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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 667762 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#477799 Sep 23, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="hojo"
If you bible only fundamentalists "truly" believe that the bible is the ONLY source of truth that God chose to transmit His divine and inspired word--then go live it--and quit attacking the Catholic Church, the Catholic faith and Jesus Christ's (biblically and historically proven One True (Universal) Church...... However, we. as Catholics, all know that you "can't do that" because the "main premise" of fundamental Sola Scriptura Protestantism is that IT MUST deny, IT MUST attack, and IT MUST condemn over 2000 years of the TRUTH of TRUE Church History and the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible from 382, 393 and 397 AD by the Early Church Fathers "who wrote it", "interpreted it" and "gave it to you fundies" so that you can re-interpret and mis-interpret to your own (demise and destruction) IT MUST deny, attack and condemn Jesus Christs One TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH --in order to survive!!! Bible Only fundamental Protestantism CANNOT EXIST OR SURVIVE with attacking, denying and condemning the TRUTH of over 2000 years of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ and HIS One (and only one) TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH. You "fundies" have PROVEN this over and over and over again, on this forum!!!!!!!
YOU are not convinced; that is why you resist so hard, and it is why you repeat the same things over and over..
I am "overwhelming convinced" that Jesus Christ initiated, established and authenticated ONE TRUE UNIVERSAL CHURCH, over 2000 years ago, and it was PROVEN historically from the bible and from the "vast majority" of accredited Church Historian, Apologistic authors and writers and from 20 centuries of the recorded biographical documented Lives of the Saints ---TO BE Jesus Christs ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH.....I am also "overwhelmingly convinced" that it is also "necessary" to repeat the SAME TRUTH, over and over and over again, to vindictive, judgemental,and hatefilled "anti-catholic" bible only heretics, such as you Confrinting, who (in your own pridefilled lies) "desperately" attempt to twist, undermine and distort the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY and the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible in your condemnation of ANY and ALL CHRISTIANS---especially Catholics.
Jesus warned HIS APOSTLES, HIS TRUE DISCIPLES and all of us as HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS to beware of heretical preachers such as you, when in Matthew 16:18 HE tell us that the "Gates of hell shall not prevail against (HIS ONE TRUE UNIVERSAL-CATHOLIC CHURCH)!!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#477800 Sep 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Those are things that have been expressed by many of you. We know how you all feel about Mary, Peter and now Padre Pio.
I would like to apologize for calling you an idiot though. Its not the standards I try and live by.
you should call yourself an "idiot" since you didn't call GIF an "idiot" in the first place.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#477801 Sep 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Why do you accept the ever-changing dogma men put forth for you to believe? Why do you trust men over Jesus?
Can you please show me where "God" specifically states which texts by the original Apostles are "of His inspiration" and which are not?
Its not ever changing.

“Actually, doctrines are defined formally only when there is a controversy that needs to be cleared up or when the magisterium (the Church in its office as teacher; cf. Matt. 28:18–20; 1 Tim. 3:15, 4:11) thinks the faithful can be helped by particular emphasis being drawn to some already-existing belief.”

"When Fundamentalists claim that the doctrine was "invented" at this time, they misunderstand both the history of dogmas and what prompts the Church to issue, from time to time, definitive pronouncements regarding faith or morals. They are under the impression that no doctrine is believed until the pope or an ecumenical council issues a formal statement about it."

Jesus left his Apostles to teach on earth. they are the witnesses.
HE said "He who listens to you listens to me, and he who rejects you rejects me" Luke 10:16
AND
Jesus promised to guide his Church into all truth John 16:12-13
We can have confidence that his Church teaches the truth of Christ.

NASL, not sure what is going on with your wife, I read some are prayer for her. I'll join them for your special intentions, I pray is she okay.
Human Being

Oberlin, LA

#477802 Sep 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
You are still missing the point - you would not have faith if someone did not give you information - which is a function of learning.
Why do you think you just acquired it through some hocus-pocus? I guess you can't admit to this, okay. So be it.
NASL

Think of faith in similar fashion as "trust".

Trust is acquired.

If you have no trust, then you can have no faith.

"Hocus-pocus" lol

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477803 Sep 23, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Its not ever changing.
“Actually, doctrines are defined formally only when there is a controversy that needs to be cleared up or when the magisterium (the Church in its office as teacher; cf. Matt. 28:18–20; 1 Tim. 3:15, 4:11) thinks the faithful can be helped by particular emphasis being drawn to some already-existing belief.”
"When Fundamentalists claim that the doctrine was "invented" at this time, they misunderstand both the history of dogmas and what prompts the Church to issue, from time to time, definitive pronouncements regarding faith or morals. They are under the impression that no doctrine is believed until the pope or an ecumenical council issues a formal statement about it."
Jesus left his Apostles to teach on earth. they are the witnesses.
HE said "He who listens to you listens to me, and he who rejects you rejects me" Luke 10:16
AND
Jesus promised to guide his Church into all truth John 16:12-13
We can have confidence that his Church teaches the truth of Christ.
NASL, not sure what is going on with your wife, I read some are prayer for her. I'll join them for your special intentions, I pray is she okay.
According to hojo it changed over a course of 50 years in the 4th C.

But I will agree with his assertion, it has.

But then you will quote Jesus, which is not applicable to my question, considering you don't believe in half of his teachings.

Thanks for the well wishes. I'll let yo know when your prayer has
arrived at my home.

:o)

Peace and light.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477804 Sep 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

You are still missing the point - you would not have faith if someone did not give you information - which is a function of learning.
Why do you think you just acquired it through some hocus-pocus? I guess you can't admit to this, okay. So be it.
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
NASL
Think of faith in similar fashion as "trust".
Trust is acquired.
If you have no trust, then you can have no faith.
"Hocus-pocus" lol
"Trust is acquired."

Okay - how?

How does "God" give you this trust?

You still are avoiding the original question.

Why can't you just admit the truth? Are you afraid of something?

Are you afraid of the astonishment the Jesus promised?

Maybe you are afraid of losing your faith? Well, that won't happen, unless YOU let it.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#477805 Sep 23, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
YOU WROTE
NO Catholic (nor anyone else--who knows the TRUTH) has ever said that the Catholic Church SAVES ANYONE!! We ALL know that Jesus is the one who Saves!....
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS....
YOUR CHURCH DOES NOT PRESENT JESUS...IT PRESENTS A PLACEBO
YOU WORSHIP... THE STAGE PROPS ...AND THE SUPPORTING ACTORS ...OF THE DRAMA.
In the years that I have been on this forum...
I have never witnessed ANY Roman Catholic presenting Jesus..as Lord and Saviour...
or asking any one to receive him as their LORD AND SAVIOR...
ALL YOU PRESENT... TO THE WORLD ...IS YOUR CHURCH ....AND IT'S
CONJECTURE..POMP PRIDE RITUALS AND CALISTHENICS...
YOU REJECT THE WORD'S OF JESUS.... AND PRESENT FABLES ASSUMPTIONS AND CARNAL INVENTIONS...
EVEN YOUR EUCHARIST IS REMOTE...IT IS ALL TRANSUBSTANTIATION OF FLESH
AND BLOOD AND NOTHING ABOUT THE ONE THAT GAVE IT...
YOU CONTINUALLY PRESENT AN IMAGE OF A CORRUPTIBLE MAN UPON A CROSS
CALLING IT.... A CRUCIFIX.
Snipped for space.

A crucifix is to remind us of how HE DIED FOR OUR SINS.
Since you DO NOT ATTEND MASS YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOES ON. SO STOP
MAKING accusations of what you know nothing about.

ALL you have to know is that JESUS FOUNDED OUR CHURCH, not yours.

You follow the teachings of your founder Aimee a druggie and an adulterous.

“In the years that followed, Sister Aimee continued her preaching and international tours, but her love affair with the press had ended, and rumors persistently followed her. She MARRIED A THIRD TIME in 1931, then divorced in 1934. She died in 1944 from an OVERDOSE of barbituates. She is buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, California. The Angelus Temple still is a church for the Foursquare Gospel, which today claims over two million members worldwide.”
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/scan...

Canadian born Aimee Semple McPherson,
In 1922 she founded the Foursquare Gospel, a Pentecostal mission

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#477806 Sep 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
According to hojo it changed over a course of 50 years in the 4th C.
But I will agree with his assertion, it has.
But then you will quote Jesus, which is not applicable to my question, considering you don't believe in half of his teachings.
Thanks for the well wishes. I'll let yo know when your prayer has
arrived at my home.
:o)
Peace and light.
I believe in all HIS teachings. 50 yrs? You misunderstood hojo. Show me the post.

My prayers will never get to your house, I'm sending them up to Jesus' and his helpers. RV 8

:-)
guest

United States

#477807 Sep 23, 2013
OldJG wrote:
I have searched the Bible from cover to cover and no place, NO PLACE is it written Mary remained a virgin her entire life. NO PLACE. If her perpetual virginity was important and true we would find it in the Bible. Why is it NOT IN THE BIBLE?
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Clay wrote:
- You have not searched the Bible from cover to cover. You eliminated Tobit, Sirach, Maccabbees 1 & 2, Judith, Wisdom and Baruch. You may say this is diverting from the subject of Mary's virginity, but its not. The fact that you removed those Books is evidence of your lack of scriptural understanding to begin with. That is, what exactly is scripture. The Evangelical definition is so far out there, that one has to completely dumb down to accept your brand of the faith.
You have your kjv bible. Its got a nice cover on it i assume and yellow highlighted markings throughout, so you can easily go from verse to verse. You believe the Bible is one book and not a collection, correct? Well, the truth is, the Bible itself is a result of sacred tradition and the Universal Church. Many evangelicals refuse to entertain these facts. They badly need to believe it fell out of the sky and the will of Christ is for everyone to search it to figure out the truth.
So given the fact your definition of sacred scriptures is flawed from the get go, its pointless for you to demand a verse that says, "her name was Mary and she never had any other children".
The scriptures were not given to us with every "I" and "T" dotted and crossed; every little detail was not clarified. That's why Christ left us with His Church and a hierarchal teaching magisterium, who He guaranteed to protect from error. He didn't leave us with a canon of a Bible to figure it all out.
"If I am delayed, you'll know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth"
Find out which Church was there to bring this verse to the world and you'll arrive at the correct pillar and bulwark of truth.
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ahem!
YOU cannot ADD to the Bible and expect to understand it.
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The books you cite as being taken out by Protestants were ADDED by Constantinian Catholics.
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These books were NEVER in the Jewish Canon of Scripture. Never, ever, ever! THAT is the starting point for deciding whether they should be included or discarded.
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You can not ADD false teachings and spurious books and still legally call the book you use The Holy Bible.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#477808 Sep 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
So lets see ...... Peter was an idiot, Mary was an incompetent vessel, all the Disciples of the Apostles were morons, Padre Pio was a 'poor ignorant man' who's in hell for not being born again.

Confrint, you're an idiot. Really.
Did you notice how confrint tried to say that was your quote? When all you were doing was quoting him.

That’s what expected [fr.a so-called Christian] and a person that follows lil' Aimee.

http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/scan...
Canadian born Aimee Semple McPherson,
In 1922 she founded the Foursquare Gospel, a Pentecostal mission

Sacred heart of Jesus, have mercy.

St Joseph, pray for us.
St Mary, pray for us.
All the angles and saints, pray for us. Rv 8
<><
guest

United States

#477809 Sep 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Couple clarifications for you ol 'ignorant one. The Catholic Church added 27 Books to the Bible when they created the Christian canon in the 4th century. That's why you have one to beat us over the head.
You call those other 7 Books nonsense? Why? The fact is you do not know why. None of you do. The canon appeared out of the sky for your interpretations.
Fact: Martin Luther never told you guys that the Jewish canon was compiled AFTER Christianity began... Around 80 AD. In truth, the same men who executed Jesus Christ installed your canon of Scripture.
Fact: Jesus Christ quotes from the Books that you guys call trash.
This proves for the normal serious Christians that your whole theology and the ignorance and deception that sustains it, is one big joke. Its by the infinite love and mercy of God, that you can function at all. Indeed God is good!
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the ONLY books the Catholic Church *added* were the ones to the Hebrew Canon of Scripture. And, CLEARLY, they DO NOT BELONG there.
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As for the Christian Greek Scriptures? the *Catholic Church* did not
add them to The Bible. Get over it.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#477810 Sep 23, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Seraphima" I didn't use to get the flu shot but since nick got sick his doctors told me to get it since I care for him. I hardly ever get sick.
Did you start getting the flu after he got the shots? My doctor said that I should not take the shot till I am stronger.
I got the flu shot not nick. He can not take them because he has a very low immune system. Nickie lives in a bubble just about.He leaves the house only for doctors appointments and then he has to wear a mask.And company is restricted is to family only and he sypes with the grandkids.He can not be around people...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#477811 Sep 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
So lets see ...... Peter was an idiot, Mary was an incompetent vessel, all the Disciples of the Apostles were morons, Padre Pio was a 'poor ignorant man' who's in hell for not being born again.
Confrint, you're an idiot. Really.
~~~

I AM WHOM GOD SAYS I AM..AND SO ARE YOU...

ALL I KNOW IS... CHRISTIANS ARE SUPPOSED TO DISCIPLES OF JESUS.

JESUS IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH...

It is evident that you are thumbing your nose at HIS WORD

THE word of God...(JESUS HIMSELF...

Eternity will prove WHOM IT IS THAT IS right...

PLAY YOUR BINGO GAME WITH YOU SOUL AS YOU PLEASE

HELL IS HOT AND ETERNAL...

Heb 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

IT'S YOUR CHOICE ...WHETHER YOU BELIEVE GOD'S WORD OR NOT...

YOU SHOW ALL THE SYMPTOMS OF A PERSON WITH A REPROBATE MIND...

YOU SEEM TO HAVE NO SENSITIVITY TO GOD'S WORD..

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477812 Sep 23, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in all HIS teachings. 50 yrs? You misunderstood hojo. Show me the post.
My prayers will never get to your house, I'm sending them up to Jesus' and his helpers. RV 8
:-)
No - I didn't - he seems pretty sure on his assertion:

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...

Okay, I'll wait for your prayers to be answered. I'll let you know when they are completed.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477813 Sep 23, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in all HIS teachings.
Stop lying - no you don't.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#477814 Sep 23, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
There may be hope for you when you grow up!!!!!
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
~~~

IF IT MEANS BECOMING SUCH A ONE A YOUR SELF...

I prefer to remain a child..AND ADHERE TO THE HEAVENLY FATHERS WILL

THE BIBLE SAYS..

Rom_16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf:

but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
guest

United States

#477815 Sep 23, 2013
StarC wrote:
I believe in all HIS teachings.
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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop lying - no you don't.
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Whatever the "Catholic Church" does, is - according to Catholics - the teachings of Christ. This is why they could torture and murder heretics and not feel the slightest bit of guilt. This is what allows them to STILL adhere to the false teaching of the Catholic Church and not suffer from the OBVIOUS conflict.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#477816 Sep 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
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<quoted text>
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ahem!
YOU cannot ADD to the Bible and expect to understand it.
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The books you cite as being taken out by Protestants were ADDED by Constantinian Catholics.
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These books were NEVER in the Jewish Canon of Scripture. Never, ever, ever! THAT is the starting point for deciding whether they should be included or discarded.
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You can not ADD false teachings and spurious books and still legally call the book you use The Holy Bible.
True, the Jewish Canon is what we go by; Romans 3:2, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#477817 Sep 23, 2013
1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
guest

United States

#477818 Sep 23, 2013
guest wrote:
ahem!
YOU cannot ADD to the Bible and expect to understand it.
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The books you cite as being taken out by Protestants were ADDED by Constantinian Catholics.
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These books were NEVER in the Jewish Canon of Scripture. Never, ever, ever! THAT is the starting point for deciding whether they should be included or discarded.
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You can not ADD false teachings and spurious books and still legally call the book you use The Holy Bible.
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marge wrote:
True, the Jewish Canon is what we go by; Romans 3:2, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God.
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and yet - Catholics think they can do whatever they want and God will still support them.
They say they "believe" the Bible - and yet everything they do contradicts the Bible.
Pagan rites and rituals borrowed from the surrounding area, the use of a rosary, the host etc. everything borrowed from Paganism, ad nauseam - in essence telling God that he doesn't know what he is doing. Rather than obeying God and doing what he commands.

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