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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650425 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477977 Sep 24, 2013
Normand Winnipeg wrote:
<quoted text>---Repeat and Who gave me the bad judges??? Who does not believe in the four Gospels and the writings of Peter???
I didn't but I will if you want me to, because your post is not true at all because of the following:

a. Christianity only uses less than six of the original 13 Apostles - incomplete use of Jesus teachings.

b. There are more writings by "Paul" than there are teachings by Jesus, thus you and most of Christianity think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus.

c. Christianity does not use all of what Jesus taught, thus claiming less than half of his teachings as "All" of them.

Why do you believe and follow men?

How do you know that those individuals were accurate in the fallibility to define an infallible being?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477978 Sep 24, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>What is really shameful is using Christs suffering and sacrifice to try to belittle a Christian in a blog.A number of you have done that.The Protestants dont know thwe Eucharist.You,knowing the Holy Eucharist, should know better than that.I dont think your sharing re the Eucharist by demeaning, calling people names, and disrespecting their beliefs is going to put them any more in touch with the Eucharist.
You make a good point Nick, although I think Clay has been very charitable since he's been on this board. There've been times when I've been rude and disresptful and I'm not at all proud of it, however, I think you're mistaken as to why Clay or myself or others are here and what our motives are.

Since: Feb 12

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#477979 Sep 24, 2013
Normand Winnipeg wrote:
<quoted text>---Repeat and Who gave me the bad judges??? Who does not believe in the four Gospels and the writings of Peter???
you cant guess who? lol..its so obvious....

Since: Feb 12

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#477980 Sep 24, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a good point Nick, although I think Clay has been very charitable since he's been on this board. There've been times when I've been rude and disresptful and I'm not at all proud of it, however, I think you're mistaken as to why Clay or myself or others are here and what our motives are.
The New you is much better than the old you....I like that.

Since: Feb 12

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#477981 Sep 24, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a good point Nick, although I think Clay has been very charitable since he's been on this board. There've been times when I've been rude and disresptful and I'm not at all proud of it, however, I think you're mistaken as to why Clay or myself or others are here and what our motives are.
pssst ( I gave you that heart)

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#477982 Sep 24, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a good point Nick, although I think Clay has been very charitable since he's been on this board. There've been times when I've been rude and disresptful and I'm not at all proud of it, however, I think you're mistaken as to why Clay or myself or others are here and what our motives are.
Your honesty is truly Christian and very rare. I also have been told that at times read too much into things.I know I have crossed over the line as well and have been wrong
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477983 Sep 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
As I just said ..until this forum. Never knew Catholics saw us as enemies and its been disturbing ...
What's disturbing to me Rose is the fact you gloss over so many of the posts by protestants who condemn Catholics and the Church. I've been here a few years and I think it's running about 100-1. I, personally, don't see protestants as enemies at all, and the Church certainly doesn't. What saddens me is how mis-informed many of you are. Most of us are more than willing to explain our beliefs in the spirit of friendship and understanding, but many of you, I think, are a bit leery of letting go of some the hardened opinions.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#477984 Sep 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post is confusing
How could the Pharisees??? Establish the,Protestant bible .
I'm seriously confused
I'm sorry your confused. I gave enough info for you to go on if you're interested in searching it yourself.

Google when the OT Jewish canon came into an agreement by the various Jewish sects.
The Jews were not unanimous on the canon until after Jesus was crucified and rose.
This means that Luther and the reformers chose to accept the canon declared by post Christian Jews.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#477985 Sep 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you even pay attention to what you write?
First you state "its not about being on a side".
No sides you say, yet you then post this in the next sentence:
"Are you for or against Catholics on this?"
And then you end your confusion with "that's a shame."
Clearly it shows you are on one side....the Catholic side.
Yeah - whatever Clay, play your own hand, as you seem to be doing anyhow.
This is the why you shouldn't butt into peoples conversations. Sola scripture is not believed by Orthodox or Catholics. Therefore, I asked an Orthodox why she appeared to side with a Protestant when her Church is not in agreement with them on this issue.
Its really of no concern to you..
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477986 Sep 24, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Your honesty is truly Christian and very rare. I also have been told that at times read too much into things.I know I have crossed over the line as well and have been wrong
We all need to prayerfully reflect on our shortcomings.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#477987 Sep 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the why you shouldn't butt into peoples conversations. Sola scripture is not believed by Orthodox or Catholics. Therefore, I asked an Orthodox why she appeared to side with a Protestant when her Church is not in agreement with them on this issue.
Its really of no concern to you..
This was not the question I was responding to.I asked you what Apostles were killed by jews and which were killed by romans.You responded to that by asking me why I sided with the protestants...The Orthodox church does not believe in sola scripture, you are correct there.But you are wrong with this post about asking me about sola scripture.You did not ask me about that!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#477988 Sep 24, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
We all need to prayerfully reflect on our shortcomings.
Agreed!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#477989 Sep 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop your whining, yes you did:
"However, we. as Catholics, all know that you "can't do that" because the "main premise" of fundamental Sola Scriptura Protestantism is that IT MUST deny, IT MUST attack, and IT MUST condemn over 2000 years of the TRUTH of TRUE Church History and the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible from 382, 393 and 397 AD by the Early Church Fathers "who wrote it", "interpreted it" and "gave it to you fundies" so that you can re-interpret and mis-interpret to your own (demise and destruction)"
My mistake though - I said 50 years - you stated 382 thru 397 - that was only 15 years.
...and still 350+ years after 33 CE.
Get a clue hojo, your ignorance is really the only thing that stops you from becoming intelligent.
Quit making things up New Age of which you and other Protestants have "become experts"!!........ The Catholic Church has "NEVER" changed its doctrine, since Jesus established HIS 1st Church at Antioch, in 33 AD to the Martrydom of St. Peter in 67AD, to martyrdom of Ignatius of Antioch in 107AD, to Polycarp in 155AD to St Justin in 165AD, Tertullion 202,St Cypian 258, St Basil in 379 up to the Canon of Sacred Scripture formed by the early Church Fathers and the Council of Trent who "officially listed the inspired books of the Bible in 397AD.AGAIN ---AS I have said before, the same books that you Protestants interpret (or better yet misinterpret) to your own demise and destruction!!!
FURTHERMORE, I will take "my wisdom, discernment and insight from the Spirit of God through His Son Jesus regarding the TRUE faith, and Salvation in Our Lord--- in and through HIS historically and biblically PROVEN One TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH over your "misguided, misdirected and misled (bible only (CONTRADICTING) intelligence) EACH and EVERY DAY at Daily Mass, with the Eucharist (Jesus Christ TRUE BODY AND BLOOD), adhering to and receiving the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Sacred Scriptures, the Sacraments and the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH in Our Lords One (and only one TRUE) Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ)
Clay

Garden City, MI

#477990 Sep 24, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>This was not the question I was responding to.I asked you what Apostles were killed by jews and which were killed by romans.You responded to that by asking me why I sided with the protestants...The Orthodox church does not believe in sola scripture, you are correct there.But you are wrong with this post about asking me about sola scripture.You did not ask me about that!
Then it was the one before that. Whatever.

I was in the middle of a debate about sola scripture/scripture canon/scripture authenticity with someone else. You chimed in and appeared to take a jab me and I found that odd being that you should be in agreement with the Catholic Church on this subject.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477991 Sep 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the why you shouldn't butt into peoples conversations. Sola scripture is not believed by Orthodox or Catholics. Therefore, I asked an Orthodox why she appeared to side with a Protestant when her Church is not in agreement with them on this issue.
Its really of no concern to you..
I can butt into any post in this public forum. If you want to make it a private one, you will first have to register with Topix as a registered user, and then you can post PMs to whomever.

Until then - get over your ignorance of "religious sides" - in honesty - "God" doesn't have a religion, only men do.

And like Herme, when he agreed with me, there shouldn't be any sides in religion.

Unless those individuals who do think there are, like you, think there are doing their religion a service by thinking this way through ignorance.

Religion divides.

BTW - get over yourself - your religion is a man-made fallacy and you believe it to be true.

DOH!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477992 Sep 24, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
We all need to prayerfully reflect on our shortcomings.
Self.

Are you finally beginning to believe in all of what Jesus taught?

(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477993 Sep 24, 2013
You might find this interesting Rose.

"No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477994 Sep 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Quit making things up New Age of which you and other Protestants have "become experts"!!........ The Catholic Church has "NEVER" changed its doctrine, since Jesus established HIS 1st Church at Antioch, in 33 AD to the Martrydom of St. Peter in 67AD, to martyrdom of Ignatius of Antioch in 107AD, to Polycarp in 155AD to St Justin in 165AD, Tertullion 202,St Cypian 258, St Basil in 379 up to the Canon of Sacred Scripture formed by the early Church Fathers and the Council of Trent who "officially listed the inspired books of the Bible in 397AD.AGAIN ---AS I have said before, the same books that you Protestants interpret (or better yet misinterpret) to your own demise and destruction!!!
FURTHERMORE, I will take "my wisdom, discernment and insight from the Spirit of God through His Son Jesus regarding the TRUE faith, and Salvation in Our Lord--- in and through HIS historically and biblically PROVEN One TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH over your "misguided, misdirected and misled (bible only (CONTRADICTING) intelligence) EACH and EVERY DAY at Daily Mass, with the Eucharist (Jesus Christ TRUE BODY AND BLOOD), adhering to and receiving the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Sacred Scriptures, the Sacraments and the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH in Our Lords One (and only one TRUE) Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ)
AAAWW.....caught you in a lie, and now you are trying to back-peddle your double-talking arse out of it.

You won't win hojo, because you don't know enough about what you spew to even have an argument.

You are clueless, even after repeating the nonsense you do again here.

Martyrs aren't not Jesus.

Martyrs CANNOT DETERMINE what "God" knows, just like you don't.

*steps up onto the stool, because the bullshite is getting deep*

*hands you some cologne*
You are starting to smell like the shite you are dishing out.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#477995 Sep 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry your confused. I gave enough info for you to go on if you're interested in searching it yourself.
Google when the OT Jewish canon came into an agreement by the various Jewish sects.
The Jews were not unanimous on the canon until after Jesus was crucified and rose.
This means that Luther and the reformers chose to accept the canon declared by post Christian Jews.
The Jewish Canon was not accepted by the Ethiopian Jews who have all the books. The council of Jamina in AD90 was addressing the books being used by Christians to proclaim Christ. It would be fair to say that a large number of Jews today reject them. It would be also fair to say that when Jewish scribes transcribed the bible in Greek the Septuigant which would have been used in the time of Christ and the Apostles that there was no notion of a fixed Canon with the exception of the Saducees who only accepted the Torah. These were the most adamant against the Apostles for they said there is no resurrection.

Jerome did have reservations because he was unaware of any Hebrew scripts. The dead sea scrolls we know this is wrong. Regardless Jerome acknowledged the books as scripture and defended them rigorously against Jews who began to attack them along with the new teachings. Christ celebrated Hunukah in Maccabees and clearly many Jews considered them scripture. It was the Jamina council which denied Christ.

If we go by a book that was contested, well virtually every book in the NT was questioned in some way. Luther called James an epistle of straw, he railed against Jude, He called revelation unintellible and he excluded entire books from his bible which were missing for 200 years, which protestants accept today. Luther never said the church added the books protestants call apocryphal. He merely relegated them to an inferior status and in no small part because they refuted his doctrines. Luther added the word alone after faith in his bible. He mocked the Pope saying paraphrased I know well the word alone is not there and you stare it as a cow who stares at a gate. It will be so because I Martin Luther will have it so.. However the only time the word alone is used after faith is in James where it says NOT by faith alone. The books were in the first KJV. Luther did experience resistance by his followers.

Those who claim the books were added are simply ignorant of history. The books were believed to be scripture, but only officially decalared as a necessity to refute Protestants who were dismissing them. Today many Protestants dont even know about what they call Apocryphal books. Many of the writings in the NT however clearly overlap the teachings found in them. On another chord the Jews were never subscribed to scripture alone. Luther never in his wildest dreams could imagine what he was unleashing and he was shocked and dismayed at how many would so quickly disagree with him and he spoke quite harshly against them saying we are worse off now then under the Papists. He concededes that it had not been for the Papists noone would know about the bible at all. In the same breathe he sets himself as an authority to say what is scripture and what is not, which is hardly scripture alone. Some Protestants today are saying Paul is not scripture. How any Protestant says they have more authority to deny that is inconsistent with the false doctrine of sola scripture which has no authority but the personal interpretation of the individual believer. With no authority other than bible which the bible says the Church is the ground and bulwark of the truth. Paul says through the church the message would be revealed. However with each person in charge no one can honestly declare anothers teaching using the bible as all heretics did to be a false teaching. The first council was to answer the question of whether circumsision was necessary. Clearly even the Apostles had doubts. The matter was settled.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#477996 Sep 24, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
“Saint Bernard tells us that everything has come to us through Mary; and we may also say that everything has come to us through the priest; yes, all happiness, all graces, all heavenly gifts. If we had not the Sacrament of Orders, we should not have Our Lord. Who placed Him there, in that tabernacle? It was the priest. Who was it that received your soul, on its entrance into life? The priest. Who nourishes it, to give it strength to make its pilgrimage? The priest. Who will prepare it to appear before God, by washing that soul, for the last time, in the blood of Jesus Christ? The priest – always the priest. And if that soul comes to the point of death, who will raise it up, who will restore it to calmness and peace? Again the priest. You cannot recall one single blessing from God without finding, side by side with this recollection, the image of the priest.”(St. Jean Marie Vianney, Cure d’Ars; Catechism on the Priesthood)- See more at: http://www.integratedcatholiclife.org/2013/03...
I'm sure there are many holy ChristianS who are,priests,.

However they do not wash us in Jesus,blood ..HE DOES,THAT .

THERE IS,ONLY ONE HIGH PRIEST ..OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST

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