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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658992 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465846 Jul 25, 2013
Page 1 of 2

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ROLE OF THE VIRGIN MARY

The worship of Mary, today acclaimed as an infallible dogma, was once condemned by the same 'infallible' Church as a deadly sin. Starting in the year 600, the church has made prayers to the virgin, queen of heaven a dogma.

She has been called Mother of God, Queen of Heaven, Refuge of Sinners, Gate of Heaven, Mother of Mercies, Ark of the Covenant, and Spouse of the Holy Ghost.

As we honor God by capitalizing words that refer to Him like (He, Him, His), some honor Mary in the same way by capitalizing pronouns such as (she and her).

A well-known publication, entitled The Glories of Mary, by of Alphonsus Liguori, now a canonized saint of the Church of Rome canonized in 1839 . It has been authoritatively declared by the Church of Rome that all the writings of Alphonsus Liguori contain "not one word worthy of censure".

THE GLORIES OF MARY
by Alphonsus de Liguori

In 1803 the Congregation of Rites stated that "In all the writings of Alfonso de Liguori there is not one word that can be justly found fault with."
Here is what Liguori believes and teaches:

EVEN CHRIST OWES A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO MARY
"Nothing resists your power, because the Creator of all honours you as his mother, making your glory his own. Mary owes her Son an infinite gratitude for choosing her for his mother; but it is not less true to say that Jesus Christ has contracted a species of obligation towards her for the human existence he received from her, and in recompense for this benefit he honors her by hearing her prayers."

SHE IS A SAVIOR AND MEDIATOR
"The way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary." In his book The Glories of Mary, Alphonsus de Liguori writes concerning Mary:
1. "she is truly made a mediatrix of peace between sinners and God."
2. Sinners receive pardon by Mary alone.
3. We shall be heard more quickly if we call on her holy name than we should if we called on the name of Jesus our Saviour.
4. The holy Church commands a worship peculiar to Mary.
5/ Mary is called the Gate of Heaven because no one can enter that blessed kingdom without passing through her.
5/ The way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary.

GOD OBEYS HER COMMANDS
Rome exalts Mary to such a degree that it holds that "all things, even God, obey the commands of Mary".

Rome considers Mary to be a far more powerful mediator than the Lord Jesus Christ: "Sometimes we shall be heard sooner by invoking the intercession of Mary than by praying to Jesus our Saviour" (page 209).

"I am fine, if my Redeemer cast me off on account of my sins, I will throw myself at the feet of His mother, Mary, and will remain prostrate before her, until she obtains my pardon" (page 183).

Rome exalts Mary to such a degree that it holds that "all things, even God, obey the commands of Mary" (page 265).

CHRIST THE ANGRY JUDGE, MARY THE PROTECTOR
The Lord Jesus is entirely ignored as the Advocate of - and Intercessor for - His people, these titles and offices being given to Mary.

Christ is represented as an angry Judge from whom Mary saves sinners; thus she is called "the only advocate of sinners" (page 190f.), and we are told (page 282) that

"her Son, the Judge of the world, cannot bring Himself to condemn the criminals whom she defends", and that (page 193) "when God is angry with a sinner whom Mary takes under her protection, she restrains her Son, that He may not inflict chastisement, and saves the sinner".
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465847 Jul 25, 2013
Page 2 of 2

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ROLE OF THE VIRGIN MARY

SALVATION THROUGH MARY
"Most holy Virgin, take us under your protection, for we have no other hope of salvation than through thee." (Page 257)

In Mary, then, the Romanists place all their hope. For they say (page 252) that "he who is protected by Mary is saved; he who is not protected by her is lost".

Thus Romanism is Marianism, and Rome teaches the same today. Even the Mass has been converted into Mary worship by the addition of prayers to her, and the prominence given to them. Pope Leo XIII outstripped his predecessors in this regard and was thus fittingly styled the 'Pope of the Rosary'. The Rosary consists of 166 beads, on which are recited one Creed, 15 Pater nosters and 150 Hail Mary's. Its recitation was said by Leo XIII to be "the most powerful and most pleasing" manner of "honouring" Mary. Every Pope today still issues an encyclical on "The Devotion of the Rosary", in which he preaches Mary-worship.
Again, the following idolatrous language is addressed to Mary by the same author:

"Nothing resists your power, because the Creator of all honours you as his mother, making your glory his own. Mary owes her Son an infinite gratitude for choosing her for his mother; but it is not less true to say that Jesus Christ has contracted a species of obligation towards her for the human existence he received from her, and in recompense for this benefit he honours her by hearing her prayers."

The same writer adopts the following blasphemous address to Mary:

"O great Queen, it is by you the miserable are saved; and because their salvation is your work, they shall form your crown in heaven."

MARY THE INTERCESSOR
"It is the opinion of many, and I hold the opinion to be true and indubitable, that all God's graces are dispensed through the hands of Mary, and that all the elect are brought to salvation through the divine mother. In conformity with this opinion, it may be said that the salvation of all depends on preaching devotion to Mary, and confidence in her intercession."
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465848 Jul 25, 2013
OldJG wrote:
My post to Cly came from gotquestions.org
Thank you, OldJG
I didn't look at your link. Im sorry, but usually they are written by some guy who likes to continue the Propaganda against the Church.

I do agree with your post, Mr. Old Johnathan Gregory, on the Holy Spirit.

You still refuse to acknowledge that the Holy Spirit is NOT guiding one of the two born again groups on this thread, due to process of elimination. ie one teaches Sola Fide. One does not. Both claim to be brought to Biblical truth by the Holy Spirit..
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465849 Jul 25, 2013
OldJG wrote:
ROMAN CATHOLIC..........
THE ROSARY: The devotion to Mary centers around daily prayers recited with a rosary. The string of beads helps to keep track of the prayers and acts required.
THE PRAYERS: 5 decades of the rosary include 1 Creed, 2 Our Father, 153 Hail Marys, 16 Glory be to the Father,(or 1 Glory be and 15 Fatima Decade Prayers), and 1 Hail Holy Queen. So there are 154 prayers said to Mary and 18 to God, but if you use the Fatima Decade prayers instead of the Glory be prayer then you have 2 prayers to God and 169 to Mary.
THE CRUCIFIX: While holding the crucifix make the Sign of the Cross and then recite the Apostles Creed.
THE FIRST 5 BEADS: Recite the Our Father on the first large bead. On each of the three small beads recite a Hail Mary for an increase of faith, hope and charity. Recite the Glory Be to the Father on the next large bead.
THE DECADE:(one large and ten small). Recall the first Rosary mystery and recite the Our Father on the next large bead.
For each of the fifteen Mysteries do the following as you reflect on the mystery: On each of the adjacent ten small beads (also referred to as a decade) recite a Hail Mary. On the next large bead, recite the "Glory Be to the Father" or "The Fatima decade prayer" (added in 2000).
When the fifth mystery is completed, the Rosary is customarily concluded with the Hail, Holy Queen.
.....and what a beautiful weapon the Rosary is in the reality of Spiritual Warfare!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#465850 Jul 25, 2013
Jesus said

Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:

for....

the 1.-->prince<--

of this

2.==> world<=== cometh, and

hath nothing in me.

1.-->PRINCE <-- defined in Greek as used in John 14:30

G758
&#945;&#787;&#769; &#961;&#967;&#969; &#957;
archo&#772;n
ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power):- chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.

2.==>WORLD<== defined in Greek...

G2889
&#954;&#959;&#769; &#963;&#956;&#959; &#962;
kosmos
kos'-mos
Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]):- adorning, world.

YOUR POPE ..THE UNIVERSAL PRINCE OF THIS WORLD

WHOM YOU CHURCH HAS SET UP AS THE UNIVERSAL PRINCE

HATH NOTHING IN JESUS CHRIST..

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#465851 Jul 25, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Herme:
I am drawn through the mystics, to the Truth....
To see through ritual is a grace.
I may be more Orthodox...(smiles) in my spirituality, than a RC.(Boy is that gonna make people wonder?) I see the need while on earth for a political center, but also spiritual freedom.
=========

Human Being

There are many quotes from the "Desert Fathers" on the internet.
There are a couple whose names are well known.Usually we will not even recognize the name but will remember the quote.

Here is one of my favorites:

Abba Macarius the Great: Become a dead man

A brother came to see Abba Macarius the Egyptian, and said to him,‘Abba, give me a word, that I may be saved.’

So the old man said,‘Go to the cemetery and abuse the dead.’

The brother went there, abused them and threw stones at them; then he returned and told the old man about it.

The latter said to him,‘Didn’t they say anything to you?’ He replied,‘No.’

The old man said,‘Go back tomorrow and praise them.’

So the brother went away and praised them, calling them,‘Apostles, saints and righteous men.’

He returned to the old man and said to him,‘I have complimented them.’

And the old man said to him,‘You know how you insulted them and they did not reply, and how you praised them and they did not speak; so you too if you wish to be saved must do the same and become a dead man.

Like the dead, take no account of either the scorn of men or their praises, and you can be saved.’
Abba Macarius the Great, saying 23; Benedicta Ward, The Sayings of the Desert Fathers, p. 132
Tags:
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465852 Jul 25, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Page 2 of 2
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ROLE OF THE VIRGIN MARY
SALVATION THROUGH MARY
"Most holy Virgin, take us under your protection, for we have no other hope of salvation than through thee." (Page 257)
In Mary, then, the Romanists place all their hope. For they say (page 252) that "he who is protected by Mary is saved; he who is not protected by her is lost".
Thus Romanism is Marianism, and Rome teaches the same today. Even the Mass has been converted into Mary worship by the addition of prayers to her, and the prominence given to them. Pope Leo XIII outstripped his predecessors in this regard and was thus fittingly styled the 'Pope of the Rosary'. The Rosary consists of 166 beads, on which are recited one Creed, 15 Pater nosters and 150 Hail Mary's. Its recitation was said by Leo XIII to be "the most powerful and most pleasing" manner of "honouring" Mary. Every Pope today still issues an encyclical on "The Devotion of the Rosary", in which he preaches Mary-worship.
Again, the following idolatrous language is addressed to Mary by the same author:
"Nothing resists your power, because the Creator of all honours you as his mother, making your glory his own. Mary owes her Son an infinite gratitude for choosing her for his mother; but it is not less true to say that Jesus Christ has contracted a species of obligation towards her for the human existence he received from her, and in recompense for this benefit he honours her by hearing her prayers."
The same writer adopts the following blasphemous address to Mary:
"O great Queen, it is by you the miserable are saved; and because their salvation is your work, they shall form your crown in heaven."
MARY THE INTERCESSOR
"It is the opinion of many, and I hold the opinion to be true and indubitable, that all God's graces are dispensed through the hands of Mary, and that all the elect are brought to salvation through the divine mother. In conformity with this opinion, it may be said that the salvation of all depends on preaching devotion to Mary, and confidence in her intercession."
Who wrote your piece above?

That's what I thought. You're slinging slander to make it seem like that's official Catholic teaching.
That is from a devotional letter by an 17th or 18th century Catholic. Its his personal testimony. His memoirs of his faith.

You fraud. You posted that stuff a month ago and Regina and I took the time to respond fairly so you'd realize the truth. Ha! The truth is so far removed from your brain it aint even funny.

Question Mr. Deacon: If someone changes the Word of God to mean something opposite, are they still saved?
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465853 Jul 25, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Page 2 of 2
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ROLE OF THE VIRGIN MARY
SALVATION THROUGH MARY
"Most holy Virgin, take us under your protection, for we have no other hope of salvation than through thee." (Page 257)
In Mary, then, the Romanists place all their hope. For they say (page 252) that "he who is protected by Mary is saved; he who is not protected by her is lost".
Thus Romanism is Marianism, and Rome teaches the same today. Even the Mass has been converted into Mary worship by the addition of prayers to her, and the prominence given to them. Pope Leo XIII outstripped his predecessors in this regard and was thus fittingly styled the 'Pope of the Rosary'. The Rosary consists of 166 beads, on which are recited one Creed, 15 Pater nosters and 150 Hail Mary's. Its recitation was said by Leo XIII to be "the most powerful and most pleasing" manner of "honouring" Mary. Every Pope today still issues an encyclical on "The Devotion of the Rosary", in which he preaches Mary-worship.
Again, the following idolatrous language is addressed to Mary by the same author:
"Nothing resists your power, because the Creator of all honours you as his mother, making your glory his own. Mary owes her Son an infinite gratitude for choosing her for his mother; but it is not less true to say that Jesus Christ has contracted a species of obligation towards her for the human existence he received from her, and in recompense for this benefit he honours her by hearing her prayers."
The same writer adopts the following blasphemous address to Mary:
"O great Queen, it is by you the miserable are saved; and because their salvation is your work, they shall form your crown in heaven."
MARY THE INTERCESSOR
"It is the opinion of many, and I hold the opinion to be true and indubitable, that all God's graces are dispensed through the hands of Mary, and that all the elect are brought to salvation through the divine mother. In conformity with this opinion, it may be said that the salvation of all depends on preaching devotion to Mary, and confidence in her intercession."
lol. you silly old fella.....trying to pass something off to smear Catholics that is actually someones personal devotional piece. You were thinking you wont get caught recycling someones essay from 175 yrs ago.
Of all the posters on here, you take the blue ribbon when it comes to lies. Honestly, OldJohnGregory, you completely rely on deception in order to have a religion.
ahhh...does propaganda fuel Protestanism or what?
Simple

Chicago, IL

#465854 Jul 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
No I am not. But you surely agree that the line between a Christian and not a Christian is there....right? I mean, at what point is someone deemed 'not a Christian'? Or 'not a Protestant'.
The modern born again movement has nothing in common with the first 200 yrs of Protestanism. Are they considered 'Protestants'?
They deny there was ever a 'Church'. Instead of a 'Church' as the world has come to know, they replaced that title with 'a body of believers'. I assume that means any joe shmoe like OldJG, who picks up a KJV and dictates their own Christianity.
I just do not think Jesus Christ would have established so many opinions on His desire..,
There is only one church. We can agree on that. Any joe shmoe that picks up a bible and does what is required to become a member of that body in God's eyes he will add him to that body. That body is the church. Are you taking the power out of God's hands to work directly with people? Is God limited by what the Catholic Church does? I am not sure where you stand but guess solid in the Roman Catholic faith.

You do realize that there were believers that took the message from Pentecost back to their respective countries. These followers have been following the word since the first century. Do you believe that Catholics are the only church or do you believe that the church is the believers that God has added to the church?
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465855 Jul 25, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Page 1 of 2
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ROLE OF THE VIRGIN MARY
The worship of Mary, today acclaimed as an infallible dogma, was once condemned by the same 'infallible' Church as a deadly sin. Starting in the year 600, the church has made prayers to the virgin, queen of heaven a dogma.
She has been called Mother of God, Queen of Heaven, Refuge of Sinners, Gate of Heaven, Mother of Mercies, Ark of the Covenant, and Spouse of the Holy Ghost.
As we honor God by capitalizing words that refer to Him like (He, Him, His), some honor Mary in the same way by capitalizing pronouns such as (she and her).
A well-known publication, entitled The Glories of Mary, by of Alphonsus Liguori, now a canonized saint of the Church of Rome canonized in 1839 . It has been authoritatively declared by the Church of Rome that all the writings of Alphonsus Liguori contain "not one word worthy of censure".
THE GLORIES OF MARY
by Alphonsus de Liguori
In 1803 the Congregation of Rites stated that "In all the writings of Alfonso de Liguori there is not one word that can be justly found fault with."
Here is what Liguori believes and teaches:
EVEN CHRIST OWES A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO MARY
"Nothing resists your power, because the Creator of all honours you as his mother, making your glory his own. Mary owes her Son an infinite gratitude for choosing her for his mother; but it is not less true to say that Jesus Christ has contracted a species of obligation towards her for the human existence he received from her, and in recompense for this benefit he honors her by hearing her prayers."
SHE IS A SAVIOR AND MEDIATOR
"The way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary." In his book The Glories of Mary, Alphonsus de Liguori writes concerning Mary:
1. "she is truly made a mediatrix of peace between sinners and God."
2. Sinners receive pardon by Mary alone.
3. We shall be heard more quickly if we call on her holy name than we should if we called on the name of Jesus our Saviour.
4. The holy Church commands a worship peculiar to Mary.
5/ Mary is called the Gate of Heaven because no one can enter that blessed kingdom without passing through her.
5/ The way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary.
GOD OBEYS HER COMMANDS
Rome exalts Mary to such a degree that it holds that "all things, even God, obey the commands of Mary".
Rome considers Mary to be a far more powerful mediator than the Lord Jesus Christ: "Sometimes we shall be heard sooner by invoking the intercession of Mary than by praying to Jesus our Saviour" (page 209).
"I am fine, if my Redeemer cast me off on account of my sins, I will throw myself at the feet of His mother, Mary, and will remain prostrate before her, until she obtains my pardon" (page 183).
Rome exalts Mary to such a degree that it holds that "all things, even God, obey the commands of Mary" (page 265).
CHRIST THE ANGRY JUDGE, MARY THE PROTECTOR
The Lord Jesus is entirely ignored as the Advocate of - and Intercessor for - His people, these titles and offices being given to Mary.
Christ is represented as an angry Judge from whom Mary saves sinners; thus she is called "the only advocate of sinners" (page 190f.), and we are told (page 282) that
"her Son, the Judge of the world, cannot bring Himself to condemn the criminals whom she defends", and that (page 193) "when God is angry with a sinner whom Mary takes under her protection, she restrains her Son, that He may not inflict chastisement, and saves the sinner".
"Rome exalts Mary to such a degree, that it holds that, "All things, even God, obeys the commands of Mary.'Rome considers Mary to be a far more powerful mediator than the Lord Jesus Christ"

Buuhahahaha....muuuhahahaha hehehe lol lol lol. I soiled myself at your latest propaganda!

Keep spreading that slander Old fella! I'm sure you can snag a few more victims with those lies, before you check out!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#465856 Jul 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Jesus said
Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for....
the 1.-->prince<--
of this
2.==> world<=== cometh, and
hath nothing in me.
1.-->PRINCE <-- defined in Greek as used in John 14:30
G758
&#945;&#787;&#769; &#961;&#967;&#969; &#957;
archo&#772;n
ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power):- chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.
2.==>WORLD<== defined in Greek...
G2889
&#954;&#959;&#769; &#963;&#956;&#959; &#962;
kosmos
kos'-mos
Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]):- adorning, world.
YOUR POPE ..THE UNIVERSAL PRINCE OF THIS WORLD
WHOM YOU CHURCH HAS SET UP AS THE UNIVERSAL PRINCE
HATH NOTHING IN JESUS CHRIST..
~~~~

JESUS DEFEATED THE DEVIL AT CALVARY....SO HE WOULD NOT BE CALLING SATAN THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD..

THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN THAT HAS CLAIMED TO BE RULER...

PRINCE OF THE CHURCH ,....SINCE JESUS ASCENDED

AND HE ASSAYS TO RULE THE CATHOLIC (UNIVERSAL) CHURCH.

He is the only one that fits the identity of the

"PRINCE OF THIS WORLD." THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH...WHO HAS ATTEMPTED TO RULE

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST AND IS DESCRIBED BY HIS ADHERENCE S AS THE

VICAR OF CHRIST..

THE ONE AND ONLY PERSON THAT HAS EVER MADE THE CLAIM AS

UNIVERSAL LEADER SINCE THE ASCENSION OF CHRIST..

JESUS SAID..

oh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Joh 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and

as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

THE POPE (THE PRINCE OF THIS W0RLD)IGNORES THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST

AND HAS ATTEMPTED TO REPLACE THE BIBLE WITH HIS CONJECTURE... TEACHING

HIS FOLLOWERS TO DO THE SAME
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#465857 Jul 25, 2013
Good night to all the anti Catholics! I am going to bed. At night time, you guys have the floor. This is where you all slam each other with scripture verses, trying to make the others submit to your take on Christianity.
When the Catholics go away, you all participate in a game of Bible verse warfare. Last night, it was Sola Fide. One of you two are not led to Biblical truth on Sola Fide.

How about 'infant Baptism' tonight?

The Catholic Church teaches that infant Baptism is the new circumcision, taught by the Apostles.(Cor 2:11-12) The idea was for the two Christian parents (in the covenant of marriage) to bring forth their child to be initiated into Christianity just like the Jewish parents bring forth their infants for circumcision. This is from the Apostles teachings - both scriptural and oral.
The Apostles Baptized ENTIRE households. Everyone.
(acts 16:15, acts 16: 33, 1cor 1:16)

Christ commanded "bring me the children, do not hinder them"
Simple

Chicago, IL

#465858 Jul 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Is this a true statement???
Atheists believe that no one has a soul. Therefore atheists do not have souls either.
No one has a soul, all are living souls. Then we die. At judgement we will be resurrected as eternal spirits.
Simple

Chicago, IL

#465859 Jul 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
Good night to all the anti Catholics! I am going to bed. At night time, you guys have the floor. This is where you all slam each other with scripture verses, trying to make the others submit to your take on Christianity.
When the Catholics go away, you all participate in a game of Bible verse warfare. Last night, it was Sola Fide. One of you two are not led to Biblical truth on Sola Fide.
How about 'infant Baptism' tonight?
The Catholic Church teaches that infant Baptism is the new circumcision, taught by the Apostles.(Cor 2:11-12) The idea was for the two Christian parents (in the covenant of marriage) to bring forth their child to be initiated into Christianity just like the Jewish parents bring forth their infants for circumcision. This is from the Apostles teachings - both scriptural and oral.
The Apostles Baptized ENTIRE households. Everyone.
(acts 16:15, acts 16: 33, 1cor 1:16)
Christ commanded "bring me the children, do not hinder them"
At least we do not have to worry about you using the bible as you have your doctrine to depend on.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#465860 Jul 25, 2013
error: meant Col 2: 11-12. Not Corinthians.

Baptism is the new circumcision.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#465861 Jul 25, 2013
who="Clay " error: meant Col 2: 11-12. Not Corinthians.
Baptism is the new circumcision.

**********

Go on and read verses 13-15.

KM
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465862 Jul 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Who wrote your piece above?
That's what I thought. You're slinging slander to make it seem like that's official Catholic teaching.
That is from a devotional letter by an 17th or 18th century Catholic. Its his personal testimony. His memoirs of his faith.
You fraud. You posted that stuff a month ago and Regina and I took the time to respond fairly so you'd realize the truth. Ha! The truth is so far removed from your brain it aint even funny.
Question Mr. Deacon: If someone changes the Word of God to mean something opposite, are they still saved?
Who? Here is your answer off of your favorite website:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01334a.htm
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465863 Jul 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
"Rome exalts Mary to such a degree, that it holds that, "All things, even God, obeys the commands of Mary.'Rome considers Mary to be a far more powerful mediator than the Lord Jesus Christ"
Buuhahahaha....muuuhahahaha hehehe lol lol lol. I soiled myself at your latest propaganda!
Keep spreading that slander Old fella! I'm sure you can snag a few more victims with those lies, before you check out!
Who wrote this? Your saint.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01334a.htm
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465864 Jul 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay " error: meant Col 2: 11-12. Not Corinthians.
Baptism is the new circumcision.
**********
Go on and read verses 13-15.
KM
Colossians 2:11-15

English Standard Version (ESV)

11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
Putin

Oklahoma City, OK

#465865 Jul 25, 2013
When Yeshua Was resurrected he and his father left this world and has never intervened again left us here to destroy our self's with sin.And god dammed we are doing a great job.No miracles only those by Satan.

You destroyed my law. you destroyed my holy days. you destroyed my name you made me a god the very thing I can not stand.

no one has any understanding of what you read or what you teach be cause you never reverenced me Yahweh.you reverence a man made god.

And you will cause them to forget my name.

you took my laws of peace and love and you nailed them to a cross. I will make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a cake walk.there will be no rapture.And I come with A vengeance and a wrath like never seen before.Vengeance is Mine Say's Yahweh

And after all these things have took place you still would not give up your god worship.

It is in every concordance around how you changed my name.

The only thing that can save you is to be baptized through yeshua the son. No man or woman can come to the father except through the son even in prayer.
And repent of your god worship And your sins. You Will Not be saved through Grace.
And do not follow the teachings of the churches that sit That do not speak My Name And my laws.The roman catholick church Is the beast and its only teacher is Satan.The time is almost at hand.Sure you will be forgiven for your sins. Because I am A just father.....You St here day after day tickling the ears of each other telling lies.Not one of you have reverenced me nore kept my sabbath my holy days.you keep pagan days.

I told myself i would never post on here again but what the hell all this is true 100%
Now go finish your pork.....

And the message will be preached to all the world and then the end will come.

In heaven you will keep the laws or you will not be there. How do i know this he will not allow heaven to become defiled like this church and i have told you his name and you have slapped him in the face because not one of you can prove this to be incorrect Satan has you all right where she wants you.Deceived. And we do know his name was changed so i would give it 99% chance the god you worship is satan.revelation 12/9

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