Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589161 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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OldJG

Rockford, IL

#465332 Jul 23, 2013
ETERNAL SECURITY by: Pastor Adrian Rogers

1. NOTHING CAN SEPARATE YOU FROM THE LOVE OF GOD WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.(Romans 8:38-39) Neither death nor anything that happens after death, or anything that happens while you're living can separate you from God's love. If there were no other verse in the Bible that deals with eternal security, this one covers the base.

2. WHEN YOU ARE SAVED YOU ARE MADE PERFECT FOREVER
Because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.(Hebrews 10:14) When Jesus died on the cross, He saved you forever. Jesus offered one sacrifice for sin forever. If you ever lost your salvation, in order for you to be saved again, Jesus would have to die again. By one offering He has perfected forever those who were sanctified.

3. OUR LORD ALWAYS FINISHES WHAT HE BEGINS
Being confident of this very thing, that He [God] which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.(Philippians 1:6) Let me tell you what the Holy Spirit of God does for your salvation. First, He convicted you of sin. Second, He converted you. And the Convictor and the Converter is also the Completer. If God fails to finish what He's begun God has failed and He cannot fail.

4. YOU ARE PREDESTINED TO BE LIKE JESUS
For whom He [God] did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.(Romans 8:29) God saw you before this world was put in space. He saw you repent of your sin and ask Jesus to save you. And when God saw that, not only did He foreknow it, but also He predestinated it. If it is settled in eternity how can it be undone in time?

5. YOU ARE IN CHRIST
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.(2 Corinthians 5:17) You are in Christ just like Noah was in the ark. The ark was a picture of Jesus and when Noah went into that ark God shut the door. Noah may have fallen down a lot of times in that ark, but he never fell out of it. Your security is not in a place, it is in a Person and His name is Jesus. And if you're in Jesus, you're secure and if you're not in Jesus you're not secure.

6. YOU ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
Heareth My word, and believeth on him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.(John 5:24) Everlasting life is not something you get when you die. Everlasting life is something you get when you receive Jesus. If I have everlasting life, when can it end? Suppose I had it 10 years and it ended. Did I have everlasting life? No, I had a 10-year life. Whatever you have, if you ever lose it, whatever it was it wasn't everlasting.

7. THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS EVER INTERCEDING
FOR YOU
I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.(John 17:9) Jesus also prayed: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil...Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word" (John 17:15, 20). Say your name in that verse because Jesus prayed for you! Has Jesus ever prayed a prayer that wasn't answered? No, not one (see John 11:42 and Hebrews 7:25).
truth

Perth, Australia

#465333 Jul 23, 2013
EVERY LAW IS NOT LAW
front of Jesus they bring many who is posess=decivers

please explain
respect what?
renunciation..go away evil wicket law from me

Since: Jan 08

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#465334 Jul 23, 2013
marge wrote:
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imo she left because of what Preston said to her, which i will never repeat, and Preston knows what i'm talking about.
marge, you and I both know that Karen and I made up some time ago, right before you back out on your agreement with me.

Karen and I talk but it is on email, as you know when you questioned her concerning me telling her she had mail.

I never ever cussed her out like old jg did, in fact, I have neve r used a filthy word as long as I have been on this forum.
truth

Perth, Australia

#465335 Jul 23, 2013
who set up on evil wicket way what as well charge victim=evil corupt satanic law..
no i don't repect that
never will be until i died
nk

byyyyyyyyyyyyy
tuzna majka ispod kriza stase vele gorko uzdisase
ajme mili krizu prigni mi ga
mili sine koji bolni cini
na kriz svoj ti me primi..
kriz=cross=orible i been complite there=preserve

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyy
truth

Perth, Australia

#465336 Jul 23, 2013
sorrowful mother
you not forget your pain in heart
tears

Since: Jan 08

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#465337 Jul 23, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
imo she left because of what Preston said to her, which i will never repeat, and Preston knows what i'm talking about.
here is part of a email that Karen wrote to me. some I will cut Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:16 PM

Preston,I am so glad you that you got raise,you deserve it.

I haven't been on the catholic site in a long time. I've been meaning to get back,especially since I miss your postings.

I have thought about you nearly everyday.

Karen Partin
I cut her last name,along with her personal message to me. but everyone knows that she is related to dolly parton

Since: Jan 08

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#465338 Jul 23, 2013
the raise that she mentioned was my VA went up from 60% to 80%

Since: Jan 08

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#465339 Jul 23, 2013
To: Karen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:52 PM
Subject: Re:

Karen regardless of what marge said, I did not say anything bad about you

two weeks ago. I want you to know that. as you can see, chuck and I are not arguing about OSAS with each other as we both promised
why she is saying that is beyond me.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#465340 Jul 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If you investigate where the Bible came from instead of just saying, "It came from God", then you'll be that much closer to the Church that Jesus Christ started.
Our Lord started a Church. Once you get past the terrible slander being spread about the Catholic Church, it gets easier and easier to see how this Church out lived every single nation on the planet- when emperors and dictators sought to have them exterminated. Its guided to Biblical truth without error.
The Catholic church outlived all other religions by brute force.

And the Catholics that ended up with all the power over other religions in the Roman empire were the ones to assess what was written in the bible, and they told the stories that fit their own agendas ... period.

The Protestants are plain silly when they use the same words in the same bible and then state that THEY know truth and the Catholics don't know truth.

Myths were never anything but based on fantasy, and conflicting fantasies can brag that they are based on truth, but what is divided cannot unite ... and religion is one big mess of opinions equating to nothing BUT division.

Since: Jan 08

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#465341 Jul 23, 2013
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:43:41 -0700
From: rev_deacon@yahoo.com
Subject: Re:
To:

karen, I am glad that we can talk without anger, I really missed you and I being friends.

marge your ploy didn't work as Karen and I have became friends again even after you tried to cause trouble between us
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#465342 Jul 23, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
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My friends know where I stand with them. They also know that all the posts you and Anthony and Regina do has the agenda of trying to turn them against us.This agenda now should be clear to everyone here.It just confounds me that it would be so important to you all to damage our relationship with them. Obsessive.
First, the Protestant Church and the Protestants, Born Agains etc didnt make a formal declaration that other churches are not true churches as your wise pope did.
The Protestants are not trying to absorb my church. The Orthodox do not want to absorb the Protestants. Its the Catholics. They have conquering in their soul. They have to have everything. This is obvious to everyone but you and whomever writes those asinine Catholic sites.
Someone who wants to water down the Orthodox beliefs (ecumenists) so that we can join with your Church is my enemy and the enemy of just about all Orthodox.
Let me give you a taste of reality. This is how the Orthodox feel about their faith. When my father found out I was studying Catholicism with a nun, my Mom had to call me. She said he paced the floors for 3 nights without sleep.
If someone in my family converted to Catholicism they would be shunned. No one would speak to them.That would apply to all in my little home town. It would be unheard of.No you dont know how Orthodox feel about reunion.
As far as the Protestants go, you should listen to them. Perhaps you may learn the value of a relationship with Christ. You may learn what Christian compassion is.You may learn to make the rituals you go through by rote now actually mean something spiritually.
You have no idea that Orthodoxy in many ways is closer to Protestantism that the Frankish Church (Catholic).
The Catholic sites are so transparently lies that it only fools people like you.
LOL...What a Phony. You were both exposed for the lying hypocrites you are long ago. All anyone need do is read the declarations you posted. No Grace at all they need to be dunked in your one true church. Its so funny that you expect an intelligent person to believe your charade of double speak. You have the true faith by all means all the Protestants agree. lol Get real that your church doesnt proclaim its the one true church, but then maybe they dont have the Pope of Orthodox you who talks out both ends whats up. lol You really are a mental midget incapable of telling truth and distorting things to unrecognizable. You and your wife can have your hate festival fine by me, but your hypocrisy is plain as day. BTW alienation and worry is experienced by family members of all religions. Get over it. If a relationship with Christ means I have to become a liar and phony like you I will pass. Im certain that all the Orhtodox believe that Protestants are closer. lol In your dreams windbag. Your compassion has been quite evident. The only thing you truly share with Protestants (heretics) as your supported site says is your denial of the Papacy but then again your site says the Protestants are worse, but you say you are closer. Perfect doubletalk. Good stuff you got there. The smart byzantines came into communion and of course you quote Bishops when they suit you, but they are wrong and not really Orthodox when they refute you. blah blah blah.

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#465343 Jul 23, 2013
Osas7 wrote:
<quoted text>Because he/she(?) used filthy language, that disqualifies someone as being a Christian? I can name a bunch of believers in the Bible, that fell short in conduct.
live and learn. I thought that you would grow up by now, guess not.

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#465344 Jul 23, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...What a Phony. You were both exposed for the lying hypocrites you are long ago. All anyone need do is read the declarations you posted. No Grace at all they need to be dunked in your one true church. Its so funny that you expect an intelligent person to believe your charade of double speak. You have the true faith by all means all the Protestants agree. lol Get real that your church doesnt proclaim its the one true church, but then maybe they dont have the Pope of Orthodox you who talks out both ends whats up. lol You really are a mental midget incapable of telling truth and distorting things to unrecognizable. You and your wife can have your hate festival fine by me, but your hypocrisy is plain as day. BTW alienation and worry is experienced by family members of all religions. Get over it. If a relationship with Christ means I have to become a liar and phony like you I will pass. Im certain that all the Orhtodox believe that Protestants are closer. lol In your dreams windbag. Your compassion has been quite evident. The only thing you truly share with Protestants (heretics) as your supported site says is your denial of the Papacy but then again your site says the Protestants are worse, but you say you are closer. Perfect doubletalk. Good stuff you got there. The smart byzantines came into communion and of course you quote Bishops when they suit you, but they are wrong and not really Orthodox when they refute you. blah blah blah.
Lost argument. Name call. Name call. Name Call. LOLOL

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#465345 Jul 23, 2013
and we were discussing oldjg in Jan.

Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:37:43 -0800
From: rev_deacon@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: old jg
To:

Since: Dec 11

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#465346 Jul 23, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...What a Phony. You were both exposed for the lying hypocrites you are long ago. All anyone need do is read the declarations you posted. No Grace at all they need to be dunked in your one true church. Its so funny that you expect an intelligent person to believe your charade of double speak. You have the true faith by all means all the Protestants agree. lol Get real that your church doesnt proclaim its the one true church, but then maybe they dont have the Pope of Orthodox you who talks out both ends whats up. lol You really are a mental midget incapable of telling truth and distorting things to unrecognizable. You and your wife can have your hate festival fine by me, but your hypocrisy is plain as day. BTW alienation and worry is experienced by family members of all religions. Get over it. If a relationship with Christ means I have to become a liar and phony like you I will pass. Im certain that all the Orhtodox believe that Protestants are closer. lol In your dreams windbag. Your compassion has been quite evident. The only thing you truly share with Protestants (heretics) as your supported site says is your denial of the Papacy but then again your site says the Protestants are worse, but you say you are closer. Perfect doubletalk. Good stuff you got there. The smart byzantines came into communion and of course you quote Bishops when they suit you, but they are wrong and not really Orthodox when they refute you. blah blah blah.
You need to get something to fill the hole in your life and yourself. Some love. For someone. From someone. Something to fill it because coming here obsessively only to rage at people and attack churches is not going to fill that hole.
truth

Perth, Australia

#465347 Jul 23, 2013
evil can speak nice too..abuse to o very peaceful way..accuse to rest too many things exist on this planet and much more futher even saints wage war in heaven..yeppppppppppppppppp
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#465348 Jul 23, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>You need to get something to fill the hole in your life and yourself. Some love. For someone. From someone. Something to fill it because coming here obsessively only to rage at people and attack churches is not going to fill that hole.
You need to figure out what it is you believe. You can't trash members in good standing in your church and post declarations of what real Orthodox believe that Protestants are heretics and have no grace, just snipping the part that refers to Catholics as heretics. You cant have it both ways. Its doubletalk. Its hypcorisy and shows the phony you are. Nobody speaks for the Orthodox except you apparently and you can't seem to come to grips with what you believe. Its obvious you are trying to pull out points that punch Catholics alone, but deceptively leave out the statements on the far worse Protestants according to your wonderful sites which blast on Protestants. So your hatred is plainly obvious. No Grace unless triple dipped by a Herme Approved Orthodox. Do you even read the tripe you post? Oh...thats right you only posted the part on Catholics.

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#465349 Jul 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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"how was the truth transmitted. Answer: Orally(first)"
I agree. You might want to discuss this with Kay, she doesn't agree.
"and then written(second).
Not only written says St. Paul.
"Everything that was oral, was also written and verifiable"
Jesus, the apostles and St. Paul never say this nor is it found anywhere in the bible.
Scripture alone (from the Reformation slogan Sola Scriptura) is the teaching that Scripture is the Church's only infallible and sufficient rule for deciding issues of faith and practices that involve doctrines.

While the Bible does not contain all knowledge, it does contain that which is necessary for salvation. Indeed, if something is not found in Scripture, it is not binding upon the believer. This view does not deny that the Church has the authority to teach God's Word. Furthermore, while tradition is valuable, it but must be tested by the higher authority of the Scriptures.

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#465350 Jul 23, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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You need to figure out what it is you believe. You can't trash members in good standing in your church and post declarations of what real Orthodox believe that Protestants are heretics and have no grace, just snipping the part that refers to Catholics as heretics. You cant have it both ways. Its doubletalk. Its hypcorisy and shows the phony you are. Nobody speaks for the Orthodox except you apparently and you can't seem to come to grips with what you believe. Its obvious you are trying to pull out points that punch Catholics alone, but deceptively leave out the statements on the far worse Protestants according to your wonderful sites which blast on Protestants. So your hatred is plainly obvious. No Grace unless triple dipped by a Herme Approved Orthodox. Do you even read the tripe you post? Oh...thats right you only posted the part on Catholics.
Noone has this much poison coming out every day without some pain.

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#465351 Jul 23, 2013
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Oct 6, 2012



preston wrote:

<quoted text>this is true but it will date me.lol
years ago, some kids pushed over toilet, and later as they were running from someone, one of the boys fell in the hole, and my brother tried to pull him out and he fell in too.
and no, I asnt in teh bunch, but I heard about it when my brother came in and mom and dad wouldnt let him in the house, and he had to use the old rain barrell(didnt have running water back then).
in fact, just got electric a few years before that.


I know it might not be nice,but I am still laughing about the toilet story.

I cannot imagine falling in the hole.

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