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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685908 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464579 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I believe what Jesus said,
Catholic theologians compiled and approved of all the data in the new testament. They created the Jesus-myth which was simply a re-warmed myth from other religious history.

You were fed that information and taught to believe it was based on truth.

Every theologian in every religion committed the same atrocities by programming the minds of their devout followers.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#464580 Jul 22, 2013
The OT teaches us about the mistakes that the jewish people made,

the NT helps us to overcome those mistakes through His Sacrifice.

that is the Bible in a nutshell(If I can use that term).

please don't make it harder than that.

the Way is plain too follow, Follow Jesus.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#464581 Jul 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Its highly unlikely the Apostle Thomas wrote the 'Gospel of Thomas'. Most scholars think it was penned by men in the 2nd century.
Regardless, all scripture relied on a group to label it as 'inspired'. The Bible never instructs us on what Books belong in it. In Christianity, it took the authority of the Catholic Church at the councils of Laodicea, Carthage, Rome and Hippo to finalize the Biblical canon in the 4th century.
If you are going to use this argument against Jesus' Apostles, then the same logic would have to be applied to a good protion of the NT.
- "John" - unknown author
- "Mark" - unknown author
- "Matthew" - unknown author

"Paul's letters" - a few are NOT written by "Paul", even he admits this
- 2 Timothy - a "Pastoral" is considered not written by him
- Hebrews - is also another that was considered penned to refute Gnosticism

You argument is failing.

Hypocrite.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464582 Jul 22, 2013
[QUOTE who="atemcowboyDon't get yourself worked up, trust and believe[/QUOTE]

Case in point! Just trust what your theologian taught you and don't ask questions of his theology.

The fact that the theologian taught you others would go to hell is the part that should bother your conscience ... if it was allowed by you to be at all active.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#464583 Jul 22, 2013
who="RoSesz"
So the prodigal is not the Believer who sins??
And the Shepherd will not go after His lost sheep th as t The FATHER gave Him??
And when He told us about forgiveness..??
It just makes some of scripture confusing to believe that a repentant
Believe cannot be forgiven..Has shut the door on salvation
That's nit to speak of one who never turns back to the Lord.
Or the Jews the Hebrew writer addressed who were going back t o practice of Sacrificial Judaism
If ALL sin and fall short if the glory of God ..how can it be that The blood will not cover sin of the believer..
Sorry Kay ..gif ..But very contradictory..???

yes very contradictory...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#464584 Jul 22, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" These god-leeches have very low self-esteem. "I must pray ... I must not lose faith ... I must worship god so that god will love me. I don't want to be in his bad books. Worry ... worry ... worry!"
If there is a god and that god is of the nature of love ... your worries are in VAIN.
And if there is a god and the god is NOT of the nature of love ... all the worry in the world is not going to guarantee that the god will love you.
And that is the truth!
**********

Sometimes you ALMOST get it right!
(1) There IS a God.
(2) He IS love.
(3) Worry will NOT guarantee that He will love me.

Worrying is expressing doubt toward Him.

But if I covenant with Him (come into agreement with Him, acknowledging that He IS, and CAN save me), THAT faith in Him makes me ALIVE ETERNALLY.

KayMarie

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#464585 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>using the Bible, could you tell us what part of the Earth was not affected? surely murray has told you this in the past, correct?
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
and this verse proves that you know nothing about the Bible or are just plain ignorant(I choose both).
But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the [whole earth]: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
Step away from the Bible, the answer is not there.

*hands you a Geology book*

Much better information in regards to climate change, the Ace Age, how volcanic landslides into the Med Sea has caused tsunamis in other parts of the Med Sea.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#464586 Jul 22, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" I know a mother whose little twin girls would hang one on each leg and scream and scream at her to hold them.
The mother was in the habit of leaving them and her husband whenever things didn't go her way.
Those girls were traumatized in the emotion that she didn't love them enough to stay in their lives.
You people that are always whining about faith and clinging to your images of a god (whatever they may be) remind me of those twin girls.
"Please god ... love me ... I am lovable ... I am NOT evil ... I am worthy of heaven ... I pray and I pray to you ... PLEASE LOVE ME!!!"
You behave as though you have never been weaned.
*******

Close again...but this one involves failure on one side or the other. Either the girls did not believe that their mother loved them...OR...the mother deprived them of love.

Our Father God DOES love us, but some folk are not confident in that love...just like those girls.

KayMarie

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#464587 Jul 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholic theologians compiled and approved of all the data in the new testament. They created the Jesus-myth which was simply a re-warmed myth from other religious history.
You were fed that information and taught to believe it was based on truth.
Every theologian in every religion committed the same atrocities by programming the minds of their devout followers.
sorry June ,but with me, you got your hands on a different animal.

I was fed nothing about Jesus from any catholic source, and concerning Truth about If he is real or not, I can depend on my own sensory capacity.

For on around Jan.30, 1965, on my way to the killing fields of Vietnam, I saw him with my own eyes as He sat beside me, shortly thereafter, I myself was being transported to a Military Hospital almost dead.

you might convince some mone else with your words but NEVER ME. I KNOW BETTER. MY JESUS LIVES AND LIVES FOREVER.

AND THE CHURCH SAYS; AMEN!!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464588 Jul 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Could this number reference that is found in the Western Hemisphere and in the East, be an earlier reference to the current death rate?
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/About_HFC/De...
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/live-world...
If you believe it "fits" for your desired belief ... for you it WILL fit.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#464589 Jul 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="RoSesz"
So the prodigal is not the Believer who sins??
And the Shepherd will not go after His lost sheep th as t The FATHER gave Him??
And when He told us about forgiveness..??
It just makes some of scripture confusing to believe that a repentant
Believe cannot be forgiven..Has shut the door on salvation
That's nit to speak of one who never turns back to the Lord.
Or the Jews the Hebrew writer addressed who were going back t o practice of Sacrificial Judaism
If ALL sin and fall short if the glory of God ..how can it be that The blood will not cover sin of the believer..
Sorry Kay ..gif ..But very contradictory..???
**********
God created man to LIVE BY FAITH. The Bible instructs us that we may not only live, but LIVE ETERNALLY if we have faith in Him.
I was born to my father, and was given his name. I could be a good, honorable daughter, or I could be a rebellious, dishonorable daughter...but I remain his daughter.
The Greek word that is translated 'shall' in our Bible, means "must", or "will HAVE TO BE". Paul said, "BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you SHALL (must or will have to) be saved. One cannot maintain 'faith' in Him and be lost.
He will instruct or correct us, as necessary...but as we trust HIM, He is continually working to perfect us. Don't give up on Him...He will never give up on you.
BELIEVE in His salvation...not your own goodness. Keep your faith alive.
KayMarie
Ok I do believe This..We must maintain Faith.

Your?? Posts,yesterday seemed to be saying a Saved person who sins
Has,crucified Christ..made His blood not cover new sin
And there is no repentance

And this was confusing ..as if the SPIRIT convicts you and you repent ..can you not be reconciled..especially if your s inning ..had nothing to do with going to say belief in Apollo ..

You still believe Jesus is Lord ..never deny Him..But DON'T we all sin
And some people may even turn away by say not praying or getting bogged down in other things..

Just saying if He looks for LOST SHEEP His Father gave Him ..won't He want us back ..Not make it that we have shut the door behind us.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#464590 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>chill out. she is just a young child. the fact that she has a testimony to give is wonderful,AND ON FACEBOOK WHERE ALL OF HER FRIENDS CAN READ IT.
now look at the difference between you and this woman(am deleting her name)
XXXXX XXXX your welcome it blesses my heart to see[[[[[ young people]]]]]] serving the Lord .
I do not view the use of god to refer to God as serving the Lord...but as insulting him....

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#464591 Jul 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Step away from the Bible, the answer is not there.
*hands you a Geology book*
Much better information in regards to climate change, the Ace Age, how volcanic landslides into the Med Sea has caused tsunamis in other parts of the Med Sea.
It so happens that the Bible is a Book of Science if you can read and understand.

the water rushed in where the earth rose as the Bible states.Not my fault if he cant understand it, he aint a Christian

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#464592 Jul 22, 2013
marge wrote:
who="RoSesz"
So the prodigal is not the Believer who sins??
And the Shepherd will not go after His lost sheep th as t The FATHER gave Him??
And when He told us about forgiveness..??
It just makes some of scripture confusing to believe that a repentant
Believe cannot be forgiven..Has shut the door on salvation
That's nit to speak of one who never turns back to the Lord.
Or the Jews the Hebrew writer addressed who were going back t o practice of Sacrificial Judaism
If ALL sin and fall short if the glory of God ..how can it be that The blood will not cover sin of the believer..
Sorry Kay ..gif ..But very contradictory..???
yes very contradictory...
only to the unlearned is the Bible appearing to be contradicting, as you have proven yourself to be.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#464593 Jul 22, 2013
who="Coffee Freak"
It is human nature to worry, whether you are God fearing, God loving or a non believer. The God of my understanding knows that and He IS love. There are so many contradictions in the Bible and of what people say. That's why, in my opinion, I just try to be the best person I can be. I believe God (whoever He/She/It is) loves us all, despite what we do and who we are. It is inconceivable to me how God can love a child molester, a murderer, and others who commit evil acts but if God is love, than He loves them anyway, just doesn't love what they do. We, according to the Bible, were made in His image. All I can say is just be the best person you can be and learn from mistakes. The 10 Commandments are a basic guideline for living. If we try and follow them, I think we'll be ok.=)
**********

In other words, it is just a matter of trusting God's Word.
As for 'contradictions in the Bible', I'm discovering that some things seem contradictory because WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

KayMarie

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#464594 Jul 22, 2013
marge wrote:
A Christian is a new creation.“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!”(2 Corinthians 5:17). This verse speaks of a person becoming an entirely new creature as a result of being “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be canceled and reversed.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-sa...
I agree - one must beleive in all of what Jesus taught to understasnd what he taught. One cannot do this with just a portion of his teachings.

Looks like you have fallen short of the goal you seek.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#464595 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>she had went and gave her life to the Lord around a year ago but didn't go to church regularly
Well it is,wonderful for all of you that she is a believer
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464596 Jul 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Sometimes you ALMOST get it right!
(1) There IS a God.
(2) He IS love.
(3) Worry will NOT guarantee that He will love me.
1 ... that is your opinion.
2 ... a god of love would not allow a devil to run his kingdom.
3 ... worry will not guarantee that a god exists OR loves only your Protestant butt.

If you believe that without strings attached a god loves everyone unconditionally ... you would have not need to believe in it's existence, or to worship it , or to preach nonsense ... period.

You are a worry-wart that if you don't convert the people of the world to your Protestant religion, they will spend eternity in hell.

Worry ... worry ... worry!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464597 Jul 22, 2013
Ye of little faith believe that a perfect god would be so low as to allow a devil his dues.

What a sinister religion.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#464598 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>It so happens that the Bible is a Book of Science if you can read and understand.
the water rushed in where the earth rose as the Bible states.Not my fault if he cant understand it, he aint a Christian
Only in those minds that have deluded Science in error.

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