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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 681608 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#462748 Jul 16, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-20
"If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15
Did he really speak in archaic English?

What was he thinking?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462749 Jul 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Oxbow"
A Christian would answer these questions in less than a nano second...evidently you can't:
Does this verse teach Christ is God: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Do you agree with the following teaching, that is supported by Scripture???
SBC:
Christ is the eternal Son of God. In His incarnation as Jesus Christ He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus perfectly revealed and did the will of God, taking upon Himself human nature with its demands and necessities and identifying Himself completely with mankind yet without sin...
And: The Catholics:
Jesus Christ, the incarnate Son of God...redeemer of the human Race..
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I'm getting concerned for you. This 'thought' is in no way related to my post.
KayMarie
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Ah await your response...does this verse say that Jesus Christ is God??????!!!!

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#462750 Jul 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
....
Unless you have a GM or Toyota "Popemobile". Do you?
....
I have a Honda Chessmobile.

That ride is sweet.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#462751 Jul 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Ah await your response...does this verse say that Jesus Christ is God??????!!!!
Hasn't anyone drawn blood yet in this silly theology fight?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#462752 Jul 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="hojo"
Thanks for you comments KayMarie, The fact is that sola scriptura does not avoid "wild teachings" contradiction and inconsistencies, regarding doctrine and bible interpretation......... It has only "multiplied and complicated the problem of interpretation..... The thousands and thousands of Protestant conflicting denomination and doctrine of beliefs (since the Reformation) PROVE THIS TO BE THE CASE......... This is exactly why (again) Paul says in I Timothy 3:15 that the CHURCH (bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH! If there is a contradiction, inconsistency, difference of opinion,or conflict we are told to "take it to the Church"!! Hope things are well with you!!
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I'm doing pretty good for an old fossil, thank you. God has blessed me.
I do not believe that Sola Scripture has complicated matters...matters which existed before the compilation of the Bible. If only one 'church' were allowed to exist in this world, that 'matter' would still be a problem.
The CC has been in existence for a long while, but it has not been without internal problems. WHY? Because it is administrated by men...who are in different stages of understanding.
Many Protestant churches are not different at all...just have different names due to location, and/or the families that built them.
Jesus prayed that we might all BE one, not that we might all join one group. I have Christian brothers and sisters (who agree in spirit with me) all over the world. Their churches have different names; some don't baptize in the same way, or have some other minor differences.(Sprinkle, submerge, etc.)
KayMarie
Thanks KayMarie! Regarding the "complicating" of the various interpretations of sola scriptura beliefs, all one has to do is look at the various bible only contradictions of interpretations that have taken place today, which continue to divide, splinter and split the Protestant Churches,(even more) with abortion, gay marriage, euthenasia, embroyonic stem cell research, homosexual ministers, etc.......... I will admit that the Protestant Reformation has helped the Catholic Church redirect itself, more into the Sacred Scripture and that is not to say that it wasn't before........ I have seen more bible studies in the Catholic Church than ever before and that is good thing! I have also seen a bigger division and a wider split, among the Protestant Churches, in forming new denominations because of conflicting bible (misinterpretations. That is why the bible directs ua outside itself, in order to interpret itself in order to assure that it is properly interpreted!! Gods Blessing!!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462753 Jul 16, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
While I was a child, my parents tried to keep Sunday holy by going to church. We were not allowed to play games out on the front lawn or attend sports. We never bought anything from a dairy or shop and seldom went in the car. Dad never did business. He was a builder and draughted house plans and built the homes.
My parents' tradition was to keep Sunday thinking it was the Sabbath but probably being ignorant of the Bible truth about Sabbath keeping and what the Sabbath is. They knew it's origin was in the Ten Commandments but that was all.
I find it incredible that most Christians do honour a day of worship but some say they worship God EVERY day.
That is not keeping the fourth commandment. If they abstain from work (as detailed in Exodus 20) EVERY day then the are just plain LAZY.
It is a common, but not a substantiated argument that the Ten Commandments were nailed to the cross.
However, if this is true, then whatever happens to the fourth commandment also happens to the other nine!
“For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said,‘Do not commit adultery,’ also said,‘Do not murder.’ If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.”(James 2:10, 11)
If we do away with the fourth commandment that declares the seventh day to be a holy day, then the seventh commandment that says adultery is wrong must be void as well.
Paul wrote,“What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said,‘Do not covet.’”(Romans 7:7)
Baptism absolutely does not make the fourth commandment null and void.
Jesus was baptized at the beginning of His ministry and He faithfully observed the Sabbath afterwards!( Luke 4:16; Mark 2:27,28)
If it is your TRADITION to keep Sunday, you are not honouring God.
(1 John 2:3-6 NIV) We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what He commands is a LIAR and the truth is NOT in him.
But if anyone obeys His word, God's love is truly made complete in him.
This is how we know we are in Him: Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.
What does Colossians (sp) 2:16 mean to you when it comes to judging people for not observing the Sabbath?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#462754 Jul 16, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
'The fact is that sola scriptura does not avoid "wild teachings" contradiction and inconsistencies, regarding doctrine and bible interpretation.'
Yes it does! If your church does not use the Bible alone your in the wrong church.
NO WHERE in the Bible does it say that God chose to transmit HIS divine and inspired word--ONLY in the Bible. Jesus Christ gave us HIS One True (Universal-Catholic) Church. He never said "anything" about leaving us a bible! But HE did say, He was leaving us HIS CHURCH in Matthew 16:13-21. Paul confirms it in I Timothy 3:15 when he call THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.---In addition--"where do Jesus, the Apostles or Paul say ANYWHERE that "if the Church does not use the bible alone it is the wrong Church. Marge--you are a "typical bible only Protestant, that just "makes things up" to fit your sola scriptura beliefs!! It was the Catholic Church that gave us the bible, and it is the Catholic Church that "correctly interprets it" NOT your 42,000 inconsistent, contradicting and conflicting Protestant denominations that continue to splinter, fracture and divide the Body of Christ and the Body of Believers!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462755 Jul 16, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Still playing your bible only "distorted" editorialized opinion games Confrinting!!!
Jesus said (in John 6:47-59) For unless you eat my body (which is real food) and DRINK MY BLOOD (which is real drink) you CANNOT have eternal life!! You are deceiving "no one" but yourself!!!
Not all Catholics swallow that swill!!!!!

Eucharist and Belief in the Real Presence

Nine in ten weekly Mass attendees (91 percent) say they believe that Jesus Christ is really present in the Eucharist, compared to two-thirds of those who attend Mass less than weekly but at least once a month (65 percent), and four in ten of those attending Mass a few times a year or less (40 percent).

Plus: That teaching of drinking the actual blood of Christ contradicts:

That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Which shows a fallible Bible...which it is not....



“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#462756 Jul 16, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Also do you understand what a HIGH SABBATH is? A high Sabbath can fall on any day of the week. The holy days Israel was ordered to observe etc are all HIGH SABBATH DAYS. They can fall on any day of the week.
Sorry convoluted

He had Passover supper..
The authorities snuck about..took him on Passover night into the morning before SABBATH started

He died before SABBATH ..they buried Him before SABBATH started..

They returned to finish the announcing on the morning after the SABBATH .

How many more references to SABBATH do you need

He had supper Thursday night ..they killed Him on Friday ..made sure He was dead ..git Him buried all on Friday.

He rose sometime early on the Third day SUNDAY...

as,I say ..You are trying to reach a wrong destination through twiste
d roads,

He arose the day AFTER the SABBATH was,over ..Sunday morning ..

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462757 Jul 16, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks KayMarie! Regarding the "complicating" of the various interpretations of sola scriptura beliefs, all one has to do is look at the various bible only contradictions of interpretations that have taken place today, which continue to divide, splinter and split the Protestant Churches,(even more) with abortion, gay marriage, euthenasia, embroyonic stem cell research, homosexual ministers, etc.......... I will admit that the Protestant Reformation has helped the Catholic Church redirect itself, more into the Sacred Scripture and that is not to say that it wasn't before........ I have seen more bible studies in the Catholic Church than ever before and that is good thing! I have also seen a bigger division and a wider split, among the Protestant Churches, in forming new denominations because of conflicting bible (misinterpretations. That is why the bible directs ua outside itself, in order to interpret itself in order to assure that it is properly interpreted!! Gods Blessing!!
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Message: Since Scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and God is perfect, cannot make any errors, that proves that it is infallible...sufficient...noth ing else is needed..

Message: Only Scripture is needed for the man of God to be perfect, thoroughly finished unto good works....If he needs more, he is not the man of God, was not called by God, nor is he perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#462758 Jul 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The mud is in your brain.
The idea that a god will love you and believe you are even more worthy of heaven if you call women who have abortions "murderers" ... is about as stupid as stupid gets.
Here June. This is perfect for you that stand for nothing and fall for anything

http://livinginterfaith.org/

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462759 Jul 16, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
NO WHERE in the Bible does it say that God chose to transmit HIS divine and inspired word--ONLY in the Bible. Jesus Christ gave us HIS One True (Universal-Catholic) Church. He never said "anything" about leaving us a bible! But HE did say, He was leaving us HIS CHURCH in Matthew 16:13-21. Paul confirms it in I Timothy 3:15 when he call THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.---In addition--"where do Jesus, the Apostles or Paul say ANYWHERE that "if the Church does not use the bible alone it is the wrong Church. Marge--you are a "typical bible only Protestant, that just "makes things up" to fit your sola scriptura beliefs!! It was the Catholic Church that gave us the bible, and it is the Catholic Church that "correctly interprets it" NOT your 42,000 inconsistent, contradicting and conflicting Protestant denominations that continue to splinter, fracture and divide the Body of Christ and the Body of Believers!!
First of all...the Catholic cult is a denomination of Christianity...Christ built no denomination...

And:
Catholics are forever trying to sell to the world, the idea that Christ, a Jew, and His 12 Jewish apostles, during the time that Christ was on earth, established the Roman Catholic Church, that everyone knows, that even as of today, is for Gentiles and not Jews!!!! To believe that you have to believe that Christ abandoned God's chosen ones!!!!

Quote: After excerpts from the second volume of the pope’s book on Jesus made the rounds last week, featuring his rejection of the idea that “the Jews” killed Christ, the full text adds another point with important implications for Christian/Jewish relations -- in effect, that Christianity “must not concern herself with the conversion of the Jews.”

The comment comes in Benedict XVI’s book Jesus of Nazareth: Holy Week, the full text of which was released today.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462760 Jul 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Message: Since Scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and God is perfect, cannot make any errors, that proves that it is infallible...sufficient...noth ing else is needed..
Message: Only Scripture is needed for the man of God to be perfect, thoroughly finished unto good works....If he needs more, he is not the man of God, was not called by God, nor is he perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
And: Catholics have the gall to teach that Christ is the redeemer of the human Race...and as such hid from all, except the Catholics, traditions, that they and they alone possess that gives them insight that they and they alone have access to!!!!!!!!!!
truth

Embleton, Australia

#462761 Jul 16, 2013
your law is not my law ..never will be

it is written
righteousness people is abuse assult accuse prosecuted prison and killed..

its written

cemetery is full everywhere and prison too..

you not honor me not love me
its lips nothing else

byyyyyyyyy

don't cry when i died

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462762 Jul 16, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry convoluted
He had Passover supper..
The authorities snuck about..took him on Passover night into the morning before SABBATH started
He died before SABBATH ..they buried Him before SABBATH started..
They returned to finish the announcing on the morning after the SABBATH .
How many more references to SABBATH do you need
He had supper Thursday night ..they killed Him on Friday ..made sure He was dead ..git Him buried all on Friday.
He rose sometime early on the Third day SUNDAY...
as,I say ..You are trying to reach a wrong destination through twiste
d roads,
He arose the day AFTER the SABBATH was,over ..Sunday morning ..
You're thoroughly confused aren't you? Christ Himself stated that He wold be in the grave for THREE DAYS and for THREE NIGHTS. Now perhaps you didn't do well in math in school so you aren't able to count three days and three nights but I was an A student in math and where I come from friday till sunday morning DOES NOT equal three days and three nights.

Maybe where you went to school they accept substandard performance in math but where I come from the standards for math performance were demanding. Friday till sunday is not thre days and three nights.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462763 Jul 16, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry convoluted
He had Passover supper..
The authorities snuck about..took him on Passover night into the morning before SABBATH started
He died before SABBATH ..they buried Him before SABBATH started..
They returned to finish the announcing on the morning after the SABBATH .
How many more references to SABBATH do you need
He had supper Thursday night ..they killed Him on Friday ..made sure He was dead ..git Him buried all on Friday.
He rose sometime early on the Third day SUNDAY...
as,I say ..You are trying to reach a wrong destination through twiste
d roads,
He arose the day AFTER the SABBATH was,over ..Sunday morning ..
If Christ stated He would be in the heart of the earth for THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS

http://www.biblestudytools.com/search/...

how do you get three days and three nights out of friday till sunday morning? Answer: YOU CAN'T.

Again in another part of scripture it stated that He would rise..........AFTER THE THIRD DAY. How do you get three days and three nights from friday till sunday morning. Ypus Christians should be ashamed for not being able to count.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#462764 Jul 16, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry convoluted
He had Passover supper..
The authorities snuck about..took him on Passover night into the morning before SABBATH started
He died before SABBATH ..they buried Him before SABBATH started..
They returned to finish the announcing on the morning after the SABBATH .
How many more references to SABBATH do you need
He had supper Thursday night ..they killed Him on Friday ..made sure He was dead ..git Him buried all on Friday.
He rose sometime early on the Third day SUNDAY...
as,I say ..You are trying to reach a wrong destination through twiste
d roads,
He arose the day AFTER the SABBATH was,over ..Sunday morning ..
Jesus was crucified on Friday because they had to take the body down before the Sabbath. The Sabbath always falls on Friday evening at sunset — no exceptions. John 19:31

Jewish time measurement of the first century measured days differently than we in the West that have traditionally a strict 24-hour period.

Jews reckoned any part of a day as a full day. This Hebraic concept was called the “Onah.” And Jewish days were measured from sunset to sunset.

That said, Thursday sunset to Friday sunset would be one day. Friday sunset to Saturday sunset would be the second day. Saturday sunset to Sunday morning, though half a day, would be the considered a full day — the third day.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462765 Jul 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus was crucified on Friday because they had to take the body down before the Sabbath. The Sabbath always falls on Friday evening at sunset — no exceptions. John 19:31
Jewish time measurement of the first century measured days differently than we in the West that have traditionally a strict 24-hour period.
Jews reckoned any part of a day as a full day. This Hebraic concept was called the “Onah.” And Jewish days were measured from sunset to sunset.
That said, Thursday sunset to Friday sunset would be one day. Friday sunset to Saturday sunset would be the second day. Saturday sunset to Sunday morning, though half a day, would be the considered a full day — the third day.
Indeed they did have to take Christ'sbody down before the Sabbath but what you fail to realize is that IT WAS NOT THE WEEKLY SABBATH but a HIGH SABBATH which can fall on any day of the week and it just so happened that it was a wednesday. The HIGH SABBATH was about to take place that evening on a wednesday.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462766 Jul 16, 2013
who="Oxbow"
Jesus was crucified on Friday because they had to take the body down before the Sabbath. The Sabbath always falls on Friday evening at sunset — no exceptions. John 19:31
Jewish time measurement of the first century measured days differently than we in the West that have traditionally a strict 24-hour period.
Jews reckoned any part of a day as a full day. This Hebraic concept was called the “Onah.” And Jewish days were measured from sunset to sunset.
That said, Thursday sunset to Friday sunset would be one day. Friday sunset to Saturday sunset would be the second day. Saturday sunset to Sunday morning, though half a day, would be the considered a full day — the third day.

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Passover was not kept on a week-day as a regular sixth day sabbath. It was kept on the 14th day of the first month of the year...thus it might be on a different day of the week from year to year.(Ex.12 and Num. 9)

Thursday crucifixion...Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night (three nights) in the tomb. Resurrection on the first day of the week...or Sunday.

KayMarie
truth

Embleton, Australia

#462767 Jul 16, 2013
where is that formula about love..
did he really say about love commandments..
yeppppppppp

now
if jesus go olontery someone say not then explain..calendar..old and new in deference priod history..see every geometric line as astro
why
my mind is not yours

nk

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