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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683799 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461684 Jul 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have more proof that God existence than I do of yours.
So you prefer images that you are sure live in your brain to real people HUH?

That doesn't surprise me.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461685 Jul 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have more proof that God existence than I do of yours.
He has healed my body of arthritis of the spine among other things.
THERE IS NO PROOF THAT YOU EXIST...
I have never tested you by the five senses...
all I see is your word...on this forum
When you brag that a god healed you, you belittle all the other people on earth who also prayed for healing and received NONE!

Your arrogance is appalling!
LTM

Kingston, Canada

#461686 Jul 13, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
ANTHONY..CLAY ..HOJO
DAN. REGINA
just in case you read my post as,lighthearted did and NOT AS,A TYPO...since the word frontrunner....makes no sense
I WAS,NOT saying Catholics are second class,Christians ..
I WAS SAYING
SOME CATHOLICS, treat us as Second Class Christians.
I have repeatedly said on Here I BELIEVE TRUE CHRISTIANS,are found In ANY BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH .
We are Christians because if our relationship WITH CHRIST..Nit our CHURCH.
which was the point of the post that had the TYPO IN IT ..
THE WORD FRONTRUNNER obviously made no sense...just somethin g in the mind of my KINDLE device .
Again sorry
Amen,

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#461687 Jul 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The teaching of heaven and hell in Christianity repulsed me even when I was a child.
I observed through my child's eyes that some of the most arrogant people on earth were Christians, who always believed they were going to heaven and others were simply fodder for hell.
It's a wretched religion that draws the most arrogant of humans to its "fold."
~~~

You wrote

"It's a wretched religion that draws the most arrogant of humans to its "fold.""

I has evidently drawn you..It has you full attention with thousand of

post ...and adding more each day ..

THAT DON'T SAY MUCH FOR YOURSELF DOES IT?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#461688 Jul 13, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
THANK YOU much for reference ing my post .
I hope it is obvious that the words " seem frontrunner " in the post ars NOT WHAT I MEANT ...my AUTO CORRECT put that word in.
What I was,actually saying
YOU CATHOLICS,SEEM TO TO SEE US AS SECOND CLASS CHRISTIANS,..
I do not See Catholics as such..which I was hoping t he Rest of my post made clear.
I have a,kindle pad ..it does make words up ..
Again sorry
Are you posting under two names? Kindle and Ro? Are these two different or the same poster?

I think the reason women enter into the Ministry is because they feel they are moved to do so with no real Scriptural precedent. At least that is what they say and who am i to argue? Moses allowed for divorce because of hardness of heart.(Matt. 19:7-8) Later in Malachi God states He hates divorce. Moses on his own authority or guided by the Holy Spirit (?) made the concession for divorce. Later Peter renders circumcision obsolete with no scripture precedent. The Bible compiled not by the Apostles proves groups moved via the Holy Spirit can do the will of God post 1st century.

That means the Bible is not all there is nor does revelation stop upon the completion of the Apostolic age. Info in the New is limited and says so. That means things were passed down orally and through tradition. Non Catholic appeals to the Bible only is selectively applied to Catholic Church traditions and at the same time ignored when it comes to things like female ministers. At the end of the day they (females) are either moved by the Holy Spirit or they are not in spite of Paul's teachings men are only to hold leadership roles in the Church. If female ministers are moved via the Holy Spirit then Paul's teaching on the subject no longer applies in an absolute sense. We still have not got into all the non Catholic sects.
LTM

Kingston, Canada

#461689 Jul 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I was on a thread of a forum where Catholics saw "each other" as second-class citizens. They didn't agree on what was Catholic and what was heretical to Catholicism.
And the verbal war was ON.
:)
I was on there also, Catholic's arguing with Catholic's .
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461690 Jul 13, 2013
Even when I was under the spell of religion, I never believed that a god would give ME a miracle and withhold miracles from others.

When I thought of little children starving to death every day, I knew that miracles were myths and nothing BUT myths.

Pray as you will ... suffering of all forms of life will continue on earth as more human and non-animals reproduce and suffer.

Humans might become extinct one day as have other animals ... but suffering will not cease for the animals that still exist on planet earth.

From my perception, humans do not deserve special treatment such as miracles, as humans are not at all special.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461691 Jul 13, 2013
According to many people in religions, non-human animals are not important to the "heavenly father."

If that is true, the heavenly father ain't worth a tinker's damn.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#461692 Jul 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I was on a thread of a forum where Catholics saw "each other" as second-class citizens. They didn't agree on what was Catholic and what was heretical to Catholicism.
And the verbal war was ON.
:)
Are you Catholic or a non Catholic voyeur?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461693 Jul 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I was on there also, Catholic's arguing with Catholic's .
They were belittling each other's myths as being heresy and bragging up their own myths as being based on truth. And they were all Catholics.

Protestants and Muslims and Jews and those in all religions fight among their own and created more and more divisions ... Christianity having approximately 38,000 denominations to it's "debit."

The stupidity in religion never ceases to amaze.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#461694 Jul 13, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
ANTHONY..CLAY ..HOJO
DAN. REGINA
I have repeatedly said on Here I BELIEVE TRUE CHRISTIANS,are found In ANY BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH .
We are Christians because if our relationship WITH CHRIST..Nit our CHURCH.
Agree! I have many Protestant friends in which we all consider each other, brothers and sisters in Christ and can share and respect each others faith (openly and freely) without attacking each other because of our differences in beliefs as Christians. As a former bible only Protestant, I became a Catholic after much prayer,contemplation,research and investigation of TRUE Church History (prior to the Reformation along with many, many more hours, months and years of bible study and being openly led by the Holy Spirit. For me personally, as well as billions and billion of Catholics for over 2000 years---the Catholic Church is the only Church that adheres to the "FULLNESS of the FAITH, and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH in its doctrinal teachings ---and that is why I am a Catholic/Christian......... Unfortunately there are individuals who came on this forum (bible only Protestants, atheists and agnostics) "for one purpose and one purpose ONLY) and that is to vindictively,and beligerently, condemn, judge and attack the Catholic Church and the personal faith and salvation in Jesus Christ of Catholics (everywhere) and especially those on this forum!! The biggest question for those angry and hatefilled (anti-catholic) "fundies, atheists and agnositcs is, "If you believe so strongly in what you claim to be (for you) the truth, then "go and live it on your own" without attacking and condemning the faith of others Christians. However---as a former Protestant, I/we as Catholics (all know that) that you CAN'T and WON'T do that because the entire basis of your bible only, agnostic or atheistic (anger-hate and hostility) is predicated and directed on attacking and hating 2000 years of the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church. What they believe (or don't believe)CANNOT stand on its own WITHOUT those attacks!!!! This has been proven, over and over and over again. Ask, Anthony, Clay, Rdgina, Dan and every other Catholic who comments on this forum. I'm sure they will ALL agree!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461695 Jul 13, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Are you Catholic or a non Catholic voyeur?
I was raised by a Christian mother (Lutheran) and a father who belonged to the Rosicrucian Order and believed in reincarnation.

I simply grew up believing in the existence of a god, and I formed my own images of the god as one of unconditional love.

Those were my beginnings. But now I am an Atheist who entertains the idea that maybe the world always existed and was not created by an all-powerful being. However my belief does not own truth. It is only one belief among countless others.

Bragging of knowing truth is a pastime of fools, and I don't belong to those self-ingratiating clubs.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461696 Jul 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree! I have many Protestant friends in which we all consider each other, brothers and sisters in Christ and can share and respect each others faith (openly and freely) without attacking each other because of our differences in beliefs as Christians.
You haven't displayed any of those "loving" traits on this forum.

:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#461697 Jul 13, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Are you posting under two names? Kindle and Ro? Are these two different or the same poster?
I think the reason women enter into the Ministry is because they feel they are moved to do so with no real Scriptural precedent. At least that is what they say and who am i to argue? Moses allowed for divorce because of hardness of heart.(Matt. 19:7-8) Later in Malachi God states He hates divorce. Moses on his own authority or guided by the Holy Spirit (?) made the concession for divorce. Later Peter renders circumcision obsolete with no scripture precedent. The Bible compiled not by the Apostles proves groups moved via the Holy Spirit can do the will of God post 1st century.
That means the Bible is not all there is nor does revelation stop upon the completion of the Apostolic age. Info in the New is limited and says so. That means things were passed down orally and through tradition. Non Catholic appeals to the Bible only is selectively applied to Catholic Church traditions and at the same time ignored when it comes to things like female ministers. At the end of the day they (females) are either moved by the Holy Spirit or they are not in spite of Paul's teachings men are only to hold leadership roles in the Church. If female ministers are moved via the Holy Spirit then Paul's teaching on the subject no longer applies in an absolute sense. We still have not got into all the non Catholic sects.
~~~

YOU WROTE

"I think the reason women enter into the Ministry is because they feel they are moved to do so with no real Scriptural precedent. At least that is what they say and who am i to argue?"

THERE IS NO REASON TO ARGUE...

THE OLD TESTAMENT SAYS...

ABOUT WOMEN PREACHERS..

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and

-->your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and

-->upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS

Act_2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and

==> your daughters shall prophesy, and

your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Act_2:18 And on my servants and

==> on my handmaidens

I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461698 Jul 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree! I have many Protestant friends in which we all consider each other, brothers and sisters in Christ and can share and respect each others faith (openly and freely) without attacking each other because of our differences in beliefs as Christians.
When pope Francis stated that Atheists are redeemed ... did you take that as truth, or heresy against Jesus?

After all, Christian theology is all about belief in Jesus ... or suffer the consequences of hell.

To play the game both ways ... means that there is either a lie one way or the other, as both proclamations can't be true.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#461699 Jul 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen,
Thanks ..glad to correct a statement I did not mean .
I really do believe Christian s are in every Church
No one is higher than another.
Jesus certainly gave That message yo the apostles.
It's,all about Him
Nit our respective places of worship.
This forum or maybe a worship forum could be as full of true hristian s
as a mega Cathedral

The CHURCH is the body of believers.

When the Temple veil was rent in half ..I BELieve it was a HUGELY IMPORTANT message ..That we need NO PERSON..BUILDING ..OR THING between God and Us .

Imo
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461700 Jul 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"I think the reason women enter into the Ministry is because they feel they are moved to do so with no real Scriptural precedent. At least that is what they say and who am i to argue?"
THERE IS NO REASON TO ARGUE...
THE OLD TESTAMENT SAYS...
ABOUT WOMEN PREACHERS..
Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and
-->your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and
-->upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS
Act_2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and
==> your daughters shall prophesy, and
your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act_2:18 And on my servants and
==> on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
You are SUCH a master manipulator of words that you are a joke to honesty.

Had you been a Christian preacher in the 19th century that stated women could be preachers, you would have been bonked on the head with stones by fellow preachers.

By Christian preachers of the "true" gospel, women weren't even recognized as being "persons" until 1929.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461701 Jul 13, 2013
Christians learned the idea that the supposed god was cruel from the teachings of other religious myth-makers, who also learned their myths from other religious myth-makers.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

From the book … After Abolition of the Death Penalty by William A. Schabas, comes the following

In positive law, capital punishment can be traced back as early as 1750 B.C., in the les talionas of the code of Hammurabi. 6 The bible set death as the punishment for such crimes as magic, violation of Sabbath, blasphemy, adultery, homosexuality, relations with animals, incest and rape.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#461702 Jul 13, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Arrrrr...Polly want a cracker lol
That's right Seraphima!! The TRUTH needs to be "parroted" over and over again so that "it might--just maybe" -----might possibly,---(sink in) to bible only "fundies", Orthodox Christians (such as you), atheists, and agnostics who have "rejected" TRUE bible interpretation and the TRUTH of over 2000 years of TRUE Church History. There is "nothing" to discuss, nothing to debate, nothing to deliberate over!! It has ALL been substantiated, authenticated and proven time and time again by an overwhelming majority of "highly accredited" Church Historians, Apologistic authors and writers, and 2000 years of the biographical lives of the Saints.
........The FULLNESS of the Faith and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH, has, is and will continue to be in Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church, that has existed for over 2000 years!!!
Clay

Garden City, MI

#461703 Jul 13, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
ANTHONY..CLAY ..HOJO
DAN. REGINA
just in case you read my post as,lighthearted did and NOT AS,A TYPO...since the word frontrunner....makes no sense
I WAS,NOT saying Catholics are second class,Christians ..
I WAS SAYING
SOME CATHOLICS, treat us as Second Class Christians.
I have repeatedly said on Here I BELIEVE TRUE CHRISTIANS,are found In ANY BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH .
We are Christians because if our relationship WITH CHRIST..Nit our CHURCH.
which was the point of the post that had the TYPO IN IT ..
THE WORD FRONTRUNNER obviously made no sense...just somethin g in the mind of my KINDLE device .
Again sorry
The issue is that we Catholics recognize your Christianity, but most of you do not return the recognition. Even going so far as to condemn us to Hell. Many of you falsely accuse us of worshiping Mary and statues etc.
Also, nobody seems to want to know what the Catholic Church really teaches. They would rather keep believing their misconceptions. I suppose its easier to do that than to admit wrong doing?

Although Catholics acknowledge Protestants as Christians, we could never acknowledge Protestantism as legitimate Christian teachings .
It simply teaches things that are opposite of what Christ taught. That is the truth.

You've come close to Christ by reading the Books the Catholic Church put together and called 'The Bible'... But by eliminating the Church upon which the Bible came, you are not receiving the fullness of the faith. You couldn't be, because you're going by the Bible alone. That's not the fullness. and more importantly, to go by your individual interpretations instead of what the Apostles conveyed orally about their written documents, is really moving away from the fullness of Christianity.

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