Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463334 Jul 18, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
New Age Spiritual Leader:
It all goes to uniformity of the message....To many "fiction" writers, be they sincere or not, suggesting spiritual truths, required some authentication process.
Whether you like it or not, that authentication process took place. I would suggest, that because they were nearer in time to the events and writings which took place, they were better able to filter what transpired in the canonization process.
Whether you agree with that process or not suggests more that you are open to reviewing what is taught, in the light of modern efforts to retrieve(although not entirely successful due to textual decay) the writings of those considered heretical at that time....
...HB....it took people 200+ years to "authenticate"?

Why are you pandering to the ruse?
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463335 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
That's because you ARE lying.
You believe Catholicism owns the truth ... period ... and that you will be saved ... period ... and that hell is for others ... period!
June:

You keep asserting this without proof, or justification, therefore at best it is only an opinion.

It must be very difficult repeating yourself in order to be believed....

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#463336 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I betcha you wouldn't be thinking this if you were abducted by Ariel Castro.
Tell me Rose, why would you force a 14 yr old rape victim to carry an unwanted child?
To teach them a lesson - for their entire life? What would be that lesson?
- That it is okay to be raped and become pregnant, just so the child can be born?
- That the 14 yr old girl has no say in her life?
You and others like you are despicable.
And killing a new life makes that horrid story better ..how??

Young girls on the street are taken by their pumps to Abortion clinics..

Where they find ways around notifying parents..ALOWWING FIRCED prostitution to continue.

Those clinic people may be the ONKY outside people those poor girls are allowed in contact with...

But as long as their pumps pay the bill..those girl jeep getting raped..keep getting MEDICAL INVASIVE procedures that may leave tem sterile.

AND I AM DESPICABLE..

they are aiding and abetting rapists and slave driver's.

All in the name if CHOICE!!!!!!!

That is worse than despicable ..it's criminal.

They catch one woman following their policies and scream oh no we will fire her ...it's nit what we do here.

Yet those little girls are getting abortions someplace.

But it's nit PC fir the authorities to monitor clinics.

Clinics they did NOT monitor. ON PURPOSE..like Gosnells.

Heaven forbid we upset the movement ....
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463337 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The fact that non-human animals that can't betray a god suffer horrible pain every day, ongoing, indicates that if there is an all-knowing, all-powerful creator ... that creator is TOTALLY responsible for the suffering.
There can be NO other REASON for the suffering of non-human animals, and that means the creator is definitely a sadist.
Religion is BUNK!
June:

You are responsible for evil. Why? Because you allow abortion/killing/suffering.

Prove to me I am wrong.

God said don't do it. You override God's command. You pay the price.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#463338 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Anthony MN wrote:
The authority of the Church is not a trivial issue, to Catholics anyaway.
New Age wrote:
Just to keep you honest Anthony, you still haven't answered this request either.
Is there a problem?
<quoted text>
Why are Catholics so afraid to answer strraight forward questions that affect their belief, as you have done?
Please define the "authority of the Church" - who is this authority?
We already know that you don't belong to the "Church" because you don't believe in Jesus, but you will promote this so-called "Church", yet can't explain its authoritative construct.
Maybe you should learn more about the religion you tout, because you seem to be lacking understanding even in these simple questions.
You are a wonderful example of why people leave your religious beleif - you love to cause confusion within others, so they find it quite hard to believe you.
You aren't very credible.
""Please define the "authority of the Church""

"the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ's own authority."

"" - who is this authority?"

The pope and the bishops.

Anything else?
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463339 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO
I am telling decorated TO MARY.
Maybe you are calling it intercessory prayer now.
But we prayed to her.
we prayed to her
Obviously there are still prayers TO HER
http://catholicism.about.com/od/prayers/qt/Re...
This one asks for her mercy
FROM THE LIST in this page titled
Prayers TO the Virgin Mary
As,I said before ..I personally don't find prayers asking His mother for intercession. TO HER SON..
all that wrong ..probably because I grew up that way.
But Jesus IS TO BE our only intermediary to God .
And another question .
Is heresy something against the actual bible teaching ...or against the Catholic church
RoSezs:

Heresy, generally is a degree of inaccuracy from the Absolute Truth.

Since we all have sinned, and live in sinfulness(though we seek not to according to our consciences), we are all heretical to some degree.

Jesus, and the Holy Spirit guide us from our heretical ways to His Way, and sanctifies us into holiness....
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463340 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe that at all. Religion is all based on fantasy, and if one group of truth-claimers just happened to hit the bulls eye of truth ... they wouldn't have a clue that it had happened, as fantasy shoots blanks from the darkness of human ignorance.
Human religionists are simply arrogant in their claims of knowing truth.
June:

Hmmm....And since you arrogantly claim you know the truth, that makes you a human religionist.

Sounds like your in denial.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#463341 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
Correction N F P is birth control
No it's not.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#463342 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
It would sure give the non-human animals a break from all the bombs going off and the pollution caused by human greed ... yours and mine.
If you believe evolution is the mechanism which produced homo sapiens, why would you want to eliminate what evolution produced? Did evolution screw up along the way by making us what we are?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#463343 Jul 18, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
""Please define the "authority of the Church""
"the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ's own authority."
"" - who is this authority?"
The pope and the bishops.
Anything else?
Sorry budding no they are not.
Jesus would never have these men or a church such as yours any authority to over rule His word which the catholic church has done.
You have a false church with false teachers, false prophet.
With no authority at all.
Those the catholic church couldn't rule with fear and lies they butchered and tortured.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#463344 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, when the pope and others suggest that birth control is evil, there WILL be more abortions. That is common sense.
And extra-marital sex is wrong to some people but to swingers it is a man and wife agreeing that extra-marital sex is not cheating, but rather just a whole lot of fun.
It is not my choice at all, but I won't preach at them if they don't preach at me.
Wouldn't be so much fun when they get a V.D. Or Aids.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463345 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
And killing a new life makes that horrid story better ..how??
Young girls on the street are taken by their pumps to Abortion clinics..
Where they find ways around notifying parents..ALOWWING FIRCED prostitution to continue.
Those clinic people may be the ONKY outside people those poor girls are allowed in contact with...
But as long as their pumps pay the bill..those girl jeep getting raped..keep getting MEDICAL INVASIVE procedures that may leave tem sterile.
AND I AM DESPICABLE..
they are aiding and abetting rapists and slave driver's.
All in the name if CHOICE!!!!!!!
That is worse than despicable ..it's criminal.
They catch one woman following their policies and scream oh no we will fire her ...it's nit what we do here.
Yet those little girls are getting abortions someplace.
But it's nit PC fir the authorities to monitor clinics.
Clinics they did NOT monitor. ON PURPOSE..like Gosnells.
Heaven forbid we upset the movement ....
Your response had nothing to do with my questions. Let me try asking again:

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

I betcha you wouldn't be thinking this if you were abducted by Ariel Castro.
Tell me Rose, why would you force a 14 yr old rape victim to carry an unwanted child?
To teach them a lesson - for their entire life? What would be that lesson?
- That it is okay to be raped and become pregnant, just so the child can be born?
- That the 14 yr old girl has no say in her life?

Well? Are these too touogh for you to answer using honesty? Or do you still want to continue in your diversion tactics and avoid answering.

Anthony has done so, the "cowboy" has done it, Psalm23 has done so also, asn I even beleive there is a post out there from a couple weeks ago toyou , that you haven't answered my questions either.

Honesty - yeah sure - nowhere to be found in many on this forum.

You put on a facade for the world to see, just to hide from the truth.

*sighs*
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463346 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
...HB....it took people 200+ years to "authenticate"?
Why are you pandering to the ruse?
New Age Spiritual Leader:

I suppose it goes to wanting to be educated.

Since the canonization of the Bible, there have been an almost countless amount of writings concerning God and man's relationship with God, and others.

You might as well say Neitsche should belong in the Bible....If not, then why are you pandering to the ruse?(smiles), simply because its modern?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#463347 Jul 18, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry budding no they are not.
Jesus would never have these men or a church such as yours any authority to over rule His word which the catholic church has done.
You have a false church with false teachers, false prophet.
With no authority at all.
Those the catholic church couldn't rule with fear and lies they butchered and tortured.
You're not in charge of deciding what Jesus would or wouldn't have done.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#463348 Jul 18, 2013
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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463349 Jul 18, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
""Please define the "authority of the Church""
"the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ's own authority."
"" - who is this authority?"
The pope and the bishops.
Anything else?
Looky-there, finally a straight answer.

Did it hurt you too much to respond and admit that you are not part of any authority?

From this point forward, and this is to all Catholics, you are not part of the "Church".

Own it, it is true.

Unless you think like many who are not Catholic, and the so-called "Church" is made up of individuals who believe in Jesus and his message. Even that is a stretch for the many.....

Sheez, I'd rather dance the waltz....in the least, I know the steps.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463350 Jul 18, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
""Please define the "authority of the Church""
"the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ's own authority."
"" - who is this authority?"
The pope and the bishops.
Anything else?
Now if you can just give me another direct answer to:

Do you believe the Pope is infallible?

C'mon Anthony - you can do this, it isn't that difficult.

Sometimes, one must swallow their pride in order to swallow the truth.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463351 Jul 18, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
New Age Spiritual Leader:
I suppose it goes to wanting to be educated.
Since the canonization of the Bible, there have been an almost countless amount of writings concerning God and man's relationship with God, and others.
You might as well say Neitsche should belong in the Bible....If not, then why are you pandering to the ruse?(smiles), simply because its modern?
maybe he should be.

Well that would be if religion didn't limit "God's" inspiration, as it has.

You do believe that "God" has limitless inspiration, correct? Or was it just limited to a handful of people that wrote the Bible texts?

You really didn't think it out this far, huh?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#463352 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Now if you can just give me another direct answer to:
Do you believe the Pope is infallible?
C'mon Anthony - you can do this, it isn't that difficult.
Sometimes, one must swallow their pride in order to swallow the truth.
You don't know what infallible is do you?

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#463354 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Your response had nothing to do with my questions. Let me try asking again:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I betcha you wouldn't be thinking this if you were abducted by Ariel Castro.
Tell me Rose, why would you force a 14 yr old rape victim to carry an unwanted child?
To teach them a lesson - for their entire life? What would be that lesson?
- That it is okay to be raped and become pregnant, just so the child can be born?
- That the 14 yr old girl has no say in her life?
Well? Are these too touogh for you to answer using honesty? Or do you still want to continue in your diversion tactics and avoid answering.
Anthony has done so, the "cowboy" has done it, Psalm23 has done so also, asn I even beleive there is a post out there from a couple weeks ago toyou , that you haven't answered my questions either.
Honesty - yeah sure - nowhere to be found in many on this forum.
You put on a facade for the world to see, just to hide from the truth.
*sighs*
Well first ..it would nit happen..

But second raping her and then pulling a,baby out of her without her consent so he could keep raping her.

Is compound WRONG.

AND,in due answer ..those clinics that aid and abet rape of young girls are what is despicable.

Not just one ..But the whole of the baby sex workers....it's criminal but authorities close their eyes to the ONE group of institution where they could actually find and prosecute these people.

And you pro choice people applaud it as women's rights..And block every measure at parental notification..

It's disgusting and hypocritical ..imo

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