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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675905 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#465486 Jul 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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That was exactly what the Catholics did when they burned innocent humans at the stake. They claimed that the god of the bible hated evil and heretics and witches were perceived BY THE CATHOLICS AS evil.
Actually, there were many sects and cultures who had "burned innocents" at teh stake - not just the Catholics.

Please get your facts accurate, if you are going to try to convey them to others correctly. That way you are not misleading others with false information.

Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning...

"Burning was used as a means of execution in many ancient societies. According to ancient reports,[which?] Roman authorities executed many of the early Christian martyrs by burning, sometimes by means of the tunica molesta, a flammable tunic."

"Indigenous North Americans often used burning as a form of execution, either against members of other tribes or against white settlers during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Roasting over a slow fire was a customary method.[4] See Captives in American Indian Wars."

"Under the Byzantine Empire, burning was introduced as a punishment for disobedient Zoroastrians, because of the belief that they worshiped fire."

"The Byzantine Emperor Justinian (r. 527–565) ordered death by fire, intestacy, and confiscation of all possessions by the State to be the punishment for heresy against the Christian faith in his Codex Iustiniani (CJ 1.5.), ratifying the decrees of his predecessors the Emperors Arcadius and Flavius Augustus Honorius."

"Civil authorities burnt persons judged to be heretics under the medieval Inquisition, including Giordano Bruno. The historian Hernando del Pulgar, contemporary of Ferdinand and Isabella, estimated that the Spanish Inquisition had burned at the stake 2,000 people by 1490 (just one decade after the Inquisition began).[5] In the terms of the Spanish Inquisition a burning was described as relaxado en persona."

"In Denmark the burning of witches increased following the reformation of 1536. Especially Christian IV of Denmark encouraged this practice, which eventually resulted in hundreds of people burnt because of convictions of witchcraft. This special interest of the king also resulted in the North Berwick witch trials with caused over seventy people to be accused of witchcraft in Scotland on account of bad weather when James VI of Scotland (later James I of England), who shared the Danish king's interest in witch trials, in 1590 sailed to Denmark to meet his betrothed Anne of Denmark."

Additionally, as noted in "The History of Magic", a reissue of the original 1948 Kurt Seligmann's "The Mirror of Magic", he posits that some witch burning was the result of a hired "witch pricker" who pricked people with a needle, and if they didn't bleed, it was a sign of them being a witch. Each "witch" that was turned over, was worth a sum of money to this person.
- some of this "pricks" (see what I did??-*smiles*) would earn quite a fanciful living doing this illiterate activity.

Like I've always stated, you have much to learn.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#465487 Jul 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I get why Protestantland thinks like they do, at first. Basically, Protestants had the floor for the last 400 yrs. Everywhere they went, they could easily sway the folks into their thinking by simply opening up their Bible and pointing to a verse. Nobody ever questioned the minister because, hey, it says it right there in the Holy Bible!!!
But does it say that? Or does if self proclaimed Minister says it says that?
The information super highway will be the end of you and the other paper Popes. No longer will your accusations go unquestioned.
Catholicism can be proven, both from scripture, sacred tradition, history and logic.
I find it hard to believe no Protesters bothered to read the writings of the first Christians to see what the Apostles communicated orally- before, during and after some of their teachings were put down on scroll.
The evidence is in. You have changed the word of God to mean something different than what was taught. You were excused for the last 50 yrs because you didn't know any different. But are you now? Ignorance won't set you free, I guarantee it.
~~~

I FOUND FREEDOM WHEN I RECEIVED JESUS CHRIST AS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR

IN AND AROUND 1940... IN A LIL PENTECOSTAL HOLINESS CHURCH IN SIX WEST

VIRGINIA I AM NOW 79...

You have come much to late to attempt to draw me into the bondage of your

Roman Empirical religion that has continued the dynasty of Constantine

for 1600 years, IN ROME .... I SERVE JESUS GOD NOT ROME...

My experience with God through Jesus Christ...is not tainted with the

fables myths and conjecture of Roman ism...

I AM NOT CATHOLIC..

I AM A CHRISTIAN

I STRIVE TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS SAYS

Mat_22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mar_12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Luk_10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

I DON'T HAVE A PROXY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD...

i DON'T HAVE A POPE A CO-EXECUTOR BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

Executer
EX'ECUTER, n. One who performs or carries into effect.[See executor.]

~~~

I DON'T HAVE MARY AS A CO-EXECUTRIX BETWEEN ME AND JESUS

A EXECUTRIX, n. A female executor; a woman appointed by a testator to execute his will.[The latter word is generally used.]

I DON'T HAVE AN EARTHLY PRIEST BETWEEN ME AND GOD.

1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and -->one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; <--

MEDIA'TOR, n. One that interposes between parties at variance for the purpose of reconciling them.

1. By way of eminence, Christ is the mediator, the divine intercessor through whom sinners may be reconciled to an offended God. 1Tim.2:5

Christ is a mediator by nature, as partaking of both natures divine and human; and mediator by office, as transacting matters between God and man.

I HAVE SIMPLY BELIEVED AND FOLLOWED THE WORD OF GOD
THAT SAYS

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465488 Jul 24, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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And within Judaism, all three are equally valued as Rabbinicl Opinions, NOT the "Word of God".
Interestingly, one can even be an atheist and still be a good Jew.
I suggest you are pulling my leg.

Women of Judaism KNOW how strict are some of those RULES that come from the rabbis, who claim that GOD ordained the rules.

Observe Christopher Hitchens raking rabbi Kushner over the coals concerning the barbarism of circumcision.
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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#465489 Jul 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Clay, I READ. What I believe was clearly written by the Apostles. Jesus is ALIVE, and He empowers us BY HIS SPIRIT. The 'power' of men cannot build His church.
KayMarie
Bologna.

You'll cater to the forum with this untruth, and they may believe you - for a moment, but I've already shown you how you contradict yourself in your belief - daily.

Own it Kay.....and be truthful for a change.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#465490 Jul 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I comprehend that you are certain as a new age spiritual leader that your self is the image to be followed.
Once we figure YOU out, we will have it made and be on the right path to creating harmony in the world.
My self is not able to be a leader. It's too mortal and selfish and unruly to follow your "spiritual correctness."
Ah yes - no citations, but just more admonishments.

I understand.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465491 Jul 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Actually, there were many sects and cultures who had "burned innocents" at teh stake - not just the Catholics.
The early Pagans were the ones that taught the Catholics that the angry gods lusted after sacrifices of human and non-human animals.

Religion was used as an excuse for humans to be brutal in the guises that they were following the wills of gods.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465492 Jul 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
I FOUND FREEDOM WHEN I RECEIVED JESUS CHRIST
You perceive that OTHERS are evil and fodder for hell.

Your supposed freedom is not healthy for your self or for those around you who might take your words as truth and believe that they will indeed go to hell.

You are a danger to impressionable minds.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465493 Jul 24, 2013
KayMarie gives the impression that he is a puritan in his own eyes ... but I suggest there's much more to his story that he isn't telling.
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Years ago I watched, and listened to an interview of a mainstream Christian minister, who was dying from AIDS. He told of how in his earlier ministry, he had preached that those who proclaim to be gay could change if they chose to change … and if they didn’t, it was because they were just using it as an excuse to continue the “life-style” of promiscuous behavior.

He was a married man with two daughters, and as he traveled around the country, preaching his gospel to the believers, because he was telling them exactly what they wanted to hear, in their states of excitement, they would clap and cheer.

However, there was a story that he was not sharing with these believers. And that was that he had the same tendencies as what he was preaching against.

He told the woman who was interviewing him of how back then he was so desperate to change his attraction to other men, that he would place the bible over his crotch, and would then pray in sincerity, that he would be relieved of such feelings.

Then, his desire was such, that one weekend, crazed with passion, he had unprotected sex with twelve different men. That is when he contacted AIDS.

The interview took place eleven days before his death.

When asked what happened within his church, he said that he was expected to get up in front of the congregation and share all of the details … and then they fired him. He told of how he was a completely broken man … how he had lost everything … his family … his income, and what he thought were his friends in the church.

He shared how in the marriage with his wife, that she knew he was attracted to men, and he told of how they had only had sex a very few times, because to him it just was not natural.

He was very weak by the time the interview ended, but when asked what were his greatest regrets, he shared that he was the most sorry for preaching to young gays that they could change if they chose to change. He said he had heard that after hearing him preach, some of the young gays had committed suicide. And for being responsible for that, he was MOST sorry.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465494 Jul 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes - no citations, but just more admonishments.
I understand.
I'm stating my opinions, just as you are stating yours. I don't ask you for citations, as I don't have a need for them.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465495 Jul 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Bologna.
You'll cater to the forum with this untruth, and they may believe you - for a moment, but I've already shown you how you contradict yourself in your belief - daily.
Own it Kay.....and be truthful for a change.
You forgot to post "Self."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465496 Jul 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I FOUND FREEDOM WHEN I RECEIVED JESUS CHRIST AS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR
IN AND AROUND 1940... IN A LIL PENTECOSTAL HOLINESS CHURCH IN SIX WEST
VIRGINIA I AM NOW 79...
Do you believe with those words you could impress a Jewish rabbi???

:)

My guess is, he wouldn't be PHASED or MOVED by the pride you have in Protestantism. He would be about as impresses as would the pope.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465497 Jul 24, 2013
impressed
Clay

Garden City, MI

#465498 Jul 24, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I have the same problem. I went to bed around 11:00 and couldn't sleep. I sometimes am still up when Cathie comes home at 7:30
We know you guys are really up all night because you're watching EWTN..

“Free gift means FREE”

Since: Jan 09

Chicagoland

#465499 Jul 24, 2013
Simple wrote:
<quoted text>
That is why this soul thing being a spirit was perpetrated. The soul being separate from the body is not biblically correct.
Some say the soul is the mind, so perhaps I worded it incorrectly, and should have said our spirit is perfected? What's your thoughts?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465500 Jul 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I've always stated, you have much to learn.
A fellow stated yesterday ... he has given up on learning.

:)

It seems that you missed what I posted earlier about Pagan cultures burning humans and non-human animals in the flames to appease the supposed gods.
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From the book …“The Golden Bough” by James Frazer

The Burning of Men and Animals in the Fires.

The Druidical sacrifices which we are considering were explained in a different way by W. Mannhardt. He supposed that the men whom the Druids burned in wicker-work images represented the spirits of vegetation, and accordingly that the custom of burning them was a magical ceremony intended to secure the necessary sunshine for the crops. Similarly, he seems to have inclined to the view that the animals which used to be burnt in the bonfires represented the corn-spirit, which, as we saw in an earlier part of this work, is often supposed to assume the shape of an animal. This theory is no doubt tenable, and the great authority of W. Mannhardt entitles it to careful consideration. I adopted it in former editions of this book; but on reconsideration it seems to me on the whole to be less probable than the theory that the men and animals burnt in the fires perished in the character of witches. This latter view is strongly supported by the testimony of the people who celebrate the fire-festivals, since a popular name for the custom of kindling the fires is “burning the witches,” effigies of witches are sometimes consumed in the flames, and the fires, their embers, or their ashes are supposed to furnish protection against witchcraft.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#465501 Jul 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
God sent Luther(that rose up from their own ranks ) with the reformation and renaissance...
They attempted to kill him...as they had untold thousands with
torture,..murder,.. burnings at stake ..in the inquisition.
and don;t forget the crusades.
No one will ever convince me that a true CHRISTIAN Church would ever
commit such atrocities.
THE BIBLE SAYS
Rom 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
Rom 12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
Rom 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Rom 12:19 ==> Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. <==
Rom 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger,
feed him;
if he thirst,
give him drink:
for in so doing
thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Rom 12:21 Be not overcome of evil,
but overcome evil with good.
See what I mean. You are not interested in truth at all. Truth frightens you.

"killed untold thousands, torture, burning at the stake. Inquisition , Crusades Blah Blah"

Why bother taking the time to inform you of facts when you could care less.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#465502 Jul 24, 2013
Osas7 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, I dont believe in your religious atheism either.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/24/ca...

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/22/chur...

There is even a site where they can get ordained as ministers!!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#465503 Jul 24, 2013
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

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NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT MENTION A ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH...

IT IS A SHAME THAT A

Roman Empirical religion

(that has continued the dynasty

of Constantine) HAS HY-JACKED Christianity for OVER

1600 years, IN ROME ....

THAT WAS WHEN THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE TRUE WORD OF GOD WAS STARTED...AND IT CONTINUES TODAY...

GOD INTERVENED AND ATTEMPTED TO RESTORE TRUE

CHRISTIANITY IN THE REFORMATION

BUT THE SAME SPIRIT OF CONSPIRACY AGAINST GOD'S WORD CONTINUES TODAY...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#465504 Jul 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you are pulling my leg.
Women of Judaism KNOW how strict are some of those RULES that come from the rabbis, who claim that GOD ordained the rules.
Observe Christopher Hitchens raking rabbi Kushner over the coals concerning the barbarism of circumcision.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Xx_ov2NiNo4XX
You realize that there almost as many differences among Jews as Christians, right ?

Judaism is referred to by Jews as "Tradition" and no Rabbi carries the authority of "God's Word".

You seem to think that there are only Hasidim. That is like thinking all Christians are Amish. LOL

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#465505 Jul 24, 2013
Osas7 wrote:
<quoted text>Some say the soul is the mind, so perhaps I worded it incorrectly, and should have said our spirit is perfected? What's your thoughts?
Preachers state whatever comes to their mind.

That's why they are a danger to society, as they claim the gods told them what to say and what to do ... such as burning evil offenders of gods in the flames.

http://www.thecontroversialfiles.net/2013/04/...

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