Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478272 Sep 25, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Please, Nasl, I've had enough. In fact, way more than my share.
I could have given you advice about how to care for your wife because I was the sole caregiver for my bed-ridden father for over two years before he died. He had had two major strokes and God knows how many TIAs. They affected his legs, he could no longer walk; also his bowels, his bladder, his arm and hands. In the middle of it all, I broke my ankle and was dealing with other health issues. Then he contracted MRSA in the hospital or rehab. It was a nightmare. He suffered a great deal. But I figured you knew what to do. She's your wife, after all. No one knows better than you how to love her. If you don't, no one can tell you how.
There are several people on this forum who suffer in silence, Nasl. They might mention it once or twice, but that's it. They don't make a fuss about it. We pray for them as well, we just don't say much, if anything, about it. I do care or else I would have said nothing. I was very sad to hear about her and still am. I also feel for you as you must be devastated. Nevertheless, if it makes you feel better to belittle and ridicule me, there's nothing I can do about that. And, yes, of course I knew you would read my post. It is a forum after all. Maybe you would like it better if I gushed all over you and made myself look good in the eyes of....men??
Hi Regina - your post has been read and noted.

We all have difficulties in life. If one continues to dwell int he difficulties, one will continue to have difficulties.

I've chosen to move past the difficulties that encroach my life, including and not limited to - dealing with them directly.

You take to prayer, I take to action.

FYI - my wife is not bed-ridden, and a very willing participant in continuing with her life - all the while knowing I am with her every step of the way.

You sound like you took that path too, when you care for your family member - which is Self.

Twisting YOUR actions into some god-given talent received through a holy divine entity is bullshite and you know it, but just can't come to terms to admit it.

Like I said before - your well wishes were appreciated, but that is all you are going to get from me, because in truth, you hav no clue on why you are "sad for her", except only to give yourself a ruse - and to appease others on this forum that "you care".

If you care enough - how 'bout send my wife prayers directly. Unlike Star who sends them to the spirit world, thinking that her special request will get to her - during some point in her life or after she dies.

Really? Is this the best you got - Feel for an anonymous poster on an anonymous forum, when you haven't any contact with the person at all.

You are a classic gullible Catholic. Never researching, but always giving the lip service to those who YOU think are having unfortunate times.

Typical.

BTW - all of your statements are related to Self.

Learn it, live it, love it.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God" - Jesus

Why don't you believe Jesus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478273 Sep 25, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Maybe you would like it better if I gushed all over you and made myself look good in the eyes of....men??
BTW - to comment upon this statement....

In the least, you, for the first time, admitted in some aspect, you do believe men. This is the first step many refuse to take, because it does affect your belief, directly.

Good for you.

Now if you can just continue to realize and understand that is it just a first step on a long journey.

Will you take the next steps?

Self.
Clay

United States

#478274 Sep 25, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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At that time, all Christians were in the Church. It wasn't called Catholic yet, but acquired the name a few decades later. There were some dissenters who began teaching error and heresy. They called themselves Christians, but were not in the Church. Christ founded a Church, not Christianity. What she's promoting is protestantism, which is of course an error and many orthodox Christians consider it to be heresy.
That's why I didn't say 'Catholic'. I was more or less highlighting the 'Church' definition as understood by the Orthodox as well as Catholics (and the first 1600 yrs of Christianity in general.)
Apostolic succession.

You're right, she stated the Protestant definition of a Church.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478275 Sep 25, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus didn't start your church. he never would have approved of such EVIL!!!!
Jese didn't start any churches - men did.

They used portions of Jesus to start a theology they thought was suitable for the times.

As time moved forward, other men decided to get in on the ruse and "corrected" that which they thought needed to be corrected.

Eventually, after many years of men gathering and debating, a canon was formed, that is basically used by all of Christianity.

Men giving other men a belief, and men accepting this path.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478276 Sep 25, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Surprise the liberal Catholics, are Catholics in name only.[btw Pelosi has been warned by her Bishop.[1Cor.11:27-29] She can be Catholic but CANNOT receive Jesus until she followers HIS teachings.]
The veil of deception continues......especially when those scolding others for not believing Jesus' teachings, are of the same cloth.

DOH!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#478277 Sep 25, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I attended Hooked on Moronic University.I graduated Magna Cum Laude which I had to earn by not passing gas for 1 year in class.I played Hunchback on the football team.We never won a game cause our scorekeeper at Home games didn't know his numbers.It was nor helpful that we were taught when we got possession of the ball we ha to say "Mother may I" before we could cross the scrimmage line.I was thrown off the team for taking too many Barney Flintstone vitamins.I missed a lot of home games because each time a home game was scheduled I suited up and wated at my house but noone showed up.
I awakened at 3AM today and immediately knew that I owed you an apology.

I used the word "whopper"..which can be defined as a "gross untruth"....or "something exceptionally big or remarkable."

My use of the word was meant to say that the typo was "exceptional and remarkable"....but it could also be read to mean that the info given was a "gross untruth".

Ah apologize...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478278 Sep 25, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Am I special?!! LOL
:-D
We need to pray for both, I'm sure they will be going thru a lot.
I'm sure we will at times - JUST LIKE EVERYONE.

DOH!!

C'mon Star, your self-righteous attitude is probably the main reason I left Catholicism - I couldn't stand when others think they know others better than the ones going through the situations.

Go on, pat yourself on the back and run along now.

May I suggest something?

Take the time to understand what you say, before you post it. Try to understand the perception of those reading what you write, BEFORE you post your "exchange".

Maybe then you will realize that you really don't have all the answers, and in fact, your answers are very limited in content.

*sighs*

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God" - Jesus
Dan

Omaha, NE

#478279 Sep 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Your diversion has been noted along with your other dishonest tactics.
What diversion?

It's the same question you demand response to.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#478280 Sep 25, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Geeze LTM...I can only extend my best wishes to your situation. IF I could, I would snap my fingers and make everything well, but I just can't...but I really wish I could...truly...I feel for you folks...you will never know, and that is ok too...I'm nobody, but I share your pain...I'm sorry...there I said it.
Jesus did extend more than His best wishes for our needs..

IT IS WRITTEN OF HIM IN

Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

FOR ISAIAH THE MESSIANIC PROPHET WROTE ( 700 YEARS BEFORE IT TOOK PLACE)

Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and

the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

THE ABOVE SHOULD BE THE CONFIDENT EXPECTATIONS OF ALL THAT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST...

FOR IT IS THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH

HE WAS BORN ON EARTH

LIVED AND REVEALED THE HEAVENLY FATHER

SUFFER UNDER PONTUS PILATE ..

WAS BEATEN WITH AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF STRIPES..

CARRIED HIS CROSS TO GOLGOTHA

WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS..

BLED AND DIED.

WAS PLACED IN A BORROWED TOMB

ROSE AGAIN

SEEN UPON THE EARTH 40 DAYS

ASCENDED TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER

IS (CURRENTLY)THERE AT THE FATHERS RIGHT HAND MAKING INTERCESSION FOR US.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478281 Sep 25, 2013
StarC wrote:
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I knew it!!!
NASL was wrong.
Try again.

Men deciding upon what theology to believe proves my point.

Hojo and you will have to do better than this.

One way, would be to post where "God" specifically states which texts are "of His inspiration" and which are not.

You can do this, right?

How 'bout just pointing me to the correct place to find out where "God" chose the canon in "His book"? You do have something from "God", right?
Or are you going on that silly pretense that "God" limited "His inspiration" only to a select few. If you do, Anthony will object, so make sure you don't include texts by men, okay?

Really Star?

Go back to bible study - but this time learn the historical facts surrounding the Bible, before you start posting untrue accounts like hojo.
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#478282 Sep 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
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That's why I didn't say 'Catholic'. I was more or less highlighting the 'Church' definition as understood by the Orthodox as well as Catholics (and the first 1600 yrs of Christianity in general.)
Apostolic succession.
You're right, she stated the Protestant definition of a Church.
Oh, I know....I was agreeing with you.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478284 Sep 25, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
We only defend and correct false statement.
Odd....that is why I am here too, correcting multiple false statements made by the RCC.

Hmmm.....

I wonder why the HS is guiding me to do this?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#478285 Sep 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I highly doubt you'll find an Orthodox Bishop who'll agree with your statement that 'Church' meant the Christian faith. They would surely agree that Jesus started a Church like we understand it- albeit without the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome..
wrong..I repeat what Our priest teaches us.....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478286 Sep 25, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I disagree.
Thansk BT.

Not that your support will change perceptions, it is what it is and I thank you for reading my posts.

Cheers!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478287 Sep 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where I used a lying tongue (pro 6:17). Show me where I used 'wicked imaginations' in my post (pro 6:18). Where did I give false witness and 'speaketh lies'?(pro 6:19)
Don't manipulate sacred scripture for your own agenda. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of you two. If I stated a lie, present it and I'll apologize.
"I believe in Jesus."

'Nough said.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#478288 Sep 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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I awakened at 3AM today and immediately knew that I owed you an apology.
I used the word "whopper"..which can be defined as a "gross untruth"....or "something exceptionally big or remarkable."
My use of the word was meant to say that the typo was "exceptional and remarkable"....but it could also be read to mean that the info given was a "gross untruth".
Ah apologize...
Nawwww No apology needed. Post on my friend

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#478289 Sep 25, 2013
LTM wrote:
My husband is going into hospital today, please keep him in your prayers.
I am not sure what is going to happn yet, I am praying they take out the prostate gland so he will have no more trouble.
God mat have other plans so I am putting it all in his hands, My husband has suffered terrible pain with this, so much he was going into shock.
Thank you all God Bless.
I pray for him every day. Take care of yourself

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478290 Sep 25, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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Yes Clay while the hypocrisy is very apparent to the Catholics here, its of no use. I would have no problem with Herme and Sere if they didnt at every turn attack Catholics and the church and then the blatant lie of not giving personal insults or that its just about getting them to fight. If its not important then they should not have anything to say to Catholics, because despite the massive attempt to deny anything Catholic within them the fact is the Orthodx and Catholic Churches have more in common than any other.
I would be careful though about the in betweens. For example the Orthodox on purgatory. The church really doesnt teach anything on purgatory other than its a process or a place that involves some discomfort and that nothing unclean shall enter into heaven. Semantics can get heavy in this area.
The real presense while some Orthodox do accept transubstantiation others do not. In the end though it is the true body, blood soul and divinity of Christ. Catholics are accused of trying to define this, but in the end we accept it as a mystery in faith what Christ said. If we are mocked for it then so be it. I still dont think people were dying because they were having a cracker snack and that is very disrpectful. Most Orthdodox I know believe Christ is present. While they do not do Adoration most Orthodox I encounter will bow out of respect. For Christ is present and just as they would not disrespect a King. The King of Kings is present.
Arguing about whether it is leavened our unleavened it is kind of sad how both sides acted on that. Cultural differences in styles of worship are less important than the actual belief.
The ever virginity of Mary is a shared belief. It may not be for these two but yes it is true the All Pangia (sinless) Mary was sinless. Fr. John Myendort (Orthodox scholar) Who nevertheless some Orthdox call a heretic has said that if not for the difference in the concept of Original sin the Orthodox would likely have wholly accepted the Immaculate conception. However there are Orthdox who do subscribe to it. Ultimately though what was being contested is the sinlessness of Mary and the proclamation that Catholics have to believe Mary did not need a saviour. This of course is an empty argument and lacks the knowledge of what the church teaches on that and why. Her sinlessness was never the question. When it happened was. However ever virgin was proclaimed dogma when the churches were one. Yet some Orthodox today have chosen to deny this, cancelling out validity of councils. There are cafeteria Catholics as well. Saying Im Catholic and adhering to the faith on your own terms are different.
Surely Christ knew that there would be disagreements. The Apostles had one on circumcision. Its clear that Paul had a dispute with his traveling companion. The extent of which is unclear. There are disciplines, doctrines, theological discussions and dogmas as you know, but Protestants often dont understand the difference nor do they wish to.
Like hojo, repeating your beliefs will not make them true, but will only to you, after many times repeating it. It seems to be working well.

Move past the word sand understand their meanings.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#478291 Sep 25, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Hogwash!! You saw the title of this forum "Roman Catholic church only true church" and decided to come here (just like every other non-catholic) to "insight an argument", to condemn and attack our Catholic Faith, the Catholic Church and the TRUTH of 2000 years of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY regarding Jesus Christ One TRUE Universal Catholic Church, just like every other bible only Protestant..... Like I told you before---if you truly believe that your Orthodox faith is the truth, then "go live it" and quit trying to create an "argument, dissension, and disagreement. The same with every bible only Protestant--"go live your faith" if you really believe it, and quit attacking Our Catholic Faith and the Catholic Church.---The fact is Seraphima!! YOU non-catholics came looking for us and for a "fight"--The fact is that there is (not one) Catholic on this forum (Anthony, Clay, Regina, Star C, Duststorm or myself that would "seek out" a non catholic forum and go looking for an "argument, a debate or a fight" with a non-catholic!
We wouldn't waste our time, because (we as Catholics believe) that we have the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the FAITH already and have had it for over 2000 years. We don't need to "prove anything"!!! It has be debated and discussed for centuries! You (in your own frustration, anger and beligerence, call it pride and arrogance!..... I/we as Catholics call it conviction, insight, perseverence and TRUTH of doctrine, the bible and Church History. Again--if you claim to possess the truth (as you believe it) then go "live your faith" and leave us Catholics alone to "live ours" and peace and respect will "prevail"!!!
if you wouldn't waste you time then why are you wasting it here...LOL.....hogwash back at you,,,you love the thrill of the fight which makes you the True Christian you claim to be....You are here just for that...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#478292 Sep 25, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>The pope is picked by Christ, who is God, remember Peter?. Young men are called and picked by Christ, who is God to become priests. Women who become nuns are picked to be brides of Christ, who is God. Christ started the Catholic Church.
Then why was Pope Francis picked by Cardinals?

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