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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670552 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472177 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Hitler was also a "self" who no doubt was honest in his belief that his self was on the right path and others needed to be led by him.
Please post your citation to this claim.

And what does this have to do with the title of the forum.

You aren't staying focused again.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472178 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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chris·ti·an·i·ty
Noun
1.The religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.
Then why is "Paul" the major player being used?

That's right - Christianity isn't faithful to its own definition.

"Paulicity" would be better suited to describe modern day Christianity.
LTM

Sutton, Canada

#472179 Aug 20, 2013
This Evening's Meditation

C. H. Spurgeon

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"And they fortified Jerusalem unto the broad wall."—Nehemiah 3:8.

ITIES well fortified have broad walls, and so had Jerusalem in her glory. The New Jerusalem must, in like manner, be surrounded and preserved by a broad wall of nonconformity to the world, and separation from its customs and spirit. The tendency of these days break down the holy barrier, and make the distinction between the church and the world merely nominal. Professors are no longer strict and Puritanical, questionable literature is read on all hands, frivolous pastimes are currently indulged, and a general laxity threatens to deprive the Lord's peculiar people of those sacred singularities which separate them from sinners. It will be an ill day for the church and the world when the proposed amalgamation shall be complete, and the sons of God and the daughters of men shall be as one: then shall another deluge of wrath be ushered in. Beloved reader, be it your aim in heart, in word, in dress, in action to maintain the broad wall, remembering that the friendship of this world is enmity against God.
The broad wall afforded a pleasant place of resort for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, from which they could command prospects of the surrounding country. This reminds us of the Lord's exceeding broad commandments, in which we walk at liberty in communion with Jesus, overlooking the scenes of earth, and looking out towards the glories of heaven. Separated from the world, and denying ourselves all ungodliness and fleshly lusts, we are nevertheless not in prison, nor restricted within narrow bounds; nay, we walk at liberty, because we keep His precepts. Come, reader, this evening walk with God in His statutes. As friend met friend upon the city wall, so meet thou thy God in the way of holy prayer and meditation. The bulwarks of salvation thou hast a right to traverse, for thou art a freeman of the royal burgh, a citizen of the metropolis of the universe.
LTM

Sutton, Canada

#472180 Aug 20, 2013
20

2013

“Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers.” Psalm 1:1

Do you remember how old-time TV shows used to have an applause meter to gauge audience reactions? A big arrow would spin around the dial to show how enthusiastic the crowd was—or wasn’t—about what had just happened onstage. It wasn’t particularly scientific, but it provided quick feedback!

When I think about how we feel about God’s rules, I wonder if heaven has one of those meters. Well, not really, but there is one in your heart that God can read, so let’s talk about it. The arrow on your heart meter reflects your honest, instinctive response to God’s Word and His laws. Across the dial are five attitudes that, at any given moment, reflect how you really react to God’s rules for you.

All the way on the left side of the dial is the word disdain. Ever feel like God’s rules are oppressive, restrictive barriers to your pleasure and dreadfully outdated? Then the arrow might just be buried in the low end of the meter of your heart.

Next up on the dial is the word doubt. Those of us who wonder if God’s rules are good and for our best will register in the doubt category. But, be warned, Satan’s oldest tactic for plunging lives into shame and isolation from a loving God was planting seeds of doubt about the goodness of God and His Word (Genesis 3:1). Surprisingly, the tactic still works—fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!

At the center of the dial is duty. Is obedience to God’s laws a legalistic obligation for you? Something that you have to do since you are a Christian with a virtual score sheet of do’s and don’ts that help you keep track of how you’re doing? If you are externally conformed, but your heart is far from Him and His laws feel heavy with the only reward being the ugly sin of pride in your own goodness, then you’re a dutiful but dull law keeper.

Further to the right, the arrow moves to the word devotion. This is closer to where God wants us to be. Those of us who land here obey God’s rules out of our love for Him. And while there is nothing wrong with that and much to be commended for it, there is still another point on the pleasing God meter that the psalmist urges us to qualify for.

Which explains why David cranks the arrow on the meter all the way over to the farthest extreme: delight. He writes that the truly blessed person delights in the law of the Lord!

What does that mean? Well, the Hebrew term used here actually means to be “emotionally preoccupied with.” It’s kind of like being in love. It’s all that you can think about. Other thoughts and conversations get drowned out by your overwhelming preoccupation. Imagine what our lives would look like if we truly became emotionally preoccupied with the profound goodness of God’s rules.

So, what would it take to move the arrow of your meter to the delight position? Try spending time reflecting on the character of the Lawgiver. You have a Father who loves you, who wants to protect you, and who offers His rules as His loving way to keep you safe and offer you true freedom from Satan’s deceitful and destructive ways. And, when you obey His rules and experience the peace, joy, and cleansing that it brings to your life, you’ll delight with the psalmist who wrote that God’s rules are “sweeter than honey to my mouth”(Psalm 119:103)!

Take a meter reading today, and bury the needle deep in the “delight” end of the meter. When you do, heaven’s applause meter may just go off the charts because of your love for His law!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472181 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If I learn to believe as a Gnostic, will I then be brilliant ... as you picture your adorable SELF?
:)
Incorrect conclusion.

If you learn to believe as a Gnostic, you will have learned some knowledge that Christianity or your life didn't teach you.

Stop being so dramatic in your old age. It's not very becoming.
LTM

Sutton, Canada

#472182 Aug 20, 2013
YOUR JOURNEY…
•Honesty time: How would you characterize your attitude toward God’s law—disdain, doubt, duty, devotion, or delight?
•What changes in your thinking might help move the arrow on your meter further to the right?
•Think of one or two laws of God that you can delight in because you see how they are lovingly in place for your protection. Spend some time thanking God for those laws and delight in them today. It’s a great start!

Categories: Attributes, Basics Of Faith, Faithfulness, God, Love For, Obedience, Relating To God, Relationships, Submission

Tags: attributes, Faithfulness, Love For, Obedience, submission

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#472183 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If I learn to believe as a Gnostic, will I then be brilliant ... as you picture your adorable SELF?
:)
Not being a gnostic I would not know.

But I don't need to be a gnostic to realize you're really messed up.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472184 Aug 20, 2013
Father Guido Benenati ... explains the afterlife ... comedy.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0AKvRvL5r3A...

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472185 Aug 20, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Not being a gnostic I would not know.
But I don't need to be a gnostic to realize you're really messed up.
Religion messed me up ... but at least your Gnosticism can't be blamed for the mess ... as I never dabbled in Gnosticism.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472186 Aug 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Incorrect conclusion.
If you learn to believe as a Gnostic, you will have learned some knowledge that Christianity or your life didn't teach you.
Stop being so dramatic in your old age. It's not very becoming.
Would it be YOUR branch of Gnosticism that you would like to lead me to in order to find my self ... which of course would be a duplicate of your self???

:)

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472187 Aug 20, 2013
LTM wrote:
YOUR JOURNEY…
•Honesty time: How would you characterize your attitude toward God’s law—disdain, doubt, duty, devotion, or delight?
If we were you, we would be focused on our own salvation and be bubbling over with joy ... and to hell with others who can't follow us on the one and only righteous path to a bliss-filled eternity.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472188 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Would it be YOUR branch of Gnosticism that you would like to lead me to in order to find my self ... which of course would be a duplicate of your self???
:)
There you go again, confusing what you want things to mean, and what they actually mean.

I can't lead you anywhere. You seem to have a hard time understanding this.

Keep practicing, it will eventually sink in.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#472189 Aug 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Religion messed me up ... but at least your Gnosticism can't be blamed for the mess ... as I never dabbled in Gnosticism.
No it didn't.

Take responsibility for yourself.

You're messed up, dishonest (as your continuing references to my gnosticism shows), and not too bright.

You may have been born with limited intellect, but the rest is your responsibility.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472190 Aug 20, 2013
"Which Roman emperor would persecute anyone for reading the Gospel of Thomas [since it so closely reflected Greek thinking]?....It should be clear that the talk about a spiritual ‘resurrection’ in the sense used by [the gnostic writings] could not be anything other than a late, drastic modification of Christian language." (Resurrection, p.550.)

http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/article...

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472191 Aug 20, 2013
The Da Vinci Code and Misogyny

The story lifts up the Gnostic gospels as the "truth" and depicts the church as a repressive regime that wants to hide the importance of Mary Magdalene as one of the early disciples. This gives the impression that the gnostic gospels are more pro-women than the Bible or traditional theology.

But the last saying in the Gospel of Thomas is far more misogynist than anything found in the Bible. Simon Peter said to them: Let Mary go forth from among us, for women are not worthy of the life. Jesus said: Behold, I shall lead her, that I may make her male, in order that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who makes herself male shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.(Thomas-114) This saying reflects the low view of women in the Gnostic philosophy. It is ironic that the author of the Da Vinci Code thinks the Gnostic- Jesus was friendlier to women.

http://www.examiner.com/article/do-gnostics-b...

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472192 Aug 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<I can't lead you anywhere. You seem to have a hard time understanding this.
You would be thrilled if others would become Gnostics as are you ... but I for one won't allow you to control my ability to think on my own.

Others might follow your jargon as being based on truth ... but it won't be me.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472193 Aug 20, 2013
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
The Bible teaches it is the only authority on God's Word...no other source is needed...such as:TRUE Apostolic Church History books...Church Historian writers (including Apologist History authors and writers.....
You Ox are "perfect example" of a bible only "fundie" that twists, manipulates, and perverts the true meaning and true interpretation of bible verses to mean ONLY WHAT "YOU" WANT THEM TO MEAN (by inserting your own distorted and warped OPINION---and ALL this to your own "demise and destruction"!.....In others words, Ox, you are a 21st century bible verse interpreting "hack"!....NO WHERE in the bible does Jesus, Paul or ANY of the Apostles say that the bible is the ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH.......In fact, Paul says JUST THE OPPOSITE in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible) the Pillar, Pinnacle and Foundation of the TRUTH....Paul also tells us in 2 Thess 2:15 "and so then brothers, stand FIRM and hold FAST to the TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether by word of mouth ORAL or by the letter, WRITTEN from us!....ANYONE who has studied, researched, investigated and carefully examined the writings------- KNOWS THE TRUTH----and that TRUTH has been proven and verified (over and over again) from over 2000 years of the writings from Highly accredited and learned Apostolic Church Historian authors as well as Apologetic History Literary Works writers (from both Catholic and Protestant)---You can't even get your own Protestant "fundies" to agree with you!!!! I've seen their responses to the BS that you send out!!!-Go Send your editorialized (distorted bible interpretation) rif-raf to the National Inquirer because it would "neatly fit in" to their editorial "opinion section" along with their other "trash articles"!!!!

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#472194 Aug 20, 2013
The Da Vinci Code seems to have hints of early strains of Buddhism.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following……….

700—401 B.C.

Religion

Few men become arhats, and even fewer women; the only higher level is the achievement of nirvana (the end of the cycle of suffering caused by continual reincarnation), and it is believed in the Buddha’s day that women are incapable of achieving nirvana at all. They must be content with being as holy as possible in the hope of being reborn as men—and then they can reach nirvana. The Buddha only permits women to join his sangha (monastic order), only shortly before his death.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#472195 Aug 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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What other sources does "God" approve as "His authority", besides the Bible?
Gods authority for TRUTH resides in BOTH the Bible AND Tradition!
Sacred Tradition whether oral or written comes from Jesus Christ HIMSELF. It's the full, living gift of Christ to the Apostles, faithfully handed down, as taught in the Early Churches (beginning with Antioch, as the "oral (unwritten) tradition and down through each generation. It is through Tradition that the Holy Spirit makes the Risen Lord present among us, offering us the very same saving Word and Sacraments that he gave to the Apostles! The bible itself, "is Tradition" (the historical "written tradition"!

Understanding Tradition is essential to understanding the Catholic Church and the Catholic Christian faith.

Tradition is "handed down"

The word "tradition" actually means handing down something to another person.

Scripture testifies to this meaning of Catholic Tradition as the normal mode of transmitting the Faith:

"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter." (2 Thess 2:15)

"For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you...." (1 Cor 11:23)

"For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received...." (1 Cor 15:3)

"...I know whom I have believed [i.e., Jesus], and I am sure that he is able to guard until that Day what has been entrusted to me. Follow the pattern of the sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus; guard the truth that has been entrusted to you by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us." (2 Tim 1:11-14)

"You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also." (2 Tim 2:1-2)

"...I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." (Jude 1:3)

The Bible teaches us that Scripture is the Word of God, but it also teaches that the Apostolic Tradition is Gods word, as well. The Apostolic tradition is the "oral teaching" of Jesus Christ that He handed on to His Apostles and the teachings of the Apostles was dictated to them by the Holy Spirit! Pauls teachings to the Thessalonians (in 2 Thess 2:13, clearly tells that that the word of God comes to them (and us) "orally" as well as "written"!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#472196 Aug 20, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You Ox are "perfect example" of a bible only "fundie" that twists, manipulates, and perverts the true meaning and true interpretation of bible verses to mean ONLY WHAT "YOU" WANT THEM TO MEAN (by inserting your own distorted and warped OPINION---and ALL this to your own "demise and destruction"!.....In others words, Ox, you are a 21st century bible verse interpreting "hack"!....NO WHERE in the bible does Jesus, Paul or ANY of the Apostles say that the bible is the ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH.......In fact, Paul says JUST THE OPPOSITE in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible) the Pillar, Pinnacle and Foundation of the TRUTH....Paul also tells us in 2 Thess 2:15 "and so then brothers, stand FIRM and hold FAST to the TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether by word of mouth ORAL or by the letter, WRITTEN from us!....ANYONE who has studied, researched, investigated and carefully examined the writings------- KNOWS THE TRUTH----and that TRUTH has been proven and verified (over and over again) from over 2000 years of the writings from Highly accredited and learned Apostolic Church Historian authors as well as Apologetic History Literary Works writers (from both Catholic and Protestant)---You can't even get your own Protestant "fundies" to agree with you!!!! I've seen their responses to the BS that you send out!!!-Go Send your editorialized (distorted bible interpretation) rif-raf to the National Inquirer because it would "neatly fit in" to their editorial "opinion section" along with their other "trash articles"!!!!
I have proven over and over, from Scripture, that your babbling is nothing but utter senseless baseless stupidity....

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