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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670153 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466460 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I was expressing my disinterest in discussing with you. Sure, you can comment to me, but then again, I can ignore someone who cares less about facts, evidence and truth. So beit
So you have facts, evidence and truth that the new testament was sponsored and supported by a Jew who even if he lived had been dead for well over three centuries.

You have words written by Catholics ... period

Nothing but arrogance would claim your myths are based on truth and other myths are based on lies.

To be FAIR you would have to admit that religion is ALL bunk!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466461 Jul 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
WHO SHOULD BE BAPTIZED? WHO IS THE PROPER CANDIDATE?
Only a saved person should be baptized. That means one who has believed on Jesus Christ and by faith has received Him as their personal Savior.
Acts 8:26-39, the Eunuch asked to be baptized. When the Eunuch desired to be baptized Philip said to him, "If thou believeth with all thine heart, thou mayest." The eunuch confessed he did believe and was then baptized. Note that in V38, they left the chariot and went down into the water and after the Eunuch was baptized by immersion they came up out of the water. Clearly this is baptism by immersion.(More will be said on that a little further)
If a lost person is baptized then it is a picture of a lie. If a lost person who has not believed in Jesus Christ and is baptized the symbolism is saying he is confessing he believes in Jesus Christ as his Savior when in fact he does not. No one should be baptized who does not have a clear testimony of believing in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.
The Biblical mode of Baptism is to be immersed. Sprinkling, pouring, etc. are not biblical modes of baptism. These practices do not picture the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. The Greek word is "baptizo" means to immerse and has no other meaning. When the Bible was being translated the translators were told to translate the word "baptizo "in a neutral way so as not to offend the Roman Catholics who sprinkled or the New Testament churches that immersed. So the translators compromised and transliterated the word baptizo into new English word "baptism." However, the Greek text is emphatic that the word means to immerse or dip into the water. Sprinkling IS NOT BAPTISM. God is very clear on this.
Any other mode of baptism makes light of the death and resurrection of Christ. Those that practice these false methods of baptism have not obeyed the first commandment of their professed Lord. God choose the method of baptism to be a picture of the Gospel the person who is being baptized is identifying himself with Christ.
Baptism is to be done in the name of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Matt. 28:19-20. In this passage, called the "Great Commission" Jesus commanded that believers were to go into the world and preach the Gospel and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Both the evangelism of the world and baptism were to be done in the name of the Trinity. Biblical baptisms are those that are done by true Bible believing assemblies that follow the New Testament as its sole rule and authority for its faith and practice. God has not given any church or individual the right to change what He put in place and instructed.
Gospel truth!!!! Undeniably true....

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466462 Jul 27, 2013
An empty tomb is not proof that a man named Jesus ever walked the earth.

Not one grave exists anywhere ... even of the supposed saint MARY ... mother of this supposed savior.

Not a grave of an apostle.

It's amazing where those carcasses all went, so that nothing can be dug up to check their "remains."

Myths HAVE no remains.

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466463 Jul 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Gospel truth!!!! Undeniably true....
Does that mean that YOU will spend eternity in hell for being a heretic???

:)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466464 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I quoted noted Everett Ferguson too, but who's counting?:)
Will this suffice, since you have not answered to it...yet?
In the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on the “sacrifice of the mass,” it says this:“Passing over the teaching of the Alexandrine Clement and Origen, whose love of allegory, together with the restrictions of the Disciplina Arcani [Latin term meaning discipline of the secret], involved their writings in mystic obscurity…”
Ummmm You were saying.....?
Info for Clay...

Everett Ferguson (born February 18, 1933) currently serves as Distinguished Scholar in Residence at Abilene Christian University in Abilene, Texas. He is author of numerous books on early Christian studies and served as co-editor of the Journal of Early Christian Studies.

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466465 Jul 27, 2013
It's too bad that those bragging Christians didn't bury some ordinary humans in the pretense that they were apostles.

DNA could date those bodies, and do such tests on them as to discredit the Christians as the liars that they were and are.

But the early Christians were smart enough to leave nothing but words behind to cause wars and right-fighting among those who LIVE for the excitement of such activities.

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466466 Jul 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
When Christ referred to His body as bread...He was speaking metaphorically...not in the literal sense...otherwise He would be teaching cannibalism....
The Lord's Supper is a symbolic act of obedience whereby members of the church, through partaking of the bread and the fruit of the vine, memorialize the death of the Redeemer and anticipate His second coming.
Matthew 3:13-17; 26:26-30; 28:19-20; Mark 1:9-11; 14:22-26; Luke 3:21-22; 22:19-20; John 3:23; Acts 2:41-42; 8:35-39; 16:30-33; 20:7; Romans 6:3-5; 1 Corinthians 10:16,21; 11:23-29; Colossians 2:12.
Thanks

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466467 Jul 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I read Clements full opinion on the Eucharist, and I do not believe he's denying the real presence.
.. In the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on the “sacrifice of the mass,” it says this:“Passing over the teaching of the Alexandrine Clement and Origen, whose love of allegory, together with the restrictions of the Disciplina Arcani [Latin term meaning discipline of the secret], involved their writings in mystic obscurity…”

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466468 Jul 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Gospel truth!!!! Undeniably true....
Why aren't you following the commands from your one and only god of THIS gospel truth???

WHY???

Is it because you are determined to believe that he only wanted us to love one another?
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Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466469 Jul 27, 2013
The god of the Jews (according to theology) created evil.

Who needs a devil, except to curse others as god-offenders for following the devil ... when the god his self created the very evil that he professes to hate.

You people thrive on such ignorance.

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466470 Jul 27, 2013
I wonder world-wide how many people were put to death by those in all the religions as heretics, infidels, or witches?

Anyone who offended the leaders of the cults were doomed.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#466471 Jul 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
A ROMAN MIRACLE
A pretty maid, a Protestant, was to a Roman Catholic wed; to love all Bible truths and tales, quite early she's been bred. It sorely grieved her husband's heart that she would not comply,
And join the Mother Church of Rome and heretics deny.
So day by day he flattered her, but still she saw no good would ever come from bowing down to idols made of wood. The Mass, the host, were made but to deceive; and transubstantiation, too, she never would believe.
He went to see his priest and told him his sad tale. "My wife is an unbeliever, sir; you can perhaps prevail; For all your Romish miracles my wife has strong aversion, To really work a miracle may lead to her conversion."
The priest went with the gentleman-he thought to gain a prize. He said, "I will convert her, sir, and open both her eyes." So when they came into the house, the husband loudly cried, "The priest has come to dine with us!" “He's welcome," she replied.
And when, at last. the meal was over, the priest at once began, to teach his hostess all about the sinful state of man. The greatness of our Savior's love, which Christians can't deny, to give Himself a sacrifice and for our sins to die.
"I will return tomorrow, lass, prepare some bread and wine, the sacramental miracle will stop your soul's decline." "I'll bake the bread," the lady said.“You may," he did reply, "And when you've seen this miracle, convinced you'll be, say I."
The priest did come accordingly, the bread and wine did bless. The lady asked,“Sir, is it changed?" The priest answered, "Yes. It's changed from common bread and wine to truly flesh and blood; Begorra, lass, this power of mine has changed it into God!"
So having blessed the bread and wine, to eat they did prepare. The lady said unto the priest.“I WARN YOU TO TAKE CARE, FOR HALF AN OUNCE OF ARSENIC WAS MIXED RIGHT IN THE BATTER, BUT SINCE YOU HAVE ITS NATURE CHANGED IT CANNOT REALLY MATTER."
The priest was struck real dumb-he looked as pale as death. The bread and wine fell from his hands and he began to gasp for breath. "Bring me my horse!" the priest cried, "This is a cursed home!" The lady replied,“Begone it is you who shares the curse of Rome."
The husband, too, he sat surprised, and not a word did say. At length he spoke,“My dear," said he,“the priest has run away, to gulp such mummery and tripe, I'm not for sure, quite able; I'll go with you and we'll renounce this Roman Catholic fable."
– Author unknown
Ummmmmm no comment

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466472 Jul 27, 2013
Oh how I wished that the Catholics had kept a body in that tomb of the supposed Jesus.

I would like them to explain how the man in the tomb had a DNA that was simply of a mortal man with no DNA whatsoever of a god.

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466473 Jul 27, 2013
Observe how the timelines suggested by modern science match up to the bishop's words advising the pope that the shroud was a fake.
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Din Timelines

World History Timelines

1389

x - A French bishop advised the Pope that the Shroud of Turin, that had materialized in the village of Lirey a generation earlier, was a fraud.
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Turin Shroud confirmed as a fake
June 21, 2005
by Richard Ingham

PARIS, June 21 (AFP)- A French magazine said on Tuesday it had carried out experiments that proved the Shroud of Turin, believed by some Christians to be their religion's holiest relic, was a fake.

In 1988, scientists carried out carbon-14 dating of the delicate linen cloth and concluded that the material was made some time between 1260 and 1390. Their study prompted the then archbishop of Turin, where the Shroud is stored, to admit that the garment was a hoax. But the debate sharply revived in January this year.

http://www.physorg.com/news4652.html
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#466474 Jul 27, 2013


RoSesz

Apparently, Benjamin Netanyahu gave an interview and was asked about
Israel's occupation of Arab lands. His response was 'It's our land.'
The reporter (CNN or the like) was stunned. Read below "It's our land"
It's important information since we don't get fair and accurate reporting from the media and facts tend to get lost in the jumble of daily events.

'Crash Course on the Arab Israeli Conflict.'

Here are overlooked facts in the current Middle East situation.
These were compiled by a Christian university professor.
BRIEF FACTS ON THE ISRAELI CONFLICT TODAY....It takes just 1.5 minutes to read!
It makes sense and it's not slanted. Jew and non-Jew -- it doesn't
matter.

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E. Two
thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a
Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E., the Jews have had dominion
over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the
land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E lasted no more
than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem
has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the
Jordanians occupied Jerusalem , they never sought to make it their
capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy
Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to
Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward
Jerusalem .

9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to
leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews.
Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10 The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab
brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to
be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is
estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the
Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of
the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee
group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own
peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel ,
a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict: The Arabs are represented by eight
separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one
Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost all five wars!.
Israel defended itself each time and won all five wars!

14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of
Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land,
autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews
were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council
resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429
were directed against Israel.

18. The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.

19. The U.N. Was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated
the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives .

cont

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#466475 Jul 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
How many popes have visited Israel? How many have visited Jerusalem?
John PAUL..Not sure of others..he also apologizes to them for teachings the Church did
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#466476 Jul 27, 2013
cont

20. The U.N. Was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like
a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be.
What will we tell our grandchildren we did when there was a turning point
in Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a difference?

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466477 Jul 27, 2013
Within the theology, if the god created good and evil, it would be only fair to the reader of the book to state on its cover "The Holy AND Evil bible.

That way it would be plain WHY the god commanded humans to kill each other ... because he was evil.

And it would plain to the readers, that reading the book could take the readers on both paths.

And that would in turn explain why Christian felt it necessary to kill others in the name of the one and only god.

Silly nonsense.
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Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466478 Jul 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
RoSesz
Apparently, Benjamin Netanyahu gave an interview and was asked about
Israel's occupation of Arab lands. His response was 'It's our land.'
They found that "confirmation" in their HOLY book! Where else do those in religion find "truth?" Sarcasm intended.

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466479 Jul 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
cont
20. The U.N. Was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like
a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be.
What will we tell our grandchildren we did when there was a turning point
in Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a difference?
Take sides and join in the fight. God wants you to fight. That's been the history of religion. Sarcasm intended.

Christians tortured and put Jews to death for centuries as Christ-killers. Now many Christians have found another meaning in their bibles ... that Jews must go back to their home-land before Christ will come again ... so they are now supporting the Jews to go back and take more and more land from the Arabs.

If a god had any part in knowing these details ahead of time and continued with his plan ... he should be shot with one good aim of a bullet through his invisible head.

Stupid beliefs.

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