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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 673026 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#463137 Jul 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I don't believe that at all. Religion is all based on fantasy, and if one group of truth-claimers just happened to hit the bulls eye of truth ... they wouldn't have a clue that it had happened, as fantasy shoots blanks from the darkness of human ignorance.
Human religionists are simply arrogant in their claims of knowing truth.
A truly biased statement. Not really related to the actuality I stated at all...
Maybe I should have said knowledgeable heretics...but then again, you hate the word "knowledgeable also....as you seem to believe that ignorance is bliss.
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#463138 Jul 17, 2013
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Discerning EVIL SPIRITS in TV Preachers

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#463139 Jul 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe that at all. Religion is all based on fantasy, and if one group of truth-claimers just happened to hit the bulls eye of truth ... they wouldn't have a clue that it had happened, as fantasy shoots blanks from the darkness of human ignorance.
Human religionists are simply arrogant in their claims of knowing truth.
You seem to know a lot of shit...
Let me ask you a very simple question....
When a bird poops, there is a white circle on the outside, and then a small black dot on the inside.
"WHAT" is the little black dot?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463140 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be doing a "pretty good job" of boasting, and bragging about the Orthodox Church and its history, yourself--as you believe it!........ I'm secure enough in my faith about Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church to "defend it" against many non-catholics on this forum who have an anti-catholic agenda, to preach heresy and spread false and distorted teachings in an attempt to undermine, TRUE CHURCH HISTORY and the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible..........unsuccessfully, I might add)!!
CLAY

WE ARE ALL THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.

You BELUEVE John Paul is a SAINT
Me too
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
We believe the same truth all translations
He believed we should be united ..never calling us anything but Christian
The main purpose of the VATICAN COUNCIL was was to reject the idea that Christ's Church rested SOLEY within the REV.
IT SAYS SO
http://vatican2voice.org/6unity/restore_unity...
You pray as you do..we pray as we do .
If we are Saved by belief in the same Lord Jesus who Said
IT IS FINISHED
WE believe John 3:16 to be fully true.
Why are we fighting
Why do many if you see us as second class hand wavers ...or however we have been portrayed here.
On another forum I have been told that we MUST CONVERT or we really are not Christian
That is NOT YOUR BLESSED POPES position
He seemed to want to forget who started the fight and get on with evangelizing the world as ONE FAITH.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#463141 Jul 17, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>

The Bible is sufficient...
Hogwash!! Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is sufficient! NOWHERE!! You "fundies" have "made this up" just like you do everything else and have decided this "on your own" that it is sufficient. Jesus Christs One True (Universal-Catholic) Church came first!! Then the Bible over 350 years after the death of Christ. I/we as Catholics ALL know and believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God but it is not the ONLY truth that God chose to transmit HIS divine Word. The Early Church Fathers/the Catholic Church translated the letters documents and manuscripts from the Apostles! It was the Catholic Church that "wrote the bible"! The Catholic Church also translated it! Confirmed by what Paul said in I Timothy 3:15 that THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.
truth

Perth, Australia

#463142 Jul 17, 2013
Are you victim of wicket satanic people?
What justice will say..they not exist.
Are you for sure they not cozy problems in the world?
They try ruin every person family and so on.

Did you know how many organization they have in place
town city?

Why they are not criminals?

Asked your corupt judges doctors teachers..how you call that..rule of darkness.

I just listening radio..klapanje=bla bla..they try defended themself how they are nice towards victims or person does metter which ones or family or anything else..they will describe as you wish as they drink cup of water..o yes on evil way where they serve.

Why law not exist for that evil organization?

Asked yourself..they say don't asked..they not there explain themself..buisness is buisness money is money..someone need be victim for them.
truth

Perth, Australia

#463143 Jul 17, 2013
try put camera in every institution from school hospitals and so on on invisible way ..they are superpower org as great evil accusers..toward childrens oldest people and so on..evil is evil..they going created job for themself..yes on very nice way..follow my instructions then you will see nice corupt wicket diploma..

follow instruction trough every nursing home surgery teather every document of kids too ..id..see
teach yourself ..id..record of birth and death=wo can who cant..
id birth=bir d=th bird
bird catcher trap
read nicly how they control and why our birth and death certificat..what they want declare on evil deelis satanic way=crime

bla bla=radio tv=corupt org=find out then you will see evil is real=its rest in mind of very nice dploma as well powerfull people who try control..yep

find then speak bla bla ..id birth and death record
find out what they know why they want destroy many=crime
talk talk talk bla bla on your corupt stupid radio
1/3 totaly demage and destroy life
1/3 just past but will be destroy..
1/3 going for how long"?"
bla bla talk nice corupt radio tv

nice lips
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

judge meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
no any cemetary exist
marge

Leesburg, GA

#463144 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Dust
You BELUEVE John Paul is a SAINT
Me too
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
We believe the same truth all translations
He believed we should be united ..never calling us anything but Christian
The main purpose of the VATICAN COUNCIL was was to reject the idea that Christ's Church rested SOLEY within the REV.
IT SAYS SO
http://vatican2voice.org/6unity/restore_unity...
You pray as you do..we pray as we do .
If we are Saved by belief in the same Lord Jesus who Said
IT IS FINISHED
WE believe John 3:16 to be fully true.
Why are we fighting
Why do many if you see us as second class hand wavers ...or however we have been portrayed here.
On another forum I have been told that we MUST CONVERT or we really are not Christian
That is NOT YOUR BLESSED POPES position
He seemed to want to forget who started the fight and get on with evangelizing the world as ONE FAITH.
Did John Paul the saint pray to Mary and the others dead saints too?

I know many saint's and none of them pray to our dearly departed brother and sister saints.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#463145 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash!! Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is sufficient! NOWHERE!! You "fundies" have "made this up" just like you do everything else and have decided this "on your own" that it is sufficient. Jesus Christs One True (Universal-Catholic) Church came first!! Then the Bible over 350 years after the death of Christ. I/we as Catholics ALL know and believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God but it is not the ONLY truth that God chose to transmit HIS divine Word. The Early Church Fathers/the Catholic Church translated the letters documents and manuscripts from the Apostles! It was the Catholic Church that "wrote the bible"! The Catholic Church also translated it! Confirmed by what Paul said in I Timothy 3:15 that THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.
Have you not heard the Bible is the Word?

Your listening to other men Hojo.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#463146 Jul 17, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Since I confronted you directly with your lie and gave the post number for all to see, I do not have to address any of the rest of your twisted post. I clearly showed your lack of knowledge of Church history in your comments re disagreeing with the Patriarchs. I do believe given these two factors that the Catholic Church is best for you.Its a perfect fit.
lol...There was no lie. You said several times before that you don't have to listen to listen to your Patriarchs as they are just men. I said maybe you can post your open letter to the Patriarchs. You did. Fantastic! God is the head of your church. Good for you as Catholics believe that he is the head of the church too and so do your Patriarchs. Ok, so if you believe they stray based on what you believe to be true and seperate then both of you will be claiming to be the church. The copts believe they have the truth. In our church we have schisms too. The Protestants believe they have the truth too. You didnt even bother to look at what your Patriarchs agreed to nor what the Catholic church agreed to.

Now the Monophyte, acasia, and all the groups that were labeled as heretics believed they had the truth and they didnt have to listen. Hey the Corinthians had a lot of problems too. Paul wrote to them. Pope Clement wrote to them to when they usurped their Bishop because they had truths. Montanists etc. So we could go back and forth and I can quote Fathers and show my case. For churches that did not even talk for hundreds of years I found it a good thing. So I did not lie when I said you don't have to listen to your Patriarchs if they dont agree with your truth. You made up your own truth in self delusion. That is not my problem.

"Because the statement of our Lord Jesus Christ, when He said,'Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will found my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, etc,' cannot be set aside; this, which is said, is ***proved by the results****; for in the Apostolic See (Rome) religion has always been preserved without spot ....In which (See) is set the perfect and true solidity of the Christian religion." ... "In the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been kept undefiled and her holy doctrine proclaimed. Desiring, therefore, not to be in the least degree separated from the faith and doctrine of that See, we hope that we may deserve to be in the one communion with you which the Apostolic See preaches, in which is the entire and true solidity of the Christian religion: promising also that the names of those who are cut off from the communion of the Catholic Church, that is, not consentient with the Apostolic See (Rome), shall not be recited during the Sacred Mysteries (i.e., the Liturgy). This is my profession, I have subscribed with my own hand, and delivered to you, Hormisdas, the holy and venerable Pope of the city of Rome."

(Formula Hormisdae Episc. Orient. Praescript Denzinger's Enchird. p. 42, ed. 1874) in Charles F.B. Allnatt, ed., Cathedra Petri --Titles and Prerogatives of St. Peter, London: Burns & Oates, 1879, 92 519 AD the healing of the Acasian schism

2500 Eastern Bishops signed it and it was reaffirmed and signed again by those who deposed Photius in 869 at constantinople council.

No I dont believe the Orthodox are the true Church. I do believe Christ founded one church. I do not believe its the Orthodox. I do not believe in an invisible church where everyone can teach or believe whatever truth they desire. I believe that is a sin to not try to settle differences. All one can do is tell what they believe. The Apostles argued for a while then shook their sandals.

Also Bishop Kallistos stated a position. If you read what he all has to say he goes through the various factions of Orthodoxy, but the Orothdox have changed. Im not here to condemn anyone to hell all thats coming from Certain Protestants. I said I want unity with truth. Yours is fixed.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#463147 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
CLAY
WE ARE ALL THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
You BELUEVE John Paul is a SAINT
Me too
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
We believe the same truth all translations
He believed we should be united ..never calling us anything but Christian
The main purpose of the VATICAN COUNCIL was was to reject the idea that Christ's Church rested SOLEY within the REV.
IT SAYS SO
http://vatican2voice.org/6unity/restore_unity...
You pray as you do..we pray as we do .
If we are Saved by belief in the same Lord Jesus who Said
IT IS FINISHED
WE believe John 3:16 to be fully true.
Why are we fighting
Why do many if you see us as second class hand wavers ...or however we have been portrayed here.
On another forum I have been told that we MUST CONVERT or we really are not Christian
That is NOT YOUR BLESSED POPES position
He seemed to want to forget who started the fight and get on with evangelizing the world as ONE FAITH.
When you can pronounce the unpronounceable name of the ALL, then you will have the correct name of the "faith".
Somehow, I don't believe "Christianity" is it.
If you read the preceding lines, you may understand what I stated.
It is self evident.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#463148 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I bow to my German friends. I'm not worshipping them, I'm showing respect for them.
You keep posting the lie. Still an expert liar aren't you?
Why are you not answering my question????? What does "bowing before a statue of Mary in worship" mean?????

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463149 Jul 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes ... especially the sacred secrecy of why babies have to suffer and die from starvation related diseases because Adam and Eve sinned.
And don't forget the secrecy of why non-human animals have to suffer when they don't have the wherewithal TO sin.
Religion is silly!
Hey June

here's,some churches you can go to happily

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/24/ca...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#463150 Jul 17, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you not answering my question????? What does "bowing before a statue of Mary in worship" mean?????
Prolly means that yer gonna git violated by a cathaholic priest.
That's what it means.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463151 Jul 17, 2013

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#463152 Jul 17, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...There was no lie. You said several times before that you don't have to listen to listen to your Patriarchs as they are just men. I said maybe you can post your open letter to the Patriarchs. You did. Fantastic! God is the head of your church. Good for you as Catholics believe that he is the head of the church too and so do your Patriarchs. Ok, so if you believe they stray based on what you believe to be true and seperate then both of you will be claiming to be the church. The copts believe they have the truth. In our church we have schisms too. The Protestants believe they have the truth too. You didnt even bother to look at what your Patriarchs agreed to nor what the Catholic church agreed to.
Now the Monophyte, acasia, and all the groups that were labeled as heretics believed they had the truth and they didnt have to listen. Hey the Corinthians had a lot of problems too. Paul wrote to them. Pope Clement wrote to them to when they usurped their Bishop because they had truths. Montanists etc. So we could go back and forth and I can quote Fathers and show my case. For churches that did not even talk for hundreds of years I found it a good thing. So I did not lie when I said you don't have to listen to your Patriarchs if they dont agree with your truth. You made up your own truth in self delusion. That is not my problem.
"Because the statement of our Lord Jesus Christ, when He said,'Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will found my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, etc,' cannot be set aside; this, which is said, is ***proved by the results****; for in the Apostolic See (Rome) religion has always been preserved without spot ....In which (See) is set the perfect and true solidity of the Christian religion." ... "In the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been kept undefiled and her holy doctrine proclaimed. Desiring, therefore, not to be in the least degree separated from the faith and doctrine of that See, we hope that we may deserve to be in the one communion with you which the Apostolic See preaches, in which is the entire and true solidity of the Christian religion: promising also that the names of those who are cut off from the communion of the Catholic Church, that is, not consentient with the Apostolic See (Rome), shall not be recited during the Sacred Mysteries (i.e., the Liturgy). This is my profession, I have subscribed with my own hand, and delivered to you, Hormisdas, the holy and venerable Pope of the city of Rome."
(Formula Hormisdae Episc. Orient. Praescript Denzinger's Enchird. p. 42, ed. 1874) in Charles F.B. Allnatt, ed., Cathedra Petri --Titles and Prerogatives of St. Peter, London: Burns & Oates, 1879, 92 519 AD the healing of the Acasian schism
2500 Eastern Bishops signed it and it was reaffirmed and signed again by those who deposed Photius in 869 at constantinople council.
No I dont believe the Orthodox are the true Church. I do believe Christ founded one church. I do not believe its the Orthodox. I do not believe in an invisible church where everyone can teach or believe whatever truth they desire. I believe that is a sin to not try to settle differences. All one can do is tell what they believe. The Apostles argued for a while then shook their sandals.
Also Bishop Kallistos stated a position. If you read what he all has to say he goes through the various factions of Orthodoxy, but the Orothdox have changed. Im not here to condemn anyone to hell all thats coming from Certain Protestants. I said I want unity with truth. Yours is fixed.
Since I confronted you directly with your lie and gave the post number for all to see, I do not have to address any of the rest of your twisted post. I clearly showed your lack of knowledge of Church history in your comments re disagreeing with the Patriarchs. I do believe given these two factors that the Catholic Church is best for you.Its a perfect fit.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#463153 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I bow to my German friends. I'm not worshipping them, I'm showing respect for them.
You keep posting the lie. Still an expert liar aren't you?
I have no need to lie to prove that catlicks worship Mary:

John Paul II worshipping Mary - Presents of God ministry
www.remnantofgod.org/jp2mary.htm&#8206 ;
POPEPRAYERTOMARY.jpg. Pope John Paul bowing before a statue of Mary in worship.(See below right pic as well). On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his ...
truth

Perth, Australia

#463154 Jul 17, 2013
cemetry not exist
no
why should be according you
then explain
why people who past away come back 3x live earthly life..
yes mostly they come back to family where they belong..

now
why oldest people target
tea and cooky

Whats deference between pill and pillow?
nurse
u=21=2+1=3=curse see
about what
put camera then you will see..where
in any institute where old people rest or need atention..childrens some
then you will see
Whats deference between pill and pillow?
who..nice diploma lips not going explain!
id
agent
age=muslim word for rule
see kva kva kva=bird sing song
square $quare=geometric shape symbol meccakuran kuare
every building see id see read pronaucment every word

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#463155 Jul 17, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...There was no lie. You said several times before that you don't have to listen to listen to your Patriarchs as they are just men. I said maybe you can post your open letter to the Patriarchs. You did. Fantastic! God is the head of your church. Good for you as Catholics believe that he is the head of the church too and so do your Patriarchs. Ok, so if you believe they stray based on what you believe to be true and seperate then both of you will be claiming to be the church. The copts believe they have the truth. In our church we have schisms too. The Protestants believe they have the truth too. You didnt even bother to look at what your Patriarchs agreed to nor what the Catholic church agreed to.
Now the Monophyte, acasia, and all the groups that were labeled as heretics believed they had the truth and they didnt have to listen. Hey the Corinthians had a lot of problems too. Paul wrote to them. Pope Clement wrote to them to when they usurped their Bishop because they had truths. Montanists etc. So we could go back and forth and I can quote Fathers and show my case. For churches that did not even talk for hundreds of years I found it a good thing. So I did not lie when I said you don't have to listen to your Patriarchs if they dont agree with your truth. You made up your own truth in self delusion. That is not my problem.
"Because the statement of our Lord Jesus Christ, when He said,'Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will found my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, etc,' cannot be set aside; this, which is said, is ***proved by the results****; for in the Apostolic See (Rome) religion has always been preserved without spot ....In which (See) is set the perfect and true solidity of the Christian religion." ... "In the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been kept undefiled and her holy doctrine proclaimed. Desiring, therefore, not to be in the least degree separated from the faith and doctrine of that See, we hope that we may deserve to be in the one communion with you which the Apostolic See preaches, in which is the entire and true solidity of the Christian religion: promising also that the names of those who are cut off from the communion of the Catholic Church, that is, not consentient with the Apostolic See (Rome), shall not be recited during the Sacred Mysteries (i.e., the Liturgy). This is my profession, I have subscribed with my own hand, and delivered to you, Hormisdas, the holy and venerable Pope of the city of Rome."
(Formula Hormisdae Episc. Orient. Praescript Denzinger's Enchird. p. 42, ed. 1874) in Charles F.B. Allnatt, ed., Cathedra Petri --Titles and Prerogatives of St. Peter, London: Burns & Oates, 1879, 92 519 AD the healing of the Acasian schism
2500 Eastern Bishops signed it and it was reaffirmed and signed again by those who deposed Photius in 869 at constantinople council.
No I dont believe the Orthodox are the true Church. I do believe Christ founded one church. I do not believe its the Orthodox. I do not believe in an invisible church where everyone can teach or believe whatever truth they desire. I believe that is a sin to not try to settle differences. All one can do is tell what they believe. The Apostles argued for a while then shook their sandals.
Also Bishop Kallistos stated a position. If you read what he all has to say he goes through the various factions of Orthodoxy, but the Orothdox have changed. Im not here to condemn anyone to hell all thats coming from Certain Protestants. I said I want unity with truth. Yours is fixed.
How about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a beer?

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#463157 Jul 17, 2013
For anyone that wasnt here I provided very long posts re the difference between the Patriarchs and the Pope/Bishops re their authority. The people of the Church are seen as part of the Church along with the Bishop, Priest, Metro, Patriarch etc.They can disagree with the Patriarchs.I also explained that in the early Ortho Church the Councils would check their with the people because they felt the people were perhaps even the best source of the Faith as handed down.When Dust called me a heretic for stating I do not have to agree with the Patriarchs ion everything. This proved he knew nothing of our history.I provided posts re the conciliar (Ortho) v Monarchal (Cath) organization of the Church. He deliberately misquotes, lies, twists, spins, and remakes history. I confronted him directly re 2 lies with post numbers. This does not stop him.There is no way to respond to someone like this when they keep chugging away even when confronted directly with lies and misquotes.

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