Jesus spoke to crowds for sure And touched INDIVIDUAL hearts ..But when He healed it was,one on one ..OldJG wrote:
You said, quote, "Maybe the simplest way to see the difference is this: Fundamentalists see the Church as mans gift (of worship) to God, while Catholics see it as Gods gift (of salvation) to man. End quote.
One of the most asinine ignorant statements spoken by a Roman Catholic. Absolutely stupid.
You said, quote,For fundamentalists, were saved as individuals and then join in a kind of ecclesiastical chorus to sing our thanks back to God. For Catholics, we are saved precisely by being incorporated into the Church, Christs mystical Body, as Noah and his family were saved by being put into the ark.(Many of the Church Fathers use the ark as a symbol for the Church.) End quote.
Everyone, if they are going to be saved it will be individually not corporately.
You said, quote,Its as if to extend the metaphor fundamentalists prefer to be saved by clinging to individual life preservers, then tying them together for fellowship. End quote.
Tying them together? You are nuts?
You said, quote,To Catholics, the Church is the mystical Body of Christ. The Church is a mystery. Fundamentalists dont understand this category.Mystery sounds suspiciously pagan to them. They want their religion to be clear and simple (as Moslems do). Theyll admit, of course, that Gods ways are not our ways and often appear mysterious to us. But they dont want their Church to be mysterious, like God, because they dont think of it as an extension of God but as an extension of man. End quote.
God did not make salvation a mystery. Even a child can understantd the Gospel message. Obviously, Roman Catholics cannot. Also, spelling is not your long suit is it? Moslems? What is a Moslem?
Again, you never answer the questions or challenge my statements regarding your dribble. Why not? Rat got your tongue? Evidently you have no answer and agree. Thank you! It finally sank in.
Dr. Peter Kreeft is nothing more than a former Protestant. You gave him a title of "former evangelical fundamentalist". Actually, he is nothing more than a former Protestant.
He,said IF YOU BELIEVE...some did. Some rejected Him .
Every person who heard Him was NOT SAVED ...only those who believed.