Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
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Perth, Australia

#474713 Sep 4, 2013
Who told you I am walk from God path?
How many gods master and lords you have?

Since: Dec 11

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#474714 Sep 4, 2013
Man,bureaucracy,monarchy, Chief Executive Officers, etc did not build the Church.When we examine how the Church was gradually and organically established,itvalidates Who built the Church-Holy Spirit and Christ.

The Church, starting in Jerusalem and then spreading over the Centuries, across Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople, and Rome, all adhering to basic tenets could not have happened without the Holy Spirit and Agape-Love. No monarchy could have forced this to happen.

Throughout church histories,it was the hierarchies, the management, the powers that be that were the cause of churches slipping off course and at times into serious sin.

Yes, leadership is a must, but a leadership through humility, example, knowledge and loyalty to the faith,and love.Always guided by the Holy Spirit. Man cannot dictate what the Holy Spirit accomplishes- Christian union in love within the Body of Christ.
Clay

United States

#474715 Sep 4, 2013
Preston does bug me for his unfounded anti Catholic position, but he always demonstrates he's a man of conviction. He is at least, sincere in his faith and recognizes the severity of the evangelical division on OSAS. Therefore, he'll do his best to correct you OSAS believers because of the consequences facing you for undoing the word of God; preaching a false Gospel.
Take his advice, Oldjg.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474716 Sep 4, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I'm sure they said the things,Jesus,said ..That belief in the,Son leads,to the Father.
That we have NO MEDIATOR but Christ ..That the,priests in the temple had nothing to do with granting them eternal life.
Repent and
Believe in the saviour who died for our Sins,and be baptized ..
Something along those lines ..
They preaches in some cases to people they might not even see again as they travelled home from Jerusalem or until the next holiday .
I'm sure they did not say ..You must stay here and come to this building and see me each week to confess your sins ..so I can forgive them and then i will give you the Eucharist so you can remain saved .
I really don't see that as how they spread GODS,word..or those who travelled FRom place to place ..baptizing after the people heard and accepted JESUS and then moved in..how did those people continue on in their faith ..through JESUS...And the power of the HOLY Spirit
"I'm sure they did not say ..You must stay here and come to this building and see me each week to confess your sins ..so I can forgive them and then i will give you the Eucharist so you can remain saved ."

Yes they did. St. Ignatius was personally taught by St. John the Beloved and ordained by St. Peter when he was in Antioch. Here's what he said about the Church:

"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a love-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid." Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyraens, 8 (c. A.D. 110).

"how did those people continue on in their faith ..through JESUS...And the power of the HOLY Spirit"

Yes, through Jesus. And Jesus founded the Church. And the Holy Spirit guides the Church.

Since: Feb 12

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#474717 Sep 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a shame that a supposed man of God needs to resort to insults and lies when he's "confrinted" with the reality of doctrinal anarchy in protestantism.
well its a good thing that you don't do that.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474718 Sep 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I think if people would look and understand the concept of Peter walking on the water and broaden their horizon some, or in the realm of some on here, they need to understand much better than they do now with their carnal eyes.
Peter as we all know took his eyes off of the Lord and sank, but when he called out to the Lord, he was Saved.
now looking at that thru Spiritual eyes, we see that a person who takes their eyes off of the Lord will [sink] or be lost[die], yet if they like Peter call out to Jesus, He still will reach out His arm and Save them.
last evening, my granddaughter took her eyes off of the road that she was riding her four wheeler and hit a log and it overturned with her and if you could see the picture, she was one lucky young lady. she came out of it with a busted mouth and a sore ankle. and I had Cathie going back and forth to give me updates. so no matter what age, we can take our eyes off our Spiritual Road and lose our Way.
GIF and myself cant make it any plainer to you people who have listened to false teachers who preach of a Gospel not taught by the Apostles, nor those Preachers who believe in a closer Walk and being Spirit Filled.
Nice post preston, hope your granddaughter is ok.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474719 Sep 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>well its a good thing that you don't do that.
You're still a protestant at heart Sera. ;0)

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#474720 Sep 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I think if people would look and understand the concept of Peter walking on the water and broaden their horizon some, or in the realm of some on here, they need to understand much better than they do now with their carnal eyes.
Peter as we all know took his eyes off of the Lord and sank, but when he called out to the Lord, he was Saved.
now looking at that thru Spiritual eyes, we see that a person who takes their eyes off of the Lord will [sink] or be lost[die], yet if they like Peter call out to Jesus, He still will reach out His arm and Save them.
last evening, my granddaughter took her eyes off of the road that she was riding her four wheeler and hit a log and it overturned with her and if you could see the picture, she was one lucky young lady. she came out of it with a busted mouth and a sore ankle. and I had Cathie going back and forth to give me updates. so no matter what age, we can take our eyes off our Spiritual Road and lose our Way.
GIF and myself cant make it any plainer to you people who have listened to false teachers who preach of a Gospel not taught by the Apostles, nor those Preachers who believe in a closer Walk and being Spirit Filled.
I pray your little one heals quickly ..

Did your son get home ..wasn't he coming this month ??
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#474721 Sep 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Within the Church the Apostles exercised that regulative power with which Christ had endowed them.
SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT JESUS CREATED 12 LITTLE GOD'S....
No Confrinting!! It is YOU (in your vindictive, hostile and beligerent anti-catholic blindness to the TRUTH) are the one that is saying (12 little Gods). Jesus appointed Peter, as HIS EARTHLY REPRESENTATIVE to lead HIS One True Apostolic (Universal-Catholic) Church until HE returns the second time. "To you Peter" I give the keys to the kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 16:19). Then in Acts 2, the Apostles are given the authority as Bishops to lead the Early Churches beginning in Antioch, then Corinth, Galatia, Thessalonica, Ephesis, Colosse, Philippi, and for over 2000 years, ALL the (heirarchical, authoritative and visible) Churches that followed with (Bishops, elders, priests and deacons) again Acts 2
Paul confirms the authority of the visible Church that Jesus HIMSELF, initiated and formed when he said (in I Timothy 3:15) THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.......You Confrinting, OX, justachristian, Orville and ALL the rest of your bible only "fundies" can keep trying (in your desperation) to "spin, manipulate, twist and conjure up your own "opinionated fictitious Church History myths" but the TRUTH has, is and will CONTINUE to ALWAYS be grounded in Jesus Christ (and over 2000 years of biblical and historical TRUTH) in and through Our Lords One TRUE Catholic Church!!!!!!
Clay

United States

#474722 Sep 4, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Both sides of that issue are born-anew from above and the side against it actually preaches it from the Word so no big deal.
"the side that's agains (OSAS) actually preaches it from the word of God so no big deal"

That's the most reckless statement I've heard. You best prove that Christ Jesus 'doesn't care' if His truth is taught wrong- just as long as its from someones private interpretations of scripture.
That's heartbreaking what y'all have done to sacred scripture.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#474723 Sep 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You're still a protestant at heart Sera. ;0)
beats a used car salesman....

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#474724 Sep 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
No Confrinting!! It is YOU (in your vindictive, hostile and beligerent anti-catholic blindness to the TRUTH) are the one that is saying (12 little Gods). Jesus appointed Peter, as HIS EARTHLY REPRESENTATIVE to lead HIS One True Apostolic (Universal-Catholic) Church until HE returns the second time. "To you Peter" I give the keys to the kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 16:19). Then in Acts 2, the Apostles are given the authority as Bishops to lead the Early Churches beginning in Antioch, then Corinth, Galatia, Thessalonica, Ephesis, Colosse, Philippi, and for over 2000 years, ALL the (heirarchical, authoritative and visible) Churches that followed with (Bishops, elders, priests and deacons) again Acts 2
Paul confirms the authority of the visible Church that Jesus HIMSELF, initiated and formed when he said (in I Timothy 3:15) THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.......You Confrinting, OX, justachristian, Orville and ALL the rest of your bible only "fundies" can keep trying (in your desperation) to "spin, manipulate, twist and conjure up your own "opinionated fictitious Church History myths" but the TRUTH has, is and will CONTINUE to ALWAYS be grounded in Jesus Christ (and over 2000 years of biblical and historical TRUTH) in and through Our Lords One TRUE Catholic Church!!!!!!
yada yada yada....

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#474725 Sep 4, 2013
Preston,we pray that your granddaughter heals quickly.God Bless you and your family!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#474726 Sep 4, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I pray your little one heals quickly ..
Did your son get home ..wasn't he coming this month ??
Cathie said her leg was very swollen and hurt her when it is touched, so she will be walking with crutches for a few days. we think God that it wasn't any worse than it was.

as for our son, looks like he isn't coming home, since his school resumes on the 11th. he spent most of his time off visiting much of china and Tibet. this "free ride" is very expensive but it is money well spent,

hopefully, he can get a job with a company that does business with China or maybe our Govt. since he will have a working knowledge of their language.

thank you for asking about both of them, and keep both of them in your prayers

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#474727 Sep 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
Preston,we pray that your granddaughter heals quickly.God Bless you and your family!
thank you. I hope I can get a picture to show people how dangerous these vehicles are. her moms best friend(and our babysitter years ago) lost her cousin just two days ago because of an accident caused by a 4 wheeler.

Sera, this is what makes a Christian Family, we share the burdens of each other, and pray one for another.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#474728 Sep 4, 2013
John 3:26

John 5:24

In anyone's BIble

All the same ...

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#474729 Sep 4, 2013
Sorry John 3:16..

The whole book of John for that matter .

Gives,US,what we,need to know,about salvation

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#474730 Sep 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Cathie said her leg was very swollen and hurt her when it is touched, so she will be walking with crutches for a few days. we think God that it wasn't any worse than it was.
as for our son, looks like he isn't coming home, since his school resumes on the 11th. he spent most of his time off visiting much of china and Tibet. this "free ride" is very expensive but it is money well spent,
hopefully, he can get a job with a company that does business with China or maybe our Govt. since he will have a working knowledge of their language.
thank you for asking about both of them, and keep both of them in your prayers
I will..sorry you didn't get to see him though .

Be careful on the little girls mouth ..my grandson bit into his,with a fall ..got a really bad infection ..Kids!!!!
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474731 Sep 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>beats a used car salesman....
Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474732 Sep 4, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
Sorry John 3:16..
The whole book of John for that matter .
Gives,US,what we,need to know,about salvation
While most fundamentalists are stricly literal in their interpretation of the bible, it's unfortunate that they refuse to take John 6 literally. So yes, rejecting what Jesus says here does affect your salvation.

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