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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665402 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#463322 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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....since you are an frequently attending participant here, one could consider this forum as your support-group.
:o)
Well I don't seem to be getting much support for my opinions.

Maybe it goes deeper than that huh??? Maybe others believe I am supposed to be traveling in spiritual realms with them.

The problem is, those that believe they travel in spiritual realms don't even seem to believe they travel in the same spiritual realms with each other.

Those in Abrahamic religions preach that there is one god. How can that, be unless the Jews, Catholic, Muslims and Protestants divvy up the god into "portions."

Ridiculous!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463323 Jul 18, 2013
Correction N F P is birth control

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463324 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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We do not want any child ABORTED...And an abortion fir selection of any trait OR SEX is REPULSIVE ..Bringing on NAZI images.
Eugenics is out of the puts of Helll
I betcha you wouldn't be thinking this if you were abducted by Ariel Castro.

Tell me Rose, why would you force a 14 yr old rape victim to carry an unwanted child?

To teach them a lesson - for their entire life? What would be that lesson?
- That it is okay to be raped and become pregnant, just so the child can be born?
- That the 14 yr old girl has no say in her life?

You and others like you are despicable.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#463325 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Sorry but NOT is birth control ..as well as condoms .
In this day and age for me the worse sin is abortion .
I'm with LTM on this .
Yes extramarital sex is wrong but it happens..
And even married people get abortions .
Just my opinion
Well, when the pope and others suggest that birth control is evil, there WILL be more abortions. That is common sense.

And extra-marital sex is wrong to some people but to swingers it is a man and wife agreeing that extra-marital sex is not cheating, but rather just a whole lot of fun.

It is not my choice at all, but I won't preach at them if they don't preach at me.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#463326 Jul 18, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Ahhh, those pesky humans, the world would be a much better place if they were eliminated.
It would sure give the non-human animals a break from all the bombs going off and the pollution caused by human greed ... yours and mine.
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463327 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Why would anyone worry about another person? Are those "leaders and followers" so perfect that they can "cast that first stone?" I think not.
No religion is required, still, huh? You only need you - to make the right choice for you - given that moment's circumstances and as long as your choice doesn't affect anyone else negatively.
- Of course the caveat is - if the choice is to do something good, then that is a good thing - because it was done through a form of love or kindness and one could very well help thousands with just one kind gesture.
People are insecure because they are dishonest with themselves. They are afraid to admit the truths that exist, only because it causes them to go against with only what they have only been informed of.
- their insecurities are of their own making - yeah June.....Self.
As for this portion of your response, and BTW - thanks for responding!.....
"the release of non-orthodox Nag-Hammadi(gnostic) writings, as opposed to accepted Christian writings(canonized)."
- the "release"?
+ You do realize, after 325 CE, Constantine and his "harem of bishops" put out an edict to suppress and destroy any texts that was not approved by the State - the NHLibrary texts are those texts that the 4th State of tyranny wanted destroyed, burned - GONE, so there wouldn't be anymore dissension within those specified ranks and the followers of the fledgling religion. They couldn't have people thinking about themselves, no way - they wanted them to "Need the Church" and all of its supposed glories.
They weren't released, they were rediscovered after 1500+ yrs of being hidden in a cave, which was originally done to ensure the information was to be conveyed....showing how wrong Christianity is today, and also showing how men have determined what you are to believe.
So called "Christians", in general live a ruse that they were fed too believe. Plain and simple. All of who deny this, are only lying to themselves and others.
Self.
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We all have "demons". Deal with them. You worry about yours, I'll worry about mine.
:o)
Darn tootin'- I love these old adages!!
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Christianity should not be changing its belief from century to century. One would not have to if one believes in all of what Jesus taught, and not just the piddly beginner level "parables" that men of many centuries ago, could only figure out.
- Unless, those men of centuries ago, had an agenda to control people, in a certain way. Looky-there - they succeeded.
*sighs*
New Age Spiritual Leader:

It all goes to uniformity of the message....To many "fiction" writers, be they sincere or not, suggesting spiritual truths, required some authentication process.

Whether you like it or not, that authentication process took place. I would suggest, that because they were nearer in time to the events and writings which took place, they were better able to filter what transpired in the canonization process.

Whether you agree with that process or not suggests more that you are open to reviewing what is taught, in the light of modern efforts to retrieve(although not entirely successful due to textual decay) the writings of those considered heretical at that time....
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463328 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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No I asked you if you believe the Pope to be infallible, not his teachings.
DOH!!
Just to continue avoiding it Anthony, you are just like every other Catholic I've ever spoken with - you'll put the spin on it, the way you choose, all the while avoiding the question with honesty.
I can understsnd your need to be in an organization that lies to its followers, you like it.
Do you believe the Pope is infallible?
I suspect you didn't understand what infallible means and when I showed you up you started back-tracking to save face.

And I'm not spinning anything, I'm giving you the Catholic definition of infallible. The pope IS infallible when he teaches definitively on faith and morals. He is not impeccable, he is not free from error in his personal opinions or personal actions.

Why don't you just tell me what you think infallible means and I'll tell you if it's the Catholic meaning. Sound good?
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463329 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are the one who claims to KNOW that a god exists and will take you off to heaven in a hereafter.
I am waiting to find out if truth even exists and I believe that if it does exist it doesn't exist because of what I believe, but rather it will show itself in its own due time.
June:

Wait. Wait. Wait.

I'm waiting.

Oh....Its already eternity, and your still waiting.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463330 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you don't kill homosexuals, you aren't following your bible.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.(NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)
Religion is BUNK!
They only want to follow what they think is relevant.

In other words they lie.

So-called "Christians" have a major problem with honesty.

Out of one side of their mouth they say, "The Bible is truth" - "It is God's word".

Then out of the other side of their mouth, they say, "Except that law by "God", it doesn't pertain to me, as it was only for the time.

And then out of another side of their mouth, they exclaim from the highest mountain, that the whole Bible is true.

They are afraid to admit these truths, because it destroys their belief.

They do as they are. Would you expect something less from liars?

It will be the downfall of this religion. I look forward to getting the liars off the street. Let them move it as an underground belief.

Maybe then they will realize their mistakes and own them by being truthful with others.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463331 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Well I don't seem to be getting much support for my opinions.
Untrue - I've been trying to help you cope.

But you are so - uhm - what's the word you used - oh yeah...."bored"....

;o)
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463332 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Do you believe that the Muslims preach truth, and if not ... why not???
They believe they preach truth, so you and your religion are nothing special ... except to you.
June:

IMHO, Islam is a heretical off-shoot teaching of Christianity, they employ both true and misguided beliefs within their religion.

Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463333 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Sorry but NOT is birth control ..as well as condoms .
In this day and age for me the worse sin is abortion .
I'm with LTM on this .
Yes extramarital sex is wrong but it happens..
And even married people get abortions .
Just my opinion
I have no idea what you're saying....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#463334 Jul 18, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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New Age Spiritual Leader:
It all goes to uniformity of the message....To many "fiction" writers, be they sincere or not, suggesting spiritual truths, required some authentication process.
Whether you like it or not, that authentication process took place. I would suggest, that because they were nearer in time to the events and writings which took place, they were better able to filter what transpired in the canonization process.
Whether you agree with that process or not suggests more that you are open to reviewing what is taught, in the light of modern efforts to retrieve(although not entirely successful due to textual decay) the writings of those considered heretical at that time....
...HB....it took people 200+ years to "authenticate"?

Why are you pandering to the ruse?
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463335 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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That's because you ARE lying.
You believe Catholicism owns the truth ... period ... and that you will be saved ... period ... and that hell is for others ... period!
June:

You keep asserting this without proof, or justification, therefore at best it is only an opinion.

It must be very difficult repeating yourself in order to be believed....

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463336 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I betcha you wouldn't be thinking this if you were abducted by Ariel Castro.
Tell me Rose, why would you force a 14 yr old rape victim to carry an unwanted child?
To teach them a lesson - for their entire life? What would be that lesson?
- That it is okay to be raped and become pregnant, just so the child can be born?
- That the 14 yr old girl has no say in her life?
You and others like you are despicable.
And killing a new life makes that horrid story better ..how??

Young girls on the street are taken by their pumps to Abortion clinics..

Where they find ways around notifying parents..ALOWWING FIRCED prostitution to continue.

Those clinic people may be the ONKY outside people those poor girls are allowed in contact with...

But as long as their pumps pay the bill..those girl jeep getting raped..keep getting MEDICAL INVASIVE procedures that may leave tem sterile.

AND I AM DESPICABLE..

they are aiding and abetting rapists and slave driver's.

All in the name if CHOICE!!!!!!!

That is worse than despicable ..it's criminal.

They catch one woman following their policies and scream oh no we will fire her ...it's nit what we do here.

Yet those little girls are getting abortions someplace.

But it's nit PC fir the authorities to monitor clinics.

Clinics they did NOT monitor. ON PURPOSE..like Gosnells.

Heaven forbid we upset the movement ....
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463337 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The fact that non-human animals that can't betray a god suffer horrible pain every day, ongoing, indicates that if there is an all-knowing, all-powerful creator ... that creator is TOTALLY responsible for the suffering.
There can be NO other REASON for the suffering of non-human animals, and that means the creator is definitely a sadist.
Religion is BUNK!
June:

You are responsible for evil. Why? Because you allow abortion/killing/suffering.

Prove to me I am wrong.

God said don't do it. You override God's command. You pay the price.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463338 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Anthony MN wrote:
The authority of the Church is not a trivial issue, to Catholics anyaway.
New Age wrote:
Just to keep you honest Anthony, you still haven't answered this request either.
Is there a problem?
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Why are Catholics so afraid to answer strraight forward questions that affect their belief, as you have done?
Please define the "authority of the Church" - who is this authority?
We already know that you don't belong to the "Church" because you don't believe in Jesus, but you will promote this so-called "Church", yet can't explain its authoritative construct.
Maybe you should learn more about the religion you tout, because you seem to be lacking understanding even in these simple questions.
You are a wonderful example of why people leave your religious beleif - you love to cause confusion within others, so they find it quite hard to believe you.
You aren't very credible.
""Please define the "authority of the Church""

"the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ's own authority."

"" - who is this authority?"

The pope and the bishops.

Anything else?
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463339 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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HOJO
I am telling decorated TO MARY.
Maybe you are calling it intercessory prayer now.
But we prayed to her.
we prayed to her
Obviously there are still prayers TO HER
http://catholicism.about.com/od/prayers/qt/Re...
This one asks for her mercy
FROM THE LIST in this page titled
Prayers TO the Virgin Mary
As,I said before ..I personally don't find prayers asking His mother for intercession. TO HER SON..
all that wrong ..probably because I grew up that way.
But Jesus IS TO BE our only intermediary to God .
And another question .
Is heresy something against the actual bible teaching ...or against the Catholic church
RoSezs:

Heresy, generally is a degree of inaccuracy from the Absolute Truth.

Since we all have sinned, and live in sinfulness(though we seek not to according to our consciences), we are all heretical to some degree.

Jesus, and the Holy Spirit guide us from our heretical ways to His Way, and sanctifies us into holiness....
Human Being

Chatham, LA

#463340 Jul 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I don't believe that at all. Religion is all based on fantasy, and if one group of truth-claimers just happened to hit the bulls eye of truth ... they wouldn't have a clue that it had happened, as fantasy shoots blanks from the darkness of human ignorance.
Human religionists are simply arrogant in their claims of knowing truth.
June:

Hmmm....And since you arrogantly claim you know the truth, that makes you a human religionist.

Sounds like your in denial.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463341 Jul 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
Correction N F P is birth control
No it's not.

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