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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 701715 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#474878 Sep 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a great one to say what you have.
FIRST OFF.....NO ONE CAN UNDO THE WORD OF GOD...
Psa_119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
SECONDLY..
Your religious organization has set aside the word of God and
ATTEMPTED TO REPLACE IT WITH YOUR OWN CONJECTURE....
BETTER SWEEP OFF YOU OWN BACK PORCH...
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
NOTE
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and
by him all things consist.
NOTE AGAIN
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
THIS IS WHERE YOUR RELIGIOUS SYSTEM .. FAILS
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and
be not moved away from the hope of the gospel,
which ye have heard, and
which was preached to every creature which is under heaven;
whereof I Paul am made a minister;
I DO NOT THINK THAT BELIEVING OR NOT BELIEVING IN O S A S IS CRUCIAL
TO ONE'S SALVATION...
BUT
THE RITUALS, CALISTHENICS...ESPECIALLY ...REPLACING THE HOLY GHOST WITH A POPE,
LAYING CLAIM TO A MONOPOLY TO HEAVEN...LYING ABOUT THE
MOTHER OF JESUS
AND WORSHIPING IDOLS...
ARE WILLFUL SINS AGAINST GOD.
"no one can undo the word of God"

Ya right. People before you literally undid it. That's why you only have 66 Books of the Bible and I've got 73.
If the word of God says Jesus held up the Bread and said, "This my Body"
And now, 2,000 yrs later, you say "No it ain't"!
well, that's undoing it.
Apparently the word of God was misunderstood from 90 AD til you showed up? Ignatius and Clement heard it wrong from Peter and John? Truth was so important for our salvation, that Christ decided to wait until the born again movement arrived in the 20th century to clarify His real Ministry.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#474880 Sep 5, 2013
marge wrote:
Thought that was the whole idea, to get some SAVED.
marge

Peace

Being SAVED is one side of the coin. The other side is to imitate Christ.(That is to walk with him, become more like him.) Christians often times accept that Jesus is the victim of their sins, but the begins the walk with him. And if one walks away, then it is like one who heard the words of Jesus, in the crowd, and then just went home, back to their old way, with the old man, without Christ....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474881 Sep 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. For Christianity, it took an authorative declaration by a hierarchy to decide which books were inspired and which were not.
Jesus Christ nor His Apostles ever commanded a Bible be compiled- less alone which Books were to be included.
Fundies will not like this link.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_New_Tes...
Thank you for agreeing that men decided what you are to believe and what you are not to believe.

So much for "God" being involved with your belief.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474882 Sep 5, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>"I will give the world what no eye has seen or ear has heard." Jesus. Did not Jesus tell us that the world would not receive Him,and that He revealed His truth unto babes,and those who were not the educated puffed up in their own vainglory?
You need to finish that statement you quoted."No eye has seen nor ear has heard,what God will do for those who Love Him and are called according to His purpose."
If there is something Jesus shared that you are not revealing,which was not recorded in the New Testament,by all means share it.
Thansk for completing the passage. I didn't think it was necessary if one were to accept what Jesus stated. I guess you need the extra few words to make any sense of the statement.

I didn't.

BTW - for one to be "called" - one must take action. That my friend is Self.

Move past the words and understand their meanings.

Again Pad, I have.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God".

You do believe Jesus, right?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474883 Sep 5, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>June you should become a BahaThey will explain to you about the Christ spirit,and how it is in all the religions.The problem however is that the True Spirit of Christ is persecuted and hated by all those religions.e see bg evidence of that to date
"Spirit" - an invisible 'entity' that everyone has. Although we cannot see the Spirit, many, including myself, believe it to exist and is the source of all of our actions - no matter what they are.

If one is to accept the "Spirit of Jesus", they would be accepting an invisible energy within their mind - and no where else.

No religion is required to acquire this.

This the RCC's statement is again proven to be false and very misleading.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#474884 Sep 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text> Oo
the ONKY passage I keep bringing up is,John 3:16
It doesn't mean what it says??? Very plainly in all versions,I read ..
How,strange .
Now one if the posters,is saying John didn't write it because he died in Jerusalem.
That I do NOT believe ..I do have discernment Anthony ..
I can read ..And understand much more each time I read ..wonder why that is..
About That passage ..please,tell me what YOU think it says ...it's the basis of our faith ..IMO.
We believe because we have faith ..the free gift of Grace ..given nit by the Church ..But by our Lord HIMSELF through HIS SPIRIT ...nit by something we received because we learn prayers,at a certain age and a bishop says,so.
The CHURCH is a great place for worship ...But it dies nit give salvation.
GOD GAVE HIS ONLY SON..THAT IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM ..WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE .
Or do you deny that ..did the RCC make this,all up..
If not ..we believe the same inspired word of God ..
Not sure why you feel the need to take my statement and twist it to mean something entirely different. We agree on John 3:16 Rose. We don't agree on what "believing in Him" means.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474885 Sep 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
What I don't get Clay
Is you guys saying our belief in the scriptures is,wrong .
Did the RCC make them up..write them out of fiction in a basement .
Gee may be John WOUKD write it this way ...And Mark put it differently .
Or DUD the apostles and Paul either write it have written by their disciples ..the true words of Christ ...did they or did they not.
Are,Paul's letters,from Paul ..John's,words,from John ..etc..
To get answers that are viable, you won't get them by asking another so-called "Christian", as it will only get you a biased answer.

In order to find the answers you seek, one must step outside their comfort zone of a religious belief and step into the non-secular world.

Do the research of the canon and non-canon, as well as, studying and understanding various religions across the globe.

Good luck.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#474886 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for agreeing that men decided what you are to believe and what you are not to believe.
So much for "God" being involved with your belief.
ah not exactly. lol. The choice is still mine.

Do you know that Jesus didn't write anything in the Bible? The Gospels are recollections of..... men! Do you believe those men? They said Jesus said to do this and that.
Why do you believe those men?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474887 Sep 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholics are born again too.
Your term is much different than non-Catholics.

How are Catholics 'born again'? In other words, what is the difference between a Catholic 'born again' so-called "Christian" and someone who is of another denomination?
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>Frankly, I question whether or not you're born again in the way Christ wills.

As I question you and the Catholics. Jesus tells us to "know yourself" - whereas Catholics rbuke what Jesus stated.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>I see you falsely accusing me and other Catholics;

Accusing you of what? I accuse you directly of not believing in all of what Jesus taught. This is a fact.

I do undetstand your concern with other non-Catholics and their accusations, so maybe there are items that you could "examine within" to help resolve your anomosity.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>I see you undoing the Eucharist;

The Eucharist is symbolic - that will never change, no matter how often people refute it. Understanding it is something completely different. So far Christianity has it all wrong.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>I listen as you pick apart the Church using their scriptures against them.
The so-called "Church" - as related to the RCC or Orthodoxy - has never been defined, and if it is, it was only defined by men.

Using texts to "pick apart' a creation of men, is really irrelevant.

Maybe it is time you turn toward "God", instead of men.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that any of you still experience the profound grace of God even though you undid virtually everything the Apostles taught is not do to your man made doctrines, but due to the infinite love God has for you.

Considering Christianity only uses less than six of the original 13 Apostles, you are sitting in the same room as those you admonish.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>I'm in awe of Gods profound Mercy.

But you'll turn a blind eye to his "mercy" when "He" allows a young girl gang raped multiple times, or when children freeze to death when trying to get home on Christmas.

You see only what you want to see - what men place in front of you.

BTW - that would also be Self.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>He doesn't deprive you all of some grace and that's amazing.
Uh-huh. Sure.

Why do you believe men?
Michael

Canada

#474888 Sep 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Your salvation ain't up to me.
But the bottom line is you undid the word of God. If you are comfortable with that than so be it. Let your words and actions stand before Him.
Clay says.......Your salvation ain't up to me.

Michael says.....What makes you so positive that your own salvation is bullit proof? Since the beginning mankind has feared the unknown just as you do and will put his entire belief in the hands of unknown people who wrote stuff down 2,000 years ago scaring everyone into believing.
Michael

Canada

#474889 Sep 5, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Through honesty, I've reserved to say where I [my spirit] will end up, BECAUSE I DON"T KNOW!!
But that doesn't mean I don't like to believe it will be in some sort of "paradise", because that would be untrue. I want to beleive we all go to someplace special that is "pure love".
But alas, since I have not died, had any NDEs, or anything, I guess I have to just wait, just like everyone else, but being honest in the manner of what I have said - I don't know.
Again, those who tell you there is a place, are only using their Self to formulate a fantasy, and in truth, they have no idea where they will be going either.
Being honest and saying you don't know is most truthful and the best policy.

..... How can anyone with common sense born into their particular belief by chance only! have answers to after death knowledge if no one has come back to verify their results?

Almost all religions teach the same thing. Scare the hell out of their followers to keep them believing and in the herd. Some say there is a Jesus, some say Allah, some believe there is a Sasquash, some say there is a bigfoot, or lockness monster some say others. Until one of these spirits in the sky, or invisible monsters from the woods actually appears to all of us, I will continue to sit on the sidelines and not endorse any religious belief or made up monster from the wild.

........its common sense!



truth

Perth, Australia

#474890 Sep 5, 2013
evil serve evil
perfect luciferian circle
evil have many face on many place
as well
remember
every spirit is not holy

they can set up many evil as well good things
as miracle like never before

its not coming from god
its belong to possessors and deceivers
why pray for that evil place where evil allredy stay and know..

by
truth

Perth, Australia

#474891 Sep 5, 2013
design is part of creation
smoth silky skin with bones and spirit in within..

its bring me in light
i walk
i talk between them
they don't realize
it is as it is

open wound
they liked died but can't=smooth silky skin

design is part of Creation
remember my son
my words

i walk in this city where nothing exist
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#474892 Sep 5, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Your the fence stradder by not siding with us when we have clearly said a, SAVED PERSON WILL SUFFER AT THE HANDS OF GOD WHEN THEY SIN because the Father loves His children.
They lie and continue to lie that we say it's ok to sin.
We warn saved people could get sick or even die with no rewards in heaven if they continue to sin.
Never does the Gospel say a Saved person could lose their salvation.
Pick now whom you shall serve.
marge

The question of OSAS is true or not true, is a difficult question to answer. In a sense we are "trying" to answer for God, which puts one in jeopardy of breaking the first commandment.

Jesus died for all..., these words in the Bible, also have been variously interpreted.

A lot of the issue comes to one's world-view, of what being "saved" means. Does one get a front or back row seat, or standing room only in heaven...?

Perhaps the more emphatic we are with our answer to the question of OSAS, the less truth exists. Instead it may remain a mystery, or a paradox of faith and hope in Jesus Christ.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#474893 Sep 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Your salvation ain't up to me.
But the bottom line is you undid the word of God. If you are comfortable with that than so be it. Let your words and actions stand before Him.
Chuck has always used the Scripture to verify what he believes is sound doctrine.

therefore he walks in the "light' that he has received. and I have no problem with that, so why should you, a catholic who doesn't believe in being Born Again as chuck and I do, mock his beliefs?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#474894 Sep 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a great one to say what you have.
FIRST OFF.....NO ONE CAN UNDO THE WORD OF GOD...
Psa_119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
SECONDLY..
Your religious organization has set aside the word of God and
ATTEMPTED TO REPLACE IT WITH YOUR OWN CONJECTURE....
BETTER SWEEP OFF YOU OWN BACK PORCH...
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
NOTE
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and
by him all things consist.
NOTE AGAIN
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
THIS IS WHERE YOUR RELIGIOUS SYSTEM .. FAILS
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and
be not moved away from the hope of the gospel,
which ye have heard, and
which was preached to every creature which is under heaven;
whereof I Paul am made a minister;
I DO NOT THINK THAT BELIEVING OR NOT BELIEVING IN O S A S IS CRUCIAL
TO ONE'S SALVATION...
BUT
THE RITUALS, CALISTHENICS...ESPECIALLY ...REPLACING THE HOLY GHOST WITH A POPE,
LAYING CLAIM TO A MONOPOLY TO HEAVEN...LYING ABOUT THE
MOTHER OF JESUS
AND WORSHIPING IDOLS...
ARE WILLFUL SINS AGAINST GOD.
What I keep asking is if the,RCC preserved the scriptures and believe
They are inspired

Why they think it's,wrong to believe,..unless,they don't believe that .
They are the word s,if the,authors,.

One person on here posted that John didn't write John ..etc .

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#474895 Sep 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure why you feel the need to take my statement and twist it to mean something entirely different. We agree on John 3:16 Rose. We don't agree on what "believing in Him" means.
What do you think it means,...it seems quite clear to me..
Regina

Bloomfield, NJ

#474896 Sep 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>

One person on here posted that John didn't write John ..etc .
Is that person Catholic?
truth

Perth, Australia

#474897 Sep 5, 2013
they will offer miracle like never before

serve your evil
evil is evil
not me
neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

n

i walk in this city where nothing exist

Since: Nov 08

usa

#474898 Sep 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
From my perception Jesus didn't write anything because Jesus didn't exist.
All savior myths were stories told by men for men.
Women were too busy cooking meals,(if there was any food available)... cleaning house and washing diapers and trying to survive the birth of the next babies who would grow up and repeat the same suffering for the men of the hierarchies.
again I can't argue with you hear, you could be right, there could of been a person named Jesus (very common name there)and he just claimed to be the son of god, in other words the worlds first religious nut, and he could of been asked questions on which he told stories of ones he heard growing up, we really don't know much about his childhood except that it is believed he killed someone when he was at a young age, now if that is true why didn't he receive the punishment that every murderer received back in those days? I think what is hidden in the vaults of Vatican city are the stories/legends told of his days as a youth,and more, why is it allowed to be hidden? gods words were meant for everyone, not a select few, again reasons I doubt their validity, the true church would share the truth, and that is the last thing they do. since most everything in Vatican city is stolen property, I don't understand why nothing is being done to have the things returned to it's rightful owner? most everything came from Israel, the Israelis have a large enough army to go to Vatican city and reclaim their property. this seems to be the era where everyone wants a war, so why not have a war for a true worthy cause....and until some truth pops up I believe that the real writer or starter of the scriptures was a man called Jesus and penned under the name of mosses, and added himself to the book, when he felt the time was right. and there is the possibility that god was an alien from another planet that visited here, there is some very compelling evidence out there written many many years before any body thought of organized religious groups, and we also know that man was here at least 30 million years ago, the bible states other wise, there are physical facts to prove the possibility of an alien race being here, and not one bit of proof of the single god theory people believe in today.

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