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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 667943 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474931 Sep 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>back at you! prove that demas wasn't saved.
No. I can't prove he was or wasn't.

But it does go to show that you can't either, and that was my point - you made a false claim on a character in a text written by an anonymous man.

DOH!

It seems that only self-righteous people have this ability.

Please tell me cowboy, how can I prove that Demas was saved or not?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474932 Sep 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>not ONLY US, BUT ALL CHRISTIANS receive a blessing of a person that once was lost but now is FOUND(SAVED).
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I along with GIF can easily say that we are well paid when a person comes to an altar and gives their life to God.
Like I said - self-righteous.

You don't receive anything except a self-pat on the back.

Get a clue. People choose to do the things they do, including the choice to step up infront of a crown of people and announce they have been glorified.

Your ego needs to be restrained.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474933 Sep 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>not ONLY US, BUT ALL CHRISTIANS receive a blessing of a person that once was lost but now is FOUND(SAVED).
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I along with GIF can easily say that we are well paid when a person comes to an altar and gives their life to God.
What are you paid with?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#474934 Sep 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop diverting from the questions I put to you. All of this is just your personal experience, it's not getting to the heart of the matter. You may profess your belief, but if you don't obey Christ it's just lip service. It's a dead faith that produces nothing.
Rose, who decides what obedience to Christ is? What did those who were taught by the apostles say this obedience is?
You saId MY belief n John 3:16 was different from yours ..And not just head belief was,correct ..I showed you it wasn't .
You were addressing ME

Jesus,gave us,2 commandments,that embraced all of them .

Live God above all things ..love your neighbor.

I try not always,successfully to follow both ...in which case the Spirit by way of my conscience lets me know

If I err I go to my Lord in repentance ..

What I want to know ..You may need your priest to say ..your forgiven .

I prefer to take my sins,to the,SOURCE OF ALL FORGIVENESS...

And who is,anyone here to tell me that is not the right thing to do ..
Pad

Rockford, IL

#474935 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Thansk for completing the passage. I didn't think it was necessary if one were to accept what Jesus stated. I guess you need the extra few words to make any sense of the statement.
I didn't.
BTW - for one to be "called" - one must take action. That my friend is Self.
Move past the words and understand their meanings.
Again Pad, I have.
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God".
You do believe Jesus, right?
And to know yourself is to know that you are hopelessly lost,without the Redrmption of Christ.To Know yourself is to realize that"we are shaped in iniquity and sin,our hearts condemn us." Isaiah.

To know yourself is to look beyond oneself,and be a blessing to others that works even outside of the realm of Christian endeavor and service.People can learn o love,and work outside of their pwersonal space.We see this all over the world.

But the most important thing is that when we trust ourselves and know ourselves as some good person underneath the many layers,we are deceiving ourselves,as Christ came to redeem us,not help us to discover some inner good person,who is able o rise up and be justified on his or her own meri.NASL,I know you believe in te goodness of human life,and that we are our own saviors,but that is not why Jesus came to this earth,He came to save that which was lost to sin,and He changes hearts.When we human beings believ we have more than what Jesus offers,we are just lying to ourselves.

No, NASL, you are not Jesus,or capable of being Him,you are not God or capable of being God.The I AM has come NASL,and He is determied to save us,not to awaken in us some god!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474936 Sep 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You may profess your belief, but if you don't obey Christ it's just lip service. It's a dead faith that produces nothing.
Doesn't sound like you follow this "rule".
Pad

Rockford, IL

#474937 Sep 5, 2013
Sorry folks about the double post,it was not intended!
Michael

Canada

#474938 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Funny - some poster deemed your post "clueless" "incindiery" and "nuts".
I guess that person doesn't like being truthful and honest.
DOH!!
We can all make up stuff and say its true, its just that Clay, Hojo, Anthony, ReginaM. actually believe every word they were indoctrinated into from infancy.

Nothing trumps evidence that is PROVEN truthful. I have yet to see any evidence of what they speak.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474939 Sep 5, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
My bet is that you have diplomas, from the most elite Universities in the world, on every wall in your office. In your mind, because of your eduction, you are the smartest man to ever walk on this earth.....but you don't have an ounce of intelligence..
No. You are incorrect in many ways.
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I have posted this a godzillian times on this forum:
ekklesia: a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.
Okay - thanks for reposting.
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
And I repeat....that does not define the Roman Catholic Church....which is a denomination...Christ built no denomination/s
I never said it does, so you are barking up the worng tree, if you are trying to get a rise from me.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474940 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Please post the passage from "God" that states that what you have read is the "Infallible Sacred Word of God".
I don't believe you are citing the right texts.
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no interest in engaging anyone in a conversation about the Sacred Word of God, when that person refers to God as "God"...
Diversion.

Since you can't answer with honesty, you divert from answering altogether, using bullshite qualifiers as your support.

You are a fake.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474941 Sep 5, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>And to know yourself is to know that you are hopelessly lost,without the Redrmption of Christ.
Prove it.

You have no clue or inclination to know what will happen to me. So stop being silly in thinking you do.
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>To Know yourself is to realize that"we are shaped in iniquity and sin,our hearts condemn us." Isaiah.
I'm not Jewish, so this text doesn't apply to me.

BUT....if one is to take the meaning of this passage, one will find that it is exactly what Jesus stated in GoThomas - because once we examine ourselves for the faults we do have, only then can we address them and clear them from the chart of life.
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>To know yourself is to look beyond oneself,and be a blessing to others that works even outside of the realm of Christian endeavor and service.
But yet you rebuke Jesus' teaching this.....hmmmm....

You are starting to contradict Jesus.
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>People can learn o love,and work outside of their pwersonal space.
There is no religion required, no religious affiliation required, or religious exclamation required, in order to achieve this.
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>We see this all over the world.
But the most important thing is that when we trust ourselves and know ourselves as some good person underneath the many layers,we are deceiving ourselves,as Christ came to redeem us,not help us to discover some inner good person,who is able o rise up and be justified on his or her own meri.
The only person who will deceive theirself is yourself. No other person can do this to another.

But in your eyes, one must make a choice [Self] and not do this in order to "come to Jesus" - which is also an action by the Self.

You are confused. That must be the reason why you keep referring to the actions thatyou will do, but rebuke them in the next statement.

Hmmm.....odd.
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>NASL,I know you believe in te goodness of human life,and that we are our own saviors,but that is not why Jesus came to this earth,He came to save that which was lost to sin,and He changes hearts.When we human beings believ we have more than what Jesus offers,we are just lying to ourselves.
Okay Pad....if this is what you believe.....let's break it down and try to understand what you are saying.

"that we are our own saviors"
- we have to correct our own faults in life - Jesus nor "God" will. Please post to the forum, support for your conclusion. Please list all the things that "God" specifically has done for you, and you alone, as it seems, because I'm not hearing anyone else claim that Jesus or "God" corrected "sin" without any personal action occurring.

"but that is not why Jesus came to this earth,He came to save that which was lost to sin,and He changes hearts."
- please post how Jesus 'changes hearts' WITHOUT posting an action by an individual or individuals. All I would like to see, is a specific action that has Jesus or "God" changing hearts without no interaction from humans.

"When we human beings believ we have more than what Jesus offers,we are just lying to ourselves."
- How? what does Jesus have that I don't?
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>No, NASL, you are not Jesus,or capable of being Him,you are not God or capable of being God.
I never claimed to be Jesus or "God", so please stop implying that I did or am.

Although I will say that some folks have told me when I let my hair down, that I do resemble him in looks
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>The I AM has come NASL,and He is determied to save us,not to awaken in us some god!
Jesus can't save anyone, only you can, if you abide by his suggestions to do so.

'not to awaken in us some god!"
Yes he did. You are just so befuddled by men, you can't see this action being taken.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#474942 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes. When struggling while in a corner, without any way out, always divert your actions back to the one who questions why you are in a corner.
Got it.
I don't believe men. I do utilize their opinions to formulate my own belief. Like you and your heresy against the Catholic Church - you've chosen to believe how you want to.
Self is a very far concept from the RCC and Catholicism.
But hey - you won't reject your Self any more than you would reject Catholicism. Unfortunately, with doing so, you become a heretic in the eyes of men within Catholicism, so you avoid it altogether.
Take your diversion tactics elsewhere - they won't work on me.
Try preaching your nonsense to someone more gullible - like children and Protestants.
I'm not struggling in a corner. I'm not diverting from the issue. You accuse me of following men (which I do not contest) but you are also following men.

The men I follow are the successors to the Apostles. They are protected from error. That's the only way Christ could ensure that the continuity of truth would survive generation to generation.
So yeah, I'm all inn. I will die a Catholic, following the Bishop of Rome.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474943 Sep 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not struggling in a corner.
IMO - you are. Looking at all the ways of the wordl from one aspect and only one. You rebuke other ways, because you can. It doesn't mean that what you say is true. It isn't.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not diverting from the issue.

You have multiple times.

You and your counterparts have still yet to post where "God" specifically labels certain texts inspired and others not.

So, without diverting, where is this written, expressed, scribed, etc.?
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You accuse me of following men (which I do not contest) but you are also following men.
How many times do I have to say it, I don't follow men. Following men requires me to be a participant in their theology or theocracy.

Please tell me which men I follow?
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The men I follow are the successors to the Apostles.

Correction - the men you follow are successors to SOME OF THE APOSTLES. Remember, you only accept less than six of the original 13 Apostles. Please make sure you specify this in future claims, it shows you are being honest.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
They are protected from error.

"All men fall short of the glory of God".
- thus - they are not protected.
- your conclusion, as it seems, was devised by men, not "God".
- But yet you want to false claim "infallible".

Wrong move.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the only way Christ could ensure that the continuity of truth would survive generation to generation.
a. You don't believe in all of Jesus' teachings
b. Jesus never stated this
c. This is Catholicism speaking, nothing to do with what Jesus taught.

Besides, the so-called "Apostolic Succession" had already been debunked.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
So yeah, I'm all inn. I will die a Catholic, following the Bishop of Rome.
Have fun. I betcha - he isn't going to be around your bedside when you die.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#474944 Sep 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
You saId MY belief n John 3:16 was different from yours ..And not just head belief was,correct ..I showed you it wasn't .
You were addressing ME
Jesus,gave us,2 commandments,that embraced all of them .
Live God above all things ..love your neighbor.
I try not always,successfully to follow both ...in which case the Spirit by way of my conscience lets me know
If I err I go to my Lord in repentance ..
What I want to know ..You may need your priest to say ..your forgiven .
I prefer to take my sins,to the,SOURCE OF ALL FORGIVENESS...
And who is,anyone here to tell me that is not the right thing to do ..
RoSesz:

Peace

I do not think God has a preferential mode. That is your preference in dealing with sin. Yet God deals with us, as He sees fit. And in general, I go along with your thinking on the subject.

The question of obedience to God, is not necessarily contrary to that of obedience to the RCC(though usually it is our own misunderstanding, clouded judgment, and experiences that prevents us makes us preferential) but is congruent, or parallel.

One aspect of repentance you are forgetting, within contrition(if you remember), one must do an act of penance. And this has generally been forgotten outside of the confessional. Most of those who hate the RCC, would not even consider doing an act of penance. Why?

Peace
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#474945 Sep 5, 2013
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hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#474946 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
But since you asked, in the least you are questioning that which you don't know.
Since it won't be found in the Bible that it is a personal relationship, maybe you can direct me - within the Bible - where I can find where "God" specifically states which texts are inspired and which are not, so I can make sure I am following "God" to the letter.
The Early Church Fathers in 382,393, and 397 gave Jesus Christs One TRUE Universal Catholic Church the "inspired books of the bible"-----however, you bible only Protestant "fundies" (decided on your own)---1200 years later, which ones THEY CHOSE to keep, and which ones THEY CHOSE to remove, then EACH ONE (self-interpreting) the bible,(450 years later) into 42,000 contradicting and conflicting (hodge-podge) of denominations, editorializing, and mis-interpreting the bible, EACH to their own "demise and destruction"!! You "fundies" will NEVER follow Gods word to the letter because you "threw out, and rejected" the TRUTH" at the Reformation!
Anthony MN

Fairfax, VA

#474947 Sep 5, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I you knew the teachings of both the Witnesses and Mormons you would not ask me such a question.Because they would never darken the door of our churches anyway. Anyone who wants to visit is always welcome,that is the same with you.But to share their theology and expect it to spread amongst us would be ridiculous,and they themselves hate evangelicals and Catholics.
Of course you wouldn't. You understand then the dilemma Catholics have with evangelicals who reject the Sacraments.
Anthony MN

Fairfax, VA

#474948 Sep 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
You saId MY belief n John 3:16 was different from yours ..And not just head belief was,correct ..I showed you it wasn't .
You were addressing ME
Jesus,gave us,2 commandments,that embraced all of them .
Live God above all things ..love your neighbor.
I try not always,successfully to follow both ...in which case the Spirit by way of my conscience lets me know
If I err I go to my Lord in repentance ..
What I want to know ..You may need your priest to say ..your forgiven .
I prefer to take my sins,to the,SOURCE OF ALL FORGIVENESS...
And who is,anyone here to tell me that is not the right thing to do ..
Agian Rose, who decides what obedience to Christ is? What did those who were taught by the apostles say this obedience is?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#474949 Sep 5, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The Early Church Fathers in 382,393, and 397 gave Jesus Christs One TRUE Universal Catholic Church the "inspired books of the bible"-----however, you bible only Protestant "fundies" (decided on your own)---1200 years later, which ones THEY CHOSE to keep, and which ones THEY CHOSE to remove, then EACH ONE (self-interpreting) the bible,(450 years later) into 42,000 contradicting and conflicting (hodge-podge) of denominations, editorializing, and mis-interpreting the bible, EACH to their own "demise and destruction"!! You "fundies" will NEVER follow Gods word to the letter because you "threw out, and rejected" the TRUTH" at the Reformation!
You are solid proof that there is no cure for stupidity!!!!

The National Council of Church’s report on church membership lists the following organizations as the top ten biggest religious denominations in the U.S.A.:

The Catholic Church: 68.5 million
Southern Baptist Convention: 16.1 million
The United Methodist Church: 7.8 million
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 6 million
The Church of God in Christ: 5.5 million
National Baptist Convention, USA: 5 million
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America: 4.5 million
National Baptist Convention of America: 3.5 million
Assemblies of God: 2.9 million

Note: The Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the USA!!!!!!
Michael

Canada

#474950 Sep 5, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
You are solid proof that there is no cure for stupidity!!!!
The National Council of Church’s report on church membership lists the following organizations as the top ten biggest religious denominations in the U.S.A.:
The Catholic Church: 68.5 million
Southern Baptist Convention: 16.1 million
The United Methodist Church: 7.8 million
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 6 million
The Church of God in Christ: 5.5 million
National Baptist Convention, USA: 5 million
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America: 4.5 million
National Baptist Convention of America: 3.5 million
Assemblies of God: 2.9 million
Note: The Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the USA!!!!!!
.......and the vast majority of ALL those believers in their individual denominations were indoctrinated into it from childhood.

....... The numbers you show are MOSTLY about hand-me-down-family tradition, not individual found beliefs, and that OXBOW is the BIGGEST group of all!.

simply UNBELIEVABLE!

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