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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Feb 12

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#475868 Sep 11, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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One of the better explanations of the veneration of icons (applicable to statues as well) I've found anywhere on the Internet. Yes Hermi, it's from an Orthodox site.
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/icon_bowing...
Great site thanks for sharing!!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#475869 Sep 11, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
continued
xxxxxxx
please show.... from God's word...that these inventions are sound doctrine
ROMAN CATHOLIC INVENTIONS
1.
42. Assumption of Mary proclaimed by Pius XII A.D. 1950
43. Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church" by Pope Paul VI
GIVE BOOK CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE
And I thought you said you NEVER used links...lol.

"There’s a well-known story—probably untrue—about a U.S. Senate race in a Southern state some years ago. One candidate realized that he would have difficulty winning if he took the high road, so he decided to employ the confusion factor.

In the cities, his campaigning was unobjectionable, but he thought he could fool the folks in the countryside. When he made a speech in a small town (and when he was sure no journalists were around), he would refer to his opponent and his opponent’s family using words chosen to mislead—for example, saying his opponent’s sister was a "thespian" (actress) and that his brother was an acknowledged homo sapiens (human being). To the inattentive ear he seemed to be accusing his opponent and his relatives of all sorts of perversions. Although everything the candidate said was accurate, the impression he gave was wrong.

Depending on which version of the story one hears, this man either won the election by a whisker or was revealed to be the scoundrel that he was. "

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/catholic-inven...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475870 Sep 11, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes Dan ..But bible study is,important as Your church has now discovered ..reading the word not just nuggets each day that were in the missals ..I've talked to Catholics who act like you discovered this method of learning the word ..other older Catholics ..Not so much acceptance ...
But there are still a few around wanting the Mass back in Latin .
I learned a lot of the bible stories in school ..But for those not in Catholic schools ..the OT they were not familiar with as a love letter from the Creator to His Chosen and their history ...
Latin Mass is beautiful.

I'm nearly 50 and was never disavused of the notion of reading the bible.

You're like an ex-smoker. You work way too hard to convince everyone (yourself, maybe?) that you made a great decision to quit the "bad habit".

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#475871 Sep 11, 2013
LTM wrote:
tHE ICONS IN YOUR CHURCH IS AN IDOL.
MARY IS AN ICON THE STATUES OF SAINTS ARE ICONS.
AN ICON IS AN IDOL.
When Anything or Anybody Gets What God Alone Deserves
Ex 20:3-4 (NIV) "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."
DO YOU NOT HAVE STATUES OF MARY AND JESUS IN YOUR CHURCH?? ARE THEY NOT IN HEAVEN?? THESE ARE IDOLS.
SURELY YOUR NOT THAT THICK TO NOT BEABLE TO UNDERSTAND THESE SCRIPTURES.
God destroys idols; He is the great iconoclast. Even good things can become idols, and while reveling and boasting seem good at the time, it is a grave disservice to idolize anything or anybody. The result is God's wrath, on you and the idol. God will not be eclipsed.
2 Ki 18:3-4 (Amp) Hezekiah did right in the sight of the Lord... He broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until then the Israelites had burned incense to it; but he called it Nehushtan [a brazen trifle].
James 4:5 (Jer) Surely you don't think the Scripture is wrong when it says: the spirit which He sent to live in us wants us for himself alone?
The Lust For Idols--A Matter of The Heart
James 4:3-4 (Phi) You don't get what you want because you don't ask God for it. And when you do ask he doesn't give it to you, for you ask in quite the wrong spirit--you only want to satisfy your own desires. You are like unfaithful wives, never realizing that to be the world's lover means becoming the enemy of God! Anyone who chooses to be the world's friend is thereby making himself God's enemy.
Col 3:5-6 (Jer) That is why you must kill everything in you that belongs only to earthly life: fornication, impurity, guilty passion, evil desires and especially greed, which is the same thing as worshipping a false god. All this sort of behavior makes God angry.(Eph 5:5)
Eze 6:8-9 (NIV) "...How I have been grieved by their adulterous hearts, which have turned away from me, and by their eyes, which have lusted after their idols. They will loathe themselves for the evil they have done and for all their detestable practices."
Deut 29:18 (NIV) Make sure there is no man or woman, clan or tribe among you today whose heart turns away from the Lord our God to go and worship the gods of those nations; make sure there is no root among you that produces such bitter poison.(See also through verse 29.)
But Everyone Else Is Doing It...
2 Ki 17:15 (NIV) They rejected his decrees and the covenant he had made with their fathers and the warnings he had given them. They followed worthless idols and themselves became worthless. They imitated the nations around them although the Lord had ordered them, "Do not do as they do," and they did the things the Lord had forbidden them to do.
2 Ki 17:40-41 (NIV) They would not listen, however, but persisted in their former practices. Even while these people were worshipping the Lord, they were serving their idols. To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.
1 Cor 10:7 (NIV) Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry."
The icons in my church are not idols.The are pictures of events of the Bible and of the Holy family and of the saints.We do not worship these pictures(icons).The are there to remind us of the life of Christ and his suffering.Also they are a reminder for all of us to be humble and to strive to live a Christian life that is pleasing to God.
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475873 Sep 11, 2013
How you call person as colorful character?

Could you describe that with holy scripture words?

Colorful character will do anything and can do anything on this planet.

Is that fear to be like that or you going square if someone do that for you?

If you want give back as payment ..please tell me about books as $square as quran.

now read there in that book what they say..about payment
give back eye for eye teeth for teeth..
Where is there title of Mercy and holiness.

Whats deference from tera-terric and tel telich?

Did you have amen sija=amnezija?

Why?
Are you sick m ob ill e?

If you have ob what a about globe!

Which color you will used sargastopirgasti.
earth air brown blue
water ait blue gry
Greenbrown and so on..

Do you liked colorful character?
'ko tele u sarena vrate bummmm'=is that joke

no its words of game..

byyyyyyyyy

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#475874 Sep 11, 2013
CONTINUEDXXXXXXX

ALL THE INVENTIONS IN MY FORMER POST,,,

AS APPOSED TO...

SOUND DOCTRINE BY EXAMPLE FROM GOD'S WORD

THE WORDS OF JESUS

Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Luk_19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.

THE MAN THAT WAS BORN BLIND THAT JESUS HEALED

Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

Joh 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?

Joh 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

THE THIEF ON THE CROSS..

Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

PAUL AND SILAS.

Act_16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

THE Ethiopian EUNUCH

Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

~~~

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#475875 Sep 11, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder how she'd react if she saw Orthodox Christians as they venerated icons. Perhaps you'd try to tell her that while you're kissing the icon and signing yourself that you're not worshipping it, even though to her it would APPEAR you are. Or perhaps you'd not say a word and let her continue in her ignorance.
Anthony, everyone here knows that the orthodox have icons. Thats no secret. I don't feel the need to explain the Orthodox view a million times. Once, twice, maybe three times after that I am done. No need to explain anything and more. I have my beliefs and they have theirs.It's not a perfect world.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#475876 Sep 11, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
CONTINUEDXXXXXXX
ALL THE INVENTIONS IN MY FORMER POST,,,
AS APPOSED TO...
SOUND DOCTRINE BY EXAMPLE FROM GOD'S WORD
THE WORDS OF JESUS
Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Luk_19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.
THE MAN THAT WAS BORN BLIND THAT JESUS HEALED
Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Joh 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
Joh 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
THE THIEF ON THE CROSS..
Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
PAUL AND SILAS.
Act_16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
THE Ethiopian EUNUCH
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
~~~
Did Kay get home today or is that tomorrow ??
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475877 Sep 11, 2013
sargastopirgasti= color
sar.gas.top.ir.gas . ti
please explain that words about what where how who why when ..

Did you have your buildings in city as box as square and so on..is that your materialistic earning?
Did you have honest payment for that?

Why is globe ob pay me ant?
Did ant have colony as cell to reject and destroy what they don't wanted.

confe confe confe confe

be good be good be good with me confe

n
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#475878 Sep 11, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
CONTINUEDXXXXXXX
ALL THE INVENTIONS IN MY FORMER POST,,,
AS APPOSED TO...
SOUND DOCTRINE BY EXAMPLE FROM GOD'S WORD
THE WORDS OF JESUS
Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Luk_19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.
THE MAN THAT WAS BORN BLIND THAT JESUS HEALED
Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Joh 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
Joh 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
THE THIEF ON THE CROSS..
Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
PAUL AND SILAS.
Act_16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
THE Ethiopian EUNUCH
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
~~~
Your "inventions" are misleading, misrepresentations, down right falsifications and based on ignorance.

If you were 30 years younger you might not be so invincibly and stubbornly ignorant. You have my prayers confrint.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#475879 Sep 11, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> Anthony, everyone here knows that the orthodox have icons. Thats no secret. I don't feel the need to explain the Orthodox view a million times. Once, twice, maybe three times after that I am done. No need to explain anything and more. I have my beliefs and they have theirs.It's not a perfect world.
99% of the attacks coming from these folks are directed at the Catholic Church. When LTM attacks the veneration of icons you're awfully quick to respond. I appreciate your comments here sera, but it's easy when your ox isn't being gored.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#475880 Sep 11, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
CONTINUEDXXXXXXX
ALL THE INVENTIONS IN MY FORMER POST,,,
AS APPOSED TO...
SOUND DOCTRINE BY EXAMPLE FROM GOD'S WORD
THE WORDS OF JESUS
Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Luk_19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.
THE MAN THAT WAS BORN BLIND THAT JESUS HEALED
Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Joh 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
Joh 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
THE THIEF ON THE CROSS..
Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
PAUL AND SILAS.
Act_16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
THE Ethiopian EUNUCH
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
~~~
~~~

THE ABOVE IS INDISPUTABLE SOUND DOCTRINE...FROM THE WORD OF GOD

NOW WOULD ONE OF YOU ROMAN CATHOLICS be so kind as to

oblige the rest of us...

by presenting scriptural text from the word of God...

to validate your dogma...rituals and calisthenics...

start any where you want...

give book chapter and verses please...

If you don't/can't then you are believing lies...

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#475881 Sep 11, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Kay get home today or is that tomorrow ??
God willing ...I will bring her home tomorrow..

Thanks for asking...

got to catch some zzzzzz

Blessings

G.I.F.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#475882 Sep 11, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Your "inventions" are misleading, misrepresentations, down right falsifications and based on ignorance.
If you were 30 years younger you might not be so invincibly and stubbornly ignorant. You have my prayers confrint.
~~~

If you are going to pray to some dead person and disturb their rest...

don't disquiet them on my account....

1Sa 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.

1Sa 28:15 And Samuel said to Saul,

-->Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? <---

And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.

1Sa 28:16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?

If you were on speaking terms with God through Jesus Christ His Son...

You would not have to bring up the dead to confer with them..

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Heb 4:16 ---> Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. <---
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475883 Sep 11, 2013
Why you liked verticals blind?
$ look japan as hidden symbol sim tel bol mob ob tel
and great Britain
Did they know what they sustain.
https://www.google.com.au/search...

Do you liked payment as stripe on your docket?

explan jesus ch
see
susech chuche cuti cessssssssss
kad cujes
cujes liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iii
hello did you hear me..mob ob ill tel..

Hello did you hear me!
https://www.google.com.au/search...

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#475884 Sep 11, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
99% of the attacks coming from these folks are directed at the Catholic Church. When LTM attacks the veneration of icons you're awfully quick to respond. I appreciate your comments here sera, but it's easy when your ox isn't being gored.
This forum isn't about what the Pope said about the orthodox church.Its about what he said about the catholic church.Even if my ox was being gored,I wouldn't repeat myself a million times......I only responded to LTM because of your comment on Roses post about orthodox kissing icons.I felt like your were trying to draw nick or me in so I made the reply to LTM. Otherwise,I would not have responded because the icon/statue sudject was explained ...how many times???..so no I was not awfully quick to reply about icon.frankly,it does not bother me if people disagree with what I believe. I replyed to LTM for your sake not mine..
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475885 Sep 11, 2013
Are you jealous?
hello

Did you drink glass on ex?

Who do that which sort of spirit connect with neurons?

bitter bitter bitter
someone who have bitter life
What a about bitter book as chip chipy chips chiep o geee its hip hip hip happy birthday..

bi rt h day
see
rt=island which one
rt=tr as tara terra
o you prince of tireeeeeeeeeeeeee
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475886 Sep 11, 2013
otirac i brisac as brisel washington and brisell

see
words sorri

sori=destruction
nemoj sorit=no destruction

see terra teresa

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#475887 Sep 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose isn't giving us anything terribly intelligent nor researched here, Herm.
Her basic take is "I know it's not idolatry, but what will the neighbors think?", as if that's some ecclesial goal to be served.
She places the onus on Catholics to not do something because her protestant brothers and sisters (not HER, of course, but others) may find it unseemly.
Don't watch us if it bugs you.
She has a point and both you and I know it.Its obvious. I was watching EWTN and saw a woman not just praying before a statue of St Peter but very emotionally rubbing the statues foot. The same with the Orthodox. If someone saw me kiss an icon they would think I was worshiping the icon.But the Catholics here can never ever lower themselves to say someone may have a point.. Then a few attack like dogs. Rose was clear in what she said. You played the typical game.I'll watch whatever I want to watch. erhaps you want to talk about those in both our churches that abuse icons or do cross over from veneration to worship of the holy mother. We both know it happens.So take a spoonful of sugar as the medicine goes down.
truth

Caversham, Australia

#475888 Sep 11, 2013
How you call someone who have gorko u srcu..heavy bitter heart.

orthodox paradox horda ox
horde volova ili bizona

parasite as mekusci live in sea as star fish spounge
snails and so on
Whats deference between parasite and horde as cell conected to each other..
if you go interfer into cell of horde ox e what you will do to be destroyer as sori..or what

see
bible teach you about
good seeds and very bad seeds
re-genetic seeds come as organization as horde ox
see

if they going trough cell
call cell cill coll cul

whats deference between call and cell
hello

mum
Are you for sure I am wrong?
hello

Do you liked wet roses ..its represent tears.

To concern to whom
Who not forget his tears?

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