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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599911 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462416 Jul 15, 2013
who="RoSesz"
Is this the poster who wanted you to prove
.when we were praying..That prayer does not work .
That is not a serious request .
And Imho ..you are as find a Christian as I have met .
**********

Please keep up the prayer time. We once had a relative who was confined to an institution. He recognized no one. The doctor was making arrangements to 'throw away the key'.

We had a prayer time set for 6 p.m. Some family attempted to visit, but were denied. The doctor said that it was useless.

They returned to their motel room, but at ten minutes after 6, the doctor called the motel, telling them to return. The next morning they left that hospital with our relative, who soon returned to work, driving a truck.

KayMarie

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#462417 Jul 15, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
There is nothing honest that comes out of either of their mouths. From the beginning they tried pretend under different names and they were exposed. Herme had a hissy fit when I exposed them, because I could smell the dishonesty. They both lie when they say it doesnt matter what people say as it doesnt bother them. Clearly they are both bothered so add that to the list of lies. Then when information is posted on the facts on abuse which neither of them can back their claims the non liar of the group wonders how you can buy candy coated information posted from secular news sites but clearly performers who helped with a charity are doing a strip tease for the pope because they took off their shirts which they always do and yes in part for the saftey of the incredible stunts they perform. They did get alot of publicity though with headlines like Pope Gawks at topless dancers. lol So stupid, but people who want to malign the church will use anything they can and the people who want to believe it will eat it up.
Herme has a problem with the Orthodox church saying it is the true church. Apparently she doesnt as she has said it, but hey the Protestants wont say anything as long as they are goading Catholics they are buddies. lol They are idol worshipping, Mary Worshipping Heathens who talk to dead people and have nothing but homos in their church because if they listened to Gif their buddy who attacks the church daily then he is attacking their beliefs, but hey doesnt bother Gif nor Hermetics. Lots of Orthodox would call Herme a heretic no problem. Oh yes he is an expert on the faith that is why he posts uncredible and unsourced links, some of which are obviously Protestant. lol
I posted links concerning talks, what was discovered and agreed upon. I asked them to read what their Patriarchs were saying. They did not bother. I posted links on very good discussions on problems which Herme said he would read. He never did, he just went off and twisted and distorted and made up what he wanted throwing a tantrum and saying poor me the Catholics are picking on me. Like the true shcolar he is he couldnt answer. I posted Orthodox links. He threw deeper tantrums. He blasted Fr. Dye and then apologized for a conversation he inserted himself into and attacked it as anti-Orthodox. The discussions were on disagreements with no hostility all of it came from him. Noone attacked the Orthodox but he felt a need to attack the Pope and belittle the discussions because he already has his own truth and there is no room for more. BOth of them are disingenous people and neither of them is honest and clearly not knowledgeable nor have any room for seeking any clarity. The protestants dont care nor do they believe the Orthodox has the true church. I could go into the Orthodox problems alot but what fruit? Herme has already proclaimed he doesnt have to listen to a Patriarch and he wont. He has proclaimed he doesnt want unity. Therefore he does not want what the leaders of the two churches recognized Christ in saying he prayed that we be one. Abortion to the truth.
Dustie you need to dust the lies off of yourself and go to confession.Everything you claim on this post is all lies and twisted.The only people on this forum that are throwing hissy fits are you catholics. And if you want to talking about someone using more than one name try pointing the finger at your buddie.She had three names all at once attacking me at the same time..How nuts is that....Post what ever you want about the orthodox church I wanna know whats going on...Post away Baby! And hermi and I never said that WE believe the Orthodox believe they are the true church. WE said that the Orthodox believe this to be true...okie dokie...hope you got it right this time.....one more thing...everything you say about us is what YOU are feeling....YOUR easy to read!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#462418 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sera, you did say that the abuse is a Catholic thing, "that's why its in the news" if I remember your words correctly.
Look, I really ain't interested in he said she said. I know what you are about and I don't feel the need to go back two months to publicly rebuke you. Ill let your conscience be between you and God. He knows if you're deliberately trying to smear the Church with deceptive tactics. He knows if you really said the abuse problem is a Catholic thing and now you deny saying it.
Just leave it at that.
What are you talking about?
YOUR church IS an abomination.

IT IS WHAT IT IS!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462419 Jul 15, 2013
Many people have prayed and prayed and prayed for a "god" to take them home and relieve them of their horrendous suffering.

A woman recently shared with me how her husband had suffered severe bouts of depression over the years and threatened to commit suicide on more than one occasion.

When he found out he had cancer all through him he was relieved, because then he COULD die and escape his severe emotional suffering.

I observed a man trapped in his useless pain-manufacturing body for over twenty years, praying a god would take him home.

Merciful god??? I think NOT!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462420 Jul 15, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
So you honestly think God answers every prayer YES. LOL.
Maybe you missed the part about me not believing in the existence of a god ... yours or any other imaginary gods.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#462421 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
you said
"my intent was to show the lack of respect to the vicar of Christ"
No that was not your intent. You posted that video to Hojo under the headline, "Does this look like the true Church, lol!"
Your intent was to smear the CC by making it look like the Pope and Cardinals were participating in something inappropriate. That's why you headlined it in a mockery fashion- even using the 'lol' abbreviation to show you were 'laughing out loud'.
Well, then the intent was absolutely appropriate!
HELLO?!
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#462422 Jul 15, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> http://queeringthechurch.com/2011/01/11/pope-...
you really believe that this is the TRUE CHURCH of CHRIST! lol
Not only do I believe it---But I KNOW IT! And so does every Catholic on this forum (Clay, Anthony, Regina included.. and on and on)--and that also includes the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world!...The above "trash article" source that you "dug up" refers to a bunch of Prodigal son liberals that are rebellious and defiant to the TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, with one purpose in mind!! Promoting their immoral and perverted homosexual agenda, which is nothing new to the Catholic Church.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462423 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="RoSesz"
Is this the poster who wanted you to prove
.when we were praying..That prayer does not work .
That is not a serious request .
And Imho ..you are as find a Christian as I have met .
**********
Please keep up the prayer time. We once had a relative who was confined to an institution. He recognized no one. The doctor was making arrangements to 'throw away the key'.
We had a prayer time set for 6 p.m. Some family attempted to visit, but were denied. The doctor said that it was useless.
They returned to their motel room, but at ten minutes after 6, the doctor called the motel, telling them to return. The next morning they left that hospital with our relative, who soon returned to work, driving a truck.
KayMarie
So you are certain your prayers were answered, and yet the prayers to save all those babies from starvation every day are ignored by the same god???

You are a selfish fool!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#462424 Jul 15, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Hilarious how people use scriptures to make others appear as ignorant ... when the way I perceive the issue is, we are all ignorant.
No. some are more ignorant than others...usually by their own choice or laziness.
I have little respect for those that profess that knowledge, and can not display it.
It is what it is.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462425 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
I fully get it that you believe I am evil and you are holy ... but do you also believe I am ignorant and you are wise???

Please ... do share your humble attitude.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462426 Jul 15, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only do I believe it---But I KNOW IT!
:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462427 Jul 15, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
So you honestly think God answers every prayer YES. LOL.
Do you believe that there is a goddess who loves everybody without any conditions placed on her love???

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#462428 Jul 15, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Dustie you need to dust the lies off of yourself and go to confession.Everything you claim on this post is all lies and twisted.The only people on this forum that are throwing hissy fits are you catholics. And if you want to talking about someone using more than one name try pointing the finger at your buddie.She had three names all at once attacking me at the same time..How nuts is that....Post what ever you want about the orthodox church I wanna know whats going on...Post away Baby! And hermi and I never said that WE believe the Orthodox believe they are the true church. WE said that the Orthodox believe this to be true...okie dokie...hope you got it right this time.....one more thing...everything you say about us is what YOU are feeling....YOUR easy to read!
First...you must understand that "dusty:" is a hate filled pervert.....one of the most ugly I have ever encountered.
I will leave it at that for now....but if incited to such a degre, i reckon I could sharpen up mu trusty double edged sword to commit murder(again).

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#462429 Jul 15, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only do I believe it---But I KNOW IT! And so does every Catholic on this forum (Clay, Anthony, Regina included.. and on and on)--and that also includes the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world!...The above "trash article" source that you "dug up" refers to a bunch of Prodigal son liberals that are rebellious and defiant to the TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, with one purpose in mind!! Promoting their immoral and perverted homosexual agenda, which is nothing new to the Catholic Church.
Do you know that that statement and 50 cents probably couldn't even buy me a cup of coffey?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462430 Jul 15, 2013
who="Clay "
Also, you teach that Constantine changed the Sabbath to coincide with the pagan Sun god worship. That's not true.
I wish you Jehovah's and SDA would be more mindful of the serious implications that comes with deliberately spreading falsehoods. You're religion is not of God because you rely on deception in order to exist.
we talked last time about this. you completely ignored the evidence I provided that showed Constantine could not have changed the Sabbath. Christian writings 200 yrs before him clearly shows he didn't.
**********

Jesus did some of His best work on the Sabbath day, and declared that He was Lord of the Sabbath. He said that man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was made for man.

Paul later says that we are not to let anyone judge us concerning 'holy days', or of the sabbath days.

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judges another man's servant? to his own master he stands or falls. Yea, he shall be held up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Worship God EVERY DAY, and don't condemn others if they don't "do it like you do".

Jesus said, "I did not come to condemn the world."

KayMarie
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#462431 Jul 15, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't like links ..But I know about the Eucharist ..glad they do water the wine.
The O P was posting about in Ireland the priests were opposing
A new legal limit fir alcohol ..in case they could not get home after mass.
This seemed dilly to me. As I never saw them gulp it down like water.
Which then to.me brought up.the question ..I know they have wafers left over and keep them in the tabernacle..ok do what do they do with leftover consecrated wine. Must they drink it themselves.I'd that why they worried over lowering the limits..
And twice I asked CatHolics to comment..not give Mr Red printed links I can't were or a video discussing the benefits of the Eucharist
The second poster finally made his point ..as if the wine and bread are changed in substance why w would it be alcoholic at all.
Now we both know it still.tastes like wine..But I was curious ad his question for him actually made a bit of sense sort of
Ok, the priest normally prepares enough so that it will most all be consumed. Provided there is any left yes they consume it. We believe it should be treated with respect. There are protestant churches who also consume any remaining. Now the priest may invite others to consume remaining if there is too much. However on this very thread Kay Marie accused a server of hiding behind a curtain where she thought nobody would see and gulped the wined down. lol

Now what this new limit is I dont know nor do I know the reason it is opposed. I just dont want it to evolve into a Catholic bashing session where its see its WINE! Its not the blood of Christ! They Drank Grape Juice or Priests dont put water in it because they are all alchoholics. The accusations are endless.

I merely posted the links for further clarification of how Jews used wine at passover. The 4 cups. Adding water as well. I know that many people do not know the Jewish traditions or Catholic ones.

Dr. Hahn gives one of the best presentations on the 4th cup I have ever heard. I gave you the transcript on it (red) sorry not my choice, but if scroll over it then it turns blue or video. Whether one chooses to believe it is symbolic or becomes the precious blood of Christ spiritually in a way we cannot fully understand. The significants of the 4th cup and the events transpiring that night are brought out. My hope was that you would consider it and reflect on it as Dr. Hahn as a militant anti-catholic approaches it with a respectful view and how he as a Protestant viewed it.

Going through the motions, showing up at mass once a year and not understanding the faith, history or deeper understandings and knowledge of the teachings of the Early Fathers can lead some people to say they are Catholic or were a Catholic. Understaning why you believe something or the reason why something is believed one has to put in some effort. Many misconceptions can occur by others, but if I wanted to know for sure what a church taught and why I would go to a credible source of that church not go out and listen to the opinions of vast field of misinformation.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462432 Jul 15, 2013
who="June VanDerMark"
I already tempted your supposed god several times to strike me dead at that moment if the god lives so that it would prove to all of you one way or the other ... and nothing happened.
That ought to have been a "sign" to you that your religion is a joke.
Why do think your supposed god passed up such a chance to show you that "he" lives???
OH Wait for this story! It ought to be a dandy.

**********

God is only showing to all of us how great is His mercy. He doesn't have to do your bidding to prove Himself alive.

KayMarie
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#462433 Jul 15, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Dustie you need to dust the lies off of yourself and go to confession.Everything you claim on this post is all lies and twisted.The only people on this forum that are throwing hissy fits are you catholics. And if you want to talking about someone using more than one name try pointing the finger at your buddie.She had three names all at once attacking me at the same time..How nuts is that....Post what ever you want about the orthodox church I wanna know whats going on...Post away Baby! And hermi and I never said that WE believe the Orthodox believe they are the true church. WE said that the Orthodox believe this to be true...okie dokie...hope you got it right this time.....one more thing...everything you say about us is what YOU are feeling....YOUR easy to read!
Yawn...You cant remember all your lies.

This is a chapter from The Non-Orthodox: The Orthodox Teaching on
Christians Outside of the Church. This
book was originally published in 1999 by Regina Orthodox Press in
Salisbury, MA (Frank Schaeffer’s
publishing house).
In The Orthodox Church, Bishop Kallistos makes some wholly Orthodox
statements
concerning the nature of the Church and salvation. Among them are the
following:
Orthodoxy also teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation.
This belief has the same basis
as the Orthodox belief in the unbreakable unity of the Church: if follows
from the close
relation between God and His Church.“A person cannot have God as His
Father if he does
not have the Church as his Mother.” So wrote Saint Cyprian; and to him
this seemed an
evident truth, because he could not think of God and the Church apart
from one another.
God is salvation, and God’s saving power is mediated to humans in His
Body, the Church.”
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus. All the categorical strength and point of
this aphorism lies in its
tautology. Outside the Church there is no salvation because salvation is
the Church.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462434 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know there is talk amongst psychologist, about diagnosing religious fanatics as having a certain level of mental illness? I think I saw one story about it here on Topics last week.
There is a point where a guy like me just throws in the towel because I'm dealing with mind boggling ignorance from you.
Keep Saturday Holy if you want. I could care less. As a Catholic I'm going to continue gathering with my breathern on Sunday to celebrate the Holy Mass like the Apostles commanded; the day the Lord rose is Sunday. Sunday was established long before the Council of Laodicea proclaimed it official.
People like you forced the Church to hold council because you go around preaching false Christianitys. Then, when the Church publicly reaffirms certain teachings at these councils (like Sabbath worship), you turn around and stab them in the back, saying: "see everyone, the Roman Catholic Church just invented another doctrine Blah Blah".
~~~

You wrote

"The Roman Catholic Church just invented another doctrine Blah Blah".

The first event was when the Roman Catholic protestant Church

invented itself...

Since then there has been a whole bunch of modification to that

invention...

Til there is little or no similarity to what was the original early Church.

Like a witches brew....

Each pope has added something to the boiling caldron...

depositing his own ingredient....until the substance is so adulterated

that the true Christian identity is obliterated and no scriptural truth

remains.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#462435 Jul 15, 2013
who="Clay "]<quoted text>
You say the Roman Catholic Church established Sunday as the new Sabbath to coincide with the worship of the Sun god?
How come we can prove that Sunday was observed from the earliest possible inception of Christianity. The early Church wrote about it- 275 yrs before Constantine?
Now that you have been told this truth (of course, you were already shown your error last time, but you ignored it) are you going to cease spreading this lie?
Confrinting with some of the word, Preston, Chuck, what day to you guys observe and why? Tiger picked up a Bible just like you. Which one of you fanatics are right?
**********

"THIS (Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday) is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad (in every one of them)."

No pagan ever made a day, nor does he own one of them. Most of the Christian church uses Sunday as a day to give worship to God. I doubt seriously that God is offended...as long as we honor Him on other days also.

If you study the O.T. you will find that God ordained other Sabbaths...sometimes on a day adjoining Saturday. In one month it was possible to have as many as nine Sabbaths.

Worship God on every day. Forsake not the assembly of yourselves together...and don't forget that the Apostles DAILY did this.

KayMarie

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