Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472333 Aug 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where I have distorted, manipulated and twisted the truth in the Bible regards the church Christ built....
Lie number one ... according to Christian theologians Christ was a Jew, and Jews faithful to Judaism would not recommend the building of churches. They would recommend the building of synagogues.

Number two is all the other sh*t piled on top of number one.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472334 Aug 21, 2013
Camel32 wrote:
people should understand that all religions are bullshits. the world is in deep shit coz ppl are generally retarded and dont like to do their own researches.
slaves
People in religion don't believe they are slaves. They believe their mastery over words in their books gives them messages straight from gods.

I perceive that they are euphoric from over-stimulation of their brain-cells from feeding the cells too many endorphins.

It's the same type of HIGH people get from extreme sports or from gambling at a casino, or from believing one's self to be irresistible to the opposite gender, or if homosexual, to the same gender.

It all reverts back to how the stimulation makes the believers FEEL, and the believers then wants more and more of the same brain-cell stimulation.

To believe that a god is behind the motivation, is very powerful stimuli to those who place faith in such nonsense.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472335 Aug 21, 2013
Animal hoarders are certain that the animals LOVE them unconditionally ... which is an illusion ... but it seems real to believing the illusion.

Those animals when removed from such horrendous situations and are adopted to new owners are relieved of the obsession put upon them by the animal hoarders who were certain the animals would not be happy if they were removed from their supposed care.

They don't even care that the animals are living in horrible conditions, full of diseases, suffering from malnutrition, tripping over each other in their desperate need to survive.

Humans are needy and often are determined to fill the NEED of the illusion of being LOVED.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472336 Aug 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where I have distorted, manipulated and twisted the truth in the Bible regards the church Christ built....
Jesus Christ established One (and only one) Church: Matt. 16:13-21
and (His Church is referred to over 30 times in the New Testament)
Jesus' Church is heirachical, authoritative and visible with Bishops, priest, deacons and elders: Acts 2
The one (Universal Church) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH 1Timothy 3:15
(Paul does not say that the TRUTH is in the bible alone)
Jesus Christs gives us HIS TRUE BODY AND TRUE BLOOD in John 6:47-59
which is the Eucharist "for unless you eat my body (which is REAL FOOD and drink my blood which is REAL DRINK--you "cannot have eternal life"
For over 2000 years TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY has confirmed, varified and authenticated the above TRUTHS over and over and over again---and you 21st modernistic "personal opinionated" editorialist bible interpreter "fundies" have "rejected these biblical and historical PROVEN TRUTHS----by spread distortions, lies and deceit regarding these TRUTHS---- to your own demise and destruction.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472337 Aug 21, 2013
If I were to believe that a god or gods gave messages to some people to in turn write into books ... in all fairness, I perceive that I would have to believe that the same god or gods gave messages to ALL humans to in turn write into books.

It would be the only fair way of perceiving.

So what are we left with other than piles and piles of lies ... taught as absolute truth?

Theologians are to blame for starting the lies ... and those who cling to the lies are to blame for spreading the lies.

You can choose to change your patterns of deception by leaving religion ... or you can continue on your same "beaten" paths of deception.

The onus is on you.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472338 Aug 21, 2013
I have NO need to feel that I am loved by a god that allows a hell to exist for those he does NOT love.

Such idiocy is based on illusion of the most severe human depraved dis-ease.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472339 Aug 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
edited for space
Hogwash....
You are saying the English dictionary is lying, your poop is a liar, your catlick encyclopee is lying, the SBC is lying, Strong's lexicon is lying..
denomnation: A large group of religious congregations united under a common faith and name and organized under a single administrative and legal hierarchy.
The Roman Catholic church is a denomination of the Christian faith. Christ built not any...none...zilich denominations...He built His church.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
church: ekklesia, a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.
Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built.
The NABre poop arroved Catlick bible: Church: this word (Greek ekkl&#275;sia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God.
Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built
The SBC teaches:
A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is an autonomous local congregation of baptized believers, associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel; observing the two ordinances of Christ, governed by His laws, exercising the gifts, rights, and privileges invested in them by His Word, and seeking to extend the gospel to the ends of the earth. Each congregation operates under the Lordship of Christ through democratic processes. In such a congregation each member is responsible and accountable to Christ as Lord. Its scriptural officers are pastors and deacons. While both men and women are gifted for service in the church, the office of pastor is limited to men as qualified by Scripture.
The New Testament speaks also of the church as the Body of Christ which includes all of the redeemed of all the ages, believers from every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation.
Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built
The catlick encyclopdia: church: The term church is the name employed in the Teutonic languages to render the Greek ekklesia (ecclesia), the term by which the New Testament writers denote the society founded by Jesus Christ....
Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built
This is just more of your "same old" distortions, lies and deceit that you OX "in your own deperation" will say or do ANYTHING in order to spread your anti-catholic heretical "trash opinions" by twisting and manipulating the TRUTH of the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible and the TRUTH of TRUE Sacred Church History that has not changed for over 2000 years. The TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, has, is and will ALWAYS be manifested in Jesus Christ HIMSELF and in HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church------and NOT in your own "disjointed personal opinion" which is just another one of the 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent "hodge-podge" of "what each person thinks" religious denominations of conflicting interpretations. You have become an "expert" at manipulating the TRUTH of the Bible and Church History, Ox!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#472340 Aug 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You forgot to refer to me as an evil heretic, as would be the Christian way.
Jesus said"He did not come into the world to condemn the world,but that through Him it might be saved." So IF Jesus said that June,than whom am I to condemn you.But be rest assured that you can easily condemn yourself!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472341 Aug 21, 2013
Truthsayer777 wrote:
<quoted text>Same old tired song. Behold the Good News:
www.scribd.com/doc/31322017...9263
Yes!! It is the same TRUTH of the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible and the same TRUTH of TRUE Apostolic Church History that has Proven, Verfied, Substantiated and confirmed to be TRUE for over 2000 years...... Protestant bible only "fundies" have been attempting to spread and spew their OWN DISTORTED anti-catholic "snake oil" modernistic "made up" Church History "myths since the Reformation....... Unfortunatedly there have been a few "guilible" and "mislead" blind followers who have "bought into" their bible only (man-made) Church History deception, however, Jesus Christ HIMSELF in Matt 16:18 assures His TRUE FOLLOWERS that "the gates of hell, shall not prevail against HIS ONE (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church --the Bride of Christ!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472342 Aug 21, 2013
Truthsayer777 wrote:
<quoted text>Same old tired song. Behold the Good News:
www.scribd.com/doc/31322017...9263
The TRUTH of Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church may be "tiring" for you Truthsayer, but NOT for us Catholics who KNOW, BELIEVE, FOLLOW and ADHERE to "THAT PROVEN TRUTH" as other Catholics have done for over 2000 years, with Daily Mass, the TRUTH the Bible, the Eucharist (Jesus' TRUE Body and Blood), and the Sacraments, as you Protestants continue to remain on the outside of that TRUTH, always looking in, just the story of the Prodigal son in Luke 15:11----that is ---until---he eventually---
CAME TO HIS SENSES!!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#472343 Aug 21, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I see how you did that.....clever, but not clever enough....
"in all the times that you refute with all of us on this thread,you zero give us the other half of Jesus we all so miss."
"You never give us quotes of Jesus from the writings you deem more important than the Scriptures we readily share with you."
- Huh?
I've posted plenty of non-canonical texts that were inspired by "God" that shows teachings by Jesus, which also are just as credible in learning and utilizing as others.
Why do you ask I read "Paul" when we are talking about how "Jesus saves"?
- "Read Colossians 3 the first 8 verses,that should give you something of what God wants to have with His children."
You are starting to sound confused, please stay focused.
"I want from you a verse of something you read that Jesus said outside of the Scriptures."
- "I want alot of things in life, but never have seen them come to fruition."
- "I want Christianity to become honest, whcih I will never see."
- "I want...I want....I want...."
- Stop being so selfish.
- Really Pad?
- here are alot of those sayings by Jesus in various texts....
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html
You and I both know that I never said or posted"I want Christianity to become honest, which I will never see."

Nevertheless,Mr. Insult,which by the way you do well. thank you for the web-site,I will look into it.ANY suggestions on such a large list.Anything you know would be a challenge to my present supposed half hearted Christianity?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472344 Aug 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus said"He did not come into the world to condemn the world,but that through Him it might be saved."
You forgot to add the main part of the Catholic story ... that if people didn't become Catholic they would end up in hell.

Why are people as crooked as snakes?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472345 Aug 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>You and I both know that I never said or posted"I want Christianity to become honest, which I will never see."
Nevertheless,Mr. Insult,which by the way you do well. thank you for the web-site,I will look into it.ANY suggestions on such a large list.Anything you know would be a challenge to my present supposed half hearted Christianity?
You didn't say that....if you re-read what I wrote - I said it.

"Mr Insult" - nicely done!

"ANY suggestions on such a large list.Anything you know would be a challenge to my present supposed half hearted Christianity?"
- I've only asked you to use honesty and stop lying to yourself and others. Nothing more - nothing less.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472346 Aug 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<Anything you know would be a challenge to my present supposed half hearted Christianity?
I suggest that half-hearted Christianity might be a better "solution" than whole-hearted Christianity, as it would only be half as mean.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472347 Aug 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus Christ established One (and only one) Church: Matt. 16:13-21
and (His Church is referred to over 30 times in the New Testament)
Catholics authorized the new testament. Did you "honestly" believe they would state that faithful Jews built only synagogues?

Where would that leave the ex-Jew Catholics???

I suggest you use your brain for something other than believing a god can't live without you and your ridiculous form of worship.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#472348 Aug 21, 2013
If all humans quit putting faith in the existence of a creator or creators ... what other excuse would they use to kill each other and still take on shades of holiness as the blood flies in all directions?

Humans are without question the worst manipulating creatures on earth.
4GVN

Jackson, MO

#472349 Aug 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
The Holy Trinity is three....not one...!!!!
As pointed out...you are in a heavy fog....I can be equal to Mike Tyson....but that does not mean I am Mike....it does mean whatever Mike can do...so can I...
Am still waiting to see you express the Holy Trinity with Christ being God and God being Christ...Is there a problem????
Your position is as ignorant as your assumption that I and everyone else is a 'catlick'. FYI I am a member of a Southern Baptist Church. I am done trying to reason with you. You are only interested in argueing, I am not.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472350 Aug 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
If all humans quit putting faith in the existence of a creator or creators ... what other excuse would they use to kill each other and still take on shades of holiness as the blood flies in all directions?
Humans are without question the worst manipulating creatures on earth.
Nope - cats are worst.

:o)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#472351 Aug 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus Christ established One (and only one) Church: Matt. 16:13-21
and (His Church is referred to over 30 times in the New Testament)
Jesus' Church is heirachical, authoritative and visible with Bishops, priest, deacons and elders: Acts 2
The one (Universal Church) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH 1Timothy 3:15
(Paul does not say that the TRUTH is in the bible alone)
Jesus Christs gives us HIS TRUE BODY AND TRUE BLOOD in John 6:47-59
which is the Eucharist "for unless you eat my body (which is REAL FOOD and drink my blood which is REAL DRINK--you "cannot have eternal life"
For over 2000 years TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY has confirmed, varified and authenticated the above TRUTHS over and over and over again---and you 21st modernistic "personal opinionated" editorialist bible interpreter "fundies" have "rejected these biblical and historical PROVEN TRUTHS----by spread distortions, lies and deceit regarding these TRUTHS---- to your own demise and destruction.
third try...

Hogwash....

Show me where I have distorted, manipulated and twisted the truth in the Bible regards the church Christ built....I do not see one word I said in your post!!!!!

You are nothing but a bag of hot air!!!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#472352 Aug 21, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Your position is as ignorant as your assumption that I and everyone else is a 'catlick'. FYI I am a member of a Southern Baptist Church. I am done trying to reason with you. You are only interested in argueing, I am not.
Not arguing...stating facts: The Holy Trinity is three....not one...!!!!
As pointed out...you are in a heavy fog....I can be equal to Mike Tyson....but that does not mean I am Mike....it does mean whatever Mike can do...so can I...
Am still waiting to see you express the Holy Trinity with Christ being God and God being Christ...Is there a problem????

BTW: Do not you believe this teaching: Christ is the eternal Son of God. In His incarnation as Jesus Christ He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus perfectly revealed and did the will of God, taking upon Himself human nature with its demands and necessities and identifying Himself completely with mankind yet without sin.

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