what else is necessary????!!!! How can he be more "thoroughly furnished"????!!!!

thoroughly: completely

Only Catholics do not believe God!!!!!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#478828 Sep 27, 2013
Good nite and God bless you ALL
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#478829 Sep 27, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my last And other answers regarding what your Church had become .
In LOVE NOT FORCE...
Since you offer no response to the clarifications I gave on the misinformation you were spewing I have no choice to believe that you choose to indoctrinate yourself further in the many lies and rhetoric which have gleefully consumed from your so called grace filled brethren.
As for your conjecture that the printing press and revelation were from God. Your Father Martin Luther speaks for himself. Emboldened by the invention of the Gatling Gun and the Prince who did not want to pay taxes to the King. They burned churches, looted and divided up the booty and land that was confiscated. They saw an opportunity to free themselves of morality. LUther turned on the very peasants whom he used to fuel his venture and slaughtered them. He allied with Humanists who distanced themselves from him later on. King Henry would follow because not being granted a divorce he would stretch, quarter, disembowel and hang St Thomas Moore who delivered the message. Still today you cannot be a Prime Minister in the UK if you are Catholic. Which is Why Tony Blair converted after he stepped down.

The printing press was invented by a Catholic and the bible was published in more than 1 language before the reformation. 1/2 the world still can't read and yet you want us to believe God caused the gospel to be spread to more because bibles were printed? BIG STRETCH of imagination. The early church did not use a kjv in every language to spread the bible which wasnt even put together for almost 400 years. A bible in todays terms before the printing would be about $20,000 Im sure you would all be able to have one.

You make it sound like it was ez for anyone to just tell an emperor or King what they could or could not do. It seems you forget that Christianity wasnt legal and the church was involved with the States of the time. If not then how would you even be able to get it legalized and stop persecution? You forget the Muslims rolled through the Middle East, conquered virtually all of Spain and were 1/2 way through France before they were pushed back. Was that Gods plan too? Make sure that the penalty of death would be on you if you owned a bible in Saudi Arabia?

Sorry I dont think all the extra bibles got anywhere because of the reformation let alone people to understand what it says. Its not like people just pick it up and understand it all provided they can read. Many people couldnt in the time of the Apostles either. They learned by hearing.

So no I dont buy your theory of God used the reformation to get the message to more people than the church which reached around the known world not just for politics. You seem to think the govt or emperors or Kings didnt meddle? When the Roman Empire collapsed there was chaous. The only thing to bring some semblence of order was the church. When economies collapse and people are hungry and opressed it leads to men like Hitler rising to power. The communists persectuted the Orthodox in Russia. The chinese try to control the Catholic church. It would be very odd if you dont believe churches still try to influence politics and infuse your beliefs into the system.

Protestants didnt offer anymore freedom and Catholics were treated harshly in America, but you should know it was a Catholic in America who convinced the French (Catholics) to fight against the British for Independence. It was no surprise that it took alot for Protestants to accept voting for an Irish Catholic in Kennedy. Irish and Catholic. 2 strikes against him. Catholics had to start their own schools. Catholics in Mexico have been persecuted harshly. No I dont believe Luther was sent by God but bloodshed and division abundant.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#478830 Sep 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
Confrinting: UNLESS YOU CAN VALIDATE AND GIVE SCRIPTURE (book, chapter and verse) FROM THE BIBLE BEFORE ALL OF US ON THIS FORUM that Sola Scriptura or bible only was the ONLY SOURCE that was taught and proclaimed BY the Apostles in Jesus Christs 1st Churches in the NEW Testament (Antioch, Ephesus, Corinth, Galatia, Thessalonica, etc AND IT IS THE ONE (AND ONLY) SOURCE OF FOUNDATION FOR GODS WORD, THAT YOU CLAIM, THEN "ALL" OF YOUR BIBLE TEACHING AND PREACHING IS ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING BUT EDITORIALIZED "RELATIVE TRUTH"!!!!----JUST AS I THOUGHT, THERE IS "NO PROOF"!!!
Proof that the Bible alone is necessary...

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Since the man of God is "thoroughly furnished" by all scripture, inspired of God, unto good works....what else is necessary????!!!! How can he be more "thoroughly furnished"????!!!!

thoroughly: completely
truth

Mount Lawley, Australia

#478831 Sep 27, 2013
Deceivers and possessors are evil.

They liked posses and play eternity as your Almighty who save you don't you!
Don't be naiv.

evil is evil
evil want multiply your image used your soul
as part of game..not as real Creator
as evil devilish satanic game..

not as real Creator

Real Creator not created us for suffering.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#478832 Sep 27, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Too much ridiculousness to count. The church never remotely taught any such rubbish as your quote above. You are very deeply doctrinated into the realm of spewing nonsense. It seems Grace is to be anti-Catholic. Luther is your Father he gave you your novel doctrines not ever taught so for 1500 years nobody was saved until you folks came along.
As for your conjecture that the printing press and revelation were from God. Your Father Martin Luther speaks for himself. Emboldened by the invention of the Gatling Gun and the Prince who did not want to pay taxes to the King. They burned churches, looted and divided up the booty and land that was confiscated. They saw an opportunity to free themselves of morality. LUther turned on the very peasants whom he used to fuel his venture and slaughtered them. He allied with Humanists who distanced themselves from him later on. King Henry would follow because not being granted a divorce he would stretch, quarter, disembowel and hang St Thomas Moore who delivered the message. Still today you cannot be a Prime Minister in the UK if you are Catholic. Which is Why Tony Blair and understand it all provided they can read. Many people couldnt in the time of the Apostles either. They learned by hearing.
So no I dont buy your theory of God used the reformation to get the message to more people than the church which reached around the known world not just for politics. You seem to think the govt or emperors or Kings didnt meddle? When the Roman Empire collapsed there was chaous. The only thing to bring some semblence of order was the church. When economies collapse and people are hungry and opressed it leads to men like Hitler rising to power. The communists persectuted the Orthodox in Russia. The chinese try to control the Catholic church. It would be very odd if you dont believe churches still try to influence politics and infuse your beliefs into the system.
Protestants didnt offer anymore freedom and Catholics were treated harshly in America, but you should know it was a Catholic in America who convinced the French (Catholics) to fight against the British for Independence. It was no surprise that it took alot for Protestants to accept voting for an Irish Catholic in Kennedy. Irish and Catholic. 2 strikes against him. Catholics had to start their own schools. Catholics in Mexico have been persecuted harshly. No I dont believe Luther was sent by God but bloodshed and division abundant.
edit for space

You are either lying, don't know your catechism, or both!!!!

816 "The sole Church of Christ [is that] which our Savior, after his Resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care, commissioning him and the other apostles to extend and rule it.... This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him."267

The Second Vatican Council's Decree on Ecumenism explains: "For it is through Christ's Catholic Church alone, which is the universal help toward salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained. It was to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, that we believe that our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant, in order to establish on earth the one Body of Christ into which all those should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the People of God."268

In short...they say "If you ain't Catholic...you ain't going to Heaven!!!!"
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#478833 Sep 27, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh give me a break. Your sources are lame...William Webster? Lol. I asked you to show where the popes condemned the Assumption, no response. Yeah, I saw Webster's argument, now that's lame. He looks at the list of books condemned and decides the doctrine is condemned because of the title, yet has no clue what the book says and why the writer of it was condemned. Where do you get your 40 million number ? Respectable historians would laugh at that number. That's almost half the population of Europe. I'm sure John Foxe and William Webster want to lay the Black Plague at the doorstep of the Catholic Church.. What a joke. Why the crusades? Because Muslims were conquering Christian lands, yeah, Constantinople was a tragedy, and we're still ashamed of it, but no pope ordered that horrible sin. You grab on to some goofy conspiracy theory and build on that. Find someone respectable to back you up, your sources are lame.
The footnote was in the post dumb dumb that is why I don't jump at your posts you make it up as you, you ignore that which you can not refute.

Because you call it lame it of no consequence to me, it is for you however as I am here to show those seekers that your sect is false.

So keep saying its lame, think in your imaginary world that I have be debunked, but those truly seeking truth can see right through your name calling and see easily you can not defend your sects assertions.

Fact your Pope created a special order of Priests to administer torture (with a RC produced manual on how to do it) and should they not confess were handed over to the local government and executed. It was by Papal Bull. this went on for over 400+ years and the RCC does not deny this fact.

The RCC does not dispute this and this FACT alone by itself proves your sect is not the one true yadda yadda.

It violates the NT teachings of Jesus and his apostles at every turn.

Believe what you want but any rational thinking person with any sense of truth knows you can't be the one true blah blah and have this for your sects history. It is beyond reason.
truth

Mount Lawley, Australia

#478834 Sep 27, 2013
it is tribe against tribe and nation against nation
as you poor brasilian try explain dived church against church person against person as you except evil satanic words..
yepppppppppppppppppppppppppppp pppppppppppppppppppp
its full explanation

one finger sense finish up to continent to continent
jaaaaaaaaaaaaa

what a about you
Are you going stop that not to happen?
-with your evil wind vitlich power

ai aiii aiiiiiiiiiiii

3000 years ago in India 4 wind altar
marge

Leesburg, GA

#478835 Sep 27, 2013
Concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
The footnote was in the post dumb dumb that is why I don't jump at your posts you make it up as you, you ignore that which you can not refute.
Because you call it lame it of no consequence to me, it is for you however as I am here to show those seekers that your sect is false.
So keep saying its lame, think in your imaginary world that I have be debunked, but those truly seeking truth can see right through your name calling and see easily you can not defend your sects assertions.
Fact your Pope created a special order of Priests to administer torture (with a RC produced manual on how to do it) and should they not confess were handed over to the local government and executed. It was by Papal Bull. this went on for over 400+ years and the RCC does not deny this fact.
The RCC does not dispute this and this FACT alone by itself proves your sect is not the one true yadda yadda.
It violates the NT teachings of Jesus and his apostles at every turn.
Believe what you want but any rational thinking person with any sense of truth knows you can't be the one true blah blah and have this for your sects history. It is beyond reason.
Even today they try to 'Lord it over us' this board alone proves they are false and Evil.

ONLY JESUS SAVES!
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#478836 Sep 27, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds anti protestant literature ...But no one here worships Luther .
I don't even know what all he nailed up..But that's what I'd believe he said ...not gossip ...just my opinion .
I know he was against selling indulgences
He also REALIZED WHILE DOING A GRAVE PENANCE ..That no person can make up for sin ..how much for what .
ONLY ONE SACRIFICE WAS WORTHY..AND PAID ...OR we'd all be in he'll.
He had the courage to speak up...he was not perfect..
But on some things,whereas right ...
You cannot make kings,and allow them to torture people and NEVER EXCOMMUNICATE THEM..
SORRY but I really BELIEVE the Church needed to change this .
And things HAVE CHANGED IN THE CHURCH ...English Mass ..bible study
The CHURCH does good things ..But wrong too.
And God used. All believers..
I pray daily to know truth when I read it or post it ...
From another post there have always been loons ..it seriously mental.people who use God to explain evil..
Your Borgia was one ..those who allowed the Inquistion .
The terrorists in the planes ...
But if you follow the true words of Christ ...Believe in Him ...be born again ..
Ask the FATHER IN HIS NAME .....how can you be wrong ..
It's not he POPE that saves ..it's Jesus
Proof Dust Storm Clay etc. are dumb dumbs

We don't claim our sects our denominations are the one true Yadda Yadda.

So when he posts atrocities one sect, one denomination has committed in the past it is here nor there for us as we already know they are not the one, we know they are not the one true Church, he is preaching to the choir as we know the one true church is a spiritual body and can be found in many evangelical protestant sects and perhaps the RCC.

So when he posts the bad things Luther committed or any other sect he is Judging his sect the RCC even harsher because his SECT has committed more atrocities and got more doctrine wrong then any other Christian sect in history.

But because the RCC used Papal armies for hundreds of years wiped out the opposition contrary to the word of God, committed genocide to maintain control and thus has a 1000 year history he thinks that makes the RCC the one true church.

His PRIDE is beyond comprehension and I believe is the same demonic spirit that dwelt in the Pharisees in Jesus's day

He is delusional at best and for sure dumb.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#478837 Sep 27, 2013
Lets just preach Jesus for a couple days, maybe then they will get IT.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#478838 Sep 27, 2013
Maybe then Hojo will stop saying 'through the church'.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#478839 Sep 27, 2013
Hey Rose, instead of praying about lets just do it and have a real church right here! Everyone can take there turn preachin about JESUS and His full authority and power to Save one completely and forever. May God Bless you my dear sister:)
marge

Leesburg, GA

#478840 Sep 27, 2013
Maybe Hank won't say water baptism saves anymore.

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