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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Feb 08

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#473700 Aug 28, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are on the wrong page...I never have questioned the teaching that God is the Holy Trinity...the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit..
Which, as stated, is contradictory.....If Christ is the Son of God, and if Emmanuel means "God with us", that is saying Christ is God????!!!!!
Try this: Since there is only one God....who is God in "God with us"????
I give up.

You explain what "God with us" means in that verse.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473701 Aug 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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What's first-hand about the account of Thomas??? That is simply another regurgitated myth that travelled through 2000 years plus of morphing ... that just happens to suit YOUR gnostic religious tastes for fiction.
In the least, Thomas was a first gen-Apostle, thus it can be considered a first-hand account.

Now if we were to compare that text with something by "Paul", who was a third generation disciple, you can now understand the difference between the two accounts.

June - all it does is require you to take some time researching.
Regina

Bloomfield, NJ

#473702 Aug 28, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Lying is nothing new for Regina. She stated to me that she has never cussed at anyone on this forum. I produced the post and she went into hiding for a few months and now she's back. Regina is your typical catholic. Religious, goes to church, tries to be the best she can be, follows church rituals and rules but at the end of the day, she has no born again experience.....none
Oh, Charles, stop being such a baby. I didn't cuss at anyone and you never proved I did...because I didn't. See how that works? Liar.

But I'll bet you call me or another Catholic a name any minute now. It's what you do, it's how you operate. You see, that was my original point which you so deceptively deflected by turning the attention on me and accusing me of cursing at someone. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#473703 Aug 28, 2013
Yeah, but but they arent me the great Herme the voice of the entire Orthodox church and my wife who became a schismatic 3 years ago and posts trash because she is all about forgiving and I the Great Herm am the voice of God and...

NO PROTESTANTS have any Grace and MUST be baptized thrice in a Herme approved church and those other Orthodox who disagree well pffffhhhh they are not really Orthodox. lol

What a phony loser you are. You are a joke and incapable of telling truth. You are nothing but a vile hillbilly who likes to argue from ignorance and doublespeak. I do think you are a Protestant who likes to mold Orthodoxy to your own opinions, but you are an idiot and a proeven liar not worth arguing with.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#473704 Aug 28, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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You should know, since you were raised Catholic, that it is not the image that is venerated, it is the person whom the image represents. This should not be a difficult thing to understand.
Don't you have pictures of your loved ones in your wallet or on your walls? Do you mistake the photo for your wife? Do you mistake the photo for God? When you look at the photo of your wife are you worshipping her? When you visit your parents' graves and talk to them, are you worshipping their grave markers?
Human reasoning is fine if that is a far as you want to go Just Sayin,but the truth is I know that a statue is not a person.But Catholics form attachments to statues,especially if they pray before them,reciting rosaries and praying rote prayers before them,candles and all.Not many Catholics do such,but I have seen those that did.

As I told Human Being the whole matter of argument with a Catholic concerning the use of statues is rather redundant,because you are all so protective of them.YET,the LORD God of Israel abhorred them and despised seeing them especially amongst His people.

Idols I know are gods and goddesses,but really a statue of the Sacred Heart of Christ represents the GOD and Savior of us all Jesus Christ.You do not see anything wrong with that,but GOD commanded in the first commandment,and the 2nd NOT to made such things.READ the Ten Commandments in the King James. You have to realize that such a command is embedded in the conscience of those who believed and now believe as well.I take the Word seriously,and reject human reasoning when God says"You will not have any gods before me"And He elaborates,I find Catholic reasoning for statues to be quite unique in that it so resembles the paganism of Rome,and it rejects God's commandment to the Hebrews(Jews).

Think about this,no matter what your reasoning to have statues,God said He abhors and despises them,do not use them,or make them,or set them up in your presence.The COMMAND demands Obedience,so if we cannot obey God no matter what our reasoning,than we already are found disobedient and breaking His Law.

Adam and Eve saw that fruit,it was no doubt very sumptuious to them,they wanted it so bad,knowing God told them it was forbidden.The SERPENT reasoned with Eve,told her that the fruit was good,it would meet her desires,and it was good for her,both evil and good would be known to her as well.

Adam and Eve reasoned within themselves,and their reasoning seemed practical and wonderful,but they disobeyed the Father,He told them later.But it is no different for us,a statue in and of itself would seem so harmless,it cannot hear or speak.It is beauritful to look at,but GOD,BUT G O D, told His people never to make them.How is it okay for the followers of Jesus His Son to make millions of such things,adorn their churches with them and venerate them with great pomp,rituals,songs,canticles and so on? That escapes my reasoning as a believer."
as for me and my household we will serve the Lord." I quote this to confirm that we will not have such things in our midst,nor will we worship where they are mounted on the main altars of churches.

It is a powerful thing to serve the Lord,dear ones,and often we are required not to go along with the flow,even if it seems ridiculous!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#473705 Aug 28, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Yes, I once told you exactly what I posted here today...anyone can change them, just as we've been explaining to you. It's no big deal, not sure why you're making it one, and no idea why you insist that I'm the one who's doing it. I told you I very seldom use them anymore. If they bother you so much, maybe you shouldn't come here. Lots of people lurking on these boards, Sera. You admitted doing it for months. Now take your hate somewhere else, it's ugly and tiresome.
NO! You once told me that YOU knew how to change them and did so...that's my point and only that! They don't bother me your, lying bothers me more. I never admitted to LURKING here.Maybe that's what YOU have been doing these past few weeks.Stop trying to super impose you on to me.Be responsible for your own actions please..and your right about hate being ugly and tiresome. I don't hate you...
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#473706 Aug 28, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>And you do not have priests who are only pushing the practices to appease the Church,but yet they themselves personally reject them? That minister sounds like a spineless jelly fish,and he does not represent the whole evangelical movemment. Just like those priests of modern relativity do not represent fully the RCC,being the only voice for it.YET the trouble is we all have charlatans in our churches,as Satan works overtime with his hords of demons to diminish even by one iota the truth through ministers and priests,and other religious.
I believe that the LORD is working in all the Christian churches and denominations,but that He has those who are half-hearted,and end up serving TWO Masters.
The Apostles warned us of false apostles,teachers and ministers.Nevertheless in spite of our differences in Christ we can be united.He alone is the Savior the one who makes all things NEW. His Spirit is able to change a human mind and heart.The fact that you may think all of what the RCC does is perfect and the basis of being the true church is your opinion,based on years of following it,and believing.But the things you so take for granted are not universal as it were with all Christians.We have every right to reject statues,the wearing of miraculous medals,scapulars,and the recitation of the Rosary.We have every right to reject the Apparitions of the RCC,and all the doctrines concerning the Blessed Mother.Because the Bible especially the New Testament does not for one verse of word support any of those things.
At the same time we have been instructed by Christ to love the brethren,and sisters who are in Christ.We must love one another,for Love is the greatest PROOF of the reality of the Godhead(Trinity).To hate you as a Catholic is to lie to God,for I was called to encourage and build up the church not tear it down.Just because we do not accept your practices,it does not mean we do not accept you as a believer,and what God has done in your life for His Glory.
There is much today in the way of Christians coming together,but in Christ we are one,not in affiliations,which really will be obsolete when JESUS comes again in full glory.He will rule with a rod of iron,and He will also rule in Righteousness and Truth,that is our HOPE! All these other things are mere distractions.
It is true that satan works his evil where ever he can and always tries to corrupt what is good, righteous, and true.
The Catholic Church is by no means perfect in all that She does. She is only infallible in teaching matters of Faith and Morals. Certainly, like every other group of people, there are sinners of all stripes. That, if nothing else, unifies the entire world.

I am aware that not everyone believes the things the CC teaches, nor do they worship the way the CC does. You are free to not accept the Apparitions and all other private revelations. You are free to not wear the scapular, pray the rosary, fast, and give alms. You are free to refuse to venerate the saints. You are free to reject the Sacraments. You are free to reject all spiritual authority which is over you. You are certainly free to skip Church on Sunday's as well. You are free to reject any and all doctrine which has been taught and believed since the time of Christ. You are absolutely free to reject anything you choose to reject and tailor make "christianity" to suit yourself.
(Just saying that is what so many people do. I'm not accusing you of these things.)

Something to think about though: Oxbox steadily claims he is Christian, yet he doesn't believe that Jesus is God the Son. So, the question is...how much "Christianity" can you throw out before you are no longer "Christian"?
Patriot

Denver, CO

#473707 Aug 28, 2013
Black Death returns: 1 dead in Kyrgyzstan, 3 ill, 131 quarantined – fear rampant

August 28, 2013

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20...

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When the Lamb broke the Fourth Seal, I heard the fourth living being say,“Come!” I looked up and saw a horse whose color was pale green. Its rider was named Death, and his companion was the Grave. These two were given authority over one-fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword (war) and famine and disease (plague) and wild animals.

http://biblehub.com/nlt/revelation/6.htm vs 7,8.

Throughout time GOD has used His "four dreadful judgments" in His dealings with "Wickedness" (see Zechariah 5)-
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/14-21.htm

The "pale green" mentioned in this article - http://www.thelocal.es/20130826/mystery-meteo... , brings to mind Jesus breaking the fourth seal and this - http://biblehub.com/luke/21-25.htm .

We are entering the Great Tribulation which will include The Trumpets described in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ which GOD gave Him to show..." starting in ch. 8 vs 7 and GOD'S last warning Messages of Revelation 14:6-12 http://biblehub.com/hcsb/revelation/14.htm &
http://biblehub.com/hcsb/revelation/18.htm .

Remember - Christ is our peace with GOD - "It is because of Him (The Father) that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us Wisdom from GOD--that is (Christ Jesus is), our righteousness, holiness and redemption."

http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-30.htm ,
http://biblehub.com/colossians/1-20.htm
chuck

Dublin, OH

#473708 Aug 28, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Oh, Charles, stop being such a baby. I didn't cuss at anyone and you never proved I did...because I didn't. See how that works? Liar.
But I'll bet you call me or another Catholic a name any minute now. It's what you do, it's how you operate. You see, that was my original point which you so deceptively deflected by turning the attention on me and accusing me of cursing at someone. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
You're pathetic...
I proved it and you know it. Lets why you've been gone for a few months. Now go to your priest and confess.

Like I said, no born again experience whatsoever...none.
Regina

Bloomfield, NJ

#473709 Aug 28, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>You just dont have a clue do you?
More of one than you do. What you posted is a denial of the Real Presence which contradicts Orthodox belief. I'm not the only one who's told you this, Herme.

Why won't you post the link? Why do you never, ever post links? Why are you hiding your sources?
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#473710 Aug 28, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Yes, I once told you exactly what I posted here today...anyone can change them, just as we've been explaining to you. It's no big deal, not sure why you're making it one, and no idea why you insist that I'm the one who's doing it. I told you I very seldom use them anymore. If they bother you so much, maybe you shouldn't come here. Lots of people lurking on these boards, Sera. You admitted doing it for months. Now take your hate somewhere else, it's ugly and tiresome.
Yes it is tiresome. Regina they do not have a sincere bone in their body. They have told so many lies its dispicable. It is so obvious they are spiteful and have no forgiveness and toss truth aside just so they can be happy in fogged victory in their small minds. Pray for those who are in leadership to diligently study and strive for commonality. Obviously these two just want to babble nonsense and slander. I find them to be beyond detestable. They have the great Apostle Preston and Ox. I would love for Seres so called Catholic friend to come here and see what they are all about. Sad and pathetic.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#473711 Aug 28, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Oh, Charles, stop being such a baby. I didn't cuss at anyone and you never proved I did...because I didn't. See how that works? Liar.
But I'll bet you call me or another Catholic a name any minute now. It's what you do, it's how you operate. You see, that was my original point which you so deceptively deflected by turning the attention on me and accusing me of cursing at someone. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Your post had the initials of a cuss word, ask your friend Clay because he said that is not actually cussing. Tony on the other hand said it is because you were insinuating it.

Take it up with them sweetheart..you're pathetic

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#473712 Aug 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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"I have witnessed with my own eyes what my mother in law and my Aunt experienced before they passed."
- You only witnessed their death, but had no part in what they may have seen or heard as they died and then passed.
- You, for your own comfort, only want the best for them, no matter what they believed or how they believed, so you believe in the "Comfort" instead of the actualities that you can't seem to come to terms with and say - "I really don't know what happened to them."
This is where you fail at being honest.
"The man that my father in law seen in the hospital that was near death was screaming and saying "I can feel the flames of hell."
- A "secondhand story" FoL? Do you always believe something someone else tells you that occurred to another person?
- Yep - this is why you are a so-called "Christian", because you can't accept first-hand accounts, like Thomas. You'd rather hear about what you are to believe from "a friend of a friend of a friend".
Do you even understadn what you are saying?
First and fore most,get this straight dude!!!

My father in law is a Godly man that does not lie,period.

I have a lot of confidence in what he say's.

He lives what he preaches.

Second thing,I know with all my heart that what my Mother in law and my Aunt experienced really happened.

They were both Godly women who loved the Lord with all their hearts,just as I love Him.

They lived Godly lives and I truly believe that if a person is saved and ready to leave this old sinful world that the Lord takes that sting of death away by showing them His presence.

God uses others,even through death for a witness.

Now,you don't have to believe one word I say.

I could care less what you think.

And don't post back about "self",you have beat that dead horse way too many times.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#473713 Aug 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Wrong!! I don't have ANY hate for the faith of non-catholics. For those who respect our Catholic Faith, I will return that respect!!
For those who chose to attack our (historically and biblically TRUE) CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN FAITH (of which many bible only Protestants have come on this forum--"for that purpose only" they will "feel the heat" in return!!--The difference Rosesz is that you believe in a "bible only" religion that has ABSOLUTELY no basis of biblical or historical truth to back up ANYTHING that it teach. Sola Scriptura was never believed or taught by anyone until the 18th century. It is nothing more than an extension of the Reformation---a "man-made doctrine of belief"! And of course it is your personal decision to believe what you want! HOWEVER, Jesus Christ left HIS apostles,disciples and followers HIS CHURCH---not the bible! There was no "written word" (no bible) until over 350 years after the death of Christ. It was the Early Church Fathers who forme and complied the Canon of Scripture, from the letters, documents,and parchments from the Apostles in 382,393 and 397. The Church came first and then the bible!! If you really think that the bible is the only way for salvation, then what about the Christians, who for the 1st 1500 years--didn't have a bible. In I Timothy 3:15 Paul calls "THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH! He follows this up by saying, "if you have a question, conflict or disagreement, take it to the Church for clarification. Jesus established an "authority" for Christians, here on earth and that authority for TRUTH,is in and through HIS One True (Universal) Apostolic Catholic Church. Jesus Christ established an authority here on earth to preserve HIS revelation and decide the Bible Canon--and that authority is in Our Lords Holy Catholic Church. If you
disagree, then tell me what authority determined the Bible Canon!!!
You've obviously not read what I've posted many times..

Jesus did indeed use His disciples to spread HIS WORD .
The bible was,PUT TOGETHER years after the writings that make it up .
The letters to the Churches .in other words the SEPARATE bodies of believers ..which make up the Bride of Christ ..

The entity known as the Catholic Church came later ..But indeed did put together the writings ...which already existed inti the bible .

I believe in the scriptures. They contain the teachings of the apostles and Paul .

As far as Church goes I don't believe any priest or pastor can save anyone ..Only Jesus can .

I've had THe sacraments from the priests and Bishop ..they did not save Me.

JESUS did with the free gift of Grace giving me TRUE ABIDING FAITH .

the bible did not save Me.

The Spirit did .

Jesus through the HOLY Spirit leads us to Salvation

Is there proof ..yes in my o w n heart and Spirit ..And in the Scriptures...which you believe it not ..came long before the Catholic Church became the entity it is .

We're there churches ..yes ..they are named in the bible ..

We are all members of the CHURCH ..the bride of Christ .
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#473714 Aug 28, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Make a scene by kneeling in prayer to God....uh, huh, okay.
That's exactly what I thought. That preacher whipped himself up into a furry about how we should kneel. He would frequently preach in such a way that insulted the intelligence of the audience, all in a tone of voice which betrayed an unmistakable disdain for them. And he never made a salient point about anything. Incidently, he had a heart attack a few months after his "kneeling" sermon. I wasn't surprised. He survived and his sermons have since not been so abusive.

Proty preachers must learn this preaching/speaking technique at Bible college. Nearly every single one of them use this approach. It's to where hearing a proty sermon raises the hairs on the back of my neck.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473715 Aug 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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There is no proof that this occurred.
It is correct men wrote the texts within the Bible, men chose the texts to be included within the Bible. The HS had nothing to do with it.
Unless you think the HS inspired an additional 300+ men, besides the many unknown authors of the NT texts. Do you?
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Good. What teachings are you missing or not following?
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You don't know this, so why state it?
Please state where "God" specifically lists which texts are inspired and which are not. Please post the date that corresponds to this specific statement.
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DOyou have any proof of this, or is this what you want to believe?
Jesus never called himself "God the Son", why do you?
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Two different statements, that neither have anything to do with each other.
True, in that the "truth can be known" - when we die.
False conclusion to state that you know "God" intimately enough to establish that he is the "unchanging Creator of the Universe".
- There is no proof that any god exists or existed. It is just a belief that was formulated by men for men to control others.
Why do you think those men were accurate, considering their limited access of "God" and that they are fallible?
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No - faith is learned.
Just Sayin wrote:
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God has established His Church as the authority in Faith and Morals.
...says men, not "God".
Just Sayin wrote:
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He promised that the gates of Hell will never prevail against it.

...says men, not "God"
Just Sayin wrote:
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I believe Him and I trust His Church to guide the people in these matters.

How so? You only believe in a portion of Jesus.

You clearly refuse to believe Jesus when he states:
(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm

You must like believing what men have told you.

One does not need men or any organization to believe or love "God". They just need to make a personal decision to do so.

No religion required. No words required. Nothing is required, except a decision to do so.
Just Sayin wrote:
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Therefore all the books of the Bible were given to us ultimately by the guidance of the HS so that mankind might be saved from eternal destruction.

More requirements, but yet you can't post where these requirements have been stated by "God".

You'll post all other pseudo-sources, but never a statement by "God".

*sighs*

<<continued>>

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473716 Aug 28, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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God did this out of Love for us whom He created.
...as said by men.
Just Sayin wrote:
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The HS may or may not have inspired other writers.
Well, I gotta give you credit for at least acknowledging that honesty can be spoken by yourself.

In other words, you don't know what the HS or "God" can or cannot do, so please don't claim you can.
Just Sayin wrote:
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It is not for me to say who He did or did not inspire, unless what they write clearly goes against the teachings of the Church and Scripture.
Darn tootin' you can't say, because you don't know.

Not one living person on this planet can justify soemthing as being inspired and something is not. Only men make these decisions and you follow right along on their coat-tails expressing the same.

Why do you believe men over Jesus?
Just Sayin wrote:
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Teachings, I am not missing.

Yes you are.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
"Jesus said" - appears alot - indicating a teaching by Jesus

Strike one.

ttp://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/g th_pat_rob.htm
"1 The teaching [of the Savi]or and the re[vel]ation of the mysteries [together with the things] hidden in silence a[nd those (things) w]hich he taught to Joh[n, his dis]ciple."

Strike two.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/dialog.html
"The Savior said to his disciples,"

Strike three.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#473717 Aug 28, 2013
I have a Jewish Bible,written by the Jewish press,and circulated to all Jewish congregations throughout the Chicago area.

This Bible brings out the ten commandments,but I will post what it says:

First commandment of the LORD GOD to Moses EXODUS

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
YOU shall have no other gods beside me.
You shall not make for yourself any idols in the shape of anything that is in heaven above,or that is on the earth below, or that is in the water under the earth.
You shall not bow down to them nor worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing children for the sins of their fathers, down to the third or fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing kindness to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
You shall not utter the name of the Lord your God in vain; for the Lord will not hold guiltless anyone who utters his name in vain.

Perhaps you can say we do not do that,but you broke the commandment from the start by making the statues,carved,and enshrined to begin with,whether you worship them or not is immaterial,you already disobeyed the LORD.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473718 Aug 28, 2013
<<continued>>
Just Sayin wrote:
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The directives necessary for salvation have been given to the Church by God. He does not make these secret. However, I have failed in obeying them all the time.
a. The so-called "Church" has never been defined unanimously, so your use of it is only in the way you express it - as an opinion.

b. Correct, "God" or the HS didn't make any text secret, although men tried to by destroying, labeling, and refusing to acknowledge any and all texts that could be construed as such.

And guess what, you fell for it. Bummer for you.
Just Sayin wrote:
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I know that God does not have multiple personalities since such an entity could not have created this universe which always and everywhere (so far as we can determine) obeys the rules of physics all while being incredibly complex. It is a unified whole, therefore it's Creator is a unified whole.
You don't know anythgin about the personal aspects of "God", so please don't claim that you do. You only know of a "God" based upon stories other men have written.

This is another failure of you showing me that you are honest.
Just Sayin wrote:
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As for Jesus being God, I refer you once again to the books which are written on this topic. Either Jesus was/is God or He was a lunatic. You can follow the logic of the argument or not.
Books written by men, describing the topic is not Jesus stating he is "God". Why don't you post the specific passage - anywhere - canon or non-canon, that has Jesus stating: "I am God."

Specific. Got it? Direct and very straight-forward. "I am God."
Just Sayin wrote:
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I call Jesus "God the Son" because He is God the Son. See the above paragraph.
You call Jesus, "God the Son", because other people told you to believe it this way.

When you can honest admit that Jesus never called himself "God", then you can admit to using honesty. It is that simple.
Just Sayin wrote:
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You believe the truth can only be known when we die. I wonder, then, whether you believe there is a hell and a heaven and if so, are there requirements one must meet before arriving either place? I am curious. Since that will help me understand what kind of god you believe in.
You haven't been reading any of my previous posts, huh?

I went through all of this with June. I am not going to go through it again with you. You amy go back in the forum posts and look for those entries though.

As I have stated numerous times, my beliefs are really of no concern to you. If you want to post a refutation to why I think the RCC promote bologna, then do so, but please try to stay focused with the forum's topic.

Thanks for reading my post and responding.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473719 Aug 28, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I think it would help me out a lot if you could just state what "all absolute truths" you believe in.
That would really help, instead of you being evasive and trying to play tag.
I did post three. To post "ALL" would take me years. I'd rather write a book and publish it, if I were to do that.

From the post you responded with:
Sure I believe in an absolute truth.
- Christianity only believes in a portion of Jesus, whereas I believe in all of Jesus.
- Christianity uses more of what "Paul's gospel" states than they do of Jesus.
- Christianity uses less than six of the original 13 Apostles to come to some sort of truth.
All abosolute truths that I believe.

"instead of you being evasive and trying to play tag."
- Ad hominem.
- I post direct statements. Whether or not you read them is not my concern. But with you stating I don't post certain things, because you think I am being evasive, then maybe you should ask for clarification to what I post, instead of assuming I am not responding.

Maybe, you just don't like the statements I do post and are using this tactic to evade dealing with them altogether. I don't know. Diversion shows itself in so many different ways with your people. Your response has been very similar with other so-called "Christians", even after I've explained what I wrote multiple times. I think you just don't understand Jesus.

I think you guys just want to stay away from Jesus, but claim you are "in communion" with him, just so people will leave you to wallow alone aimlessly under teh guise that men put forth.

*shrugs*

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