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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688931 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461441 Jul 12, 2013
Within the theology Catholics teach that Mary's spirit went "back" to heaven.

As a Jew she never came from heaven, so she couldn't go BACK to heaven.

Silly dogmas!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#461442 Jul 12, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
There are denials in both camps. There are LOUD PROTESTS in both camps. There are admissions and repentance in both camps. You sin, we sin. Just as Jesus said.
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There are misfits and hypocrites all over the place, Anthony. But the CC problem is compounded because they require thousands of men to deny themselves the life that God has given to mankind.

Jesus said that "not many" could live such a life. But the CC requires it of THOUSANDS (many) anyway.

Don't tell me that those men KNOWINGLY make such a pledge. Most of them long to serve God, but have no idea of the sacrifice that they are required to make. And you know that, if they do not make that vow, they are not accepted to the ministry by the CC.

KayMarie

ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#461443 Jul 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="lightbeamrider" OK.
<quoted text> I'M sure you came to that conclusion absent any hate but it still comes across as a slam. Is your conclusion based on investigation from Catholic sources free of Protestant distortions? Do you go to Democrats for definitions on Republicans? The Catholic church has a central location. Rome. What is the central location for Protestants? Is your church the only true church and other churches who have points of contention in various degrees wrong? Why so many sects? Is that Biblical? Female Ministers? Is that Biblical?
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What 'females' did Jesus send to tell the disciples of His resurrection? Matthew 28
What 'female' preached the appearance of the Messiah to all the believers in Jerusalem? Luke 2:36-38
What 'females' did Paul say HELPED HIM IN HIS MINISTRY? Phil. 4:3
'Female' judge in Israel (Deborah) Judges 4:4
'Female' prophetess (Huldah) II Kings 22:14
Luke 8:2,3 Names women who traveled with, and supported Jesus as He ministered in Galilee. They followed Him to Jerusalem, to the cross, and to the tomb. They saw Him first after the resurrection, and told the disciples (who did not believe them) that He was alive.
Shall I go on?
KayMarie
I'd much rather have discussions of this sort, so I'll butt in.....

While I love those you listed and many others....Deborah, what a woman, huh? I love that she was a Judge!!....that is not the same as a female minister. Christ instituted the Priesthood at the Last Supper among the Apostles. It isn't the same as the "ministering" you're speaking of. We have our gifts, our work, and it's important, but it is not the Priesthood.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461444 Jul 12, 2013
Within the theology Jesus never came from Christian heaven, so neither could he, or any of the supposed apostles go back to heaven.

So that means that the father and the son are now separated by religion.

Ridiculous blather.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461445 Jul 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI - "God" hasn't been proven to exist yet, what makes you think I can?
*rolls eyes*
You are starting to sound very much like a so-called "Christian".
Maybe you should stop.....as it conflicts with your already given expressed POV.
You believe you are a spirit don't you, and who does your spirit attach TO but a god or a goddess?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461446 Jul 12, 2013
New-age spiritual "leader" ... who is not religious.

What a joke.
LTM

Kingston, Canada

#461447 Jul 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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The Bible says
Colossians 2:18
(DRB) Let no man seduce you, willing in humility and religion of angels, walking in the things which he hath not seen, in vain puffed up by the sense of his flesh:
(Geneva) Let no man at his pleasure beare rule ouer you by humblenesse of minde, and worshipping of Angels, aduauncing himselfe in those thinges which hee neuer sawe, rashly puft vp with his fleshly minde,
(KJV) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
why do you disobey the scriptures...
Thank you confronting for that post, I wasn't sure where that scripture was.
As we can see Catholic's pay no regard to the Holy Scriptures.
LTM

Kingston, Canada

#461448 Jul 12, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd much rather have discussions of this sort, so I'll butt in.....
While I love those you listed and many others....Deborah, what a woman, huh? I love that she was a Judge!!....that is not the same as a female minister. Christ instituted the Priesthood at the Last Supper among the Apostles. It isn't the same as the "ministering" you're speaking of. We have our gifts, our work, and it's important, but it is not the Priesthood.
Your wrong Regina once again.
All born again believer's in Christ Jesus and the works that He did, are part of a royal priesthood, the bible the catholic church gave the world according to you says so.
Surely you will believe Peter your first Pope.
1 Peter 2
The Living Stone and a Chosen People

4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house[a] to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For in Scripture it says:

“See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame.”[b]

7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe,

“The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”[c]

8 and,

“A stone that causes people to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall.”[d]

They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#461449 Jul 12, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose, is there a reason why you're ignoring my posts?
Well, I'll keep trying.....
There are many differences between Protestants and Catholics and between our bibles. For one thing, Protestants removed books and NOT for the reasons you specify. For another, you believe in private interpretation and as a result have changed the meaning of many Christian doctrines.
While it's nice to acknowledge our similarities, protestantism has changed the Christian faith and no Pope has accepted those changes, which is something else you seem to repeat over and over. It's simply not true. That is not what ecumenism is about.
At any rate, I certainly hope no one has been bearing false witness about me to you. In spite of our differences, I didn't think you would listen to that kind of talk. Please let me know if you would like those links I mentioned several times.
Must have missed your post I know I answered a few..

Who and what are you talking about ...I never bear false witness ...

Am clueless ..

On the other I posted 3 here we. From your bible and mine.

All say the same thing .

Those missing books sorry ..are not necessary to salvation...

And your bleeds pope did call for unity.

Regina if you and certain others want to look at us as not Christian believers in the same Christ y oh believe in ..go ahead .

We are nit second class..I do not see true Catholic Christians as second class

But we will be welcome by Jesus or not ...But NOT BY ANY POPE

THE TEMPLE CURTAIN HAS BEEN RENT IN TWO.

THERE IS NO BARRUER BETWEEN GOD AND US ...

But if you choose another between you and Him have at it ..enjoy

And no thanks on the links

Human Being

Basile, LA

#461450 Jul 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Well considering the major religions of the world are not allowing any new teachings by Jesus, and that Jesus never wrote anything down himself to begin with, I can honestly say, Jesus isn't teaching anymore.
Now with that being said, one could express interest in the teachings attributed to Jesus, now and in the future, and work to excel in understanding them, but it still requires the effort of that individual to do so. Something no religious organization will be able to do.
Self.
Thanks for responding!
New Age Spiritual Leader:

A lot of justification is based on one's world-view.

If one thinks Jesus was a philosopher/theologian, or if he was God.(And some have a hard time thinking he even existed/exists at all.), or some combination....

Each must decide. And the process of determining that, in one's own head is part of Life's Great Adventure, with perils and rewards, each in his own way.
Human Being

Basile, LA

#461451 Jul 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Why anyone would have a "desperate" need of a god's love is a mystery to me.
When I was under the spell of religion, I believed that the god's love was unconditional for all humans, so I was never worried that I wouldn't be loved. NEVER!
June:

No one said you were.

But are you desperate, or worried now? Are you sure? NEVER and ALWAYS!!
Human Being

Basile, LA

#461452 Jul 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
On a personal level you don't judge me ... "so you claim" ... yet you left Atheism because you believed Catholicism would save you from hell, and Atheism would not perform that miracle for you.
I suggest you stop playing games with your self, so you can stop playing games with me.
June:

:)

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#461453 Jul 12, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't mention you or anyone. Why do you think it's always about YOU? lol....feeling guilty? There have been a few new names here posting to her.
Get the phone records.
You don't have to mention me..EVERYONE knows you meant me..and it is about me Marie,your attacks towards me have been on going since I came back.
Your the one that posted that YOU can pove that you called...YOU post your proof....either way....I have NO desire to regain a friendship with you.Most everyone on this forum KNOWS that you have lied many times. I have no reason to prove anythingto you.You need to focus on becoming a better human being and stop focusing on me and WHAT I say or WHO I talk with.
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#461454 Jul 12, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Must have missed your post I know I answered a few..
Who and what are you talking about ...I never bear false witness ...
Am clueless ..
On the other I posted 3 here we. From your bible and mine.
All say the same thing .
Those missing books sorry ..are not necessary to salvation...
And your bleeds pope did call for unity.
Regina if you and certain others want to look at us as not Christian believers in the same Christ y oh believe in ..go ahead .
We are nit second class..I do not see true Catholic Christians as second class
But we will be welcome by Jesus or not ...But NOT BY ANY POPE
THE TEMPLE CURTAIN HAS BEEN RENT IN TWO.
THERE IS NO BARRUER BETWEEN GOD AND US ...
But if you choose another between you and Him have at it ..enjoy
And no thanks on the links
I didn't say you bore false witness! Nor did I say any of the other things you went on about. Why do you put words in my mouth?

There are many differences not only between Catholics and Protestants, but among the many thousands of Protestant groups in existence since the reformation.

No one is trying to fight with you, Rose, but you seem kind of testy. No matter what a Catholic says to you, you take it the wrong way. Oh, well, if that's what you want. But when you post things that aren't true, people are going to oppose you and try to correct you. This *is* a board for debate after all.

Sorry you don't want to look at the links to Rachel's Vineyard and Silent No More. I thought someone said you posted on abortion forums and thought they would be helpful. Have it your own way. I should post on those forums also, but I've gotten very busy.

I also asked about the tropical storm but I think it's easier (and calmer, lol) to just take my chances with the weather report!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#461455 Jul 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Pray to the departed ...
Is that not the same thing the Mormons do?
Please define what you mean by..
"the saints who are alive in heaven ."
The Bible does not say that they are bodily alive...
it says ...
Romans 8:23
(DRB) And not only it, but ourselves also, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit:
even we ourselves groan within ourselves,==> waiting for the adoption of the sons of God, the redemption of our body.
(Geneva) And not onely the creature, but we also which haue the first fruites of the Spirit,
euen we doe sigh in our selues,==>waiting for the adoption, euen the redemption of our body.
(KJV) And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,
even we ourselves groan within ourselves,-->waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Are you saying they have already experienced the adoption, to wit, the redemption of their bodies.
If you are...then you are in error...
I believe they are like Moses and Elijah when they appeared with Jesus at the Transfiguration.

Do you ask others to pray to God on your behalf?
LTM

Kingston, Canada

#461456 Jul 12, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Out of charity I avoid commenting on your feeble-minded and ignorant posts to spare you the embarrassment. I'll usually only address you when you're either attacking me or throwing out another whopper of a lie about the Catholic Church.
I am not an authority. The Catholic Church is. All I do is correct your errors regarding the Catholic faith and history.
I do believe in the bible. It is historical fact that the only reason protestants even have a bible is because of the Catholic Church. I don't believe in your version of the bible, especially because you have no authority to teach the bible and also because you are barely literate and are a menace to biblical truth.
The Catholic Church never, ever discouraged people from reading the bible, they only discouraged people from reading BAD TRANSLATIONS of the bible.
We have no idols in our Churches.
We don't pray TO Mary or the saints, we ask them to pray to Jesus for us.
We show Jesus on the cross to remind us of His sacrifice and because St. Paul said we are to preach Him crucified.
The catholic church has proven it self not to be an authority on the Bible , or anything relating to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Quite the opposite.
Your statues or idols of saints can't hear, or see, why don't you pray to Jesus yourself Anthony He will hear you and answer you.
You are correcting my error's , if what you believed was scriptural it may hold so weight Anthony but it's not.
The Bible never says Mary was forever a virgin, nor does it say God made her queen of heaven.
The catholic fathers made that up in 1950, seem to have taken them along time if your church started in the 300's as you claim why did they take so long???
I'll tell you why!!! some grumpier old man wanted to make a name for himself like other Popes who past stupid degrees of the catholic religion.
Your brain washed that's what you as Anthony, and any other catholic who believes that unsound doctrine.
You can't even pick up a Bible and read it for yourself and understand a chapter without fear of thinking your interpretation is not really.
God lays things on our heart through the Holy Spirit people to pray for and scriptures to help us against the enemy, and going through hard times.
What your saying is God is not able to relay His message to His people, with God all things are possible Anthony .
He speaks to us through His Holy Word the Bible, He lays scripture on our hearts and brings them to memory when we are troubled.

You don't know God Anthony you know of Him but you don't know Him.
He is a person, and He loves you.
You can go right to God in prayer, Jesus made it possible when He hung on the cross and tore the temple from top to bottom.
He done away with the earthy Priesthood , we as believers are part of the Royal Priesthood.
You need to get to know your maker and the man who died for your sins Jesus The Christ.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461457 Jul 12, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
June:
No one said you were.
But are you desperate, or worried now? Are you sure? NEVER and ALWAYS!!
YOU are desperate to believe that a god loves you, or you would not have re-joined your Catholic cult.

I believe that if a god loves you, the god would love anybody, as the god would not BE at all fussy.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#461458 Jul 12, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd prefer not to go there with you Sera, let's keep it civil ok?
okie dokie...but it would not bother me if you did.I do not take it personally.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461459 Jul 12, 2013
The Jewish god must be terribly disappointed that his son Jesus is now in Christian heaven.

Oh well ... parents can only do their best with their children, and if the children join a new religion ... so be it!

Tongue in cheek
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#461460 Jul 12, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
New Age Spiritual Leader:
A lot of justification is based on one's world-view.
If one thinks Jesus was a philosopher/theologian, or if he was God.(And some have a hard time thinking he even existed/exists at all.), or some combination....
Each must decide. And the process of determining that, in one's own head is part of Life's Great Adventure, with perils and rewards, each in his own way.
YUP ... heaven for you and hell for others. That is YOUR decision.

:)

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