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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 641704 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473172 Aug 26, 2013
Hermann Rauschning, 1939

Brave New World Revisited
by Aldous Huxley
Perennial Classics, 2000, paperback
p40

Hitler has a deep respect for the Catholic church and the Jesuit order; not because of their Christian doctrine, but because of the 'machinery' they have elaborated and controlled, their hierarchical system, their extremely clever tactics, their knowledge of human nature and their wise use of human weaknesses in ruling over believers.

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473173 Aug 26, 2013
I wonder what Hitler thought he accomplished when just before he died he married Eva Braun?

He must have had some sort of "reasoning" to his scheme.

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473174 Aug 26, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Tell to those who been indoctrinated by mad man-made religionss . Saying my religion is better yours , and all this will cause wars between religions! Religions and Politics don't mix! Look what warmonger Bushjr said His God told him War is justified and this got us into illegal wars with other nations.
Religious Insanity in America: The Official Nineteenth-Century Theory

Throughout much of the nineteenth century, psychiatrists and ordinary citizens agreed that one of the chief causes of mental illness was religious excitement.

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473175 Aug 26, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Hermann Rauschning, 1939
Brave New World Revisited
by Aldous Huxley
Perennial Classics, 2000, paperback
p40
Hitler has a deep respect for the Catholic church and the Jesuit order; not because of their Christian doctrine, but because of the 'machinery' they have elaborated and controlled, their hierarchical system, their extremely clever tactics, their knowledge of human nature and their wise use of human weaknesses in ruling over believers.
Mein Kampf … Adolf Hitler … Published 1939.

Pg. 146 down

We possess Authentic records of Chancellor Hitler's private views of the religious situation. One of these may be cited in part:'Hitler said concerning Catholic opposition, especially in Bavaria, that its fomentors were wasting their time. They might as well stop pipe-dreaming. He would not follow the example of Bismark. He was a Catholic. Providence had arranged that. Bismarck had failed because he had been a Protestant - and Protestants have no conception of what the Catholic Church is. The important thing was to sense what people felt in religious matters and what endeared the Church to them. If the clerical caste would not disappear voluntarily, he would direct propaganda against the Church until people would be unable to hide their disgust when the word 'Church' was mentioned. Why, it was necessary only to make Church history popular. He would have films made. Looking at them the German people would see how the clergy had exploited them, lived off them. How they had sucked the money out of the country. How they had worked hand in glove with the Jews, how they had practiced immoral vice, how they had spread lies. These films would be so interesting that everybody would itch to see them. He would make the clergy ridiculous. He would expose all the tangled mass of corruption, selfishness and deceit of which they had been guilty. Let the bourgeoisie tear its hair. He would have the youth and the people on his side. He would guarantee that if he set his mind to it, he could destroy the Church in a few years. The whole institution was just a hollow shell. One good kick, and it would tumble together in a heap.'
Oxbow

Westlake, LA

#473176 Aug 26, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Private interpretation of scripture alone. It's one of the many reasons people come up with idiotic ideas like implanting embryos, disciples freelancing, Jesus is not God, etc.
There is no other denomination that has more "out of the Bible source" for their "teaching" than the catlicks...

From their encyclopeepee: Jesus Christ the Son of God redeemer of the Human Race...

If that tells you they are teaching that God is Christ, and/or God is Christ, best check your air pressure...it is very very low....
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473177 Aug 26, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I wonder what Hitler thought he accomplished when just before he died he married Eva Braun?
He must have had some sort of "reasoning" to his scheme.
Who knows , with mad man like him.
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473178 Aug 26, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Mein Kampf … Adolf Hitler … Published 1939.
Pg. 146 down
We possess Authentic records of Chancellor Hitler's private views of the religious situation. One of these may be cited in part:'Hitler said concerning Catholic opposition, especially in Bavaria, that its fomentors were wasting their time. They might as well stop pipe-dreaming. He would not follow the example of Bismark. He was a Catholic. Providence had arranged that. Bismarck had failed because he had been a Protestant - and Protestants have no conception of what the Catholic Church is. The important thing was to sense what people felt in religious matters and what endeared the Church to them. If the clerical caste would not disappear voluntarily, he would direct propaganda against the Church until people would be unable to hide their disgust when the word 'Church' was mentioned. Why, it was necessary only to make Church history popular. He would have films made. Looking at them the German people would see how the clergy had exploited them, lived off them. How they had sucked the money out of the country. How they had worked hand in glove with the Jews, how they had practiced immoral vice, how they had spread lies. These films would be so interesting that everybody would itch to see them. He would make the clergy ridiculous. He would expose all the tangled mass of corruption, selfishness and deceit of which they had been guilty. Let the bourgeoisie tear its hair. He would have the youth and the people on his side. He would guarantee that if he set his mind to it, he could destroy the Church in a few years. The whole institution was just a hollow shell. One good kick, and it would tumble together in a heap.'
And US is becoming warlike , no different from warring days of Nazi Germany agendas
Clay

Garden City, MI

#473179 Aug 26, 2013
Plain Jane wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I will try to understand. If I understand correctly, salvation is possible for other Christians (along with all others). Thanks.
However, only the "truth" is revealed to you - through your church, but to no one else.
You through your church are the only ones with "communication" from God, of the Gospel to mankind.
Have I recited it correctly? I want to be sure I understand.
Forgive me, but you have to admit that such "truth" and "communication from God" might sound a tiny bit absurd to non-Catholics, especially in light of recent historical events.
Exclusive truth and communication with the Almighty? That sounds crazy to me.
I don't believe anyone or any thing has such exclusivity. At least that's what history tells me.
The revelation of the Gospel was already revealed by the Apostles by sacred scripture and sacred tradition. In short, the Apostles already explained their writings to the world. The Church they set up was put in charged of protecting the word. This Church decided to compile a Bible almost 400 yrs after Christ died and rose. This would have come about 80 yrs after Constantine legalized the faith btw.
Jesus nor His Apostles ever commanded the Church put together some of their writings in order to dictate the faith. Christians never 'got together' and opened up their Bibles to figure out their disagreements. They held a council, and the authoritative teaching Magisterium -guided by the Holy Spirit - made a decision. The validly ordained Bishops decided upon any questions, with the Bishops of Rome having the final say. That's just the why Christ set up His Church.
How else could truth be revealed and protected so mankind will know the path to Heaven? It couldn't an by 50,000 private opinions on the written scriptures..
foamer

Chicago, IL

#473180 Aug 26, 2013
catholics are not christian.
the new pope is caving in to gay demands and everything else that will get him throwed into he11 with the devil.
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473181 Aug 26, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious Insanity in America: The Official Nineteenth-Century Theory
Throughout much of the nineteenth century, psychiatrists and ordinary citizens agreed that one of the chief causes of mental illness was religious excitement.
Still ongoing into 21St Century and beyond , nonstop insanity!
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473182 Aug 26, 2013
foamer wrote:
catholics are not christian.
the new pope is caving in to gay demands and everything else that will get him throwed into he11 with the devil.
Catholicism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic
History of the term ...· Divergent interpretations
· Brief organizational ...

Catholicism is a broad term for describing specific traditions in the Christian churches in theology and doctrine, liturgy, spirituality... For many the term ...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#473183 Aug 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If Jesus Christ willed for you and everyone else to be the authority on His Ministry, then he's a phony.
If Our Lord silently waited until 1452 for the Bible to be published, so folks like you could interpret His teachings for everyone.... Then he's a phony.
If the Bible is all that He willed for His revelation of truth, but didn't tell anyone which Books- and His Apostles didn't tell anyone which Books; and they didn't properly explain their writings for us; and the truth got completely screwed up until the born again movement arrived 1900 yrs later.... Then Confrint, CHRISTIANITY IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD OF A RELIGION THIS WORLD HAS. CHRIST WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MESSIAH IF YOUR SCENARIO WAS FACT. GOT IT?
For Christianity, its either the Catholic faith or nothing. Any other scenario uses way to much ignorance and man made theories. They remove so much logic and reason and still call themselves the 'followers of the truth and the way'.
~~~
YOU WROTE

For Christianity, its either the Catholic faith or nothing.

MY FAITH IS IN JESUS CHRIST...

IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU BELIEVE..... CHRIST JESUS TO BE ...AND CALL HIM NOTHING...

JESUS SAID...

Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh_3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Joh_3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
..

THE HEBREW DEFINITION OF SALVATION ...

IS JESUS..

yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h
yesh-oo'-aw

Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is,(abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity:- deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC (so called ) CHURCH has nothing to do with THE

ETERNAL SALVATION OF ANY HUMAN BEING THAT HAS EVER BEEN BORN...

THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD HAS BEEN ASSUMED IT INTO A PLACE THAT ONLY CHRIST JESUS BELONGS...

AN YOU (POOR IGNORANT SOUL).... HAVE BOUGHT INTO IT ....

TAKEN THE BATE..HOOK LINE AND SINKER...

JESUS SAID OF YOUR POPE...

Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for

--->the prince <--- of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

-->PRINCE <-- DEFINED IN GREEK
G747
&#945;&#787;&#961; &#967;&#951;&#947; &#959;&#769;&#962;
arche&#772;gos
ar-khay-gos'
From G746 and G71; a chief leader:- author, captain, prince.

YOU FOLLOW YOUR POPE TO A PLACE OF ETERNAL SEPARATION FROM GOD.

I WILL FOLLOW JESUS...

THE ONE THAT SAID

Joh_11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

---

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,(by grace ye are saved;)

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#473184 Aug 26, 2013
sec try

Jesus Christ, though not God, is essential to the salvation of any who seek the life everlasting. Without Jesus, no one is acceptable to God, his Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the King of God's Kingdom, he is earth's High Priest, he has been given power of judging. Truly, it is just as John 14:6 says:

"Jesus said to him: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#473185 Aug 26, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Be truthful Clay,can you envision the Apostle Paul kneeling before a statue and kissing it?
I most certainly can. I do not think Paul was a paranoid schizophrenic Christian. I believe he had reason and logic. I believe he clearly knew that God could not get jealous of a statue unless we are worhiping that statue in place of God.

Please don't divert these discussions to a silly accusation like 'statue worship'. Your brand of the faith has some serious issues. Nobody on your side will acknowledge them. They all play stupid and its heartbreaking.
I ask allot of questions, I know. But nobody will answer them. And when they do, its with a vague Bible verse that could be applied in several different areas.

Example:
You say the ROMAN Catholic Church corrupted the faith. Well, how come the Eucharist, infant Baptism, and Confession to a Priest (to name a few) was in place hundreds of yrs BEFORE the Roman Empire legalized the faith?? Obviously the Roman Empire had nothing to do with those teachings. So do you honestly think that Ignatius of Antioch and Clement completely screwed up the faith - even though they heard the Gospel audibly from the Apostles??

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#473186 Aug 26, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe you are the saint, or the demon?
Opposite Word of saint:
"demon, devil, fiend"
http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
neither....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#473187 Aug 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I swear every one of you self proclaimed pastors just itch to get into a Bible verse warfare match.
Sorry sir, I know better. I say this verse. You reject it. I say that verse. You reject it. I show you a written letter from a man that learned the Gospel from Peter and John, and you call him a 'Kook'.
You know that nothin will show you that you're wrong. Your mind is made up. I won't take your bait.
But for the sake of ending the discussion once and for all, why don't you simply show from one of your verses, where Christ instructed that a Bible be compiled for the SOLE source of revelation on His Ministry.
Really, sola scriptura is the first lie that Protestantism let into their faith. From there, everything derailed.
~~~

YOU HAVE GIVEN US NOTING..

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE BUT YOUR FABLES CONJECTURE AND MAN MADE LIES..

NOTHING FROM NOTHING IS NOTHING...

Eph_2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

YOU WALK ACCORDING TO THE COURSE OF THIS (UNIVERSE) WORLD AND FOLLOW THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD...

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS A SPIRITUAL KINGDOM...

AND WILL BE

IN THE HEARTS OF BELIEVERS UNTIL CHRIST RETURNS...TO SET UP HIS PHYSICAL

KINGDOM...

JESUS HAS NO KINGDOM SET UP IN ROME ITALY

JESUS SAID SO...AND YOU ATTEMPT TO PUT HIM TO LYING...

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,

My kingdom is not of this world:

if my kingdom were of this world,

then would my servants fight,

that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

THIS IS YOU ROMAN CATHOLICS

Mat_13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

YOU REFUSE TO RECEIVE IT...
1Th_2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD...JESUS IS THE LIVING WORD AND WHEN YOU DENY THIS WORD YOU DENY HIM...

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

YOU DENY JESUS CHRIST

AND

GLORIFY PETER

MARY SAINTS

AND YOUR CHURCH...

Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#473188 Aug 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Your baseless nonsense changes not the truth: Quoting the Catholic Encyclopedia is not distorting, twisting,I pray that by the Grace of God, your eyes and ears will someday be opened.
At the present time you are blind as a bat and deaf as a stone!!!!
I lived your bible only heretical (half-truth)- so-called Christianity for over 35 years and it is NOTHING but a bunch of contradicting and inconsistent distorting and manipulating of the TRUTH of the TRUE BIBLE INTERPRETATION of the Bible---AND---TRUE Church History........ You bible only "fundies" have been living this lie for "so long" that you are actually beginning to believe "your own lies"!!! Quite frankly, "I could care less, as to WHAT you believe"!....... I/we as Catholic KNOW "without a doubt" that the TRUTH has, is and will ALWAYS grounded, sustained, confirmed and supported by over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH in and through Jesus Christ and His One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church......... You, OX, can KEEP YOUR (half-truth, half-heresy) Christianity, FOR ALL I CARE!!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!!...Go argue with your other 42,000 bible only "fundies" who don't agree with you EITHER!..... It is a "total waste of my time" -which is--better spent at Daily Mass, with Jesus in the Eucharist, the Sacraments, in prayer and the TRUE BIBLE TEACHINGS in the Catholic Church!!!

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#473189 Aug 26, 2013
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#473190 Aug 26, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>"Those who worship God,must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth." How sad that you think that worshiping God must have physical images and shrines,and the like.When actually Clay,all of that was forbidden to the early Hebrews,and the Jews never strayed from such.But if it was not good for them,how is it that the Son of the Living God who has not changed,gave to us those things you take for granted,as you go to Mass? Did Jesus give to us statues?Did He expect us to worship a host encased in the Monstrance? You say yes,but the Jews of old,and especially the Father forbade such.
You can do what you want,but the truth is your church has mixed paganism with Christianity,and you expect us to forsake what we have learned in Scripture to follow your church, with all its mixture,OH but you are the original church? I don't think so,the first church were the Apostles,we have the Scriptures,and sorry the Scriptures do not tell us to adorn our churches or houses of worship with gaudy shrines,nor do the Scriptures tell us to put things on our bodies that venerate saints.The Scriptures lead us to GRACE,which is not personal atonement for our sins.
How has the Church "Mixed Paganism" with Christianity?

Come on Pad, don't just yelp out a convenient accusation with no basis.

Is it Sunday worship that's Pagan, to coincide with the Sun god worship? Nope, Sunday observance came from the Apostles.

Is it because we have statues? Get real. Pagans weren't the only ones who had statues. Besides, they worshiped statues. We don't.

Does it interest you at all.....that Jewish temples are being unearthed today, that contain statues? Not only did God allow statues, He commanded it.

"And you shall make two Cherubim of gold; of HAMMERED WORK SHALL YOU MAKE THEM" Exodus, 25:18

Thats a graven image of Angels, Pad. God commanded the Jews to make graven images.
You guys have no right taking the first commandment out of context like that. God is not jealous of a graven image of Mary holding the infant Jesus, you goof.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#473191 Aug 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I lived your bible only heretical (half-truth)- so-called Christianity for over 35 years and it is NOTHING but a bunch of contradicting and inconsistent distorting and manipulating of the TRUTH of the TRUE BIBLE INTERPRETATION of the Bible---AND---TRUE Church History........ You bible only "fundies" have been living this lie for "so long" that you are actually beginning to believe "your own lies"!!! Quite frankly, "I could care less, as to WHAT you believe"!....... I/we as Catholic KNOW "without a doubt" that the TRUTH has, is and will ALWAYS grounded, sustained, confirmed and supported by over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH in and through Jesus Christ and His One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church......... You, OX, can KEEP YOUR (half-truth, half-heresy) Christianity, FOR ALL I CARE!!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!!...Go argue with your other 42,000 bible only "fundies" who don't agree with you EITHER!..... It is a "total waste of my time" -which is--better spent at Daily Mass, with Jesus in the Eucharist, the Sacraments, in prayer and the TRUE BIBLE TEACHINGS in the Catholic Church!!!
YOU WROTE
I lived your bible only heretical (half-truth)- so-called Christianity for over 35 years

YOU LIE...THROUGH YOU TEETH...

IF YOU HAD EVER BEEN

A TRULY BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT INTO YOUR ROMAN CATHOLIC CULT..

YOU EVIDENTLY ATTENDED

THE FIRST ICE BOX CHURCH WHERE THE PREACHER FEED THE CONGREGATION

FROZEN T.V. DINNERS....AND YOU ENJOYED THE HAPPY HOUR...IN THE BASEMENT..

WHERE MANY WERE COLD AND FEW WERE FROZEN...

WHERE IF JESUS WERE TO HAVE ATTENDED... ONCE ..YOU DEACONS WOULD HAVE

EVICTED HIM...

SO YOU TRADED ONE SOCIAL CLUB FOR ANOTHER...

YOU HAVEN'T THE SLIGHTEST IDEA WHAT A TRUE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE IS...

BUT IF YOU GET INTO HEAVEN YOU WILL HAVE TO OBEY JESUS

HE SAID...

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

iFYOU HAD LIVED

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