Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#467515 Jul 31, 2013
SherylReal wrote:
<quoted text>
er..cough..cough! Cause God said He was going to destroy it. Ever read Revelation?
You think God literally dwells on some mountain top?
"This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?"
Library of Date setters for end of the world!

44
Theudas declared himself the Messiah, taking 400 people with him into the desert. T beheaded by Roman soldiers. Josephus records this.

53
Even before all the books of the Bible were written, there was talk that Christ's return had already taken place. The Thessalonians panicked on Paul, when they heard a rumor that the day of the Lord was at hand, and they had missed the rapture.

80
Ben Zakkai died about 80, and expected the Messiah about the time of his death

100 -200
Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus (1-2 Cent) thought the days of the Messiah would last 40 years. Before Bar Kochba the Mess. age was short; longer afterward

130
Rabbi Jose, the Galilean, a contemporary of Hyrcanus and Azariah, thought the Messiah would come in three generations (60 years), after the destruction; namely 130 (Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994)

381
Return of Christ; Tichonus a writer of the 4th Cent (Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994)

400
Hippolytus "calculated that 5,500 years separated Adam and Christ and that the life of the world was 6,000 six full 'days' of years until the seventh the day of rest." His calculations in 234 indicted there were still two centuries left.(from A History of the End of the World, Rubinsky and Wiseman, 1982)

400
Rabbi Dosa (2-3rd Century) said the Messiah would come at the end of 400 years. This was based (?) on Gen. 15:13 (Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994)

435
Messiah comes; Rabbi Judah ha-Nasi (135-220) believed Messiah would come 365 years after Temple destroyed in 70 (Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994)

470
Messiah would come; Rabbi Hanina (3rd C), though Messiah would come 400 years after Temple Destruction.(Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994)

http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

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Since: Apr 07

Baltimore

#467516 Jul 31, 2013
SherylReal wrote:
<quoted text>
er..cough..cough! Cause God said He was going to destroy it. Ever read Revelation?
You think God literally dwells on some mountain top?
"This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?"
Library of Date setters for end of the world!
http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

950

Acrostic on the end of the world, predecessor of Celano's "Dies irae," found in a ms. from Aniane

950
"Treatise on the Antichrist" by Adso of Montier-en-Der, c.950, a response to a variety of crises at mid-century that provoked widespread apocalyptic disquiet, and rapidly become a central text in the European eschatological literature (ed. by Verhelst, CCSL, Cont. med. aeui 40; study in the context of 1000, by Verhelst, "Adso van Montier-en-Der en de angst voor het jaar Duizend," Tijdschrift voor Geschiedenis, 90 (1977), 1-10); and C. Carozzi, La fin des temps: Terreurs et prophties au Moyen Age (Paris: Stock, 1982), pp.186-94. See below #.

950-80:
Letter on the Hungarians that speaks of widespread apocalyptic reactions among the population,

950
In A.D. 950 Adso of Montier-en-Der wrote a "Treatise on the Antichrist" which was a response to a number of mid-century crises that had provoked widespread alarm and fear of an end-time apocalypse. Five years later, Abbo of Fleury heard a preacher in Paris who announced that the Antichrist would be unleashed in the year 1000 and that the Last Judgment would soon follow. At about the same time a panic occurred in the German army of Emperor Otto I because of a solar eclipse that the soldiers mistook as a sign of the end of the world. And when the last Carolingian dynasty fell with the death of King Louis V in 987, many saw this event as a precursor to the arrival of the Antichrist. King Otto II of Germany had Charlemagne's body exhumed on Pentecost in the year 1000 supposedly in order to forestall the apocalypse. Both Halley's comet in A.D. 989 and a super nova in A.D. 1006 were interpreted as signs of the end. About the same time, the Moslem caliph, Al Hakim, destroyed the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem prompting apocalyptic fear in the west as well as violent anti-Jewish outbursts.

964:
"Dum saeculum transit finis mundi appropinquat..." [As the saeculum (century?) passes, the end of the world approaches.] Cartulaire de Saint-Jouin-de-Marnes, pp.1, 11, 17.

965:
Abbo hears a preacher in Paris announcing the unleashing of Antichrist for 1000 AD and the Last Judgment for shortly thereafter

968:
Panic in Otto's army at an eclipse the soldiers took to portend the end of the world (Gesta episcoporum Leodensium, MGH SS IX, p.202).

968-9:
Annalists note in the margin of Easter tables:&#12288;mille anni a nativitate Christi, based on a "misreading" of the base year in the Easter Tables as Anno passionis. Three years earlier unusual events with apocalyptic tonality (fire from heaven, release of demons) occur.

983-4:
Abbo redates the year 1000 four years into the past (true AD 1000 = Dionysus' 979) using the apocalyptic beliefs above

987-91:
The last Carolingian dynasty (the final hindrance to the arrival of Antichrist according to Adso) falls; the capture of the last potential ruler occurs under most dastardly cirumstances. Southern charters begin to date AD, with Christ reigning, a traditional interregnal formula with apocalyptic antecedants (Kantarowicz, The King's Two Bodies, p.).

989, August:
Halley's Comet appears, cited in Annales divionenses, MGH SS V, p. ; and Annales Quedlinburgenses MGH SS III, p.68; Thietmar of Mersebourg, Chronicon IV, 10; (also Glaber III, 3? acc. to France, p.110-11, and n.4, but see below under 1006,#29); P. Moore and J. Mason, The Return of Halley's Comet (Cambridge, 1984), p.46)

Shall I list the rest?
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#467517 Jul 31, 2013
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ISRAEL to give POPE "Custody" of Temple Mount --

http://youtu.be/Qt9kEQB4ti8


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Clay

United States

#467518 Jul 31, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Professional cover-up liar who headed the Roman Catholic clowns....
Joseph Ratzinger or as the Roman Catholic affectionately call him....
Pope Benedict XVI
The molestation promoter and criminal who allowed the rape of little boys.
THE LEADER OF THE "ROMAN CATHOLIC CLOWNS"
Statements like this one above, remind me that I'm in the right Church.
I see how you guys blow up this topic and use biased non- credible slander in order trash the Catholic Church. I see how the Media always takes an ALLEGED incident and throws it on the front page because they know bigots like you are waiting to gobble it up and spread it around the world as fact.
As a Catholic- being in the very Church that Jesus Christ started- I expect nothing less than this sorta treatment.
Our Lord forewarned us:
"Remember what I have told you,'a servant is not greater than his master'. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you"

Dealing with slander, deception and hate-filled propaganda comes with the territory of being Catholic. We embrace the challenge of dealing with it, because it brings us that much closer to the Lord.

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Since: Apr 07

Baltimore

#467519 Jul 31, 2013
I posted on many threads KY has a civil union law. That Was wrong.
endtimes

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#467520 Jul 31, 2013
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VATICAN- ISRAEL Talks setting up 7 YR TRIBULATION

http://youtu.be/Qt9kEQB4ti8

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#467521 Jul 31, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I wonder if this little girl cried out to "God" when she was being abused sexually.
Do you think "God" just ignored her? Or maybe you think "God" didn't ignore her, but wanted her to learn a lesson.
What do you think "God" was doing during this horrendous 24 hour period.
We already have proof "God" didn't show up to help the girl.
So what say you?
http://www.examiner.com/article/more-than-a-d ...
.....in a more truthful manner - you probably won't answer this post at all. If you do, it will be some twist and turn, huh?
Let's see how honest you can be here GiF....
<quoted text>
Yes GiF - there were questions in my post. And "If" is considered a starting word for a question.
Just as I thought......you chose poorly.
*sighs*
Always blaming others, but never "God".
And you think your 60+ years of helping others would've given me a better answer.
*sighs*
~~~

Where was the devil

(THE ONE THAT IS EVIDENTLY YOUR LORD

ELSE YOU WOULD NOT BE ACCUSING GOD)

when the young Girl was being raped.

Why no ask Him. ARE NOT ON SPEAKING TERM WITH HIM?

Jesus DESCRIBED his ATTRIBUTES.

Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Sorry that you live in such a darkened atmosphere that you would accuse God...

Jesus gave His life ( THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE) on a horrific cross

that ...those that raped her ..could have ..received his salvation an

COULD...have been honorable men of integrity

and would have never thought about such a crime... let alone committed it.

(BUT LIKE YOURSELF THEY REFUSED)

WHAT MORE DO/COULD YOU EXPECT OF GOD?

Isa_40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

OF IGNORANCE IS BLISS YOU ARE BLISTERED...

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#467522 Jul 31, 2013
just choose life wrote:
<quoted text>Well...remember the post with playa on the abortion forum where you said showing a thirteen year old a pornographic mag was okay? and that he/she would probably forget about it in the future? And the parent who shown this filthy mag to a thirteen year old was a great parent?
Knit snd pray ..persnickety...razzmatazz..or whatever name youare using today.

I asked you very nicely considering the personal insults
To myself and family ..which were pulled off here.

PLEASE do not post to me..for the third time now.

This one is slander as I DID NO SUCH THING . I had conversations with my own child ..in my own way in my own home with my daughter ...which I would hope everyone on this forum did likewise..

I NEVER told any poster to show her teenage children anything 10 years,ago ...
You are slandering not only me..but another person .

By equating her to pedophile priests entrusted with the care of little children grade school children.

and dragging posts all over the net about other people is rude .when they do not even post here is nit very nice

if YOU or anyone want to tell someone they are wrong tell them yourself. Knit..persnickety .

Im not ..nor do I wish to be your personal police officer on other posters .

And dragging posts like your other one all over the net ...out of context is childish ..imo

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#467523 Jul 31, 2013
Having made so many typo's in my former post I am going to send again.. attempting to correct them..

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I wonder if this little girl cried out to "God" when she was being abused sexually.
Do you think "God" just ignored her? Or maybe you think "God" didn't ignore her, but wanted her to learn a lesson.
What do you think "God" was doing during this horrendous 24 hour period.
We already have proof "God" didn't show up to help the girl.
So what say you?
http://www.examiner.com/article/more-than-a-d ...
.....in a more truthful manner - you probably won't answer this post at all. If you do, it will be some twist and turn, huh?
Let's see how honest you can be here GiF....
<quoted text>
Yes GiF - there were questions in my post. And "If" is considered a starting word for a question.
Just as I thought......you chose poorly.
*sighs*
Always blaming others, but never "God".
And you think your 60+ years of helping others would've given me a better answer.
*sighs*

~~~

Where was the devil

(THE ONE THAT IS EVIDENTLY YOUR LORD

ELSE YOU WOULD NOT BE ACCUSING GOD)

when the young Girl was being raped.

Why not ask Him.

ARE YOU NOT ON SPEAKING TERMS WITH HIM?

Jesus DESCRIBED his ATTRIBUTES.

Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Sorry that you live in such a darkened atmosphere that you would accuse God...

Jesus gave His life ( THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE) on a

horrific cross that ...those that raped her ..

could have ..received his salvation an

COULD...have been honorable men of integrity

and would have never thought about such a crime...

let alone committed it.

(BUT LIKE YOURSELF THEY REFUSED)

WHAT MORE DO YOU/COULD YOU, EXPECT OF GOD?

Isa_40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

IF IGNORANCE IS BLISS YOU ARE BLISTERED...

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#467524 Jul 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Statements like this one above, remind me that I'm in the right Church.
I see how you guys blow up this topic and use biased non- credible slander in order trash the Catholic Church. I see how the Media always takes an ALLEGED incident and throws it on the front page because they know bigots like you are waiting to gobble it up and spread it around the world as fact.
As a Catholic- being in the very Church that Jesus Christ started- I expect nothing less than this sorta treatment.
Our Lord forewarned us:
"Remember what I have told you,'a servant is not greater than his master'. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you"
Dealing with slander, deception and hate-filled propaganda comes with the territory of being Catholic. We embrace the challenge of dealing with it, because it brings us that much closer to the Lord.
Just a spoon full of hubris helps the martyrdom go down...in the most delightful way....
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#467525 Jul 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Statements like this one above, remind me that I'm in the right Church.
I see how you guys blow up this topic and use biased non- credible slander in order trash the Catholic Church. I see how the Media always takes an ALLEGED incident and throws it on the front page because they know bigots like you are waiting to gobble it up and spread it around the world as fact.
As a Catholic- being in the very Church that Jesus Christ started- I expect nothing less than this sorta treatment.
Our Lord forewarned us:
"Remember what I have told you,'a servant is not greater than his master'. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you"
Dealing with slander, deception and hate-filled propaganda comes with the territory of being Catholic. We embrace the challenge of dealing wi

th it, because it brings us that much closer to the Lord.
Pope Bendedict Gay?? Nah! Pope's secret boyfriend!

The church has made fools of you and all other followers with behind the scenes sins! Clay Just keep giving if it makes you happy, but in reality it means nothing at all! Wake up and smell the coffee.

http://www.towleroad.com/2013/02/pope-to-live...

http://www.policymic.com/articles/27254/pope-...
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#467526 Jul 31, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Having made so many typo's in my former post I am going to send again.. attempting to correct them..
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I wonder if this little girl cried out to "God" when she was being abused sexually.
Do you think "God" just ignored her? Or maybe you think "God" didn't ignore her, but wanted her to learn a lesson.
What do you think "God" was doing during this horrendous 24 hour period.
We already have proof "God" didn't show up to help the girl.
So what say you?
http://www.examiner.com/article/more-than-a-d ...
.....in a more truthful manner - you probably won't answer this post at all. If you do, it will be some twist and turn, huh?
Let's see how honest you can be here GiF....
<quoted text>
Yes GiF - there were questions in my post. And "If" is considered a starting word for a question.
Just as I thought......you chose poorly.
*sighs*
Always blaming others, but never "God".
And you think your 60+ years of helping others would've given me a better answer.
*sighs*
~~~
Where was the devil
(THE ONE THAT IS EVIDENTLY YOUR LORD
ELSE YOU WOULD NOT BE ACCUSING GOD)
when the young Girl was being raped.
Why not ask Him.
ARE YOU NOT ON SPEAKING TERMS WITH HIM?
Jesus DESCRIBED his ATTRIBUTES.
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Sorry that you live in such a darkened atmosphere that you would accuse God...
Jesus gave His life ( THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE) on a
horrific cross that ...those that raped her ..
could have ..received his salvation an
COULD...have been honorable men of integrity
and would have never thought about such a crime...
let alone committed it.
(BUT LIKE YOURSELF THEY REFUSED)
WHAT MORE DO YOU/COULD YOU, EXPECT OF GOD?
Isa_40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.
IF IGNORANCE IS BLISS YOU ARE BLISTERED...
If you preach that God is the creator of all! Then God created the devil too. What a condundrum.

You believe only because you fear the end is near for you. Thats sad!

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467527 Jul 31, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Professional cover-up liar who headed the Roman Catholic clowns....
Joseph Ratzinger or as the Roman Catholic affectionately call him....
Pope Benedict XVI
The molestation promoter and criminal who allowed the rape of little boys.
THE LEADER OF THE "ROMAN CATHOLIC CLOWNS"
Both Protestant and Catholic member of clergy covered up and still cover up their molestations of children.

Unless you take ownership of the harm caused by your own group, you can't be honest with your self in the idea that humans are all mortal animals ... not the stuff of holiness ... which is based on myth and nothing BUT myth.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467528 Jul 31, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Where was the devil
(THE ONE THAT IS EVIDENTLY YOUR LORD
ELSE YOU WOULD NOT BE ACCUSING GOD)
when the young Girl was being raped.
Why no ask Him. ARE NOT ON SPEAKING TERM WITH HIM?
Jesus DESCRIBED his ATTRIBUTES.
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Sorry that you live in such a darkened atmosphere that you would accuse God...
Jesus gave His life ( THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE) on a horrific cross
that ...those that raped her ..could have ..received his salvation an
COULD...have been honorable men of integrity
and would have never thought about such a crime... let alone committed it.
(BUT LIKE YOURSELF THEY REFUSED)
WHAT MORE DO/COULD YOU EXPECT OF GOD?
Isa_40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.
OF IGNORANCE IS BLISS YOU ARE BLISTERED...
Putting the blame on the "devil" still doesn't resolve why "God" didn't get involved.

Unless you think that "God" is not as powerful as the "devil". Do you?

GiF - your redirection of blame is a comman tactic with so-called "Christians". Always thinking that "God" is great and good, yet, for some reason, "He" won't step into the mix to stop all that is bad or evil from even happening, and because of this, "Christians" then place the blame squarely upon another unproven entity, just because you can't fathom, that your "God" can't do anything.

Yep - you must think the "devil" is more powerful.

It's got to be, as there is no otehr explanation I can think of.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467529 Jul 31, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Te following scripture is the reason that Christ went to hell aka the grave to offer salvation to all that had lived up until the time that He died.
I suggest you study the first creed and you will see there is no mention of Jesus going to hell.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

From the The Lost Book of the Bibles, by Bell Publishing, New York, comes the following.

The Apostles Creed as it stood An. Dom. 600. Copied from Mr. Justice Baileys Edition of the book of Common Prayer.before the year 6oo, it was no more than thisMr. Justice Bailey. P. 9 n.

I Believe in God the Father Almighty:
2 And in Jesus Christ his only begotten Son, our Lord;
3 Who was born of the Holy Ghost and Virgin Mary,

4 And was crucified under Pontuis Pilate, and was buried;
5 And the third day rose again from the dead.
6 Ascended into heaven, sitteth on the right hand of the Father;
7 Whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead;

8 And in the Holy Ghost;

9 The Holy Church;
10 The remission of sins;

11 And the resurrection of the flesh, Amen.

The Apostles Creed, as it stands in the book of Common Prayer of the United Church of England and Ireland as by law established.

1 I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth:
2 And in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord:
3 Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary,
4 Suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead and buried;
5 He descended into hell;

6 The third day he rose again from the dead;
7 He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
8 From whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
9 I believe in the Holy Ghost;
10 The Holy Catholic Church; the communion of saints;
12 The resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#467530 Jul 31, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Rose is a good person.If she believes the Vatican must have known,this is no reason to call her names or belittle and verbally abuse her.If you do not believe that that sexual abuse was known higher than on the priest level than your hypothesis would contradict what we know about this phenomenon.And if I were you I would leave my wife and me alone.
You two have an agenda like the other protestants here. I like Rose, I don't call her names, but she speaks from her emotions, not fact. I KNOW the abuse was known at higher levels. What you and the other protestants DON'T KNOW is how this type of sin is handled and what the bishops are responsible for. The bad bishops (yes, there are some, Law and Weakland for example) thought more about their and the Church's reputation than about the suffering of these poor children. I'll give you some good advice...stay out of this because you don't know what you're talking about.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467531 Jul 31, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
The pope says 'he doesn't judge', so i assume nobody in that church does, very sad scarry answer but true it seems.
If humans didn't judge, humans wouldn't "think."

You judge that you know you will be saved and others will go to hell.

That is called judging.

I judge that religion is bunk ... that is called judging.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#467532 Jul 31, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
If you preach that God is the creator of all! Then God created the devil too. What a condundrum.
You believe only because you fear the end is near for you. Thats sad!
THE ULTIMATE SADNESS..IS

That you are willing to gamble your soul...

IF I AM WRONG.... I HAVE LOST NOTHING.

IF YOU ARE WRONG....AND THE BIBLE IS TRUE.... YOU WILL HAVE LOST IT ALL,

AND YOU WILL PAY ETERNALLY IN THE FLAMES OF HELL...

CONSIDER IT...

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467533 Jul 31, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL,LOL. Opps I posted the wrong link in my reply above. The following verses is why Christ descended into hell aka the grave to preach to the dead that were ther.
Hebrews 10:verses 4,9,10,11,12
If they were spending eternity in hell, why would he WANT to preach to them. Would he want to rub more salt in their open wounds???

Good Grief religion is stupid!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#467534 Jul 31, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Putting the blame on the "devil" still doesn't resolve why "God" didn't get involved.
Unless you think that "God" is not as powerful as the "devil". Do you?
GiF - your redirection of blame is a comman tactic with so-called "Christians". Always thinking that "God" is great and good, yet, for some reason, "He" won't step into the mix to stop all that is bad or evil from even happening, and because of this, "Christians" then place the blame squarely upon another unproven entity, just because you can't fathom, that your "God" can't do anything.
Yep - you must think the "devil" is more powerful.
It's got to be, as there is no otehr explanation I can think of.
~~~~

Mat_4:4 But he/JESUS answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Mat_4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


Mat_4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,

Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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